Douglas MacArthur - Address to Congress (1951) Part 4 of 4

[toddyhawk]

spokeperson for the nwo?

[guroki]

this is great

[Nationsnotregimes]

The general personally risked all with the Inchon Landing to save US from defeat or be swept in the sea.

To do this he kept it secret from the ratz in D.C.

Believe it.

[jamieg1tube]

Absolutely stirring. If only we had listened.... there would be no North Korean tyranny today. If only........

[rhall4th]

MACARTHUR = THE MAN!!!

[yuhon09]

MacArthur VS Truman

who's on the right side of history?

[Unilateralism]

@yuhon09 Depends on your perspective. If you believe NATO was the greater good, then MacArthur was. If you believe the Warsaw Pact was, then you believe Truman was.

MacArthur's decision to extend the Korean War into the Sino-American War would have undoubtedly resulted in millions of deaths, and American control over Eastern China, Japan, and the Korean peninsula, with Mongolia and Manchuria creating a buffer state between US and USSR.

[Unilateralism]

@yuhon09 Such a result would lead to a Western world fully capable of outperforming the Eastern Bloc in its only major advantage: people. Having China, Japan, and Korea under American control would mean an extra half a billion people working for the Western World, likely leading to an earlier dissolution of the Soviet Union.

Truman's decision on the other hand, saved millions of lives, which were then likely taken by Kim Jong's 'Great Leap Forward' (30 million killed).

So, it's all in P.O.V.

[Unilateralism]

@Unilateralism Correction: Kim Jong should have been Mao Zedong.

P.O.V. = point of view.

[Nationsnotregimes]

@yuhon09

MacArthur on the right side of history, clearly.

[Unilateralism]

Ah... events like the recent North Korean bombing of South Korea simply reinforce the statement that MacArthur was right. We should have removed that dangerous threat to the United States and its allies long ago, before whether or not we removed them it would cost us dearly.

[Unilateralism]

@Nationsnotregimes No. 57% of our leaders would have agreed to impeach President Truman, but that isn't enough to usurp the President and his Vice-President. If MacArthur had arrested Truman, then his VP would have been equally as bad as he was, if not more so, because his VP was even less pro-military then he was. MacArthur needed a successful campaign (which he didn't want) or a super-majority in Congress (which he didn't have).

[Nationsnotregimes]

90% of our leaders then would have backed the General 100% arresting Truman and his FDR Cabal.

Folks reading these posts can figure who the game players are for themselves.

[Nationsnotregimes]

My grammar may be wanting, but my statements stand alone and are clear.

Smoke and Mirrors since the Japanese surrendered on the deck of the Mighty MO to the U.N.

Douglas MacArthur also went up against the media masters IMO and did better than Patton.

Douglas MacArthur should have arrrested Truman, and 90% our military and politicians of the that time IMO would have gone along.

R.I.P. General

MacArthur's words are clear in this recording, and there are no word games played.

[Unilateralism]

@Nationsnotregimes I never corrected your admittedly poor grammar.

And the Japanese surrendered to the United States and the Soviet Union in 1945. The UN was not formed until 1948.

And he did, which is why he would have been a better President, but the media masters back then were more hateful towards Truman then they were towards MacArthur.

No. He shouldn't have. Truman, maybe, but not the military, HIS military. Why would he arrest his own men?

And I agree that MacArthur was a great man.

[Nationsnotregimes]

Correction, I meant Douglas MacArthur was to resign in early 1950, not 52, London, Stalin, and NYC had a different idea, and that was the Korean War.

MacArthur would not resign in the face of Chinese/Stalin assault.

If it had not been for MacArthur, US force's would have been pushed in the to sea.

Read "The Eleventh Hour" Lewis W. Walt. 1979.

[Unilateralism]

@Nationsnotregimes Lol!!! Why would the British NOT want a strong, pro-military American President, when their largest concern was a Soviet Army trying to gather a large enough force to make a drive west? And NYC has and had little to no influence on the grand scale of federal elections. Truman's administration definitely didn't want it to happen, but NYC had no say either way. Also, MacArthur VOLUNTEERED to lead UN forces, and wasn't ordered to.

[Unilateralism]

@Nationsnotregimes Also, whether he resigned in 1950, or was fired. Either way, he had a gross advantage over Truman politically, and could have easily beaten him in an election, or perhaps simply teamed up with Eisenhower to form a veritable political juggernaut. In fact, his dismissal hurt Truman's approval ratings badly, perhaps making it the more advantageous situation for MacArthur.

[Nationsnotregimes]

The show he did Try for the Nomination, but was not only to late, but the fixers, and media turned their back on him.

Joe McCarthyy was a country boy who had No Idea what he was up against, for if had known and truly acted, we would have a free republic today IMO.

[Nationsnotregimes]

See General Shelton's new book.

Maybe the enemy alien trolls can try to defame him or get his book banned by their bretheren forces in the Neo NKVD forces.

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book that former president Bill Clinton's White House lost the codes needed to launch nuclear missiles. Retired general Hugh Shelton writes in his just published memoir, Without Hesitation: The Odyssey of an American Warrior, that the card containing the...

[rigoberto565]

general Macarthur told truman to nuke every major russian and, chinese city, that way freedom in the world would be possible , truman told him he was insane, thats why he fired him.

[Unilateralism]

@rigoberto565 Lol. No. Hell no. MacArthur's plan called for the nuclear destruction of a few key North Korean and Chinese military installations. He NEVER suggested attack the Soviet Union. and Truman did not tell him he was insane, Truman simply refused to respond in either the affirmative or the negative to his request. So, MacArthur requested the joint Chiefs of Staff grant him thew ability to use Nuclear weapons, and both they and Congress were ready to, until Truman stopped them.

[slazzer145]

@rigoberto565 true ,,truman said that gen mcarthur is creating a world war 3 ..in those days communist are weak...if they bomb china there will no cmmunist in china and korea will be one country..and also gen patton like to attack russia after the german defeat...but he was murdered gen patton did not die on road accident it was a conspiracy...

[slazzer145]

macarthur should ran for president in 1948 agianst truman..

[Unilateralism]

@slazzer145 He should have, but he did not. MacArthur should have just arrested the man when he had the chance, and let either himself or Taft into the office.

[dakjjim]

MacArther was a man worthy of emulation. I admire his courage, honor, and strong moral sense of duty. Too bad for Korea and Taiwan that Truman was deficient in those characteristics.

[uscdave1124]

he honestly brought a tear to my eye at 1:45 what an amazing speaker

[caliaviator07]

When MacArthur said that he was closing his 52 years of military service in his speech, the audience clapped, but I felt an overwhelming sense of disappointment in both the audience's grasp of the situation, and the President's short sighted decision. MacArthur wanted to kill the wolf that was terrorizing the world while it was still a pup. Now that same wolf is growing, and with it it's means to wage war. We will regret this decision in the future, that I can promise.

[tagamayupay]

i am a filipino and i am honestly proud of him (General Douglas McArthur) i am thanking him and all of his men who fought gallantly during the WW2 in the pacific. thank you very much for given us back our democracy. i salute all those filipino and american soldier and to our allies who fought to defend my country the philippines during the dark hour of our hisotry.

i hope one of there descendant might read this and pass this to others and also the WW2 veterans.

THANK YOU

[mrgoodvibrations]

This section of the speech is so profoundly adept for the mess were in today in Iraq and Afganistan, he was truly one of our greatest Generals.

[Unilateralism]

@mrgoodvibrations Ah... the sad thing is: even if you let MacArthur use the equipment and men he had in Korea, he would have done a better, quicker, and more effective job of it then Congress allowed McChrystal to do. He would have cleared the entire region in a few years, and then spent all the time he saved forming a strong, western state of it all.

[mrgoodvibrations]

@Unilateralism I wholly agree with you, sad we do not have the convictions to do the right thing for our safety and the safety others as well. It has just become a exercise of greed and industrial warmachine profiteers now more than ever.

[Unilateralism]

@mrgoodvibrations Lol. Unfortunately there is no industrial war machine anymore. If there was, or even had been during Korea, MacArthur would have had the support necessary to push the front North. But after World War II, the war machine was broken. Truman turned bomb factories back into oatmeal factories, tank assembly lines were made to build cars. We dropped the industry, and as a result, destroyed the capability.

[Unilateralism]

@mrgoodvibrations If the industrial war machine was still present in the United States, Korea would have been nothing but tanks rolling through Pyongyang. Vietnam would have ended with the burning of Tienanmen square. China would still be a footnote in our military's shadow, and even the great Soviet military would have been outgunned, outnumbered, and out-maneuvered by the mid 70's.

[misyespitelk]

If Truman had just listened to MacArthur, there would be no North Korea today.

[bigjoetube]

One of the most outstanding men in world history. He knew how to  wage war and secure a piece.

[rickjones53]

Regarding Soulhunter's question: I am not sure how badly MacArthur wanted to be President of the United States. By 1952 he was quite up there in years and no doubt would have accepted a presidential nomination if it would have been given him. There is no evidence to suggest that he had a desire to go after the presidency in the modern sense of the word. Besides being a warrior it is not clear what his politics were.

[rickjones53]

Utterly magnificent in every regard. You can listen to a General MacArthur speech and enjoy it at several levels.

There is the content, the diction and choice of vocabulary and hybrid American and English accent.

Mac Arthur the stage actor is unbelievable. His ability to pluck the desired emotions was a high art.

One can see why MacArthur could get on with an FDR no matter what differences they might have but could never see eye to eye with a man like Harry Truman.

Enjoy the spectacle.

[soulhunter59]

Didn't MacArthur want to be president real bad but Truman sort of took away any chance he had?

[bsgs98]

MacArthur was a Republican delegate in 1952 with very little support. In the end, he endorsed Taft and opposed Eisenhower who was nominated. MacArthur was 72 years old at the time and if he had been elected he would have been the oldest ever to be elected.

[Nationsnotregimes]

IMO the 25 month Korean Hot War was launched to keep the General from resigning as planned in early 1950 to capture the capital and clean out tweny years of Bolshevik infestation.

54,000 plus of our men were murdered in a UN police action, and that does not count Canadian's, N.Z. AU, and England, and back then that meant White boys dieing.

Occum's Razor.

The Eleveth Hour, by General Lewis W. Walt 1979, USMC read that and find out why there was only 40,000 copies.

[Unilateralism]

@Nationsnotregimes The Bolsheviks weren't in Korea until after the 2nd Russo-Japanese war. The Japanese spent the latter half of the 30's and the early 40's wiping out Bolshevik descent until the Soviets seized Manchuria and the Northern half of the peninsula.

And there were over half a dozen all black, and many integrated regiments serving in Korea, thank you very much.

Also, It's Occam's Razor, and that just means 'what's simplest is often best/most correct'.

[Nationsnotregimes]

@bsgs98

The press saw to it that MacArthur would get no critical support.

The Whole Korean Hot War was to keep him from resigning in early 1950 and winning in 1952 IMO.

IMO he would have cleaned out twenty years of infested enemy aliens in the regime if he could have won.

[Nationsnotregimes]

@Nationsnotregimes

Savage Sneaky enemy aliens can not be Name openly here.

When Mikail Gorbachov open the USSR archive's the filthy treason ratz were exposed.

Read

The Eleveth Hour, by General Lewis M Walt. 1979. USMC 1936-1979.

Gentleman not slick enough sophist NKVD trolls on the payroll to kick dust in your eyes, use your minds.

MacArthur absolutely was resigning the Army in early 1952 to prepare for the election of 1952. IMO the enemy aliens got the K war to stop MAC!

[Unilateralism]

@Nationsnotregimes Lol, that's great, except MacArthur was fired in 1951! If he had wanted to run in 1952, he wouldn't have had any issues! He had a higher approval rating then Eisenhower, and made Truman look like a leper. MacArthur did not want to run for office. He made the decision to end his career with grace and distinction, and had no desire to run the country, though he would have undoubtedly done a fantastic job.

[SatchmoSings]

@rickjones53 While my opinion of MacArthur is rather mixed and complex, Truman did the right thing in firing him.

Still, your analyses of MacArthur's speech is incredibly "right-on."

[letsgo1lasers]

Scuttle = to leave open? scramble? undone? In Naval terms = a small hatch in a ship's deck or side.

[MarkEdwardBlacksmith]

When a ship is scuttled, it is sunk by its own crew.

Therefore: to scuttle = to give up.

[letsgo1lasers]

This speech was "Addressed" to Congress on April 19th.

Why try to answer a question that my superior has an answer for?

[letsgo1lasers]

Now please keep in mind that President Dwight D. Eisenhower held the title of 1st allied Supreme Commander ( April 2, 1951-May 30, 1952).

Hitler and Hirohito? You should have listened to this man. Imagine what happens at the end.

[hitide286]

Not entirely correct: General Eisenhower Supreme Allied Commander -European Theater, Just before the D-day invasion.

Even though Churchill did push for Montgomery, thank God he did not get...Churchill's ad-visors did tell him not to push too hard for Monty, as it was Roosevelt's men, equipment, & money!!! Gen. Douglas MacArthur, was named Supreme Allied Commander- Pacific Theater...