Blown Out Of The Water: "It's All So Perfect"

[eepruls]

Why do Creationists always argue that through evolution, we're not 'special'? The fact that we evolved intelligence makes us special. And are they blind? We're not some totally different creature from everything else on earth. Look at every animal for goodness sake! Why do they fear the fact that we're just intelligent animals?

[DeltaAtheism]

Sentience is something very special, yes.

[q7spiz]

@eepruls Impulse control, because intelligence is part of what makes us more than animals. I think if there is evolution, then life was created for the purpose of evolution. Most human evolution occurs with intelligence and the mind can effect DNA as well. If there is indeed natural selection, then there must be some selector. You can call it the higher power. An intelligence that exists as signals in energy, that made it so that there seems to be endless possible discoveries to provide purpose.

[DeltaAtheism]

That selector is environmental and social pressure. Animals less adapted to their environment or less attractive to others of their species - for whatever reason - do not survive or breed as well, and thus the other traits survive disproportionately.

[q7spiz]

@DeltaAtheism Energy fields are interlaced with environment and group consciousness that is involved with social pressure. There are consciousness frequencies located on all levels of the electromagnetic spectrum, that respond to the beings interpreting things through their perception wired with their brain that has radio frequencies going on inside of it. Humans operate on different rules than animals because they have a different level of consciousness and physical design. We survive with mind

[DeltaAtheism]

Can you prove this interlacing so that it is more respectable than something that sounds like Deepak Chopra might spout?

[q7spiz]

@DeltaAtheism There is the infrared of things and their external infrared fields. Just below the visible spectrum. In between what is visible and what is molecular with Terahertz.

[DeltaAtheism]

Infrared is simply heat. It is radically different from what you are trying to assert, a sort of New-Agey "mind" in everything.

[q7spiz]

@DeltaAtheism Mind in energy fields around everything. Not the things them selves all the time necessarily. Information in the field determining how matter behaves. There is heat or some times cold in peoples external infrared fields. I feel and see the external infrared fields and even figured out some subtle weather shifting with the field. The earth has an external infrared field too and its related to fluctuating weather. When the field shows, its called the aurora Borealis.

[DeltaAtheism]

Nice try. The Aurora Borealis is a magnetic phenomenon, caused by highly charged particles in the solar wind - being directed along the lines of force of the planetary magnetosphere - towards the poles, where they ionize atoms of gases in the atmosphere. Red is oxygen, green another gas, and so on.

[q7spiz]

@DeltaAtheism And atmospheric gases take on temperature. A wide range of frequencies aren't identified to be on the electromagnetic spectrum for nothing. Everything still operates in a certain way that can be explained by intelligence and have its purpose defined by intelligence. Laws require intelligence. There is also gases involved with auras, including argon gas. Neon and extra voltage makes energy fields more visible. The magnetosphere is an energy field.

[DeltaAtheism]

You are confusing descriptive laws with proscriptive laws. The latter are indeed ascribed by an intelligence - eg "those caught trying to start a war will be executed".

Descriptive laws are simply, well, describing the way reality operates. Fg = Gmm/r^2. Does that mean some intelligence is commanding gravitons (assuming they exist) to move in the exact pattern and with the exact quantum field that they have? What about F=ma? Ksp = [Na+][Cl-]? A=(2)pi(r^2)? These are simply descriptions.

[q7spiz]

@DeltaAtheism Sure, math is a description of how things operate. Math can travel as data in waves just like any data can. If information can be carried as waves through space, then how do we know that it hasn't been done already in nature to transfer natural data to various places? Science is only scratching the surface, no matter how far they go. There might not be an end to how many discoveries could be found.

[DeltaAtheism]

You are completely abandoning your original point, that "laws need a lawgiver".

And what kind of statement is "Science is only scratching the surface, no matter how far they go"?

Not only does it sound unfalsifiable and self-replenishing - I suggest you look up Sagan's "dragon in the garage" - but upon what is it you base such a claim?

[q7spiz]

@DeltaAtheism The entire history of science with one generation of scientists end up discovering more than the last or previous generations. Theres still more to find out, because there is still more problems to solve and there is still more out there to discover. Allot of cosmos that we haven't even been to in person yet.

[DeltaAtheism]

Yes, that is all true. But it in no way supports your beliefs. The time to believe something is when there is evidence for it; you do not believe something just because it might be true. If, a thousands years ago, someone claimed of something called "magnetism", it would be unreasonable and irrational to believe them until they presented evidence, even though it was true.

[q7spiz]

@DeltaAtheism Not everything is belief. I don't feel this magnetic pressure between my hands because I believe in it. I feel the magnetic pressure because its just there. I don't see energy fields because I believe in them. I see energy fields because there are actually there and they do move with whatever or whoever they are around. I already started looking for evidence of what I believed in 6 years ago, and I found it. UFO's were actually there when I saw them because other people saw them.

[DeltaAtheism]

Call James Randi. He has a million dollars for you if you can prove this.

[q7spiz]

@DeltaAtheism You can magnetize previously unmagnetized metal and you can demagnetize magnets because its not totally the physical properties that are defining the magnetization. Its the kind of charge that is put into the metal that causes a shift in its energy fields properties. There is iron in blood and I could have allot. There is electricity in the heart, brain, and magnetic polarities in the spine. Brain waves are radio waves. We can't observe something without changing it.

[DeltaAtheism]

The magnetization of material is due to what are termed "domains" in the material, little clumps of aligned ferromagnetic bundles. This is atomic in origin and there is nothing unusual about it.

As for iron in blood, the amount is minute. One atom iron per hemoglobin unit. And hemoglobin is HUGE as molecules go.

And nerve impulses are NOT electricity. They are waves of depolarization caused by Na+, K+ diffusion.

And no, brain waves are NOT radio waves in the sense you are referring to.

[q7spiz]

@DeltaAtheism I still perceive what I do. Nerve impulses, oh are you referring to when I was talking about the electromagnetic polarities in the spine? Aren't atoms electromagnetic in nature? Theres allot of things that the electromagnetic spectrum encompasses. Brain waves are in the radio wave spectrum, on the electromagnetic spectrum. Why is there what is called static electricity? Isn't that implying that there is an electrical constant that is noticed when conditions cause a shock instance?

[DeltaAtheism]

No, you made the claim that "there is electricity in the heart, brain" which is simply false. Nerves are not electric; they transmit signals by pumping Na+ and K+ ions in and out of the cells, which eventually causes a voltage drop that then stimulates a similar process a short distance along the nerve. This is different from an electrical current.

Static electricity is simply building up a charge by removing electrons. Nothing special, though it can be spectacular.

[q7spiz]

@DeltaAtheism The static electricity seems to be related to ions, because these organic ions have less electrons than protons, so they have a positive charge. There are also organic anions that have more electrons than protons, so they have a negative charge. Because, protons have a positive charge and electrons have a negative charge. There is still a charge, is the point that I'm getting at. There is still something energetic: Ions. Thank you. I just learned more.

[DeltaAtheism]

So there is a (minute) electric charge on some atoms. So?

[q7spiz]

@DeltaAtheism Electric charge is energy, thats involved with consciousness because its in the brain and its part of what animates living things. Energy can't be created or destroyed. Signals don't always need a wire to travel somewhere. Everything seems to be part of a natural computer. We only see the front of the program, but we don't know everything about how the code is that has programmed it. There is allot more invisible light than visible light, and it does more than our artificial things

[DeltaAtheism]

One, electric charge is not energy in the sense you are using it. It is potential energy - akin to chemical or gravitational energy. Not some driving force that you seem to be seeing it as.

As for light, humans can only see a very small section of the spectrum. So? Most of it is not possible to receive on biological surfaces, and even if you could, it serves no evolutionary purpose.

[TheNorthFuck]

Great videos man, just need to work on fixing the audio. 5/5 stars plus I'm subscribing.

[DeltaAtheism]

Yes, I am currently working on that. As soon as I do, I will resume making videos.

[ajuk1]

Why didn't natural selection make the bones there thicker?

[DeltaAtheism]

In the wrist?

Because thicker bones would have greatly reduced flexibility and dexterity. The loss in mobility was greater than the gain in strength, so the environment never selected for it.

[BalthazzarCH]

great video.. but you should think about fixing your mic.... it's really hard to understand you.

[DeltaAtheism]

It's the noise removal system I (used to) put on it. I've since somewhat fixed it, though there is still the issue of cheap equipment.

[FinishedSentences]

The idea of god making us from dirt could actually suggests evolution if you think about it. Primordial soup and that sort of thing. A pile of dirt and then, eventually, humans.

[DeltaAtheism]

What you are talking about is abiogenesis - another point of contention with creationists - but it would be an enormously simplified (and thus inaccurate) version.

[Bowmaj21]

I love the classic "You're dumb to believe in Evolution! You believe you came from dirt!!"

Coming from the people who literally think that God made us out of dirt!

He could of magically spoken us all into existance like he did everything else, but according to Creationists, that wouln't be scientific!

Friggin' hypocrites!

[shilohrenovation]

Evolutionists claim that their beliefs are not based on chance, but on natural selection. How did natural selection arise? By chance! Also, I have never heard a creationist call anything on this earth perfect. The world is under a curse because you and I have broken God's law. If you have lied, stolen, blasphemed (i.e. used God's wonderful Name in disrespect), or have been sexually immoral, you are under a curse and will die. Jesus removes the curse from all who love Him, who delight in His Word

[DeltaAtheism]

And you have proof of this how?

[DeltaAtheism]

"don't wish to continue on this level of childish dialog any longer."

What's childish? Your getting crushed - repeatedly?

"I'm too mature."

I'm sure.

"If anyone has a legit ON TOPIC question, email it"

Notice the lack of contact information. He's not interested in a discussion, he wants to look smart. At that, he failed utterly.

"Good luck, ooops! good natural selection."

Even to the end, he misconstrues evolution as luck.

"Caio."

And there he goes "back to his flock to claim victory".

[SounzNice]

I don't wish to continue on this level of childish dialog any longer. I'm too mature. If anyone has a legit ON TOPIC question, email it, Thanks in advance. Good luck, ooops! good natural selection. Caio.

[SounzNice]

Delta, The speaker on this video is too slurred to make out what he's saying. Hire an enterpretter next time.

[DeltaAtheism]

"Delta, The speaker on this video is too slurred to make out what he's saying. Hire an enterpretter [sic] next time. "

1) Learn to spell.

2) I put 6 or so arguments against your points, and all you can do is give me an ad hominem? Grow up.

3) The voice processing makes it "too slurred"? Everyone else can understand it; perhaps you're just not listening or don't understand. Which would explain much.

[SounzNice]

>2) I put 6 or so arguments against your points, and all you can do is give me an ad hominem? Grow up.

May I call you Mr. Ad Hominem? You've truly earned the name. My response was strictly about your voice/audio. It stinks truly. Stop attacking people who correct you Mr. Ad H.

3) The voice processing makes it "too slurred"?

No IT STINKS! Really! And you didn't even add the narration! TskTsk.

Everyone else can understand it;

You know everyone. Does your middle name start with a G?

[1RadicalOne]

"May I call you Mr. Ad Hominem? You've truly earned the name."

Irony, anyone?

"You know everyone."

By everyone, I am referencing everyone who has watched this video, with the exception of you.

"Does your middle name start with a G?"

No, and what relevance does THAT have?

[bamboo4tameshigiri]

It must be pointed out, because it is so damned comical, that when that moron says "So I believe in god and you believe in dirt" he has 100% twisted what the bible says. The bible specifically says Adam was a golem. A golem is a "magic man" in the jewish tradition made from: DIRT. I laugh at every creationist moron who ever looks down their nose saying: "so you just believe lightning struck some mud and it came to life?" LMFAO! Christians are usually too stupid to know their own bible.

[SounzNice]

Illogical.

Correction: either it's random chance or it's I.D. no other scenario exists. Name one thing that occurs without ID or random chance.

[totdos]

Must be hard do be that stupid

[SounzNice]

Must be hard to show how I'm stupid.

Who's the truly stupid one?

[jamer01]

You idiot. The whole video tells you how you are wrong. Natural selection is not synonymous with random chance.

[SounzNice]

>You idiot. The whole video tells you how you are wrong.

The video is ummm let's see, oh yeah, a video. Keep believing everything people say. You're proof natural selection failed once.

>Natural selection is not synonymous with random chance.

Says who? The video.

And thanks for completely ignoring what I said. Again, name one thing that occurs without ID or random chance.

[DeltaAtheism]

"The video is ummm let's see, oh yeah, a video. Keep believing everything people say...Says who? The video."

IDIOT. You say that you can't believe a video that has proof from other sources, but you can believe a bunch of bronze age scribbles because you're too stupid to realize it's fairy tales?

[jamer01]

I told you once already. Read the next sentence carefully then you shouldn't need to reply again. Natural selection is something that is neither ID or random chance.

[SounzNice]

>Natural selection is something that is neither ID or random chance.

Natural selection is an evolutionist's pipe dream. Prove this wrong. (Provide an example).

>I told you once already. Read the next sentence carefully then you shouldn't need to reply again.

RIGHT! Grow some brains and you won't need to reply again.

[1RadicalOne]

"Natural selection is an evolutionist's pipe dream. Prove this wrong. (Provide an example)."

Read the comments we send to you, then you'll understand.

[1RadicalOne]

"Grow some brains and you won't need to reply again."

Of course. Classic 'believe as I do or you're dumb."

[bamboo4tameshigiri]

"Who's the truly stupid one?"

You are. That was an easy question. Let's try something at the college level now. I got an A in my world religions class. Is or is not the biblical "Adam" a golem? Why or why not?

[SounzNice]

>You are.

More proof natural selection is a pipe dream.

>That was an easy question.

What was?

>Let's try something at the college level now.

Ok professor.

>I got an A in my world religions class. Is or is not the biblical "Adam" a golem? Why or why not?

Another off topic question professor. Why? You couldn't answer my question eh. You fail. Sorry I don't play by your aka switch and bait rules, but the answer is no; God breathed life into the dirt. Read your bible better.

[DeltaAtheism]

"More proof natural selection is a pipe dream."

The fact it's proven doesn't mean anything to you?

"You couldn't answer my question eh"

You ARE a typical YEC. Completely ignore the arguments against you, and pretend you won.

[bamboo4tameshigiri]

"Another off topic question professor. Why? You couldn't answer my question eh. You fail. Sorry I don't play by your aka switch and bait rules"

LMFAO!!! Are you PCS on a sock account? Are you listening to yourself. You are doing what my psychology professor called "PROJECTING." By that, you lost big time and I am done with you. I already know that you are too ignorant to stand a real debate.

[SounzNice]

LMFAO!!!

Another easily amused bystander.

Fart fart who's there.

>Too ignorant

Thanks for the compliment and defending nothing so I can move on to someone who can discredit my position. And thanks for dodging my question too.

Saves me time.

[bamboo4tameshigiri]

More classical evasion. Evasion seems to be this specimens most used weapon of its defensiveness. This is almost always a sign of weak faith, as it is typically a form of overcompensation for deeply buried (often subconscious) doubt about their faith. The truly faithful never act this way.

[DeltaAtheism]

"Must be hard to show how I'm stupid.

Who's the truly stupid one? "

Excuse me while I laugh at you.

[SounzNice]

That's funny? .. you're easily entertained.

Guess fart jokes knock you out of your chair.

[DeltaAtheism]

"Guess fart jokes knock you out of your chair. "

Fart jokes? Are you two?

[SounzNice]

It's a shame and pitty really that the biggest troll here is the very guy who created this video.

[DeltaAtheism]

"either it's random chance or it's I.D. no other scenario exists"

BZZZT. False Dichotomy.

[SounzNice]

BZZZT. False Dichotomy.

BZZZT. Your false dichotomy is BZZZT. False Dichotomy.

[DeltaAtheism]

"BZZZT. Your false dichotomy is BZZZT. False Dichotomy. "

Now that REALLY makes me laugh. You clearly do not understand the concept of a false dichotomy, nor of debate.

[DeltaAtheism]

SounzNice? You exemplify the following quote:

"Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon — it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory."

-Scott D. Weitzenhoffer

[SounzNice]

>Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon — it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory."

Big come back .. and you have to quote other people too. Good. BTW why do evolutionists play chess with pigeons?

[DeltaAtheism]

"you have to quote other people too"

Let me guess; you want we to quote your idiocy.

"why do evolutionists play chess with pigeons? "

It's an analogy. Your inability to not take things literally also explains much.

[DeltaAtheism]

That should read "you want me to quote your idiocy."

[SounzNice]

Let me guess; you want we to quote your idiocy.

No, try backing up the claims in the video .. for starters. Then the Ad homenim will come naturally to you when you start losing your argument. Trust me on that one.

[1RadicalOne]

"No, try backing up the claims in the video .. for starters."

Try looking things up. And not in your bronze age scribbles.

[bamboo4tameshigiri]

"No, try backing up the claims in the video .. for starters. Then the Ad homenim will come naturally to you when you start losing your argument."

LMFAO!!!! Pull up a chair kids, we have the most wonderful example of psychological "projection" right here trolling that I've seen in a month. Take care to note how it takes every argument and flips 180 degrees its own failings, projecting them out as part of what it thinks is an "argument."

[SounzNice]

>It's an analogy.

It's also off topic and ad hominem.

>Your inability to not take things literally also explains much.

You mean my inability to take things that are figuratively (non-literally) (like childish jokes) that are also seriously offtopic and ad hominem .. all of which btw explains more about you.

[1RadicalOne]

"It's also off topic and ad hominem."

Funny how you start claiming ad hominems after I point out yours.

"all of which btw explains more about you. "

And you go on to continue throwing them at me.

It's also funny how you fail to see the relevance.

[BadgerRavenmoon]

The Argument from Design is an utter FAIL, yet it is seemingly eternal.  Every Creationinst, Intelligent Design advocate and True Believer seems to think they are the first to make it.