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  • i adore weaponry, but only few that i admire much being the beauty of war... one example are those musket and arquebus usage!

    I always wonder how musket and arque reload, and now i know it! Thanks man!! great video for history!

  • just think havin all thos commands 2 fire 1 shot and 2 add 2 it havin bullets wizing half an inch from ur head and cannon balls shootin over ur heads and the guy left and right of u dying

  • Ik zou graag eens mee willen doen.

    Maar eerst heb ik een vraagje...

    Moet je het uniform en de Musket zelf zien te bemachtigen?

    Of kun je het gewoon aanschaffen bij het 7e?

  • So a soldier puts gunpowder in a small slot for it, then dumps the rest down the barrel and the container with it, and pushes it down with a metal stick, and is ready to fire.

    I guess the part about adding in a pellet would come after putting the gunpowder and the container down the barrel, and then stuffing both down the barrel.

  • good work

  • @wojownikpolski

    Thanks.

  • These guys use cannonpowder in their guns!

    if you listen thers'not one shot but severeal burns after eachother.

    Dutch cut costs on their poudre....

    Thats why ther not a worldpower anymore...

  • @knetterkont

    Waren we ooit een "worldpower"dan?

    En heb jij enig idee hoe een musket werkt???

    En het is "gunpowder" trouwens.

  • In de 17e was Holland een "worldpower".

    Euh, een musket is toch zo'n ding wat met kruyt een pannetje en een vuursteentje ofzo!? Ik weet wel dat er fijn kruyt in moet en geen "zwart grind" wat voor de kanonne is bedoeld. Daarom gaan ze niet tegelijkertijd af!

  • @patsamu

    aaah ja zeker was Nederland een 'Worldpower'

    gouden eeuw waren wij het dominanste land ter wereld.

  • @knetterkont that is because there are several guns firing lol

  • Very nice video

    What nationality are these guys?

  • @theolliepotter Hi, thanks for the compliment, as you can read from some older comments, these "guys" are Dutch (so am I) :-)

  • @patsamu

    Ok :) Good shooting men of the Netherlands!

  • forgive my ignorance but is the Dutch belgian drill demonstrated in this video the same as the french 12 stage loading ( obviously with different commands) BTW very nicely put together video and a very well drilled and turned out unit

  • Yes it´s probably is the same, since most officers came from the impirial French army as well as a large proportion of the men. So they already knew those orders and drills. Thanks for you compliments.

  • It looks like M1766 Charleville.

  • springfield muskets nice and i think over the hills and far away by john tams would have been more appropriate for this vid

  • i can fire four shots in 56 seconds thats faster than most guys in the battle could fire after you load and fire your first shot start with the powder first and then ball and wadding when you go for your powder get it all at one so your not double dippin that will save you time

  • The real way to do it is to do exactly what they did, only not throw the paper in yet, then put the bullet in the barrel, then put the paper in and use the rod to push it tight.

    They just took firepowder and the paper at once without bullet cause they were gonna blank fire it. However that does not show ho to properly do it.

  • Hoe kan je daar Re-enactor worden?

  • Nice, very nice sir.

  • DUTCH SPEAKERS, DUTCH UNIFORM

  • dutch is germany???

  • Dudes don't give him thumbs down for his comment. Instead explain it to him. It's not as easy to know for everyone, cause the language i pretty simular, and it depends where you live yourself.

    As for your question wck0652006, dutch means Holland or Netherlands, whatever you call it. Amsterdam is the capital city in that country.

  • it was so obvious to see that they are dutch! the background was orange!

  • Very nice and detailed video! Awesome!

  • NO no, we aren NOT Prussian, we are from the (south) Netherlands. Witch is nowadays called Belgium. So you can call us a Dutch (speaking) unit. Still, thanks for your comments.

  • prussians.

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  • prussians ROFL

    look at the words man

  • No I won't.

    :P

  • Dutch, I reckon.

  • they look like prussians or dutch

  • omg the beginning is the intro of band of brothers, loved that series. :D

  • is reenacting fun? i dont really know, but i love doing this kind of stuff

  • dude hell yea it is!!!! the good thing about it is that theres a type of reenacting for almost every war. the most popular forms in the u.s. are rev war (revolutionary war) and civil war, europe mainly napoleonic and seven years war

  • i m french and the guy dont speak french

    its suedois ? dutch ? flammand ?

  • The guy was speaking in Dutch.

  • is that the french? just wonderin

  • No. I think.. think it's German.

  • Ohh, i though it was french because of the blueish uniforms(im color blind so its hard to tell). Any way this is great. Anyone here do civil war reenacting like me?

  • which side?

  • idk they sound odd to me im thinkin they maybe dutch or maybe my germans getting bad idk

  • Well i THINK its one of the napolion(please excuse me if i spelled it wrong) era. Anyway, it is prety cool.

  • if anything im feelin they are dutch only cus of the initial scroll down words

  • yea i guess your rite. I would like 2 own 1 of those muskets. Muskets are awsome, def the one i use for reenacting.

  • i think it wud suck if like some teens drove onto the battle field with like ww2 weapons n a golf kart

  • at cedar creek tatical, the rebs used trucks. we still won!

  • lol how do u counterattsack trucks? lol real ammo

  • fix bayonets, pop tires!

  • lmao r u serious? what other crazy things have happened?

  • nahh, we dident do that, we should have. But instead we just fought and still won. You should try out reenacting its fun.

  • i dont have a gun tho =(

  • i dont either, im getting mine in about a month. They loan u 1 to use most likeley. Just look it up online.

  • yes it's french

  • they  fought against the french.. these guys are dutch and belgium

  • ohhh

  • Hi, well, they weight in at about 4,5 kilos.

    That isn't much heavier then a (fully loaded) FN-FAL which I used during my army days. (Yes I am that old)

  • are flintlocks heaver then they look?

  • yea

  • Maakt vaardig xD klinkt lekker oubollig

  • love the music

  • is brown bess right

  • lame

  • super mooi gedaan jongens

  • Dank je....eh..jongen

  • hey the band of brothers song i loved watching band of brothers even if i am only 9

  • Hi, the " song" is indeed from the Band of brothers soundtrack and the language spoken is Dutch.

  • I don't think it is french. It sounds alot like dutch.

  • I'm French. Agreed, it's not at all French !

  • cool song, its from band of brothers right?

  • Yes, this is the main theme from "Band of Brothers," by Michael Kamen. He also wrote the music used in "From the Earth to the Moon."

  • it was pretty good. they did speak in a different language.

  • Hi, thanks for the compliment, but what do you mean "they did speak in a different language"?

  • quite brief vid about loading muskets, thanks for uploading.

  • It would suck to have war like that.

  • it allways sucks to have a war...

  • One thing missing,

    a Frenchman blindfolded 10 meters ahead of the firing line.

  • hehe indeed

  • Dreams and frustrations could be a terrible combination. Nevertheless here are some famously translated french insults to this disrespectful comment : I fart in your general direction you empty headed animal, your father smelt of elderberries and your mother was hamster, I wave my private parts at your aunties, and so on. Best regards. La Grenouille.

  • the french are cowardly and smell like rotten cheese !

  • You're right ! Reading a such brightful comment forced me to surrender to your superior mind : I wave my personal white flag !

  • and they are so loud and stressed out ! i don't want them around me at all, STAY IN FRANCE PLEAAAAAASE !!!!!!!!!!! merci

  • I will obey, master !

    Seriously : indeed I will stay in France : who wants to leave paradise for hell ?

  • Yes i forbid you to bring your smelly french armpit somewhere else you bastard, you ARE in hell lol STAY THERE !!!!!! svp

  • I will obey, O Great Mind ! I will follow your orders like the fly follow the smell of shit, O Great Light of Mankind ! So you said, so it will be !

  • thats a good little froggy !

  • Don't worry about that : I don't mind about the few acres of snow you live in with your main love interests : caribous...

  • yes yes i love caribou ! now go eat some rotten cheese and FUCK OFF

  • I still love you (Hey! Don't be surprised, snowback, I am french anyway !)...

    Kisses, sweetie !

  • fuck are u a homo frenchie ?

  • Pleonasm, old man, pleonasm... I have a nice beret too...

  • I will make it clear : I am fag, a fairy, a homo, a queer, a frenchman, a little fairy ! And a proud one.

  • lol

    Mahi Tahi Kia Kaha

  • Hell.. ik zou wel lid willen worden van zo een groep.

    Dankje voor het uploaden.

  • zie website w w w.7bvl. n l

  • really nicely done video please upload some mor they are very good

  • Muskets are SOOOOO loud

  • BTW, we were also taken over by Napoleon.

    And now u must stop replying with your lies of england.its all Propaganda. William the 2th was a good man, and a good leader too. i hate it when people lie about it. I feel the same as the russians do now, about those lies about stalin.

  • and what makes you think your version of events is any more bias-inflicted? A good leader in later life perhaps - but a reckless idiot at waterloo. Please, tell me - what lies are told of stalin?

  • William II never went to England. William II is a full Hollander like me. BTW the only reckless idiot is YOU. Because u cant exept it that your version is full of propaganda and lies. And u are acting like he was the King of England. Because u said: blah blah blah - but a reckless idiot at waterloo. He never went there damnit. Now stop replying because ur version of history is full of lies. liar.

  • and your version is full of propaganda and denial. I weary of this contradiction, it's as tedious as it is flawed and in the end I suppose all that's left is for us to agree to disagree. Good day.

  • Ye right, Go lie again. I have read all of the messages again and there was nothing about the catholics. u just said he killed people.

    So if u keep lying. Go screw yourself and stop messaging. They all contain lies, Propaganda and all that other shit because u cant have it to be wrong.

    all what you have done havent made u right . im beginning to hate the British also. They are Arrogant, crapped, and they drink only but coffee. And if william II was kiling catholics, what about Holland then eh?

  • As i said his murderous mark is still left on ireland in form of the orange lodge. We don't have to prove his barbarity to anyone, let alone someone so obviously too arrogant and nationalistic to accept it.

  • OW btw. as u know. theres always a war in Northern ireland. Catholics against Protestands. William II of orange has nothing to do with it. he wasnt even running englands goverment. He was running the Netherlands like every other Royal Familly Member.

    Englands Goverment had taken over Nothern Ireland.

    But the irish republic didnt want that

  • The war in northern ireland ground to a halt when the IRA gave up their arms, moron. There is still animosity - but the 'war' as was, is fundamentally over. Prat. Ah, so we acknowledge that william II was of 'orange' now, we've finally made some headway into that dense skull of yours. Nothing to do with it? Your royal family had everything to do with it. Whilst it's true that, it was the 3rd of the line that formed the orange lodge, your history is not so clean as you would pretend.

  • Our history is clean. And is still being made. Like how a Dutch Patriotic Teen is making fun of a british Propaganda spreader. Yup, thats you. and DUUUUUH we all know the subname from William II. The intire royal familly has it.BTW I doubt if your thought up facts about WIlliam II are true. he ruled holland like any other king of the netherlands. Now for the last damn time. WILLIAM II HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT

  • King William the second, prince of Orange and nassau(19th century) has absolutely nothing to do with the Irisch conflict you stupid....that is "Stadhouder" prince William the third (17th century)....

  • it is rather incredibe how worked up you can get over something so insignificant as a youtube forum, quite pathetic. Now i suggest you read your own messages. You are as reluctant to change your views as I am, and your words are no less offensive, or ignorant.You are as arrogant as I am, my weak minded matey.

  • First of all: Im not your mate (Phew)

    Second, Once again a lie. I have read al messages from the past. And u had said nothing about the Catholics before the 9th message now. Wich makes it a proven lie of you. And the only one who is weak minded is you. Go screw yourself. And stop replying to prove your point to be right. Because it still hasnt worked at all. Ur not even progressing. Proves that you are lying is in the past messages. There is no escape for you and your lies.

  • niether are you you stupid little man. Seemingly incapable of forming anything constructive, you have been content to dispell everything as 'lies' despite the fact that it clearly isn't. Try, if you can, i know it must be hard for one of your limited intellect, but at least try to open your mind, or at least your eyes, to the fact that you don't have an immaculate history, no matter how much your own propaganda has bullshitted you to the contrary.

  • How dare u even to speak such things against a Dutch Patriot. And against the Dutch Goverment. Though im 14, my intellect is growing, im not drinking. and about the "lies" thing, You only say but lies.

    maybe thats the fact kid. I watched to my toe for a minute and its much more interresting then your childish squabling. Think twice before taking up a Patriotic Dutchman

  • It's quite easy to speak against these dutch nationalist - history speaks for me.

    And now we reach the tedious point in the argument where, deprived of anything witty, construstive, relevant or even interesting to say, you turn to weak personnal attacks, and repetative denial. Grow up, wake up and at least try to post something vaguely interesting.

  • Im thinking im gonna mark you as a spam because all of your propagada messages are less interesting then my pee. BTW if you want something personel. go to the army once ur grown up. i doubt if youll survive training though. every day i do 20 push ups once i get out of the shower.

  • way ahead of you on the spam front. lol. you're pathetic. That comment alone was proof of your utter immaturity. was that supposed to be pathetic. I do 50 pushups and 50 crunches every morning, and our army training is renowned as the toughest in the world. I wouldn't go though, as i hate fascism - a hatref you seem deprived of.

  • *hatred

  • well, after perhaps the swiss guard and the mossad, but it's all irrelevant. I'm 16, and that painfully irrelevant comment just went to show how you are whipped physically as well as intellectually. But i'm not here to bandy testosterone, nor to defend my heritage from your own. I'm here to enjoy myself, something you and your immaturity is making rather difficult. Savvy?

  • And now to u siriusshit. u think u have won?

    well no, there is lotsa more from where Dutch dissing out is comming from. speaking of dissing. i bet you are already dissed because u are changing subjects.

    something about the belgian and william II, somewhere in 1842 or somethin Belgium turned against Holland, and that was why we failed to resist the French, and William II had to flee to england.the history doesnt say anything about robbing, stealing and plundering Liverpool. U lose, point out.

  • I didn't say Liverpool i said Ireland, please go away and grow up. You are becoming very tedious very quickly, I didn't come on youtube to rattle sabres or testosterone with an irritatingly prepubescent dutch kid. The fact that you keep coming returning to this argument - wasting my time and the time of others on this page is testimony to your boundless arrogance and immaturity. Now, beat it.

  • Stop changing the subject u Retard. my mail is full of ur bullcrap, full of ur lies and subject changes. ur getting anoying and i begin to hate english fucktards more then ever. speaking of "beat".

    Im gonna beat you.

  • And now you reach the last bastion of the defeated moron - mindless aggression. Do you feel brave little dutchboy, hiding behind your computer offering pathetic threats and weak arguments from hundreds of miles away. You're not a man, you're a coward and I'll waste my time with you no longer. I may be considered annoying, but at least I'm not a feeble, inarticulate, violent cretin.

  • dude, i took on a 16+ guy before SO i can do again u puny racistic British asshole. Ur becomming a real pain in the ass right now. and i see u change it again eh? im brave enough to kill you and make breakfast of u. and if u are brave enough to take me on. why dont u come to holland to take on a dutch-patriotic minded 14 year old eh? and this is not my last message dude, im just beginning to warm up, puny little coward

  • WHOOOPS hehe. my sisters account, so dont go commenting on her account. (unless ur a coward who dares to fight girls only hehe) so when does ur next Lie/Subject change or any other bullcrap to help u out of the diss of a 14 year old?

  • You're brave enough only to sit behind a computer and send threats to strangers. As if you could sink no lower, you cower behind your own sister. Pitiful. It's strange how you continue to spam my account with these dim-witted messages and threats when you're clearly as feeble physically as you are intellectually.

  • dude, me cowering behind my sister?

    i posted the comment on her acc by accident, even smart guys make mistakes because they are human (exept u bcause u only lie and cant do any better)

  • Oh and one more thing, what you call 'subject change' is actually called development in conversation, if you left your computer and socialised abit more you might appreciate that.

  • why do u always make soooo big messages and u know people who read are understanding so little

  • just because you can't understand, doesn't mean others can't - and I write big messages because the idiocy you display warrants a big response. You want a shorter reply? then wise up and grow up.

  • Now I address the most stupid of your comments - calling me a racist. Here's some information about me that you might find illuminating - I'm a member of Amnesty International, CAFOD and a number of charities including the Waterloo partnership and am already heading toward aid work as a profession. I find you - a self-confessed aggressive, militaristic fascist accusing me of racism. Pathetic hypocrisy.

  • u are member of the retarded unknown group called CAFOD or somethin? dont make me sick. whats such an indenial asshole doing on youtube eh? i never seen old guys doing it behind youtube on their pc. this must be one big lie of u :P BTW i dont care about that u are member of some gayass club

  • hehe, 'retarded unknown group called CAFOD' - try the largest charity in the northern hemisphere you dolt - why not do some research before you make a total ass of yourself next time. indenial isn't a real word, so i don't know what yoru getting at there, and i am not an old guy, I'm 16 - where did you get that impression?

  • u act like an old guy, ur throwing away ur youth. and u keep saying i gotta grow up? hell no. i dont need to be grown up to me a nerd like u. And i dont care about that fucking CAFOD(Combine.All.Fuckers.Or.D­olts)

  • Oh not grow up to an old age - just pull your intelligence above that of the average toddler if you want this argument to continue - which i know you really, rather sadly do.

  • pff dude, u say ur 16. and ur already acting like an old fuck. ur throwing away your youth, BTW this has nothing to the subject we started about. i dont want to read any more of ur stupid thrown away life.

    it sucks and its boring and i dont care about ur groups, your jerking and expecially your lies.

    ...so...now this is done, lets forget the bullcrap life stuff of urs and go back to the fact that William II was fleed to england and the belgians were fucking it up

  • You are an idiot, nothing more, nothing less. Strip nationality aside, scrutinize yourself further - you are still a complete and utter idiot. And that you'll ever escape, even filled with denial as you continually are. I suggest -- really, with your own best wishes at heart, that you turn off your ego, breath deeply and turn away from the computer, before you embarrass yourself further.

  • pfff, whos ego here. dude, u keep comming back with some worthless speech for what i dont understand a word of. perhaps a whole lot of peeps think the same as me.

  • theres proabably alot you don't understand. Keep trying though, you might be able to form a coherant sentence in a year or two.

  • of, and fyi - we prefer tea, not coffee.

  • These guy look good! The best thing a young man can join to keep his head and heart going in the right direction "living History and re-enacting"!

  • Dutch Rule !!!!!!(im one :P :P :P) Great to see these fellas do this.

  • Imo Dutch doesn't sound like any other language it's very unique

  • now that im sober,i knew thay were dutch.HA!

  • Like the stupid english bitch that i am i posted my

    resent comment on my brothers channel,must be the disinfectant.

  • no difference between french and dutch,oh god kill me

    iv been drinking pine disinfectant again.Like i care.

  • Fuckoffyoucunt666, go screw urself and sell ur soul to the devil, go bother someone else.

  • Yes dispite the the fact that they speak two completely different languages, have completely different cunilary traditions, different military traditions, and the fact That the French are/were predominately Catholic and The Dutch are/were predominately protestant, there is no difference between the French and the Dutch.

  • pfff dude, if the language is nothing compared to the other, its a diffrence u fuck

  • french,dutch same difference to me.

  • Except that the Dutch were on our side at Waterloo.

    I'm sure you knew that though.

  • wel alisongreenaway, then you are SOOOOOO WRONG!!!

    Dutch and French don't look like eachother at all.

    Its commmon that britisch guys dont know diffrences between German and Dutch. But French and Dutch? What have you been eating\drinking?! U can hear it loud and clearly it's dutch!!! BTW The frenchies had a gay look-a-like hat with feathers for if u wanna know the diffrence

  • lol, u english men are pretty becomming dumb. THESE ARE DUTCH SOLDIERS!!! NOT FRENCH, if ya think that then ur stupid.And this has nothing to do with Belgium too. Belgians don't even have a culture. Not even a real own language, its french,dutch(Retarded speaking) and German(less do it these days).

    How the hell are people gona understand what those dumbasses are talking about? I'm Dutch and i cant hardly understand those dumb cultureless non-languagefull retards!?

  • dont u dare speak ill of ill of british people im british,14 years old and i know more about the peninsular war than u could learn in 20 lifetimes

  • Oh and i know nearly everything about WWI and WWII ha!!! And i am 14. and i bet u are just bluffing around. I am also busy with the Napoleonic war. And i know already more then a half, looks like i need only 10 years instead of 20 more life's. gotcha dissed coffee sack :P

  • The French can't fight their way out of a paper bag, ahaha!

  • ...?

  • ReesTVideos Normally this is true, unless you give them a short Corsican man.

  • nope, ya'll all are wrong, muskets were more accurate than today machine guns. A musket fires a bullet with a pack of gunpowder, instead, a machine gun fire each bullet with only half a teaspoon of gunpowder. Bows were not as strong as muskets were, bows were faster but not as accurate. Muskets fires through lines of men while bows can only fire through 1 line.

  • Some comments: First the rate of fire of bowmen is much higher than the rate of firing a musket (a trained fuselier/musketeer can fire 2 to 3 times a minute)If you let 100 trained bowmen fire at 100 musketeers at hundred yards distance the last men standing will be bowmen.....

  • second comment: We test fired some napoleonic muskets last year on a shooting range and we discovered accuracy of the musket is about 35-40 yards, (french perform better than brittisch muskets, but not much)after that you can actualy see the musketball "woble" from left to right in the air. This is because the velocity of the musketball is very low. And we had time to aim accurate, and this nearly impossible when you are in line and have to reload in haste.

  • So third comment a modern machine gun is much more effective in using its small portions of powder; , higher bullit velocity, less drag, and thus far more accurate and far more effective weapon.

  • You are right if you try to tell that you are more likely to survive a shot from a modern gun than from a musketball, 69call makes nasty wounds. (plus if you are wounded today on a battlefield you are quicker in the hands of real docters instead of the napoleonic butchers you had to crawl to in the early 19th century if you were wounded)

  • at the same time, the soldiers were drilled in loading and reloading a musket so frequently, that it became second nature. A good soldier could load and fire a musket about 3 or 4 times in one minute without any thought.

    Even then, you didn't actually have to aim with the napoleonic tactics, the volley deemed aiming all but redundant, for all but skirmishers.

  • we have tried; firing 4 times a minute is possible for a trained soldier, accurate aiming is as you say impossible. And you must pray that the musket fires every time you pull the trigger. The funny thing we experienced is that the musket works better with a little rain, than in dry weather where one would expect the spark would not ignite the powder when its raining... odd

  • that is a bit strange... and if the powders ground too fine, it blows your head off! interesting weapons muskets, must be fun playing with them :) have you tried with the baker rifle? that's very accurate.

  • We have tried french charleville's (ANIX, as in the vid) and British brown besses. We did a shoot-off a few weeks ago between the two rifles, to see if the brown bess can be reloaded and fired quicker than the Charleville as is often claimed. Unfortianately the Bess mallfunctioned probably due to a bad flint or maybe a dirty barrel or both

  • ; but we probably will get a chance to retry that duel in Waterloo next week. I personaly don't think the claim that a brown bess could be loaded and fired 6 times in a minute will hold.

  • 6!? not a chance! Good luck at waterloo by the way, where abouts are you to be stationed?

  • We are stationed at Hougemont Farm (dutch-belgian unit, so in the alied camp) There is a lot of info on the websiteof the french 8th demi brigade has the info if you are interested: Happy to see in the french battle plans that we will win ... suprise!

  • lol! well i never!:p

    I'll certainly have to look into that site. Dutch belgian - you'll be under the Prince of Orange then? An appaulingly bad leader if truth be told, but no matter, are you an officer or a ranker in your unit?

  • I am only a ranker or what's called a fuselier (man who caries a Fusil= french for gun) I won't say that the prince was a very good leader, he was only 23 years old, but he prevented Ney to push to brussels the 16th while the brits were nowere to be found.

  • He is not as stupid though as portraied in Brittish studies. Wellington misjudged the danger at quatrebras completely, and was lucky H.H. was smart enough to send over a brigade there.

  • The problem in this the standart work in anglo saxon history. is the report by Siborne, it's based on only brittish reports, and when Siborne ran out of money, the regiments sponsored him, if he would give them a more prominent place in the battles.

  • so it's full of brittish bias, as is Mercers report, who was late at quatrebras, and had his as saved by a Nassau brigade at waterloo, but he "forgets" to mention that, the same way Siborne forgets to write that the 2nd dutch cavalary div. of Boreel was shot at point blank by Brittish troops, who couldn't distinguish them from the french...

  • aye fair enough, though he admittedly made a lot of stupid mistakes, glory hunting and so on. I suppose i'm just biased really, living in Liverpool - lots of irish people and he was a right bastard concerning the irish

  • BTW eh, sirius711. What has William of Orange to do with it. If you speak bad about the Royal Familly then u have got something with me. And i think also other hollanders if you ask me. The Prince of Orange has nothing to do with Napoleon you brick!!!

    He was dead in the 80 yeared war. He was leading victory for The Seven Provincies (later known as the full Netherlands) Belgium has nothing to do with WIlliam. So it's real dumb u just wrote this about.

    AND HE WAS A GOOD LEADER!

  • William of orange was a young man at waterloo, a battle he was most definitely in attendance. He was commanding a combination of dutch and belgian troops (many of which defected) and he was a poor military. Must be a case of mistaken identity.

  • Dude, u know nothing of William of Orange, u haven't read it good like any other british cowfart. The belgians had nothing to do with William of Orange.

    And so does it at the napoleonic war. Like i wrote "william died wile the 80 year old war."

    He retreated to England, but later he came back to free the seven provincies, what now is called Holland (Netherland) And belgium had nothing to do with holland. LISTEN BETTER NEXT TIME