How you do err. Stars falling from the sky does not mean whole stars. It means meteors, meteorites. elsewhere described as great hailstones. It could also mean stars and planets burning up. He did not say during his generation. he said "this generation" the generation that would see all these things come to pass.
You certainly limit the messiah by just 4 tasks. He also is to be cut off(Dan9-26) Did you forget that one? There are hundreds of scriptures regarding messiah, not just 4.
Happily. Regarding Jesus' false prophecy I direct you to read Matthew 24. In verse 24:29 Jesus predicts as part of the Tribulation that the stars will fall from the sky (which is simply physically impossible) and in verse 24:34 I says it will all come to pass during his generation.
As to the 4 tasks of the Messiah include: Being anointed King of Jews, Reunite the Jews in Israel, Bring world peace, Rebuild the Temple. Note that Jesus achieved none of these while alive.
You are completely without understanding of the words of Jesus or the bible. On the day of pentacost, they were all in one accord when the spirit fell upon them all as cloven tongues of fire and they spake in new tongues as the spirit gave them utterance
These are those who did not taste of death till they saw the kingdom of God. For the kingdom does not come with observation but the kingdom is within you.
Is this all you've got to call Jesus a false prophet?
Wow! The jews will make it a nuclear wasteland so that if they can't have it, no one else will..ever? I'm sure you're right. If they could do 9/11 to gain support in destroying their enemies, there is nothing beneath them. That only proves they are the sons of Belial. possessors of every evil trait known to the hearts of men.
If necessary I guess they will. As to demonizing them, go line up with Hitler and the other anti-Semites you foul minded SOB. You pray to THEIR God as a hand-me-down, you scumbag. Now you can kid yourself that your cult has the right of it, but really, your cult doesn't even know how to read the scripture, let alone interpret it correctly.
@formles777. You give much too much credit to jews by saying that unbelieving jews would be the ones who would know. They have been driven out of every country in the world because they do evil everywhere they go. And if Jesus is not the messiah, why are they still waiting 2000 years later? No, the true jews accepted Jesus as the Christ. And they would be the ones who would know.
It is true that the Jews have been driven out of every country. They have learned the hard way that Christians are evil, and in time they came to realize how to make their way in the world despite all the Christians trying to murder them every decade or so. Now in time they have built their own country in the Holy Land, and armed it with nuclear weapons so it cannot be taken away save that none may ever live there ever again. They're doing just fine.
The Jewish religion today can't be associated with the Mosaic Covenant. There is no temple, priesthood, or even covenant since they vanished for good in AD 70. There are no Levitical genealogical records available to re- establish the priesthhod even if they build another temple. It is an extinct religion.
I do know that Jesus prophesied the destruction of the temple would take place within that generation (Mt 24:34). When that was fulfilled in AD 70 the Mosaic Covenant was gone for good (Heb 8:13). The Messianic Covenant remains and that, as well as many other fulfilled prophecies, is proof enough for me that Jesus was a true prophet.
Right, and it was the unbelieving, Old Covenant Jews who rejected the Messiah and suffered God's wrath in AD 70. This ended the OC age and consummated the New Covenant age. Since that time all are one in Christ under the NC.
Jesus said: ..."The kingdom of God does not come with observation... the kingdom of God is within you." (Luke 17:20, 21 NKJV). His New Covenant Kingdom came while some of those standing there were still alive and has been here in full since AD 70 when the Old Covenant kingdom was removed.
How do you know the writer (if it was even Luke) didn't mean "you will be snatched up heaven like many in the Bible? One was taken in a space ship straight to God!!!.
Consider this, you could be taking the translation too literal. Tasting death, you must be conscious to taste death. Therefore dying in your sleep could be dying without tasting death. However anything is possible with Yahweh! Take a few minutes to think about the modern Bible that is circulated and how it was translated. Even the modern churches. There is much corruption. Much was lost in translation. The sabbath is Saturday, not Sunday. Christian Holidays are ancient pagan holidays.
That is utter nonsense. If your god is truly good, he could not allow his word to be misrepresented so that people go astray through ignorance of his teaching. If he was all-knowing he would know about misrepresentations of his word. If he was perfect, as scripture tells us, then he could never allow his word to be taken in error by a translator who by definition must be inspired by the holy spirit. Finally if he were almighty, we would have the power to act to intervene.
@formless777 The word isn't misrepresented. Jesus was talking to his disciples not idiot Americans. If you understand the Hebrew culture then you would understand that the kingdom of God from the Hebrew perspective simply means Christianity. The Kingdom Of God simply means ordinary people operating under the power of the holy spirit. Every disciple except Judas, stayed alive and received the holy spirit and operated under it's power which means Jesus was right. Learn Hebrew culture
So how do the Jews understand the Kingdom of God ? Do they think it means Christianity ? I don't think so. And really, they'd be the ones who'd know.
@formless777 The Jews that accepted Christ understood fully that the Kingdom Of God was a spiritual kingdom; brought about by the receiving of the Holy spirit. Jesus gave Peter the keys to the kingdom so it's obvious he had immediate access to it. Matthew 16:19. (I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.") Of course the Jews that didn't receive him reject that idea.
And yet Judaism persists as a religion. You do know that Jesus didn't actually fulfill even one of the 4 conditional prophecies of the true Messiah, and that is why the Jews deny him ? Don't you think that the Jews know better than this silly outre and highly paganised cult that grew up around one Jew who was provably a false prophet i.e. Jesus. In fact Jesus and Satan have more in common than Jesus and Yahweh.
@formless777 The Jewish are looking and waiting on the antichrist. He made Israel a nation again and keeps them in power under the protection of the beast(America). When the beast is destroyed then Israel will recognize their error. Their are lots of Israelites who believed in Jesus after all it was the Chief priests and pharisees who killed him not the common folk. He exposed the Church leaders and that threatened their power.
You must be proud to be such a rabid anti-Semite. And so wrong ! The Jews don't regard Jesus as their messiah or one of their prophets, because he failed as a messiah and his teachings were incompatible with the Torah, especially the one about being a man-god like the Roman Emperors. The prophet Isaiah foresaw the coming of Jesus and called him Morning Star, Satan. Revelations 22:16 confirms that Jesus is indeed the Satan Isaiah saw. Surprise !
@formless777 All Jews don't think the same just like all American Christians. You assert every single Jew share the same belief. You are right however that the their church leaders and most common jews didn't accept Jesus as their savior. Jesus predicted that when he stated the first(jews) should be last and last(gentiles) will be first to enter the Kingdom Of God which is here now for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.
I think we can talk about a meaningful statistical average that represents what most of the Jews think on this issue. As to Jesus' predictions, he also predicted that all the stars would fall out of the sky before 200AD, and that didn't happen either. Jesus failed the 4 tasks of the Messiah, and he was a false prophet. Jesus = Samael the desolate one. That is what you worship.
ANYONE CAN SAY THERE IS NO jESUS BUT WHEN YOU DIE YOU WILL SEE HIM IN ALL HIS GLORY AND YOU WILL FALL TO YOUR KNEES AND WORSHIP THE TRUE KING OF KINGS EVERY IDOL PUT BEFORE HIM SHALL HE DESTROY AND THE WICKEDWHO DONT BELIEVE IN HIM SHALL PERISH IN HELL
Could it be that he as in Jesus, was merely stating the fact that those that are there observe heaven as here on earth. That you see the sun-(son) riding the clouds, etc. etc.
Wow, you Christians strain at everything. Words which Jesus clearly meant literally such as "this generation" "shall not taste death" "coming in glory on the clouds" really don't mean any of those thing to you in your desparation to save liar and deceiver Jesus. Fine, argue that, but then don't be surprised when no one is amazed at your "fulfilled prophecies" with their ever changing semantic goalposts.
I used to be Christian, I am not anymore. Did you see the line that says "That you see the sun-(son) riding the clouds etc. Christianity is nothing but a solar based religion like any other out there with different names etc. Watch zeitgeist the movie it will explain everything much better than I can.
Ah okay, sorry. Considering some of the wacky excuses I've heard from Christians to maintain a belief in their lies, I couldn't tell if you were a Christian trying to excuse this prophecy. I'm sure there is a solar basis, but imo much of Christianity can be traced to its dual foundation by the mentally deranged cult leaders Jesus and Paul.
I don't even believe that Jesus is real, but another propagation of the solar deity. For instance, when asked the sign of his second coming Jesus said that there would be a man carrying a picture of water (Aquarius). Jesus at the time was Pisces, The Jews before him was the sign of the Ram which is Ares and the sign before that was Taurus from the mystery religions of the past. These teachings are to help us remember the great year of 26,000 plus years.
The koran is the final book of GOD(ALLAH) and Mohammed is the final messenger of ALLAH.. can you see the sign... lets take a look in the final sermon of prophet mohammed..
This is a false conception. Tsk,tsk! dracoinvictus, you have not been reading, have you? The apostle John is indeed dead, BUT he did see the kingdom BEFORE he died. Read Revelation chapters 4-5. Jesus was right!!
Jpchenhadley, to finish my statment here's ho you fulfilled prophecy; the bible says in 2 peter 3:3-5 "Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days SCOFFERS, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that..."
So? Mormons say the same thing about those who scoff at their prophecies. You just have your double standard, which makes you overlook Jesus' false prophecies while seeing those of others. That quote from 2 Peter means nothing, if I make ridiculous claims, then say "wo to those who mock my ridiculous claims for God shall torture them" it doesn't make my claims any less ridiculous or false. It just means I'm using threats and mental manipulation on top of spreading lies.
It really is very simple he was talking of the apostle JOHN who saw the kingdom and wrote about it in the book of revelation. then john died ,if jesus had meant physically seeing then John would never have died because when the kingdom comes there will be no more death! make sense now! jesus said till they see the kingdom of GOD once you see the kingdom of GOD you live forever
FIRST OFF YOUR NOT TOO SMART JESUS WASN'T A PROPHET JESUS WAS THE SON OF GOD, HE WAS GOD. Any body that say he was a prophet that's not true, JESUS spoke face to face with GOD, Prophet here the words of the FATHER but can't see his face. JESUS said I and the FATHER or ONE.
You enter the kingdom of God when you get born again, when you accept Jesus as the LORD and that he died for us on the cross to pay for our sins and that God raised himm from the dead for our justification.
Then you become a new creation and you are in the kingdom of God.
So anybody that accepted this after the crucifiction and resurection entered the kingdom of God, so Jesus was absolutely right about that.
If you understand the statement "Kingdom of Heaven" to represent a physical place, then Jesus was wrong. But if it is a state of being alive in the here and now, then he was right.
When I see the comments left by those who are calling themselves Christians, I understand why Christianity is failing so badly. If you post my first response I would like you to use it for an example. In it I offered "facts" pertaining to the Bible, I never disrespected you, and I offered an alternative view while still respecting yours. Please wake up you sleepy headed Christians. Good grief!!!
One more thing then I'll take a breath. Suppose you wanna be a little more specific and remind me that Jesus said "those standing here today, or right now". Not including anyone absent at that moment. Check and see who all was there and then check and see if their deaths and last moments are accounted for. Then apply the same logic. It's all in the way ya look at it sometimes. God bless ya buddy!!!
I believe you misunderstood. Jesus never said they wouldn't die. He just said they would see The Kingdom before they did. And even if Stephen had not been there when he said it, when you are talking to a group and you say, "You guys", you are also talking about the ones who are absent at that moment. They're still part of the group, so whatever you say to those present, you would be saying to those who weren't there at that time. Right?
I'm curious about your point here. If you read the new testament of the Bible, it does in fact give an account of one of those who never tasted death before he saw the kingdom of God. Before he was overcome with rocks, Steven said, "Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing on the right hand of God.
The "New Testament" is filled with lies about the man named Y'shua. It's all a Roman smear campaign meant to subvert fundamental Jewish values at a time when the Empire was seeing a great deal of Messianic disturbances. Numerous "Jesus"'s are mentioned in Josephus, and not a one of them seems to be the one spoken of in the "New Testament". For one, "jee-zuhs" is a pronunciation impossible in either Greek, Latin or Hebrew.
Jesus is the american way to say yeshua, retard. The disciplines names werent actually john, paul, timothy, etc but the names we know are the american translations. god that was a stupid comment
mothcorrupteth is correct- The apostle John Had the complete vision of God. A witness of the Eternal City of God the New Jerusalem, the New Heaven and the New Earth- I can't wait thank you Jesus for your mercy.
if you understood the verse and read the bible whole you woould see in many siduations where jesus offers eternal life. as we all know some of jesus followers deserted him, and it is written that we must all die once and then face the judgement. for there are two deaths the first death is just the death of your body in which you are still alive because the body is only a vessel for the spirit.
the second death is that of the soul in which god judges you and sends you to hell, so all men who die will see the kingdom of god because they will be judged there weasther to live forever or die. this is what i think off the top of my head plz dont only take my word for it reaserch and correct me if im wrong thx.
@formless777,
How you do err. Stars falling from the sky does not mean whole stars. It means meteors, meteorites. elsewhere described as great hailstones. It could also mean stars and planets burning up. He did not say during his generation. he said "this generation" the generation that would see all these things come to pass.
You certainly limit the messiah by just 4 tasks. He also is to be cut off(Dan9-26) Did you forget that one? There are hundreds of scriptures regarding messiah, not just 4.
glipzik 10 hours ago
@formeless 777,
Cite the scripture where Jesus predicted all the stars would fall out of the sky before 200ad.
I must have missed that one. And what are the four tasks of the messiah? Educate us oh learned one.
glipzik 3 days ago
@glipzik
Happily. Regarding Jesus' false prophecy I direct you to read Matthew 24. In verse 24:29 Jesus predicts as part of the Tribulation that the stars will fall from the sky (which is simply physically impossible) and in verse 24:34 I says it will all come to pass during his generation.
As to the 4 tasks of the Messiah include: Being anointed King of Jews, Reunite the Jews in Israel, Bring world peace, Rebuild the Temple. Note that Jesus achieved none of these while alive.
formless777 13 hours ago
@dracoinvictus,
You are completely without understanding of the words of Jesus or the bible. On the day of pentacost, they were all in one accord when the spirit fell upon them all as cloven tongues of fire and they spake in new tongues as the spirit gave them utterance
These are those who did not taste of death till they saw the kingdom of God. For the kingdom does not come with observation but the kingdom is within you.
Is this all you've got to call Jesus a false prophet?
glipzik 3 days ago
@formless777,
Wow! The jews will make it a nuclear wasteland so that if they can't have it, no one else will..ever? I'm sure you're right. If they could do 9/11 to gain support in destroying their enemies, there is nothing beneath them. That only proves they are the sons of Belial. possessors of every evil trait known to the hearts of men.
glipzik 1 week ago
@glipzik
If necessary I guess they will. As to demonizing them, go line up with Hitler and the other anti-Semites you foul minded SOB. You pray to THEIR God as a hand-me-down, you scumbag. Now you can kid yourself that your cult has the right of it, but really, your cult doesn't even know how to read the scripture, let alone interpret it correctly.
formless777 3 days ago
@formles777. You give much too much credit to jews by saying that unbelieving jews would be the ones who would know. They have been driven out of every country in the world because they do evil everywhere they go. And if Jesus is not the messiah, why are they still waiting 2000 years later? No, the true jews accepted Jesus as the Christ. And they would be the ones who would know.
glipzik 1 month ago
@glipzik
It is true that the Jews have been driven out of every country. They have learned the hard way that Christians are evil, and in time they came to realize how to make their way in the world despite all the Christians trying to murder them every decade or so. Now in time they have built their own country in the Holy Land, and armed it with nuclear weapons so it cannot be taken away save that none may ever live there ever again. They're doing just fine.
formless777 1 week ago
The Jewish religion today can't be associated with the Mosaic Covenant. There is no temple, priesthood, or even covenant since they vanished for good in AD 70. There are no Levitical genealogical records available to re- establish the priesthhod even if they build another temple. It is an extinct religion.
promisesrkept 1 month ago
I do know that Jesus prophesied the destruction of the temple would take place within that generation (Mt 24:34). When that was fulfilled in AD 70 the Mosaic Covenant was gone for good (Heb 8:13). The Messianic Covenant remains and that, as well as many other fulfilled prophecies, is proof enough for me that Jesus was a true prophet.
promisesrkept 1 month ago
Right, and it was the unbelieving, Old Covenant Jews who rejected the Messiah and suffered God's wrath in AD 70. This ended the OC age and consummated the New Covenant age. Since that time all are one in Christ under the NC.
promisesrkept 1 month ago
Jesus said: ..."The kingdom of God does not come with observation... the kingdom of God is within you." (Luke 17:20, 21 NKJV). His New Covenant Kingdom came while some of those standing there were still alive and has been here in full since AD 70 when the Old Covenant kingdom was removed.
promisesrkept 1 month ago
That's IT???
How do you know the writer (if it was even Luke) didn't mean "you will be snatched up heaven like many in the Bible? One was taken in a space ship straight to God!!!.
baalisgod666 10 months ago
Consider this, you could be taking the translation too literal. Tasting death, you must be conscious to taste death. Therefore dying in your sleep could be dying without tasting death. However anything is possible with Yahweh! Take a few minutes to think about the modern Bible that is circulated and how it was translated. Even the modern churches. There is much corruption. Much was lost in translation. The sabbath is Saturday, not Sunday. Christian Holidays are ancient pagan holidays.
DrBlueSparrow 1 year ago
@DrBlueSparrow
How do you know you must be conscious to 'taste' death? Sounds like a bald assertion without anything to back it up, to me.
You are right, there is much corruption. So, how does anyone know what the original words were? Answer, there is NO way to know.
dracoinvictus 1 year ago
@DrBlueSparrow
That is utter nonsense. If your god is truly good, he could not allow his word to be misrepresented so that people go astray through ignorance of his teaching. If he was all-knowing he would know about misrepresentations of his word. If he was perfect, as scripture tells us, then he could never allow his word to be taken in error by a translator who by definition must be inspired by the holy spirit. Finally if he were almighty, we would have the power to act to intervene.
formless777 9 months ago
@formless777 The word isn't misrepresented. Jesus was talking to his disciples not idiot Americans. If you understand the Hebrew culture then you would understand that the kingdom of God from the Hebrew perspective simply means Christianity. The Kingdom Of God simply means ordinary people operating under the power of the holy spirit. Every disciple except Judas, stayed alive and received the holy spirit and operated under it's power which means Jesus was right. Learn Hebrew culture
thementalpatient2005 1 month ago
@thementalpatient2005
So how do the Jews understand the Kingdom of God ? Do they think it means Christianity ? I don't think so. And really, they'd be the ones who'd know.
formless777 1 month ago
@formless777 The Jews that accepted Christ understood fully that the Kingdom Of God was a spiritual kingdom; brought about by the receiving of the Holy spirit. Jesus gave Peter the keys to the kingdom so it's obvious he had immediate access to it. Matthew 16:19. (I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.") Of course the Jews that didn't receive him reject that idea.
thementalpatient2005 1 month ago
@thementalpatient2005
And yet Judaism persists as a religion. You do know that Jesus didn't actually fulfill even one of the 4 conditional prophecies of the true Messiah, and that is why the Jews deny him ? Don't you think that the Jews know better than this silly outre and highly paganised cult that grew up around one Jew who was provably a false prophet i.e. Jesus. In fact Jesus and Satan have more in common than Jesus and Yahweh.
formless777 1 month ago
@formless777 The Jewish are looking and waiting on the antichrist. He made Israel a nation again and keeps them in power under the protection of the beast(America). When the beast is destroyed then Israel will recognize their error. Their are lots of Israelites who believed in Jesus after all it was the Chief priests and pharisees who killed him not the common folk. He exposed the Church leaders and that threatened their power.
thementalpatient2005 1 week ago
@thementalpatient2005
You must be proud to be such a rabid anti-Semite. And so wrong ! The Jews don't regard Jesus as their messiah or one of their prophets, because he failed as a messiah and his teachings were incompatible with the Torah, especially the one about being a man-god like the Roman Emperors. The prophet Isaiah foresaw the coming of Jesus and called him Morning Star, Satan. Revelations 22:16 confirms that Jesus is indeed the Satan Isaiah saw. Surprise !
formless777 1 week ago
@formless777 All Jews don't think the same just like all American Christians. You assert every single Jew share the same belief. You are right however that the their church leaders and most common jews didn't accept Jesus as their savior. Jesus predicted that when he stated the first(jews) should be last and last(gentiles) will be first to enter the Kingdom Of God which is here now for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.
thementalpatient2005 3 days ago
@thementalpatient2005
I think we can talk about a meaningful statistical average that represents what most of the Jews think on this issue. As to Jesus' predictions, he also predicted that all the stars would fall out of the sky before 200AD, and that didn't happen either. Jesus failed the 4 tasks of the Messiah, and he was a false prophet. Jesus = Samael the desolate one. That is what you worship.
formless777 3 days ago
@formless777 You are welcome to your opinion, but one thing we can both agree on is that the truth will be known one day.
thementalpatient2005 21 hours ago
ANYONE CAN SAY THERE IS NO jESUS BUT WHEN YOU DIE YOU WILL SEE HIM IN ALL HIS GLORY AND YOU WILL FALL TO YOUR KNEES AND WORSHIP THE TRUE KING OF KINGS EVERY IDOL PUT BEFORE HIM SHALL HE DESTROY AND THE WICKEDWHO DONT BELIEVE IN HIM SHALL PERISH IN HELL
NAHOMIE991 2 years ago
Could it be that he as in Jesus, was merely stating the fact that those that are there observe heaven as here on earth. That you see the sun-(son) riding the clouds, etc. etc.
mutant121 2 years ago
Wow, you Christians strain at everything. Words which Jesus clearly meant literally such as "this generation" "shall not taste death" "coming in glory on the clouds" really don't mean any of those thing to you in your desparation to save liar and deceiver Jesus. Fine, argue that, but then don't be surprised when no one is amazed at your "fulfilled prophecies" with their ever changing semantic goalposts.
Justjokingjackrabbit 2 years ago
I used to be Christian, I am not anymore. Did you see the line that says "That you see the sun-(son) riding the clouds etc. Christianity is nothing but a solar based religion like any other out there with different names etc. Watch zeitgeist the movie it will explain everything much better than I can.
mutant121 2 years ago
Ah okay, sorry. Considering some of the wacky excuses I've heard from Christians to maintain a belief in their lies, I couldn't tell if you were a Christian trying to excuse this prophecy. I'm sure there is a solar basis, but imo much of Christianity can be traced to its dual foundation by the mentally deranged cult leaders Jesus and Paul.
Justjokingjackrabbit 2 years ago
I don't even believe that Jesus is real, but another propagation of the solar deity. For instance, when asked the sign of his second coming Jesus said that there would be a man carrying a picture of water (Aquarius). Jesus at the time was Pisces, The Jews before him was the sign of the Ram which is Ares and the sign before that was Taurus from the mystery religions of the past. These teachings are to help us remember the great year of 26,000 plus years.
mutant121 2 years ago
this is blasphemy
spiritualaccent 2 years ago
The koran is the final book of GOD(ALLAH) and Mohammed is the final messenger of ALLAH.. can you see the sign... lets take a look in the final sermon of prophet mohammed..
you can watch in youtube.. peace be upon him..
artshop1321 2 years ago
You won't get answers by trying to tempt we.
All you have to do is ask.
TrueMime 2 years ago
Has anyone seen the latest polls? Christianity has been on a downward spiral for 400 years and lately it's been declining in America too. Woo hoo!
It shouldn't be long and everyone will realize that gods are just imaginary friends for credulous people.
a0eoj 2 years ago 4
This is a false conception. Tsk,tsk! dracoinvictus, you have not been reading, have you? The apostle John is indeed dead, BUT he did see the kingdom BEFORE he died. Read Revelation chapters 4-5. Jesus was right!!
vekl 3 years ago
Jpchenhadley, to finish my statment here's ho you fulfilled prophecy; the bible says in 2 peter 3:3-5 "Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days SCOFFERS, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that..."
vekl 3 years ago
So? Mormons say the same thing about those who scoff at their prophecies. You just have your double standard, which makes you overlook Jesus' false prophecies while seeing those of others. That quote from 2 Peter means nothing, if I make ridiculous claims, then say "wo to those who mock my ridiculous claims for God shall torture them" it doesn't make my claims any less ridiculous or false. It just means I'm using threats and mental manipulation on top of spreading lies.
Justjokingjackrabbit 2 years ago 2
Who fucking beleives this shit anymore? Goddamn, it's time to growup and say goodbye to your imaginary friend.
JochenHadley 3 years ago 6
i still believe it u got a problem
pologeo17 3 years ago
Jochenhadley, u should be careful what u say. U just fulfilled prophecy w/ ur statement: "fucking beleives this shit anymore"
vekl 3 years ago
@JochenHadley I pity you
turtleshellshocker 1 year ago
im sry to say but i know jesus is not god.
no offense to anyone in the christian religion
iphoneg2g 3 years ago 2
In the comments section of this video, we have the following interpretations:
1. Jesus was speaking of the "second death."
2. John fulfilled this prophecy with his "vision."
3. He's referring to a future generation that witnesses the "signs of his coming."
4. It referred to Stephen's "vision."
5. Some of those people might still be alive.
6. The "kingdom" is the "church."
If you can't take the verse at face value, you should at least get your apologetic shit together.
jonsonbrown 3 years ago 2
It really is very simple he was talking of the apostle JOHN who saw the kingdom and wrote about it in the book of revelation. then john died ,if jesus had meant physically seeing then John would never have died because when the kingdom comes there will be no more death! make sense now! jesus said till they see the kingdom of GOD once you see the kingdom of GOD you live forever
jeffken723 3 years ago
FIRST OFF YOUR NOT TOO SMART JESUS WASN'T A PROPHET JESUS WAS THE SON OF GOD, HE WAS GOD. Any body that say he was a prophet that's not true, JESUS spoke face to face with GOD, Prophet here the words of the FATHER but can't see his face. JESUS said I and the FATHER or ONE.
zeekdaville24 4 years ago
Matthew 12:28
But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.
Luke 17:21
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
This was indeed fulfilled on the Day of Pentecost when Holy Spirit filled His beleivers in the upperoom.
Estaah77 4 years ago
seems you do not understand scripture...
You enter the kingdom of God when you get born again, when you accept Jesus as the LORD and that he died for us on the cross to pay for our sins and that God raised himm from the dead for our justification.
Then you become a new creation and you are in the kingdom of God.
So anybody that accepted this after the crucifiction and resurection entered the kingdom of God, so Jesus was absolutely right about that.
JB12345214 4 years ago
kingdom of god means the church, kingdom of heaven means heaven
bogan182 4 years ago
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved" (Acts 16:31)
onlineministries 4 years ago
If you understand the statement "Kingdom of Heaven" to represent a physical place, then Jesus was wrong. But if it is a state of being alive in the here and now, then he was right.
adamsfall 4 years ago
satanic propaganda
fluffyX79 4 years ago
When I see the comments left by those who are calling themselves Christians, I understand why Christianity is failing so badly. If you post my first response I would like you to use it for an example. In it I offered "facts" pertaining to the Bible, I never disrespected you, and I offered an alternative view while still respecting yours. Please wake up you sleepy headed Christians. Good grief!!!
preacher4thedeaf 4 years ago
One more thing then I'll take a breath. Suppose you wanna be a little more specific and remind me that Jesus said "those standing here today, or right now". Not including anyone absent at that moment. Check and see who all was there and then check and see if their deaths and last moments are accounted for. Then apply the same logic. It's all in the way ya look at it sometimes. God bless ya buddy!!!
preacher4thedeaf 4 years ago
I believe you misunderstood. Jesus never said they wouldn't die. He just said they would see The Kingdom before they did. And even if Stephen had not been there when he said it, when you are talking to a group and you say, "You guys", you are also talking about the ones who are absent at that moment. They're still part of the group, so whatever you say to those present, you would be saying to those who weren't there at that time. Right?
preacher4thedeaf 4 years ago
I'm curious about your point here. If you read the new testament of the Bible, it does in fact give an account of one of those who never tasted death before he saw the kingdom of God. Before he was overcome with rocks, Steven said, "Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing on the right hand of God.
preacher4thedeaf 4 years ago
Oh man. This video is so dumb. I could retort this without even going back to the scriptures.
deconomou 4 years ago
may God open the hearts and minds of these people who know not and have listened not to Your word.
Lord God i come to you and ask you to open them up to Your Word Lord God and Your Will. in Jesus name, AMEN
ooNATIVEoo 4 years ago
JESUS IS GAY...i'm soo glad that i no more believe in this gay jesus
Angel99soul 4 years ago
no he is not...!
hannielynn 4 years ago
The "New Testament" is filled with lies about the man named Y'shua. It's all a Roman smear campaign meant to subvert fundamental Jewish values at a time when the Empire was seeing a great deal of Messianic disturbances. Numerous "Jesus"'s are mentioned in Josephus, and not a one of them seems to be the one spoken of in the "New Testament". For one, "jee-zuhs" is a pronunciation impossible in either Greek, Latin or Hebrew.
uziyahuidf 4 years ago
Jesus is the american way to say yeshua, retard. The disciplines names werent actually john, paul, timothy, etc but the names we know are the american translations. god that was a stupid comment
dannyboy785 4 years ago
Actually Jesus is the Greek name for Yeshua, which is translated Joshua.
deconomou 4 years ago
for wat shall it profit a man, f he shall gain d whole world but lose his own soul!!! mark 8:36
hannielynn 4 years ago
Only fake here is you devil.
blueblue1891 4 years ago
mothcorrupteth is correct- The apostle John Had the complete vision of God. A witness of the Eternal City of God the New Jerusalem, the New Heaven and the New Earth- I can't wait thank you Jesus for your mercy.
ValYnt1 4 years ago
shut your hell up
Combliminary 4 years ago
Jesus is not a false prophet.
He said when you see the signs of the second coming, the current generation on earth will not pass until he has come.
odmili 4 years ago
Ah, this prophecy *did* come to pass. John did not die until he had his Revelation.
mothcorrupteth 4 years ago
thank you sir. took the words right out of my mouth
dannyboy785 4 years ago
it is clear that you didnt understand BIBLe because youare spiritually Blind!! JESUS Saves! you must repent!He will forgive you...
dhang13957 4 years ago
Sounds like double talk to me. The soul is eternal.
dracoinvictus 4 years ago
if you understood the verse and read the bible whole you woould see in many siduations where jesus offers eternal life. as we all know some of jesus followers deserted him, and it is written that we must all die once and then face the judgement. for there are two deaths the first death is just the death of your body in which you are still alive because the body is only a vessel for the spirit.
andretunacao 4 years ago
the second death is that of the soul in which god judges you and sends you to hell, so all men who die will see the kingdom of god because they will be judged there weasther to live forever or die. this is what i think off the top of my head plz dont only take my word for it reaserch and correct me if im wrong thx.
andretunacao 4 years ago