>>>> WARNING: Don't waste your time debating with "RetSquid." He's either a paid dis-info agent of the IRS and/or the Federal Reserve, or he's simply a jack-off cheerleader for slavery incorporated.
Scroll through the old comments from this video and others like it, and you'll see he's been trolling them for up to 4 YEARS, spouting the same old arguments again and again. He only trolls videos of this type as well. Strange, don't you think?
The I.R.S. demands that you provide them w/the evidence w/which to secure your conviction in tax "court." (Tax courts are territorial & thus can't be operated w/i the states.) Accordingly, using I.R.S. "logic," a car thief is guilty of stealing the car & guilty of not reporting the theft. This legal fiction denies a citizen his right against self-incrimination. The burden of proof lies with the plaintiff (the I.R.S.) to prove the defendant guilty. It used to be: INNOCENT till proven guilty.
@7beers The guy beside Mr. Schiff is also a tax protestor. He is featured extensively in the same documentary that Irwin was in, "America: Freedom to Fascism".
He's not in jail for publishing the book, he's in jail for not paying taxes on proceeds derived from the sale of the book. There is a difference between the two.
The U.S Supreme Court has ruled that the taxing limitation in Art.1, sec.2, clause 3; and Art. 1, Sec. 9 Clause 4 of the constitution prohibiting the Fed. Gov. from imposing ANY tax directly ON the people, are still in effect. And that the 16th Amend. did NOT nullify those limitations nor authorize any direct tax ON the people.
And where is Irwin Schiff today? Serving a 12 year prison sentence in a federal prison in Arizona at the age of 82. Way to go, Irwin! The guy is an idiot. His whole premise that there is no Constitutional right for the government to tax incomes is bogus. United States Constitution, Article 1, Section 8 grants Congress the power to impose taxes. It does not restrict this imposition and does not prohibit Congress from taxing personal incomes.
The Internal Revenue Code of 1954 was passed by both houses of Congress as House Resolution 8300, and was signed by President Eisenhower on August 16, 1954, at about 9:45 a.m., becoming Public Law 83-591, 68A Stat. 3. The Internal Revenue Code is now known as the “Internal Revenue Code of 1986” as a result of changes made by Public Law 99-514, 100 Stat. 2085 (10/22/1986).
One thing that nobody seems to think about is the very real fact that government does serve a purpose in our lives and that it cannot exist without revenue. Yes, our gov't is wasteful and often inefficient, but if it suddenly disappeared our society would degenerate into chaos very quickly. All gov'ts claim a right of taxation and cannot survive without it, with the exception of certain oil-rich countries in the Middle East that don't need to collect taxes---at least not yet.
I love Irwin Schiff. He's a true freedom fighter. We need a million more just like him. The working people of this nation prop-up a bunch of parasites and bums in Washington D.C., living the life of hi-rollers at the working man's expense.
The IRS establishes power over you by the use of common law notices and applying liens onto your corporate Trust.
Check out the names Bill Thornton (1215 org) and Adam Adask who explains how they lawfully get power over you.
Still, they can be stopped though by using your own lawful notice, not using your corporate Trust (not being held as the Trustee with fiduciary duty) and by counterclaiming to challenge jurisdiction.
Irwin Schiff is an American hero, he's probably not going to be around much longer due to his old age, but he will always live in the hearts of freedom loving tyranny hating American's like me
On January 21st, 2004 Schiff filed a brief in the District Court of Nevada Civil Case CV-S-01-0895-PMP (LRL) claiming "Insanity" in his defense for failing to pay his Federal Income Taxes! He contends he suffers from a mental disease or defect and exhibits symptoms of chronic severe delusional personality disorder!
That is exactly what I said. He believed it to be unconstitutionally and ethically enforced and as a last ditch effort decided to fake insanity to reduce his sentence. So what? He believes the law is wrong, and is unconstitutional, he gets caught and doesn't want to be thrown in prison despite how the law reads it. Big deal.
Well if this type of taxation is illegitimate and in his idea illegal, then trying to get out of imprisonment for some bogus law by lying may be legitimate. It's kind of like saying is it wrong to lie to a thief about where you have hidden your gold when he breaks in your house. Is it so bad to lie to the thief? Of course you either have to assume that all taxation is theft or illegitimate forms of taxation are theft. But think about it that way for a moment.
Tax protestor and promoter Daniel Benham of Twin Lakes, Michigan, was convicted of tax evasion for failing to file tax returns from 2000 to 2003. Benham gave seminars on how to use bankruptcy and various legal entities to avoid paying taxes. Now he can give seminars on how to survive federal prison camp
I have read the Federal Mafia 2003 Edition. It is a great book. Hey anybody listening i think irwin schiff's web site is banned. check it out at w w w (dot) paynoincometax (dot) com
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>>>> WARNING: Don't waste your time debating with "RetSquid." He's either a paid dis-info agent of the IRS and/or the Federal Reserve, or he's simply a jack-off cheerleader for slavery incorporated.
Scroll through the old comments from this video and others like it, and you'll see he's been trolling them for up to 4 YEARS, spouting the same old arguments again and again. He only trolls videos of this type as well. Strange, don't you think?
BRYAN351 2 months ago
Irwin A Schiff
08537-014
FCI TERRE HAUTE
FEDERAL CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTION
P.O. BOX 33
TERRE HAUTE, IN 47808
anothervanmeter 4 months ago
The I.R.S. demands that you provide them w/the evidence w/which to secure your conviction in tax "court." (Tax courts are territorial & thus can't be operated w/i the states.) Accordingly, using I.R.S. "logic," a car thief is guilty of stealing the car & guilty of not reporting the theft. This legal fiction denies a citizen his right against self-incrimination. The burden of proof lies with the plaintiff (the I.R.S.) to prove the defendant guilty. It used to be: INNOCENT till proven guilty.
procommenter 1 year ago
I wonder who the guy beside Irwin is. He clearly loathes him -- conspicuously refusing to acknowledge his presence in the slightest way.
7beers 1 year ago
@7beers The guy beside Mr. Schiff is also a tax protestor. He is featured extensively in the same documentary that Irwin was in, "America: Freedom to Fascism".
maidenak 8 months ago
He's not in jail for publishing the book, he's in jail for not paying taxes on proceeds derived from the sale of the book. There is a difference between the two.
OPHIOHANNAH 1 year ago
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asicit2b 1 year ago
The U.S Supreme Court has ruled that the taxing limitation in Art.1, sec.2, clause 3; and Art. 1, Sec. 9 Clause 4 of the constitution prohibiting the Fed. Gov. from imposing ANY tax directly ON the people, are still in effect. And that the 16th Amend. did NOT nullify those limitations nor authorize any direct tax ON the people.
asicit2b 1 year ago
And where is Irwin Schiff today? Serving a 12 year prison sentence in a federal prison in Arizona at the age of 82. Way to go, Irwin! The guy is an idiot. His whole premise that there is no Constitutional right for the government to tax incomes is bogus. United States Constitution, Article 1, Section 8 grants Congress the power to impose taxes. It does not restrict this imposition and does not prohibit Congress from taxing personal incomes.
JackKangaroo1 1 year ago
@JackKangaroo1 If so show me the LAW that congress passed? Pretty simple request.
desesrtdude 1 year ago
The Internal Revenue Code of 1954 was passed by both houses of Congress as House Resolution 8300, and was signed by President Eisenhower on August 16, 1954, at about 9:45 a.m., becoming Public Law 83-591, 68A Stat. 3. The Internal Revenue Code is now known as the “Internal Revenue Code of 1986” as a result of changes made by Public Law 99-514, 100 Stat. 2085 (10/22/1986).
RetSquid 1 year ago
One thing that nobody seems to think about is the very real fact that government does serve a purpose in our lives and that it cannot exist without revenue. Yes, our gov't is wasteful and often inefficient, but if it suddenly disappeared our society would degenerate into chaos very quickly. All gov'ts claim a right of taxation and cannot survive without it, with the exception of certain oil-rich countries in the Middle East that don't need to collect taxes---at least not yet.
JackKangaroo1 1 year ago
Stop bad-mouthing the IRS. They've never bothered me.
highestking2010 1 year ago
They bother me.
Dont tell me what to do.
Your funding of government is wrecking the land.
ewkeane 1 year ago
I love Irwin Schiff. He's a true freedom fighter. We need a million more just like him. The working people of this nation prop-up a bunch of parasites and bums in Washington D.C., living the life of hi-rollers at the working man's expense.
Go Irwin Schiff
BigRedMcCool 2 years ago 9
The IRS establishes power over you by the use of common law notices and applying liens onto your corporate Trust.
Check out the names Bill Thornton (1215 org) and Adam Adask who explains how they lawfully get power over you.
Still, they can be stopped though by using your own lawful notice, not using your corporate Trust (not being held as the Trustee with fiduciary duty) and by counterclaiming to challenge jurisdiction.
kuriokazuki 2 years ago
Irwin Schiff is an American hero, he's probably not going to be around much longer due to his old age, but he will always live in the hearts of freedom loving tyranny hating American's like me
mattgeb84 2 years ago
On January 21st, 2004 Schiff filed a brief in the District Court of Nevada Civil Case CV-S-01-0895-PMP (LRL) claiming "Insanity" in his defense for failing to pay his Federal Income Taxes! He contends he suffers from a mental disease or defect and exhibits symptoms of chronic severe delusional personality disorder!
RetSquid 2 years ago
Once again, he was probably bullshitting to get out of serving his 12 year sentence.
eesloan4 2 years ago
NO, he was BS-ing to get out of paying his taxes and got caught.
RetSquid 2 years ago
That is exactly what I said. He believed it to be unconstitutionally and ethically enforced and as a last ditch effort decided to fake insanity to reduce his sentence. So what? He believes the law is wrong, and is unconstitutional, he gets caught and doesn't want to be thrown in prison despite how the law reads it. Big deal.
eesloan4 2 years ago
So, he's a liar and a thief? Or just an insane thief?
RetSquid 2 years ago
Well if this type of taxation is illegitimate and in his idea illegal, then trying to get out of imprisonment for some bogus law by lying may be legitimate. It's kind of like saying is it wrong to lie to a thief about where you have hidden your gold when he breaks in your house. Is it so bad to lie to the thief? Of course you either have to assume that all taxation is theft or illegitimate forms of taxation are theft. But think about it that way for a moment.
eesloan4 2 years ago 2
"Of course you either have to assume that all taxation is theft or illegitimate forms of taxation are theft"
Exactly, that's where he was wrong.
RetSquid 2 years ago
No better or worse than the men who claim we owe a debt that is collected by the IRS
ewkeane 1 year ago
@ewkeane
How about you post a complete thought?
RetSquid 1 year ago
Probably on advice from his federaly approved attourney.
ewkeane 1 year ago
Thursday, February 5, 2009
Tax Protestor Daniel Benham Convicted
Tax protestor and promoter Daniel Benham of Twin Lakes, Michigan, was convicted of tax evasion for failing to file tax returns from 2000 to 2003. Benham gave seminars on how to use bankruptcy and various legal entities to avoid paying taxes. Now he can give seminars on how to survive federal prison camp
BEDESQUIRE 3 years ago
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Google and read....
A Letter to Armen Condo.
Armen Condo ran the largest tax protest group in American history. 30,000 members at its peak.
hardwaterwalleye 3 years ago
Fighting fiction with fiction was the flavor of the month.
Its better just to not bother with the whole thing.
Caution; being tax free may mean poverty to some. But then again, freedom is not free.
ewkeane 1 year ago
I have read the Federal Mafia 2003 Edition. It is a great book. Hey anybody listening i think irwin schiff's web site is banned. check it out at w w w (dot) paynoincometax (dot) com
zackmcnell 3 years ago