Miguel Fleta & Lucrezia Bori "Tutto tace"

[qklq42]

Two beautiful voices and an exellent taste

Hans NL

[jfsanin]

Que duo, ambos lo hacen muy bien. Bori con su pequeña pero hermosa voz y Fleta con su hermosa y potente voz, hacen un dueto increible.

[WMP777]

No pueden haber dudas del portento de la voz de M. Fleta. Su dominio tecnico y expresivo es total, y ademas una voz tan poderosa e squillante que la hace crecer y

la disminuye a piacere, en cualquier parte de su homogeneo registro. Desconozco detalles de su vida o de sus habitos. Mi pregunta es : Como este superbo tenor, de excelente tecnica perdio esas facultades prematuramente?

[pslogge]

Caballé modelled her voice after Fleta´s ability for the filati. He was not her teacher litterally speaking. He died when she was an infant.

@65attila : I do not have the score but I see what you mean.

[paulostroff99]

Awesome

[pslogge]

I admire Fleta´s skills. If my memory is correct, he was one of the teachers of Monserrat Caballe.

And I remember that in the 80´s opera lovers used to reproduce the polite and intelligent dialogue between SALTBURNER2- ILBACIODITOSCA-and friends , but, referring to Caballe.

[65attila]

@pslogge

Fleta misses the tenderness- he singing is too loud and rytmically strict mezza- forte when it should be mezza-voce. The tenors who really get this duet are Tagliavini/Schipa/Borgioli/Pav­arotti. Bori is excellent but there are better performances of this duet.

[hashatz]

Two different interpretations. Both offer a thrilling experience. Either way you come away with a feeling of artistic satisfaction.

[saltburner2]

This was recorded on 14 January 1924, and never issued as a regular 78. It was eventually issued on a special label with the also unpublished Jose/Michaela duet from Carmen. 16 later acoustics of Fleta were published, so it was not the prospect of an electrical re-make which held back publication. Perhaps Bori was not happy with it/him? Fleta is inclined to force: something Schipa never did.

Bori was always happy singing with him!

[ilbacioditosca]

Fleta was able to force, he had a powerfull voice, the rare thing in him was the legato and sweet singing, that i why he was the best.

Schipa could sing only sweet.Love him.

[saltburner2]

Fleta's greatest asset was his fillature and morbidezza - which he was inclined to over-use. No doubt they drove the audience wild with excitement, but the effect was not always truly artistic.

I still love his early records - like the acoustic Ay Ay Ay.

While we are on Spanish tenors, what about Hippolito Lazaro - another fine singer. And though Schipa was Italian, he had some of his greatest successes in Spain. For me, Schipa is one of the few tenors who can do no wrong!

[paulostroff99]

saltburner2-What about the great Antonio Cortis. I believe him to be superior to Lazaro.

[meltzerboy]

Totally agree that Cortis was better than Lazaro, who made some really bad recordings (notably "E lucevan le stelle" from Tosca) along with some good ones.

[saltburner2]

Cortis also a fine singer - but I have few of his records, other than the Turandot arias.

[paulostroff99]

saltburner2-I shall in the near future send you more of his gems. Enjoy these,and especially his incomparable Lola for now. Glad that you also like the great Miguel Fleta. Lazaro,Kraus and Aragall are all up there as well. Enjoy.

[meltzerboy]

Since you mentioned "forcing," Lazaro was known to force to the extreme in some of his recordings. Listen to "Di quella pira" (Trovatore) and the infamous "E lucevan le stelle" (Tosca) with more sobs and shrieks than Gigli was ever prone to. Yet Lazaro also made some very good recordings.

[ilbacioditosca]

What do you mean that filature and morbidezza effect was not artistic. Just because other can´t do it? He sung forte in the right places and soft where it is posible. Nothing better than Fleta.

[saltburner2]

What I mean is that the ability to use filature and morbidezza requires good training and technique: but they still have to be used artistically, and not just for effect. If overused, they become inartistic: a form of boasting, rather like holding a top note too long, just because you can, and not because the music demands it.

[pathkefer]

Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act. —

Dietrich Bonhoeffer

[Isidore98]

Fleta was as mad a hatter, a self-centred egotist and consequently a great tenor. With a wobble at the end of his short career at least a semitone wide he was howeversuperb! Great artist, imperfect tenor. He is trying to make Radames out of this sometimes -and yet some lovely delicate touches. As I say, a great artist, excellent...He is mad.

[genia106]

Exquisito! Muchas gracias!

[kspm01]

Absolutamente precioso; ¡muchas gracias por compartir esta interpretación!

[Deotyma7]

Excelete 5*****

[qklq42]

I especially love the beautiful and chique Bori in this lovely duet. Fleta is most of the times too spanisch. Too much mezza voce.

But in this case I think he is very fine !

Hans NL

[gmmix]

Fleta and Bori are so well matched in this duet, which is indeed a treasure. I communicated with Bori prior to her demise. She was "special" in so many ways. Thanks to the poster for making this recording available.

[paulostroff99]

Thank you for posting this absolute treasure!

[pianopera]

And thank you for sharing it with me! This is indeed a wonderful video, with very nice pictures, "tasteful" in more than one way ;)

Fleta and Bori are superb, but I find it difficult to forget another great recording of this with Schipa and Favero (1937).

[paulostroff99]

Remarkable!IMHO he is the greatest tenor ever!

[ElPiconeroalCognac]

I agree, certainly one of the top 3.

[AEmylia24]

I'm English and absolutely LOVE this. Why is this sort of magic no longer present in current day singers?

[paulostroff99]

THIS MAN WAS PROBABLY THE GREATEST TENOR THAT EVER LIVED.LISTEN TO HIS AY,AY,AY,tHERE ARE 2 VERSIONS AVAILABLE ON YOU TUBE,AND ALSO TO HIS GORGEOUS SONG OF INDIA BY SADKO.ENJOY!

[jfsanin]

@paulostroff99

I agree. Fleta and Di Stefano, perhaps the best tenors of any time.

[paulostroff99]

Brilliant!Disappointed to being the only English speaking person listed here for such a phenomenal artist!

[ilbacioditosca]

Creo Fleta puede ser llamado Tenor Absoluto!! Él podria haber cantanto desde el Barbero hasta Otello sin estar fuera de estilo.Lo que con Lohengrin es una clase que pocos tenores podrian alcanzar.

[PARDALETA]

Si pones a Fleta en un saco no cabe nadie más.

Porque él lo llenaba todo, es la mas bonita voz de la lírica, y lo que hacía con ella no tiene parangón.

[PonselleLover]

Si que conozco la partitura porque cante diez años, incluyendo este dueto - desgraciadamente no tanto bien como este milagro de Fleta ! - pero aunque mi gusto propio me lleve naturalmente hacia precisamente estas voces spintas (Lazaro, Fleta), no puedo prescindir compararle aca con Schipa quien le supera en cuanto a la diccion y los MATICES (¿correcto esta vez ? - soy frances...). Gracias por su indulgencia en cuanto a mi castellano dado que hacia el esfuerzo de hablar en su idioma...

[GerardoRosvaenge]

Es tu opinión, y yo no voy a convencerte de lo contrario, ni tampoco lo pretendo.

Lo que sí me extraña un poquito es que metas en el mismo saco a Fleta y a Lázaro.

Las indulgencias mejor será que se las dejemos a la Iglesia.

[PonselleLover]

¡Que leccion de canto, dios mio ! sobretodo por parte de la Bori, porque Fleta hace demasiados portamemti y su voz es un poco demasiada spinta para este papel y carece de matizas.

[GerardoRosvaenge]

Prueba a escucharla con la partitura delante. Después hablamos de los "matizas".

[zciweslab]

video muy hermoso. ¡muchas gracias!

[kraustrujillo]

Mi querido amigo, a la ya de por si, hermosa música tu le has dado un toque extra con este videó tan bonito que has hecho. Felicidades "Tocayo"

Un abrazo.