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  • And how is this news?

  • Is America even a democracy?

    I was under the impression that law had to conform to the dictates of their constitution written 200 years ago by a handful of individuals - thats not democracy to me.

  • I'm just wondering which countries in Europe were democracies at the time of our Revolution.

    Can anyone name any? I'm just curious.

    Not England. Not France. Sweden, Norway, Denmark, and many others still have monarchies today.

    So, I'm at a loss here. I need some help. Anyone?

  • "Sweden, Norway, Denmark are monarchies today, but they are democraties"

    --A contradiction at it's core. No such thing as a democratic monarchy. The People vote in these countries, yes, but only at the whim of the monarchy. Voting here is our right under God.

    "these countries are more democratics than the US"

    --A statement proving you're an idiot and don't know what you're talking about. No man can truly be free if living under a Monarchy. And our system at it's core makes monarchs illegal.

  • "I understand why you're so retarded...

    Stupid redneck..."

    --More personal attacks. That's all you've got. It's so pathetic.

  • NG - You are 100% correct here, and in your earlier messages.

    In reading this thread, I find no facts to contradict you. I guess they have none.

  • Lol so a stupid brainwashed nationalist like you know the truth?? lol

    Have you ever read a book except the Bible??

    Do you know something about others countries?

    You're just a stupid and nationalistic yokel of the south.

    You can't think by yourself... your profile is only the prototype of the ideas of a conservative redneck...

  • Saying that the UK and others european countries which are monarchies are not democratic is the truth??

    Lol don't make me laught...

    And you call me an ignorant?

    Learn to make the distinction between a monarchy and a dicture, and between a republic and a democracy...

    You know nothing about England and the monarchies (and I am really objective, I can tell you that I don't like the Brits and I live in a republic, but I can't hear stupid Americans rednecks saying these bullshits)

  • "are not democratic"

    Even in your own words lies the truth and you can't even see it. You call them "monarchies" then try to also call them "democracies." Well, which is it? BTW, nice use of language for trickery with the word "democratic." Acting "democratic" doesn't make something a "democracy." But nice try.

    "And you call me an ignorant?

    You are. You're also closed to all reasonable arguments.

    "Learn to make the distinction between"

    As I just explained, you're a hypocrite.

  • @Freez57fr

    Can you debate any topic with anything other than brainless, childish personal insults for someone you don't even know?

    I mean, what are you, a 7 year old?

  • "your comments are the most stupid I saw on Youtube"

    --Thanks for refuting facts. The sign of a programmed idealogue.

    "Your comments are not objective (and are totally wrong)"

    --Because they're factual?

    "The monarchies are all democratics"

    --That's a contradiction in terms, dim-wit.

    "dictatures"

    --What does that mean?

    "It's only anti-european and pro-american propaganda"

    --It's propaganda if it's not factual and being used for an agenda. They are factual, so what's my agenda?

  • "govrnment and the parliament (elected) rule"

    --Yes, the "government" = the "monarchy." FACT: No law is enacted in the UK without the Queen's approval & signature.

    "Japan is a monarchy"

    --Thanks for adding to my argument.

    "your comments don't make sense"

    --Meaning you don't like them.

    "the USA are the only democracy in the world because it's a republic, the european monarchies are not democracies"

    --Gee, is that a direct quote? You have it in quotes. Is that I actually wrote?

  • @NoGuff

    You know that the Queen MUST approval. It's just a protocol.

    Gordon Brown: Prime Minister, rule the country, elected AT THE MAJORITY.

    2000: The majority of the Americans voted Al Gore BUT Bush became president -> your system is not a democracy. The USA is a fake democracy.

    :p

    The liberty are limited -> Patriot Act :p

    The USA is in fact an oligarchy. Your congress is the most corrupted assembly in the world (democrat and recpublicans, the same, all corrupted)

  • And in Europe more than 80 or 90% of the people vote, in the USA you have no more than 60% of participation usually.

    Europe -> the TRUE democracies.

  • Wow look the American democracy: you're the perfect exemple:

    - demagoguery

    - propaganda

    - lies and manipulation

    - you call all your friend to down my comments (or maybe yourselves with many pther accounts, I post a comment and 1 hour later it has -8, for a video of only 1410 views for 1 year)

    - you're just a stupid redneck, go read the Bible, milk your cows, and expect your mariage to suck a cock/pussy. I lost time too much with you and your stupid bullshits.

  • And I hope your comments are lies, manipulation and propaganda, because if you are convineed of what you're saying that's something to be worried about (but from an American, especially a stupid yokel of the south, it would be not surprising...)

  • "- demagoguery

    - propaganda

    - lies and manipulation"

    --The price you pay for true freedom of speech, you nimrod.

    "you call all your friend to down my comments"

    --I didn't call anyone. You just can't fathom the idea that others don't agree with you .

    "you're just a stupid redneck, go read the Bible, milk your cows"

    --Ummm.... yeah. Right.

    "I lost time too much with you and your stupid bullshits"

    --Liberal Translation: You've destroyed all my arguments and I suck, so I quit.

  • @NoGuff

    You've destroyed all my arguments??

    They are not arguments: they are FACTS.

    I quit because if a stupid guy like you say: "the sun is blue" with stupid arguments, you can convince him that the sun is yellow, because he doesn't understand...

    You said that European monarchies are not democracies, why I should explain you that they are democracies?

    You're an ignorant, and that's all.

  • And I don't speak English easily. You can post a comment in seconds, I have to take more time. So yes, I don't have time to lose with you.

    People who is intelligent knows I'm right. The others (the stupid rednecks like you) who are too stupid to take your comments for truth, I don't take care of them.

  • I look my profil: I'm not liberal, I'm conservative. I'm not monarchist, I'm republican. I'm not a Brit, I'm French (And I don't like the Brits and their fucking Queen, it's a part of my national identity).

    BUT I don't tell that the UK is not a democracy. It would be stupid and wrong.

  • "You said that European monarchies are not democracies, why I should explain you that they are democracies"

    --Again, you're writing the facts which support my argument, dummy. How can a Monarchy be a Democracy. GO LOOK THOSE WORDS UP, YOU NIMROD. A Monarchy can employ democratic methods, doesn't make them a Democracy. How can you even believe it when you yourself refer to them as Monarchies? What a fuck-wit.

  • Okokok

    Correction: These countries are not monarchies but democracies with a king/queen who is here ONLY for the tradition.

    As a convervative, can you understand it?

    Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Netherlands are the most liberals and democratics countries of the world, more than republics like the USA and France, and by far.

    Thats not because they have a king who is just a figurehead that there are dictatures.

  • "As a convervative, can you understand it?"

    --I understand many things. I understand that a Democracy doesn't have monarchs, in any fashion. It's counter to the idea of a Democracy. Do you understand that? Calling them Democracies doesn't necessarily make it so.

    "Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Netherlands are the most liberals"

    --Just because the people & parliaments are Leftists doesn't mean they don't have monarchs as their heads of state. Can you think beyond your brainwashing?

  • Learn the definition of a democracy stupid yank:

    "Democracy is a political government carried out either directly by the people (direct democracy) or by means of elected representatives of the people (Representative democracy)."

    These countries elect directly their leaders, which are the LEADERS OF THE GOVERNMENTS, and the leader of the state.

    They are PARLIAMENTARY SYSTEM, where the leader of the state PLAYS ONLY A SYMBOLIC ROLE (the president of Germany hasn't power, like the Queen of England

  • The leader is the Head of the Government, and not the Head of the State.

    They are not presidentials systems like the USA or the African republics (which are the perfect exemple of democracy...)

    Can't you think stupid redneck beyond YOUR brainwashing?

  • I live in a republic, more republican than yours, in a country which beaheaded his king, probably the most anti-monarchist country in the world, so don't call me brainwashed only because I'm not a stupid hypocrit yank like you, I can be republican without saying bullshits about monarchies.

  • "you don't know the difference between a monarchy and a democracy or republic"

    - a republic and a democracy is not the same

    (North Korea -> republic, Cuba -> republic, all the dictatures in the world are republics)

    A democracy is a political government carried out by the people, and has no link with a republic or a monarchy.

  • "A democracy is a political government carried out by the people, and has no link with a republic"

    --You are too stupid to live.

  • Hahaha

    The best you can do?

    Why don't you answer my other comments (I post 5 comments with argumentation), I have only this answer "you're too stupid to live"

    You cant invent others stupid arguments, or maybe you understood that you're just a stupid brainwashed redneck, with none knowledge about what is a monarchy/republic or democracy/dicature ?

    Come one you can't invent others bullshits which try to be credible, with your extraordinary immagination?

    I

  • " You are brainwashed regarding this because you are European."

    -- Who is brainwashed, the man who hates the UK, who hates the monarchic system BUT doesn't want to say bullshits like "the monarchy are not democracies", or the stupid guy who say these bullshits only because his country isn't a monarchy.

    The difference between a neutral and intelligent European and a stupid, brainwashed and hypocrit yank.

  • "The leader is the Head of the Government, and not the Head of the State"

    --Please read your statement again and notice the sheer idiocy of it.

    "They are not presidentials systems like the USA"

    --Ummmm.... DUUUUUHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

    Vous êtes stupide!

  • "Please read your statement again..."

    --- If you can't make the difference between the Head of the Government and the Head of the State, that's not my problem

    "Ummmm... DUUUUUUHHHHH!!!"

    --- you can't understand, but don't worry, it's a little too difficult for your brain...

  • I meant, the leaders are the head of the governments, and NOT the head of the state.

    Learn to make the difference between a Parliamentary system and a presidential system at first...

    (I know, you'll tell that Parliamentary systems are not democracies... how can this system could be democratic because it's not the US system... stupid yank...)

  • "the leaders are the head of the governments, and NOT the head of the state"

    --What is the difference???

    "Learn to make the difference between a Parliamentary system and a presidential system at first"

    --I do know, and that's not what I've been talking about. You keep trying to tell me that a Monarchy is a Democracy, and I'm saying the two are mutually exclusive. Just because a Monarch allows the People to have their indulgences doesn't mean the nation's been transformed into a Democracy.

  • "What is the difference?"

    That's all the problem, you're just ignorant because you can't make the difference between the head of the state (doesn't rule the country in a parliamentary system and has only a symbolic role) and the head of the government (rule the country)

    Exemple:

    The UK (monarchy)

    - head of state -> Elisabeth II (doesn't rule)

    - Head of the gov -> Brown (rules)

    Germany (republic)

    - head of state -> President Köhler (doesn't rule)

    - head of the gov -> Merkel (rules)

  • "What is the difference???"

    --- Proves that you're just ignorant, you can't make the difference between the Head of the State (doesn't rule the country and has only a symbolic role) and the Head of the government (rules the country)

  • "Just because a Monarch allows the People to have their indulgences doesn't mean the nation's been transformed into a Democracy."

    --> you don't understand: the monarch DOESN'T allow the people to have their indulgences, BUT the people ALLOW the monarch to keep his symbolic role...

    Do you understand???

  • "Learn the definition of a democracy stupid yank"

    --Yes, I know the definition. Notice how it meantioned nothing about monarchs, you stupid Frog.

    "These countries elect directly their leaders"

    --But not their official Head of State. Right?

    "They are PARLIAMENTARY SYSTEM, where the leader of the state PLAYS ONLY A SYMBOLIC ROLE"

    --So they're told. If the role was strictly symbolic why is the King's/Queen's signature (permission/approval) REQUIRED on all laws? You're so lame.

  • "So they're told. If the role was strictly symbolic why is the King's/Queen's signature (permission/approval) REQUIRED on all laws?"

    --- First, his signature isn't required on all laws.

    And the monarch (I have answer you but apperently you didn't understand) MUST appoves. The law is approval even if he refuses (and a king can't refuses, except if he is stupid and wants see his country changed into a republic). The monarch is only a puppet.

  • Apparently, you don't understand that if these countries have a monarchy: it's because THE PEOPLE want it.

    The English want their monarch and they don't make a shit if the monarch put his signature, it's only a protocol and the law voted by the parliament will be adopted (the signature put or not)

    If the English want a republic, they'll vote the republicans and if the republicans are in majority, the country will become a republic...

  • "Yes, I know the definition. Notice how it meantioned nothing about monarchs, you stupid Frog"

    --- Yes, you're totally right, it meantioned nothing about monarchs like it meantioned nothing about republic or president, because a democracy HAS NO LINK WITH a republic or a monarchy.

  • "But not their official Head of State"

    --- The leaders are officials, they are the Head of the Governments. The head of state has any power, it's only a symbol like the flag or the national hymn.

  • Parliamentary system (part of the definition about Head ot State/head of Gov):

    "Parliamentary systems usually have a clear differentiation between the head of government and the head of state, with the head of government being the prime minister or premier, and the head of state often being a figurehead, often either a president (elected either popularly or by the parliament) or a hereditary monarch (often in a constitutional monarchy).

  • -"the price you pay for true freedom of speech"

    -- Yes, you're free to tell bullshits, like I'm free to correct you.

    "More corrupt than the governments of the Middle East..."

    I'm not a leftish. North Korea and the countries you took as exemple are not democracies. You are proud to be less corrupted than this countries? Wow congratulations... It's not very difficult.

    I've compared your government to the european governments of the monarchist countries.

  • "I'm free to correct you"

    --HA!! The day you correct me will be the day the sky falls, friend.

    "the countries you took as exemple are not democracies"

    --No shit.

    "I've compared your government to the european governments of the monarchist countries"

    --There is no comparison.

  • You quote me and answer:

    "you call all your friend to down my comments"

    --I didn't call anyone. You just can't fathom the idea that others don't agree with you .

    So, I know you're right, you didn't call anyone.

    And that's why you didn't quote my whole sentence:

    "you call all your friend to down my comments (or maybe YOURSELVES WITH MANY OTHER ACCOUNTS, I post a comment and 1 hour later it has -8, for a video of only 1410 views for 1 year)"

  • "or maybe YOURSELVES WITH MANY OTHER ACCOUNTS, I post a comment and 1 hour later it has -8"

    --So you're saying I have 7 other YouTube accounts? What a waste of time that would be. But feel free to prove your claim. It's been well established that YouTube's view counter is not reliable.

  • "How many vote has little to do with the quality of the democratic methods employed. In Iraq under Saddam Hussein they had a 99%+ turnout. I guess that makes Hussein's Iraq a REAL democracy compared to Europe, huh? Idiot."

    - Yes you're right... Today, I voted for the regional elections (true) because the police forced me... with a gun aimed on my head...

    That's how we vote in Europe... Thanks for learn the truth: I can't: what I write is controled by the government..... --'

  • "just a protocol"

    --If it's just mere protocol, why have it, then? Laws which are necessary & have consequences & purpose are laws a nation keeps. If it can be disposed of, they don't keep it.

    "elected AT THE MAJORITY"

    --A ruler can allow the People to have all th elections they want. Doesn't mean the People rule.

    "your system is not a democracy"

    --We have a Republic. Just shows how ignorant you are. Since our President is a FEDERAL leader, the States elect him, not a popular majority.

  • "Your president is a federal leader, the states elect him"

    Your president is the not the president of all the Americans? The Americans are not equal? Some states have more power than others?

    Why the president is not elected by the Americans?

  • "The liberty are limited -> Patriot Act"

    --Again, you are ignorant. All you have is Leftist propaganda. My liberties aren't limited by the Patriot Act. Terrorists & their enablers have their liberties limited.

    "Your congress is the most corrupted assembly in the world"

    --More corrupt than the governments of the Middle East, or Venezuela, or North Korea? Yes, of course you'd believe that because you're a Leftist.

  • And to answer to your first comment, which is the true subject of the video: you're right, the european countries were not democracies at the time of your Revolution... BUT at the time of your Revolution, the USA WERE NOT a democracy.

    All the western european countries were democracies for long time when the USA became a democracy...

    And your country became a democracy... 45 years ago... when you give to black people (10-15% of your population) the civil rights...

  • "BUT at the time of your Revolution, the USA WERE NOT a democracy."

    --BUT we became one very soon after. Our democratic governemnt is older than yours.

    "45 years ago"

    --You could say that, if you wanted to redefine every word & topic you feel like discussing, making certain all defintitions agree with your own opinion. What a way to live; everything in the world is actually the way you see it, so long as things are defined according to your beliefs. I think that's called a "delusion."

  • ouuuuuuuuuuu zwo!!!!!

  • this is bs!! greek "democracy" was no democracy.only a very small pct of people (less than 1%) were allowed to go to the polis and cast their vote by raising their hand. woman,slaves,workers and many others were excluded. plus, back than they didn't call it democracy, they even said that "democracy is nothing but a mobocracy and thus one of the worst systems" (Aristoteles). those commentators should read some books instead of criticizing and getting facts wrong...

  • You dont get it do you.Democracy comes from demos and demos discribes the group that is allowed to vote.

    The extraordinary thing with a democracy is that the demos is allowed to vote their leaders at all(not appointed because of family[first born son of a specific family],by god himself or as living god amongst men).

    How a polis or,in this age,a society defines the demos is irrelevant.For example today people that havent reached a certain age arent allowed to vote and still we are a democracy.

  • sorry i didnt see your first comment, so you partly did correct me. but i personally dont think that how the demos is defiend is irrelevant. children not having voting rights is certainly different from the vast majotity of the (adult) popolation not having voting rights. anyway i wouldnt call the greek "democracy" a democracy when even they themselves were against the idea of democracy. wrong again? at least thats what i learned and read.

  • EEYYYYYY, du bist Österreicher, verdammt. Warum tauschen wir uns dann nicht auf deutsch aus? Wir sind echt gehirngewaschen man. :))

    Ich will nicht zu besserwisserisch rüberkommen, aber: Polis beschreibt ein gesellschaftliches Gebilde, wie heutzutage das Wort Gesellschaft. Und du würdest ja auch nicht sagen die Menschen gehen zu wählen in die Gesellschaft. Die Vorraussetzung, um überhaupt wählen zu können, ist Teil dieser Gesellschaft oder Polis zu sein.

    Gruß von nem Piefke....:))

  • nein eigentlich bin ich italiener,aber ich lebe momentan in österreich...ja du hast mit polis natürlich völlig recht,ich habe polis mit dem anderen wort verwechselt, es fällt mir im moment nicht ein, glaube es beginnt mit a (agora kann das sein? oder was anderes mit a), da wo die wahlberechtigten sich versammelten und abstimmten..btw, wenn mich jemand verbessert kommt das nicht besserwisserisch rüber,ich profitiere ja davon, also danke.

  • P.S. You better check yourself in terms of reading some books, cause you used the word polis wrong and the quote you were using isnt from Aristoteles. Look it up yourself!!!

    Americans...hahahahaha....

  • i appreciate it when people correct me, so please correct me instead of just saying that i'm wrong. how did i use the word polis wrong? and the aristoteles quote: it wasnt meant to be a word by word quote, but essentially he did say democracy is a bad form of government and he called it mobocracy, didnt he?

    and btw: i'm not american, english is my 4th language, so dont diss me for it. and why americans haha? you think they are stupid? i dont think so, at least not more than any european country

  • She should have taken Joe with her.

  • America is not a democracy as fatdanios said, it is a republic! And I wouldn't even say it functions very democraticaly. Two parties which are virtually the same-- and a house that shares the same bottom line. Almost all voted for the war, fisa, the military commissions act, the patriot act, etc. Do the citizens even have a say? As Mark Twain said: loyalty to one's country, not its institutions.

  • America did not have democracy until the middle of the 20th century (1956) when Utah finally gave the Indians the right to vote. Furthermore, America doesn't have 100% democracy even today - due to the electorate - there can be a situation like in 2000 when Bush became president, having less popular vote than Al Gore. All of you would easily say that Communistic (specifically, Yugoslavian Communistic) party is not democratic, but why is it different than the Republican and Democratic parties?

  • Through the whole history of the US, there have been situations that presidents were elected by compromise, even senators denied their democratically elected seat! All the words, you used to describe the US government: Democracy, Senate, Council etc. date back to Roman, or ancient-Greek times. I have been reading comments, on different sites, and 3 languages - and Yes, Americans are once again the laughing stock of the world

  • it is truly an honor to be the only one with a negative score here. lol, why don't people like these comments, they're purely facts. I was not aiming to insult anyone. Furthermore, why does it seem that all the people here are republicans? Maybe there lays the reason my comments were checked negative 3 times?

  • People should type in the search engine "The American Form of Government". Seems like people have the mistaken notion that the US is a Democracy. Wrongo!

    It's a Republic....but it's morphing into Socialism thanks to this administration. :P

  • Uh...hello Hillary...We DON'T have a "democracy" here, you idiot. It is called a REPUBLIC!

  • She must have the Biden Virus.

    It's amazing theses people get elected when they probably don't even know the pledge of allegiance.

    Or even care about it for that matter.

    Thanks for all your work here Conservative1001BG ***** always.

  • Is her blood pressure up or what? She looks SO bloated. Plus, she is basically making a fool of herself.

  • Why does she have any kind of goverment job?

    Oh yah.. liberals.

  • The world media doesn't know yet that they are supposed to cover up things like this for the Democrats...like the US media does.

  • This is NObama's "Change"?...What a fuckin' joke. To think that this dingbat could have been President...!

  • Keep them coming....*****

  • Of course she also mispronounced names. Can ya blame her? She was probably rushed in under sniper fire. ;-)

  • lol!

  • you see what happens when you vote idiots in

  • The United States does not have a TWO party system, but a multi-party system. The other parties are usually ignored and outspent by the Democrats and Republicans - and the media.

  • you are the hope for this nation. Bear many children and tech them your ways. I fear smart americans are an endangered species. And don't forget to vote 3rd party.

  • Condi, where did you go? Rice always carried herself with class.

  • Was she running from sniper fire?

  • Oh man.. they are totally Bushing this up! Did you hear about the symbolic red button that dumb cunt gave to the russian embassador? It was supposed to say "reset" to symbolize a new relationship with Russia and they put the wrong word on it. It says "Overloaded" not "reset". This administration is a joke.

  • Oh yeah, lol. I heard about that today. Don't those clowns over in the State Dept. have translators to help them out?

  • It truly is a joke and we are going to have to suffer for it for the next 4 years.

  • Not is, as I predict the moderate democrats wake up and realize that that f-ing the got was in the wrong part of the anatomy and start to push for him to stop.

    I even see his own party as potentially impeaching him. They don't want to be slaves any more than we do.

  • I couldn't believe that was really true, so I had to Google it. LOL That's pathetic.

    The article I read had some other historic gaffes as well -- all Democrats:

    "President Kennedy famously declared himself a jelly donut standing in Berlin. President Carter's translator, wishing to express the commander in chief's enthusiasm upon arriving in Warsaw, mistakenly told the stunned Poles that Carter would like to make love to them."

  • That's fantastic! Could you send me the link in a pm or post it here? I need toread that and I can't seem to find it on google.

  • Zombie, I sent you the link in message.

  • Do you still have the article? Could you send me the link in a PM here on youtube? Please! Thanks!

  • Sure, fatdanio, I'll message you.

  • Hillary is making a great impression as representative of the US. Its great to see that the Democrats are extending that olive branch abroad to our natural enemies and can't even remember their names. Way to go Hillary! Now we really do look like weak, stupid Americans

  • Experience. lol:)

  • whoopsy. although if I remember right. We are the oldest form of democracy that hasn't ever changed. If that makes any sense to you.

  • That's true, in some ways. You make a good point. But the European continent has always had some form of democracy for thousands of years though.

  • Yeah that is true.

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