so why are people protesting bush and spamming fascism on youtube under Olberman who is against the current government. To me it simply does not accomplish anything. They should be posting under the pro war/bush propaganda youtubers.
I love Olberman he is the only news this day that seems like actual news. True he is somewhat biased but he does not try to sell the story he simply presents it and uses the facts to get his point across.
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Fascism: 1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism 2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights 3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause 4. Supremacy of the Military 5. Controlled Mass Media 6. Obsession with National Security 7. Religion and Government are Intertwined 8. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts 9. Obsession with Crime and Punishment 10. Fraudulent Elections
Fascism: 1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism 2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights 3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause 4. Supremacy of the Military 5. Controlled Mass Media 6. Obsession with National Security 7. Religion and Government are Intertwined 8. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts 9. Obsession with Crime and Punishment 10. Fraudulent Elections
Fascism: 1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism 2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights 3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause 4. Supremacy of the Military 5. Controlled Mass Media 6. Obsession with National Security 7. Religion and Government are Intertwined 8. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts 9. Obsession with Crime and Punishment 10. Fraudulent Elections
And what do they do to our troops now? Are you so stupid to not know that none of the countries that we have fought, not even ones that signed the Geneva Conventions, treated our soldiers well? This so called "higher moral ground" does not deter savages from savagrery. No not ever.
Giving rights won, in the blood of OUR forefathers, to our enemies, in time of war, is just stupid and is a disgrace to the memory of every man that died to win for US.
The argument could be made that our forefathers fought against tyranny and abuse and FOR the human rights, constitution, and system of justice which Bush so calously is trying to throw away and using jingoistic patriotism to justify. I am no fan of big government and infringements on the rights of the citizens of this country, or the massive corporate influence. That mon ami is true conservatism.
Quit being so paranoid. In your own(the left)estimation President Bush can't even control of country of 30 Million with 140K troops. How is he going to control a country of 300M(US)with 2.2M troops, of which only 16% are combat arms. Go back to the childrens table.
Paranoid? It's Bush and Bushiites who use fear as a constant tool to push their agenda. Remember "The smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud", every time Bush talks he makes reference to terrorism or wmd or some reason to be fearful. Oh and its not just "the lefts" estimation, seems to be a general consensus at this point with violence spiralling out of control as the generals admitt.
external threats are very easy to guard against.... when something attacks you from the outside, it's easy to spot the enemy. Internal threats - such as being fed lies, propaganda, etc, are not so easy.
No party is clean of blame, but Olberman used fact to explain his argument, and he did a damn good job. This administration is shredding our constitution one amendment at a time. The Military Commision Act, Domestic spying, and the Patriot Act should have every american concerned.
In Iraq, there are insurgents and terrorists defying the will of President Bush. In the United States, there is a Congress which is meant to temper his will. Unfortunately, the Congress seems much less willing or much less able, to fight Bush's will than the insurgents of Iraq. I'm not so sure paranoia is something that shouldn't be considered.
And yet you fail to postulate an alternative as to how to illict intelligence from hostile suspects who resist the traditional & strict regulations that our interogators have relied upon. Curious...
Fascism: 1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism 2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights 3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause 4. Supremacy of the Military 5. Controlled Mass Media 6. Obsession with National Security 7. Religion and Government are Intertwined 8. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts 9. Obsession with Crime and Punishment 10. Fraudulent Elections
Fascism: 1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism 2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights 3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause 4. Supremacy of the Military 5. Controlled Mass Media 6. Obsession with National Security 7. Religion and Government are Intertwined 8. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts 9. Obsession with Crime and Punishment 10. Fraudulent Elections
Fascism: 1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism 2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights 3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause 4. Supremacy of the Military 5. Controlled Mass Media 6. Obsession with National Security 7. Religion and Government are Intertwined 8. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts 9. Obsession with Crime and Punishment 10. Fraudulent Elections
Fascism: 1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism 2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights 3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause 4. Supremacy of the Military 5. Controlled Mass Media 6. Obsession with National Security 7. Religion and Government are Intertwined 8. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts 9. Obsession with Crime and Punishment 10. Fraudulent Elections
Fascism: 1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism 2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights 3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause 4. Supremacy of the Military 5. Controlled Mass Media 6. Obsession with National Security 7. Religion and Government are Intertwined 8. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts 9. Obsession with Crime and Punishment 10. Fraudulent Elections
Fascism: 1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism 2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights 3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause 4. Supremacy of the Military 5. Controlled Mass Media 6. Obsession with National Security 7. Religion and Government are Intertwined 8. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts 9. Obsession with Crime and Punishment 10. Fraudulent Elections
Fascism: 1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism 2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights 3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause 4. Supremacy of the Military 5. Controlled Mass Media 6. Obsession with National Security 7. Religion and Government are Intertwined 8. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts 9. Obsession with Crime and Punishment 10. Fraudulent Elections
You are all a bunch of fools you are being manipulated for the upcoming elections in November.
It's politics people. The Clintons know this and you should to. All of you are falling for this BS and you will probably see more BS until Bill has his better half in a more favorable position for the 2008 elections with a democratic congress. The Democrats need to stack the odds in their favor for the upcoming 2008 elections.
No.. we are being informed about the lies of the Bush admin. And your trying to tell us that the republipukes don't manipulate people with BS. They are the kings of BS.
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I agree, I am stupid and it's not about Iraq. But is this really bs? If they show Bush saying something and then state that he said it is that somehow a lie? If Olberman is lying, then what is he lying about? Tell us.
when liberals argue against 'torture' what they're really arguing against is aggressive interogation of suspected terrorists. postulate another manner to illict intelligence from hardened belligerents and i'll consider it..
Every single Bushiite here uses the term liberal. Define it fuckhead. What is Bush's ideology? What is yours. We understand you are a degenerate half wit and will probably refrain from responding. oh and I'd consider sodomy torture, but I know how you Foley Republicans feel about that so we can leave it at that.
Actually, taodepaul, I don't know anything about interrogation, but from what I understand, torture does not work. I don't know of any instances of our government getting useful info from torture. I also believe that it is morally unacceptable. Even if people are our enemies they are still human, don't you think it's possible to go too far? What if they are actually innocent and we don't know it?
Project for a New American Century. Better yet check out the BBC documentary "Smoke and Mirrors". Brilliant film that won an Academy Award and chronicles the rise of neo-conservatism. Definitely wanted a new Pearl Harbor.
This type of thing happens all the time... That is Bush, Condi, whoever says something and it is proven they weren't being truthful... It seems to not matter. The Neo-Con media folk like Rush and whoever back his play every time without question and call "The Liberals" the liars. blah
What's with this stupid obsession the left has over how well terrorist are treated. I hope they torture those head chopping bastards. Torture them and kill them all I say. I don't care what the lilly livered libs say all they know how to do is lose wars. We shouldn't be rebuilding Iraq or any terrorist sponsors. We should flatten them and leave them graveyards so that they wont fuck with us again. Taking the "higher" moral ground wont do you a damn bit of good if you're dead. Fuck 'em.
Bombing people only makes them want to kill you even more, dingleberry.
Your mindset is exactly why more of our troops have been killed that on 9/11, and why our borders are WIDE open. Instead of putting 150,000 troops on our borders, making sure "terrorists" can't come across, you would put them all in Iraq - so far your theory is proving wrong in every sense of the word.
Not if they are dead, dipshit. I don't see any Nazi's or Japs trying to kill us and we bombed the shit out of them.
I say put 50,000 troops on the border, build a wall, deport ANYONE here illegally, confiscate their property and sell it to reimburse the taxpayers and we will all be better off. After that we can start enforcing treason laws so that your heroes can pay for their crimes against Ameica, the country you love to hate, bitch.
I'm in favour of the border wall and deporting the illegals (if at all possible anyway). However, what do you consider to be an act of treason? Oh and the reason the Japs and Germans stopped fighting was because they were the aggressors, knew it, had their countries bombed to nothing and millions dead AND most importantly had a choice between American or Soviet influence. Of course they chose to be our friends rather than the soviets, the choice now is not so clear I am sure.
I agree but you see the thing is that a couple hundred of them were released because they weren't really terrorists. How would you feel to have your limbs chopped if you weren't a terrorist? You can't kill based on speculation you fascist prick!
That would be assuming that they were convicted terrorists. A good deal of the detainee's haven't even been charged with a crime. Additionally, torture has this tendency to get the answers you want, even if the answers aren't true. In other words it's not reliable anyway.
All you neocon scum use the term liberal to define anyone against your views. Define liberalism please. What do you consider to be Bush's ideology. If you don't respond we will all understand that you are a biggot fool who has mush for brains. Oh and fuck off.
What's with this stupid obsession the moderates have over how well americans are treated. I hope they torture those baby bombing bastards. Torture them and kill them all I say. I don't care what the lilly livered pacifists say all they know how to do is lose wars. We shouldn't be selling them oil. We should flatten them and leave them graveyards so that they wont fuck with us again. Taking the "higher" moral ground wont do you a damn bit of good if you're dead. Fuck 'em. -- Osama
Out of curiousity, where did you get that quote? I'm not saying it's fake but some of the language and terminology isn't exactly in the manner that Bin Laden tends to use when addressing the media.
Fascism: 1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism 2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights 3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause 4. Supremacy of the Military 5. Controlled Mass Media 6. Obsession with National Security 7. Religion and Government are Intertwined 8. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts 9. Obsession with Crime and Punishment 10. Fraudulent Elections sound familiar?
Very well defined jrubin22. From reading these remarks, it would seem that anti-Bushies are intelligent, well educated people and neo-cons are a bunch of dimwitted, foul-mouthed idiots who can't put a decent sentence together to save their lives! No wonder they all voted for Bush, they are just plain stupid!
Once again, Olbermann has all the facts and uses them to disembowel the Bush Administration. The fact is the Bushies did nothing before 9/11 and called off the military when OBL was pinned down in Tora Bora.
We less safe today than on 9/10/06, and it has nothing to do with a lack of presidential power. It has to do with a lack of presidential will and, perhaps even worse, the desire of Republicans to create a climate of fear to stay in power than safeguard America.
Kcb1234 you must be smoking the wrong kind of dope. Condi Rice lied through her teeth when she denied that the Clinton administration had given the Bush administration a plan to deal with Osama and his followers. Perhaps you should re-read Richard Clark's book. I wouldn't believe Bush,Rice,Cheney or Rummy no matter what they said about Iraq and why we are there. Bush should be impeached.
How can the neo Kunts denay this? they are a joke now that we have torture as part of our constitution once we get power back we can declare all neokunts enemy combatants, put them in prision and torture them.
Please define liberal. You goofs throw the word around so define it. Define Bush's ideology and what you think that is. I know but you idiots got no clue, just like throwing it around.
This is absolutely false and Mr Olberman knows it. Richard Clark himself says there was no terrorist policy drafted by the Clinton administartion. Mr. Olberman will go the way of Dan Rather because his obsessive hatred for Mr. Bush will lure him into one day fabricating negative news jus as Mr. Rather did. 30 years ago they would have gotten away with it, but those days are gone.
I think this is splitting hairs. Clarke said there were problems with Clinton's terror policy but at least attempts were being made. Several plots were foiled in 1999 because of an alert system in place. Regardless of what Clinton did or didn't do though, it doesn't change the fact that the Bush admin ignored numerous pieces of evidence outlining the threat as demonstrated here by Olberman. I think it's time for the Bush defenders to admit that.
Absolutely true. The Bush administration comprehensively ignored terrorism before 911. Shameful liars and incompetent cowards cannot persevere, not in America, sorry dude...
And the document penned by Clarke, which you claim doesn't exist is title "Strategy for Eliminating the Threat from the Jihadist Networks of Al Qida: Status and Prospects"
"In a sense we are all detainees"...wow, how Murrow-esque of you. More like Burro-esque... big ass, no point. But KO is a hit on u2b, just like lonelygirl. Call him Netherguy, as that's where he keeps his head. (Look it up.)
The thing about 9/11 is, if you ask yourself who logically has the technical know-how and resource to pull off the attack all fingers point back at us. Who benefitted from 9/11? How/Why did WTC collapse?
kathleeninthegreen you must be crazy you should be scared that you have a president that does things by conviction. You have put your faith in one mans hands thats a very sad mind state. I thought a democracy is when the majority's opinions are taken into account and a dictatorship is when a country is run by one mans convictions?
America is a representative REPUBLIC not a democracy. Besides the republicans have only a slim majority in our federal government not like facist California legislature with its one party rule. This country was never intended to be ruled by the whims of the ignorant masses (libs). We elect people to represent us and if we don't like what they do we vote them out. I am sure Bush had better grades than you (better than Ho-Chi-Min-Kerry at least)who obviously didn't pay attention in history class.
here, here. I voted for Senator Kerry as well and am glad he lost. He has proved to be a cut & run advocate on Iraq. That's not to say that our President hasn't prosecuted the war incompetently (he has) but at least he's sticking to it.
Define liberal. It is a word that is thrown around by idiots who have no idea what it means. What do you think Bush is, and what is the definition of his ideology? I know, but I doubt you have any clue.
A liberal is a half-a-commie-gay-loving-god-hating-free-to-be-me-go-hug-a-tree-hate-America type who believes that if it moves tax it, if it keeps moving regulate it, and if it stops moving subsidize it. Everything else they believe in isn't much better.
Clearly you are a moron with no conception of liberalism or any other ideology for that matter. Economic liberalism is actually virtually synonomous with free market capitalism idiot. Politically it is idealistic believing that democracy and freedom, grounded in American values, should define American foreign policy and should be spread around the globe. That is the true definition allbeit simplified. I am no liberal, I am a realist. But according to the definition, Bush is quite liberal.
Was I talking about "economic liberalism" moron? I know all about ideologies. I know what a socialist, a communist, and a facist are, I just choose to describe them by the American name for what their hatred for America has mutated into = LIBERALS.
Your an idiot. Economic liberalism and political liberalism are of the same ideology moron. I just broke them up to describe the two facets. modern liberalism is a broad spectrum of ideologies, commercial Lib., Republican Lib., sociological Lib., Lib. Institutionalism: all forms of modern liberalism that differ greatly. Clearly your an idiot who formulates opinions based not in facts but ridiculous assumptions generated by a juvenile, uneducated mind.
A socialist, communist, and a fascist! No, really. Do you want a cookie. Sounds like those are the only ideologies you know of, and I doubt you even know what they really entail. Communism maybe cause of the airtime its gotten. But even among these basic ideological extremes which you seem to think define the term ideology, I still doubt you know what fascism even is.
You're right, America is not a democracy, and why should it be? People don't want democracy, they want strong leaders who do what they want regardless of what the people want or need. I say, give the people what they want, let's just drop the pretense and end all these useless arguments and elections and appoint bush for life (seriously).
So what is your ideology and what is Bush's jackass? Seeing how you seem to think you have a brain you should be able to answer this, but then again I suspect you are merely another of the worthless Bushiite scumbags who have their information regurgitated to them by fox news in the form of mush that resembles your brain.
Let me tll you something, I dont give a damn about Bush! He's so much more a liberal than Clinton in a lot of ways. I voted for him mainly to keep that half a commie traitor out of office. If Bush started kicking ass in Iraq his poll numbers would go up and only you America haters would be mad. You want to see a dictator? Vote for Al Gore.
Hmm, that statement pretty well flew in the face of your entire commentary up until now, (which has been in defense of Bush). I think Gore would of been of the best presidents in recent memory, far better than Clinton. He would have tackled issues that matter, like energy policy, environmental law, healthcare, the economy. Dictator? What do you think Bush is doing? He's spending all our money and giving us nothing in return.
Don't lie, you didn't vote for Kerry. What a jackass. At least be what you are, we all see through it anyway. Kerry was a poor excuse for a candidate but compared to Bush he was a sight for sore eyes, even with that Frankenstein like mug.
If Bush expressed an intellect comparable to most of your presidents then conviction alone Might be acceptable. For you to simply roll over on everything W says and does because he has conviction is ridiculous. You dont know the mind of a man by his words alone. That means you would be perfectly happy with a president who was simply a good actor that was able to express conviction well. Absurd!
If all you ever do is say the opposite of Bush you are just as likely to be wrong as him. Besides just because his words aren't as slick as that Arkansas hillbilly rapist are doesn't matter. Actions speak louder than words and there are a lot of dead terrorist because of Bush which is more than you can say about that hillbilly rapist.
No, Bush has been wrong on virtually everything. Name five things (important things) which Bush has been right on, if you can I'll name 50 he's been wrong on. By the way last I checked consensual sex between adults is not considered rape. Just a thought. And Clinton mad something of himself, he didn't come from money. Bush was handed everything he ever did, including the election (both times).
#1.6.6 Millions jobs created in the USA since 2004. #2. ederal budget defecit 50% lower than projected for fiscal year 2006.
#3.Unemployment at 4.7, (much lower than 1990's average.)
#4. Tax cuts. Don't let the facts get in the way of your 50 juvenile opinions. And ,by the way, lying under oath, in a court of law, in a sexual harrassment case, in which you are the defendent is called perjury and that is what the hillbilly rapist did to get impeached and disbarred.
Thats only 4, really 3 but I'll refute them anyway. First #1 & #3 are the same thing, duh. And why don't you look into the wages of those jobs, which have dropped consistently throughout Bushes terms #2. Actually its 22% lower and thats still $250 billion higher than Clinton. #4 Tax cuts have been almost entirely favourable to the wealthy (yeah I know the trickle down effect and all that BS.)
#2 Deficit for August '06: $ 70 billion, an all time high surpassing July's previous record. So much for that big deficit cut. Looks like its similar to initial projections, and of course thesefigures are all relative to China's massive surpluses. Economics, I know tough to understand for juvenile minds like yours.
Yeah unfortunately, punk, that hillbilly rapist you love wasn't fighting wars in two countries. Unless you count Bosnia which YOU KNOW was threatening our national security. Air-bombing Sarajevo over a genecide that didn't happen. Clinton Lied Bosnians Died. Illegal aliens and corrupt unions drive down wages. Economically, don't give Clinton credit for what Newt made happen. The top 10% of the richest pay 70% of taxes, Bottom 50%, less than 4%. Poor people don't give you jobs.
WTF are you rambling on about? The middle class shoulders the largest tax burden idiot. Yugoslavia did amount to ethnic cleansing and we perhaps stopped the genocide. Iraq was no threat, even Collin Powell recently stated that all the fcts used were exaggerations and "deliberately" misleading, ie. Iraq was a war of choice, not necessity. Republicans are in power and are doing nothing about illegals. Newt was in for a good part of Bush's term but I guess even he can't work miracles.
What are you talking about? "Did the bush allow pre-knowledge of 9/11 but let it happen?" I'm just trying to understand what your question actually is. Are you trying to ask, "Did Bush have pre-knowledge of the 9/11 attacks, but still did nothing to prevent it?" The question was brought up by another reporter the other day on C-SPAN, she asked Bush "if it was true, that the Clinton admin. gave him details on a possible terrorist attack in america?" Bush danced away from that question.
I think he's is wondering whether it was not all deliberately overlooked and bungled because if fit so nicely into the neo-conservative vision for the world as drawn up in the Project for a New American Century, which needed an attack to gain public support for its military campaigns. I think KO doesn't ask because being the only real journalist he walks a fine line in corporate media.
I like when they actually show official comments to back up the story as is done here. Excellant!
But the Republicans have outsmarted the Democrates again at election time. Starting with ABC's movie the whole topic of conversaton has shifted toward defending Clinton work of six to ten years ago when they should be talking about what each member of congress has or has not accomplished the past two few years.
it's funny that dick cheney has profitted the most from all this and remains the most invulnerable man in the administration. he shot a man!!! and it got less coverage than AN AUSTRALIAN named STEVE IRWIN.
it's also funny that the people who are defending the bush administration find external sources to redicule (president clinton.) while the people who attack the administration need only the words and actions of the administration itself.
He accidently shot HIS own friend, dipshit! Its not like some inner city crack dealer shooting a rival. Its also not like he gave nuclear technology to the North Koreans or let Osama go, AFTER he was captured in Sudan. That was your hillbilly rapists doing. Isn't it funny how, for liberals, history started 10 minutes ago. You know, it is one thing for people to think you are an idiot than for you to open your mouth and prove it.
Keith talks a lot of sense but it's time to drop the Edward R Murrow voice. Ever since 'Good Night and Good Luck' reminded us of how Murrow spoke, it's been a little weird.
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jeffreycoy 4 years ago
This is so full of it....
MMKSGEH 4 years ago
The Bush administration and their indifference--or deliberate neglect--must be held accountable.
snarkicus 5 years ago
Condi is so full of it . . .
paul51 5 years ago
i am a filthy whore & a cunt.
unrevealed 5 years ago
so why are people protesting bush and spamming fascism on youtube under Olberman who is against the current government. To me it simply does not accomplish anything. They should be posting under the pro war/bush propaganda youtubers.
I love Olberman he is the only news this day that seems like actual news. True he is somewhat biased but he does not try to sell the story he simply presents it and uses the facts to get his point across.
tenthtry 5 years ago
And may I add, Keith quotes "facts" . . . he does his homework and it shows . . . . BIG TIME BABY.
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GowdeyNMC 5 years ago
you rock.
SmokescreenNinjaz 5 years ago
Masterpiece of journalism!!!!
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SeagirlX 5 years ago
And what do they do to our troops now? Are you so stupid to not know that none of the countries that we have fought, not even ones that signed the Geneva Conventions, treated our soldiers well? This so called "higher moral ground" does not deter savages from savagrery. No not ever.
Giving rights won, in the blood of OUR forefathers, to our enemies, in time of war, is just stupid and is a disgrace to the memory of every man that died to win for US.
sfvdude13 5 years ago
The argument could be made that our forefathers fought against tyranny and abuse and FOR the human rights, constitution, and system of justice which Bush so calously is trying to throw away and using jingoistic patriotism to justify. I am no fan of big government and infringements on the rights of the citizens of this country, or the massive corporate influence. That mon ami is true conservatism.
killerkel555 5 years ago
Quit being so paranoid. In your own(the left)estimation President Bush can't even control of country of 30 Million with 140K troops. How is he going to control a country of 300M(US)with 2.2M troops, of which only 16% are combat arms. Go back to the childrens table.
taodepaul311 5 years ago
Paranoid? It's Bush and Bushiites who use fear as a constant tool to push their agenda. Remember "The smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud", every time Bush talks he makes reference to terrorism or wmd or some reason to be fearful. Oh and its not just "the lefts" estimation, seems to be a general consensus at this point with violence spiralling out of control as the generals admitt.
killerkel555 5 years ago
external threats are very easy to guard against.... when something attacks you from the outside, it's easy to spot the enemy. Internal threats - such as being fed lies, propaganda, etc, are not so easy.
hanniballecturer 5 years ago
No party is clean of blame, but Olberman used fact to explain his argument, and he did a damn good job. This administration is shredding our constitution one amendment at a time. The Military Commision Act, Domestic spying, and the Patriot Act should have every american concerned.
1PatriotUSA 5 years ago
In Iraq, there are insurgents and terrorists defying the will of President Bush. In the United States, there is a Congress which is meant to temper his will. Unfortunately, the Congress seems much less willing or much less able, to fight Bush's will than the insurgents of Iraq. I'm not so sure paranoia is something that shouldn't be considered.
Quicken2 5 years ago
Here's your pacificier, there's the corner. Us rational people will continue with us grown up business.
taodepaul311 5 years ago
And yet you fail to postulate an alternative as to how to illict intelligence from hostile suspects who resist the traditional & strict regulations that our interogators have relied upon. Curious...
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jrubin22 5 years ago
You are all a bunch of fools you are being manipulated for the upcoming elections in November.
It's politics people. The Clintons know this and you should to. All of you are falling for this BS and you will probably see more BS until Bill has his better half in a more favorable position for the 2008 elections with a democratic congress. The Democrats need to stack the odds in their favor for the upcoming 2008 elections.
It's not about Iraq stupid.
makeinstall 5 years ago
No.. we are being informed about the lies of the Bush admin. And your trying to tell us that the republipukes don't manipulate people with BS. They are the kings of BS.
theflagsuckers 5 years ago
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killerkel555 5 years ago
I agree, I am stupid and it's not about Iraq. But is this really bs? If they show Bush saying something and then state that he said it is that somehow a lie? If Olberman is lying, then what is he lying about? Tell us.
n8glenn 5 years ago
What rock have you been living under, makeinstall?
SeagirlX 5 years ago
when liberals argue against 'torture' what they're really arguing against is aggressive interogation of suspected terrorists. postulate another manner to illict intelligence from hardened belligerents and i'll consider it..
taodepaul311 5 years ago
Every single Bushiite here uses the term liberal. Define it fuckhead. What is Bush's ideology? What is yours. We understand you are a degenerate half wit and will probably refrain from responding. oh and I'd consider sodomy torture, but I know how you Foley Republicans feel about that so we can leave it at that.
killerkel555 5 years ago
Actually, taodepaul, I don't know anything about interrogation, but from what I understand, torture does not work. I don't know of any instances of our government getting useful info from torture. I also believe that it is morally unacceptable. Even if people are our enemies they are still human, don't you think it's possible to go too far? What if they are actually innocent and we don't know it?
n8glenn 5 years ago
Awesome!
spacespace 5 years ago
Keith Olbermann is one of the most important people in the USA at the moment - GO KEITH GO
punkie999 5 years ago
This should be required viewing by every American.
riverkee 5 years ago
Finally, good journalism.
Axl4Prez2004 5 years ago
its almost like the neocons wanted some kind of attack to take place...like a new 'pearl harbor...
joebonk 5 years ago
Project for a New American Century. Better yet check out the BBC documentary "Smoke and Mirrors". Brilliant film that won an Academy Award and chronicles the rise of neo-conservatism. Definitely wanted a new Pearl Harbor.
killerkel555 5 years ago
i know, i was kidding
joebonk 5 years ago
Is this guy's show still on regular TV or does it go straight to YouTube?
cyberscribe 5 years ago
He's on MSNBC
scotinus 5 years ago
This is absolutely mind-blowing
lonelygirlI5 5 years ago
Bush = Evil
realamino 5 years ago
This type of thing happens all the time... That is Bush, Condi, whoever says something and it is proven they weren't being truthful... It seems to not matter. The Neo-Con media folk like Rush and whoever back his play every time without question and call "The Liberals" the liars. blah
eurohim 5 years ago
into the limits of the democracy...
drchepa 5 years ago
What's with this stupid obsession the left has over how well terrorist are treated. I hope they torture those head chopping bastards. Torture them and kill them all I say. I don't care what the lilly livered libs say all they know how to do is lose wars. We shouldn't be rebuilding Iraq or any terrorist sponsors. We should flatten them and leave them graveyards so that they wont fuck with us again. Taking the "higher" moral ground wont do you a damn bit of good if you're dead. Fuck 'em.
sfvdude13 5 years ago
you need a BBBIIIGGGG brain....
drchepa 5 years ago
Bombing people only makes them want to kill you even more, dingleberry.
Your mindset is exactly why more of our troops have been killed that on 9/11, and why our borders are WIDE open. Instead of putting 150,000 troops on our borders, making sure "terrorists" can't come across, you would put them all in Iraq - so far your theory is proving wrong in every sense of the word.
WFCancer 5 years ago
Not if they are dead, dipshit. I don't see any Nazi's or Japs trying to kill us and we bombed the shit out of them.
I say put 50,000 troops on the border, build a wall, deport ANYONE here illegally, confiscate their property and sell it to reimburse the taxpayers and we will all be better off. After that we can start enforcing treason laws so that your heroes can pay for their crimes against Ameica, the country you love to hate, bitch.
sfvdude13 5 years ago
I'm in favour of the border wall and deporting the illegals (if at all possible anyway). However, what do you consider to be an act of treason? Oh and the reason the Japs and Germans stopped fighting was because they were the aggressors, knew it, had their countries bombed to nothing and millions dead AND most importantly had a choice between American or Soviet influence. Of course they chose to be our friends rather than the soviets, the choice now is not so clear I am sure.
killerkel555 5 years ago
I agree but you see the thing is that a couple hundred of them were released because they weren't really terrorists. How would you feel to have your limbs chopped if you weren't a terrorist? You can't kill based on speculation you fascist prick!
Coolsam2000 5 years ago
That would be assuming that they were convicted terrorists. A good deal of the detainee's haven't even been charged with a crime. Additionally, torture has this tendency to get the answers you want, even if the answers aren't true. In other words it's not reliable anyway.
tracermav 5 years ago
So, are you suggesting that the neo-cons are somehow effective in their wartime strategies?? Why don't you go do some research on the state of Iraq?
tracermav 5 years ago
All you neocon scum use the term liberal to define anyone against your views. Define liberalism please. What do you consider to be Bush's ideology. If you don't respond we will all understand that you are a biggot fool who has mush for brains. Oh and fuck off.
killerkel555 5 years ago
What's with this stupid obsession the moderates have over how well americans are treated. I hope they torture those baby bombing bastards. Torture them and kill them all I say. I don't care what the lilly livered pacifists say all they know how to do is lose wars. We shouldn't be selling them oil. We should flatten them and leave them graveyards so that they wont fuck with us again. Taking the "higher" moral ground wont do you a damn bit of good if you're dead. Fuck 'em. -- Osama
n8glenn 5 years ago
Out of curiousity, where did you get that quote? I'm not saying it's fake but some of the language and terminology isn't exactly in the manner that Bin Laden tends to use when addressing the media.
killerkel555 5 years ago
jrubin22 5 years ago
Very well defined jrubin22. From reading these remarks, it would seem that anti-Bushies are intelligent, well educated people and neo-cons are a bunch of dimwitted, foul-mouthed idiots who can't put a decent sentence together to save their lives! No wonder they all voted for Bush, they are just plain stupid!
babyboomer59 5 years ago
yes, but the people that like W are too stupid to notice or understand why those things are bad.
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groovy70s 5 years ago
Once again, Olbermann has all the facts and uses them to disembowel the Bush Administration. The fact is the Bushies did nothing before 9/11 and called off the military when OBL was pinned down in Tora Bora.
We less safe today than on 9/10/06, and it has nothing to do with a lack of presidential power. It has to do with a lack of presidential will and, perhaps even worse, the desire of Republicans to create a climate of fear to stay in power than safeguard America.
Bravo Keith Olbermann!
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olbermann just pwned condi and bush
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TheRideOfPaulRevere 5 years ago
Make them tell us the whole truth, don't put up with Bush's lies.
Msbehaving 5 years ago
SHAME!
Gillhoolee 5 years ago
Kcb1234 you must be smoking the wrong kind of dope. Condi Rice lied through her teeth when she denied that the Clinton administration had given the Bush administration a plan to deal with Osama and his followers. Perhaps you should re-read Richard Clark's book. I wouldn't believe Bush,Rice,Cheney or Rummy no matter what they said about Iraq and why we are there. Bush should be impeached.
Ralph73 5 years ago
How can the neo Kunts denay this? they are a joke now that we have torture as part of our constitution once we get power back we can declare all neokunts enemy combatants, put them in prision and torture them.
bajalocom 5 years ago
liberals would rather torture 'neokunts' than terrorists??? hmmm....lol
taodepaul311 5 years ago
Please define liberal. You goofs throw the word around so define it. Define Bush's ideology and what you think that is. I know but you idiots got no clue, just like throwing it around.
killerkel555 5 years ago
This is absolutely false and Mr Olberman knows it. Richard Clark himself says there was no terrorist policy drafted by the Clinton administartion. Mr. Olberman will go the way of Dan Rather because his obsessive hatred for Mr. Bush will lure him into one day fabricating negative news jus as Mr. Rather did. 30 years ago they would have gotten away with it, but those days are gone.
kcb1234 5 years ago
I think this is splitting hairs. Clarke said there were problems with Clinton's terror policy but at least attempts were being made. Several plots were foiled in 1999 because of an alert system in place. Regardless of what Clinton did or didn't do though, it doesn't change the fact that the Bush admin ignored numerous pieces of evidence outlining the threat as demonstrated here by Olberman. I think it's time for the Bush defenders to admit that.
jerkylfish 5 years ago
Absolutely true. The Bush administration comprehensively ignored terrorism before 911. Shameful liars and incompetent cowards cannot persevere, not in America, sorry dude...
puddlestorm 5 years ago
What are you talking about? You can find the documents online: (replace all the * with . for the link to work)
Memo to Rice:
www*gwu*edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB147/clarke%20memo*pdf
And the document penned by Clarke, which you claim doesn't exist is title "Strategy for Eliminating the Threat from the Jihadist Networks of Al Qida: Status and Prospects"
www*gwu*edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB147/clarke%20attachment*pdf
So, what were you saying again about lies?
luckycleareyes 5 years ago
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It was top rated, discussed, viewed and favorited tonight but for some MYSTERIOUS reason it is no where to be found on the top rated pages. FOUL PLAY
Atitoinnyc 5 years ago
"In a sense we are all detainees"...wow, how Murrow-esque of you. More like Burro-esque... big ass, no point. But KO is a hit on u2b, just like lonelygirl. Call him Netherguy, as that's where he keeps his head. (Look it up.)
octopibingo 5 years ago
haha it even said that the administration GAVE it to them what a liar
bastp62 5 years ago
that's WTC 7. Our executive branch has been hijacked by PNAC. That's why Wofie/Rummy & gang focused on Iraq.
getatmedude 5 years ago
The thing about 9/11 is, if you ask yourself who logically has the technical know-how and resource to pull off the attack all fingers point back at us. Who benefitted from 9/11? How/Why did WTC collapse?
getatmedude 5 years ago
kathleeninthegreen you must be crazy you should be scared that you have a president that does things by conviction. You have put your faith in one mans hands thats a very sad mind state. I thought a democracy is when the majority's opinions are taken into account and a dictatorship is when a country is run by one mans convictions?
grimez11 5 years ago
Hey, when he won with 51% of the vote in 2004, Bush said it was a mandate from the people and he could do whatever he felt like. (I voted for Kerry)
bradlech 5 years ago
America is a representative REPUBLIC not a democracy. Besides the republicans have only a slim majority in our federal government not like facist California legislature with its one party rule. This country was never intended to be ruled by the whims of the ignorant masses (libs). We elect people to represent us and if we don't like what they do we vote them out. I am sure Bush had better grades than you (better than Ho-Chi-Min-Kerry at least)who obviously didn't pay attention in history class.
sfvdude13 5 years ago
here, here. I voted for Senator Kerry as well and am glad he lost. He has proved to be a cut & run advocate on Iraq. That's not to say that our President hasn't prosecuted the war incompetently (he has) but at least he's sticking to it.
taodepaul311 5 years ago
Define liberal. It is a word that is thrown around by idiots who have no idea what it means. What do you think Bush is, and what is the definition of his ideology? I know, but I doubt you have any clue.
killerkel555 5 years ago
A liberal is a half-a-commie-gay-loving-god-hating-free-to-be-me-go-hug-a-tree-hate-America type who believes that if it moves tax it, if it keeps moving regulate it, and if it stops moving subsidize it. Everything else they believe in isn't much better.
sfvdude13 5 years ago
Clearly you are a moron with no conception of liberalism or any other ideology for that matter. Economic liberalism is actually virtually synonomous with free market capitalism idiot. Politically it is idealistic believing that democracy and freedom, grounded in American values, should define American foreign policy and should be spread around the globe. That is the true definition allbeit simplified. I am no liberal, I am a realist. But according to the definition, Bush is quite liberal.
killerkel555 5 years ago
Was I talking about "economic liberalism" moron? I know all about ideologies. I know what a socialist, a communist, and a facist are, I just choose to describe them by the American name for what their hatred for America has mutated into = LIBERALS.
sfvdude13 5 years ago
Your an idiot. Economic liberalism and political liberalism are of the same ideology moron. I just broke them up to describe the two facets. modern liberalism is a broad spectrum of ideologies, commercial Lib., Republican Lib., sociological Lib., Lib. Institutionalism: all forms of modern liberalism that differ greatly. Clearly your an idiot who formulates opinions based not in facts but ridiculous assumptions generated by a juvenile, uneducated mind.
killerkel555 5 years ago
A socialist, communist, and a fascist! No, really. Do you want a cookie. Sounds like those are the only ideologies you know of, and I doubt you even know what they really entail. Communism maybe cause of the airtime its gotten. But even among these basic ideological extremes which you seem to think define the term ideology, I still doubt you know what fascism even is.
killerkel555 5 years ago
You're right, America is not a democracy, and why should it be? People don't want democracy, they want strong leaders who do what they want regardless of what the people want or need. I say, give the people what they want, let's just drop the pretense and end all these useless arguments and elections and appoint bush for life (seriously).
n8glenn 5 years ago
You, my friend, are an idiot.
sfvdude13 5 years ago
So what is your ideology and what is Bush's jackass? Seeing how you seem to think you have a brain you should be able to answer this, but then again I suspect you are merely another of the worthless Bushiite scumbags who have their information regurgitated to them by fox news in the form of mush that resembles your brain.
killerkel555 5 years ago
Let me tll you something, I dont give a damn about Bush! He's so much more a liberal than Clinton in a lot of ways. I voted for him mainly to keep that half a commie traitor out of office. If Bush started kicking ass in Iraq his poll numbers would go up and only you America haters would be mad. You want to see a dictator? Vote for Al Gore.
sfvdude13 5 years ago
Hmm, that statement pretty well flew in the face of your entire commentary up until now, (which has been in defense of Bush). I think Gore would of been of the best presidents in recent memory, far better than Clinton. He would have tackled issues that matter, like energy policy, environmental law, healthcare, the economy. Dictator? What do you think Bush is doing? He's spending all our money and giving us nothing in return.
killerkel555 5 years ago
Thank you, I'm glad we could be friends, after all, I really do agree with you
n8glenn 5 years ago
Speak for yourself, not all Americans. I don't want anyone ruling this country as a dictator, much less a bumbling incompetent moron like Bush.
killerkel555 5 years ago
Don't lie, you didn't vote for Kerry. What a jackass. At least be what you are, we all see through it anyway. Kerry was a poor excuse for a candidate but compared to Bush he was a sight for sore eyes, even with that Frankenstein like mug.
killerkel555 5 years ago
I am thankful that we have a President who governs by conviction and not poll numbers.
Truly thankful as all americans should be....
kathleeninthegreen 5 years ago
You mean governs by conviction, and not by FACTS. Yeah, that's some President you got there.
ruliarch 5 years ago
Hey, if he wants to run the white house by christianity, so he can justify attacking the islamic world.... wait. Yeah, you're right.
bradlech 5 years ago
If Bush expressed an intellect comparable to most of your presidents then conviction alone Might be acceptable. For you to simply roll over on everything W says and does because he has conviction is ridiculous. You dont know the mind of a man by his words alone. That means you would be perfectly happy with a president who was simply a good actor that was able to express conviction well. Absurd!
wolfduke 5 years ago
If all you ever do is say the opposite of Bush you are just as likely to be wrong as him. Besides just because his words aren't as slick as that Arkansas hillbilly rapist are doesn't matter. Actions speak louder than words and there are a lot of dead terrorist because of Bush which is more than you can say about that hillbilly rapist.
sfvdude13 5 years ago
No, Bush has been wrong on virtually everything. Name five things (important things) which Bush has been right on, if you can I'll name 50 he's been wrong on. By the way last I checked consensual sex between adults is not considered rape. Just a thought. And Clinton mad something of himself, he didn't come from money. Bush was handed everything he ever did, including the election (both times).
killerkel555 5 years ago
#1.6.6 Millions jobs created in the USA since 2004. #2. ederal budget defecit 50% lower than projected for fiscal year 2006.
#3.Unemployment at 4.7, (much lower than 1990's average.)
#4. Tax cuts. Don't let the facts get in the way of your 50 juvenile opinions. And ,by the way, lying under oath, in a court of law, in a sexual harrassment case, in which you are the defendent is called perjury and that is what the hillbilly rapist did to get impeached and disbarred.
sfvdude13 5 years ago
Thats only 4, really 3 but I'll refute them anyway. First #1 & #3 are the same thing, duh. And why don't you look into the wages of those jobs, which have dropped consistently throughout Bushes terms #2. Actually its 22% lower and thats still $250 billion higher than Clinton. #4 Tax cuts have been almost entirely favourable to the wealthy (yeah I know the trickle down effect and all that BS.)
killerkel555 5 years ago
#2 Deficit for August '06: $ 70 billion, an all time high surpassing July's previous record. So much for that big deficit cut. Looks like its similar to initial projections, and of course thesefigures are all relative to China's massive surpluses. Economics, I know tough to understand for juvenile minds like yours.
killerkel555 5 years ago
Thank who? Thank the Devil? Thank the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse??
789mark 5 years ago
Yeah unfortunately, punk, that hillbilly rapist you love wasn't fighting wars in two countries. Unless you count Bosnia which YOU KNOW was threatening our national security. Air-bombing Sarajevo over a genecide that didn't happen. Clinton Lied Bosnians Died. Illegal aliens and corrupt unions drive down wages. Economically, don't give Clinton credit for what Newt made happen. The top 10% of the richest pay 70% of taxes, Bottom 50%, less than 4%. Poor people don't give you jobs.
sfvdude13 5 years ago
WTF are you rambling on about? The middle class shoulders the largest tax burden idiot. Yugoslavia did amount to ethnic cleansing and we perhaps stopped the genocide. Iraq was no threat, even Collin Powell recently stated that all the fcts used were exaggerations and "deliberately" misleading, ie. Iraq was a war of choice, not necessity. Republicans are in power and are doing nothing about illegals. Newt was in for a good part of Bush's term but I guess even he can't work miracles.
killerkel555 5 years ago
it must be nice to not care what other people think when you're the leader of the most powerful DEMOCRATIC nation in the world
andybobolson 5 years ago
What is the date of this?
789mark 5 years ago
I believe it aired Tuesday, Sept. 26th.
ruliarch 5 years ago
thanks. I thought KO's "Chris Wallace/George Orwell" segment was a great one, too.
789mark 5 years ago
Too bad Olbermann doesn't have the balls to question this: did the bush allow pre-knowledge of 9/11 but let it happen?
shortfu 5 years ago
What are you talking about? "Did the bush allow pre-knowledge of 9/11 but let it happen?" I'm just trying to understand what your question actually is. Are you trying to ask, "Did Bush have pre-knowledge of the 9/11 attacks, but still did nothing to prevent it?" The question was brought up by another reporter the other day on C-SPAN, she asked Bush "if it was true, that the Clinton admin. gave him details on a possible terrorist attack in america?" Bush danced away from that question.
bradlech 5 years ago
I think he's is wondering whether it was not all deliberately overlooked and bungled because if fit so nicely into the neo-conservative vision for the world as drawn up in the Project for a New American Century, which needed an attack to gain public support for its military campaigns. I think KO doesn't ask because being the only real journalist he walks a fine line in corporate media.
killerkel555 5 years ago
I like when they actually show official comments to back up the story as is done here. Excellant!
But the Republicans have outsmarted the Democrates again at election time. Starting with ABC's movie the whole topic of conversaton has shifted toward defending Clinton work of six to ten years ago when they should be talking about what each member of congress has or has not accomplished the past two few years.
RedNickOK 5 years ago
I like Olberman, he is one of the few who impale this admin.
vanman8u 5 years ago
Wow. This is real investigative journalism on tv. I didn't think that was possible in America. I thought the real story was CLINTON GOT ANGRY!
dibbya 5 years ago
because the media wants you to think that and that there was nothing more to it... mass media blackout!!
ironllama 5 years ago
o' so true
musidavid 5 years ago
it's funny that dick cheney has profitted the most from all this and remains the most invulnerable man in the administration. he shot a man!!! and it got less coverage than AN AUSTRALIAN named STEVE IRWIN.
it's also funny that the people who are defending the bush administration find external sources to redicule (president clinton.) while the people who attack the administration need only the words and actions of the administration itself.
just saying.
lockdownyouraerial 5 years ago
He accidently shot HIS own friend, dipshit! Its not like some inner city crack dealer shooting a rival. Its also not like he gave nuclear technology to the North Koreans or let Osama go, AFTER he was captured in Sudan. That was your hillbilly rapists doing. Isn't it funny how, for liberals, history started 10 minutes ago. You know, it is one thing for people to think you are an idiot than for you to open your mouth and prove it.
sfvdude13 5 years ago
Keith talks a lot of sense but it's time to drop the Edward R Murrow voice. Ever since 'Good Night and Good Luck' reminded us of how Murrow spoke, it's been a little weird.
thaines 5 years ago