A glorious rendition, simply the best. Perfect diction, pitch, tempo, coloraturas beyond perfection, silvery voice, pure timbre. A delight, greatest rendition of this magnificent piece. For sure.
Her diction is really clear which is a plus. Handel singing usually doesn't care for diction all that much, but it's nice to hear some soprano actually care about the libretto. The voice is uniquely Battle: you either like it or hate it. Like Callas.
I like Kiri better. Sutherland though will always be untouchable among all that attempt to sing Handel.
@calaftheeast Sutherland never sang anything... just mumbled some notes, without any words. Kiri only wishes of having half the voice and technique Battle displays in this single piece.
@MaddameButterfly504 as for Magdalena Kozena I think that a clearer diction would mean a loss of musicality; anyway, we have to take it as it is and I'm in love with the sublime work of Kathleen, not to forget Wynton! because they are closest to the great SPIRIT, and manage to touch my heart
It's good to have a diverse representation in a particular artform, similarly to the way in which we need more female representation in the jazz community. And not in a "fine, we'll let her play 'cause coach said we had to have a girl" kind of way. Diversity helps to rule out stereotypes that separate people and art.
Unfortunately, talented as Battle is, there are lines drawn in terms of behavior, and she crossed them, so I can't sympathize with her too much about f-ing up her career.
@mkurnat if only life was so clear cut. Who cares regarding her behaviour. There are many classical singers out there who have behaved just as bad. It is a pity that noone wanted to re employ her. Their loss, do not think that she is short of pocket as a result do you.
What a lovely lyric coloratura she has, some of the effects she uses are just incredible - her shake creates a glorious sound. And Marsalis on trumpet is glorious too.
Ignorant, I am not. One makes a error or has a misunderstanding doesn't make them ignorant. If this were the case, we would all be considered ignorant. Being corrected is not a problem, we all need correcting at one point or another, but it is how it is done or delivered that makes it rude. Now I want you to look up the work rude on wordiq and maybe you'll learn something!
This is a very difficult song to sing without straining to hold the notes. She does a remarkable job - she is such a talented, gifted, beautiful woman. Why oh why does she have to display such diva behavior wherever she goes? I'll never understand it.
@hlkearns You are wrong, hlkearns - she is the worst Diva known to mankind. Hideous behavior and all sorts of spoiled antics - she has the voice of an angel and the temperment of a 2 year old brat.
@hlkearns Well, hlkearns...I understand what you mean now, but you and I must have polar opposite definitions of the word diva - lol. Anyway - she sure can sing - but I wouldn't want to share a taxi with her. LOL
@Lonestarry Granted, she does have a gorgeous instrument, but the basic sense of the term "Diva" is "goodness" in every respect of the word and this is where she fails!
@Lonestarry As I said, she is not a Diva! A real Diva would never behave in the manner in which Kathleen Battle has. A real Diva does not display hideous behavior in public or subject her colleagues to such behavior!
@hlkearns Look up the word Diva, hlkearns. It is derived from the latin and italian word for goddess - not goodness, as you so stated. Diva used to simply mean a female opera singer, but as of late, lots of negative connotations are associated with the word, and the word Diva implies that hte star believes the only thing that matters is her person, and that everyone involved with her must cater to her every whim. Look it up on wordiq. Learn something.
@hlkearns I'm not being rude - perhaps your lack of understanding of the english language makes you misunderstand my meaning. Goodness vs. Goddess is one major typo there kiddo! LOL When I suggested you learn something I wasn't being rude, just practical. You really do need to know what you are talking about before you start spouting word definitions and meanings. Grow up.
@hlkearns I do not feel I am the least bit rude. You feel I am because I am correcting your mistakes. I am stating the facts - you don't know what you are talking about. I suggest you read the definition of the word diva and learn something so that you will not continue making a fool out of yourself. I am the type of person that calls a situation like I see it. And I am calling you ignorant.
Are we listening to her singing, or her attitude and behaviour? These stories now legend for almost 20 years - yet still nobody has a concrete affirmation of what she actually said during those times - but lets just go along with more hearsay.
@AbeokutaCity1 How about the time Kathy stopped rehearsal and yelled "Where the hell is that fat bitch that cinched me in too tight? I am going to kill her." She then slapped the unfortunate costume woman in front of everyone. How's that for "hearsay"?
Okay - You say she said it! So reveal your sources I will I cross check them. With dates and places, names and venues etc. If you do not want to reveal them publicly then you can message me. You say it is more than hearsay - so could you kindly inform me of how you got these facts?
@AbeokutaCity1 Why, the New York Times for one. And a book written by Volpe the general manager of the MET who fired her at the time. This is common knowledge as there were at least a hundred witnesses to the event. Another story from the NYT: "When it was announced that Battle had been fired...(She was in a production of La fille du Regiment) the entire cast burst into spontaneous applause."
@goldenthroat86 This why she sings early and baroque music for which her voice is most suited. I am just glad that she is using and has used her God given gift to the best of her ability.
@goldenthroat86 - She uses what God as give her very well. She is smart and knows that her voice lends itself best to early and baroque music. She would be foolish to use it otherwise.
KB's pronouncation is lousy and her diction is too staccato for this piece. She does OK but leave this one to the lyrics like Swartzkopf and, espically her 1981 wedding preformance, TE KANAWA!
Still disagree with you on both points. This is the aria that gave Kiri Te Kanawa the title of DAME! Also, if you get a coloratura, get Sutherland or Sills and not Battle. Never did like her voice and attitude as she has the range and the voice but no heart. She is just machinelike in her delivery. She is like an operatic quaalude!
first of all, I do admire kiri, and also sills - more for her personality and role as director of the opera than the singing. KB...well, sometimes she has attitude, true (she is infamous for diva behaviors) but she is a clever singer, and she did a number of things very well. On YT - check out "et incarnatus est" for example. YT had lovely vids of her doing gospel from a concert with jesse norman that were removed lately - too bad.
@RRydnew i agree with the comment below. KB is the premier coloratura of the last generation and one of the last of the greats. she amazing in this piece and please stop talking about her attitude. we are here to listen to the singing not rumors of behavior. grow up.
Her voice is very expressive and clear. The interpretation is also one of the best I've ever heard. Her coloratura is very clear and you can hear and feel every single tone which I really admire.
I hate to see obvious racial slurs entire into an ostensible conversation about music and performance. I love baroque music and truth be told, I was at first hesitant about Kathleen Battle's presentation of Handel, But she's glorious, and while I don't ditto cooliotim's language I do his enthusiasm for Wynton Marsalis. Handel I am certain would want us 300 years on to perform him with the fantastic range we do.
I absolutely love her. If you do not like her interpretation, then listen somewhere else. Because, there are plenty of us who love anything she sings.
There are plenty of people who voted for Hitler and George W. Bush as well. Just because you ENJOY something does NOT make that thing objectively good, correct, proper or excellent. Stop projecting your subjective "enjoyment" of something as if that enjoyment were an informed, educated opinion. I coudln't care less what you "enjoy". I care plenty that you attempt to pass that off as an intelligent and educated opinion regarding a subject about which you are wholly ignorant.
and likewise I couldn't (spelled correctly I might add) care less about your opinion. I use youtube for MY enjoyment and will continue to do so. I do not come here to impress some idiot who hides behind his screen to harrass other people and try to force his supposed knowledge on them. I am not obligated to agree with you anymore than you are me. So, grow up.... do what you want... because I sure am. Get used to it gossass
She is a VERY POOR authentic interpreter of Baroque music. It is nauseating to see cretins who have no knowledge of proper Baroque performance wet themselves in the throes of Politically Correct orgasms and shrilly proclaiming Excelsior! It is even more disgusting that the skin color thing has to again make its appearance. I could not possibly care less what these vulgar rabble proclaim, SHE CANT PERFORM BAROQUE MUSIC CORRECTLY FOR A DAMN.
If you think that she poorly displays the classic Baroque music, then WHY LISTEN? No one wants to hear you bitch about what YOU think is right or wrong. This is for people who enjoy this music, HER music, to comment on. If you dont like it, GTFO.
And btw, Coloratura sopranos such as miss Battle are VERY hard to find these days. Her voice perfectly suits this type of music. She is *supposed* to have an almost sharp tone to her voice. Do your research before you diss a great artist.
...that we can easily compare and tweak, and walk ourselves into the meritocracy--star quality helps too, of course.
This doesn't mean I think the people who are firmly situated in that world don't deserve to be there. You'll never hear me say a bad word about Cecilia Bartoli or Pascale Roge, I enjoy them both enormously. I think we're winning the fight, we're just still of stuck in battle mode.
...for anyone who supports equality--in the fine arts or elsewhere--it's really disheartening to learn about what's going on as we write. I think we hold on to the (sometimes naive) belief that the agonies of learning a canon, being the next link in the lineage and spending so much time developing your skills produces performers who have earned their stripes. We have so much information and tradition in art music, that we can make a veritable checklist of 'skills needed for such...'
...the classical music world is by tradition, very conservative and chauvinistic. It's changing, but it's going SO slowly. Less than 10 per cent of North American conductors are women. It can be disheartening, but as with anything, you've got to be a scrapper. If you love it enough, you'll battle it out.
I know it sounds maudlin, but that's the only course of action, isn't it?
I don't know if I'd be able to cope with being a black ballerina. The literature on this absence is saddening...
Well, I'm a classical musician (Interestingly, black singers have managed to fare better in Europe, especially in Germany and France. Stokowski was forced to rescind an invitation to Shirley Verrett with the Houston Symphony, because the board members would not accept a black performer. Luckily, he was able to make arrangements for a better gig. Nothing's easy, right? But you see far more black opera singers than instrumentalists in the art music world...
It does if you ever wanted to sing in this genre and you hear all the time that you will never thrive because this genre is partial toward you (person of color) I only state this because alot of people don't know about her and others who have made their way in this category of music
Everyone please, you must understand how IMPORTANT Kathleens voice, talent, grace, and career are not only to black people but to all people of color, b4 u throw a stone at her, look at it this way, she is a black woman, in a field dominated by Caucasians, she not only holds her own, she brings a very unique quality to this genre of music and the world.
I agree as if I want to see the the sun rise I use my eyes but I have as yet not seen the sound of a voice nor have I heard the sound of colour. At 72 I feel time is running out for me to experience these pervesions of the senses.
@helmuthoorn only because....for other black aspiring artists....(especially young black females)...it is extremely important for us to see this due to the fact that alot of black youth ae not exposed enough if at all to this kinda of art and talent....so her pigment is important due to her being a living success story for all Af-AM folks, both young and old
I just can't hear the value of her voice or technique. Its as if it were pierced by a needle releasing air unwillingly. Its a true travesty. and the taking of breaths, well...deep down there might be substance, like wine, but its sooo diluted all thats left is a hiss in the wind! (Handel is probably rolling in his grave)
Battle is a Coloratura soprano. They are supposed to have an almost sharp quality to their voice, as opposed to a lyric soprano, who posess a much softer tone. Battle is great for this type of music because typically Coloratura sopranos have very high ranges. Lyric sopranos have lower ranges and are more suited to art songs.
You *are* entitled to an opinion, I'm not saying you're not. I'm just letting you know that the style in this song is supposed to be as you're hearing it.
I've heard many versions of this aria on YOUTUBE. Gruberova's rendition, the climactic high D aside, strikes me as the most technically brilliant--she puts her even tone, unsurpassed agility, and incredible breath control to good use. Yet Gruberova leaves me cold. Battle, however, sings with great relish, nimbly dispatching Handel's melismas and adding tasteful ornaments. In this aria she sounds more joyous than any other soprano I've ever heard. For these reasons, this is my favorite version.
I love your descriptions here. I would agree, for they matched my experience not only with this piece but all of Battle's Handel handlings. Handel wrote expecting musicians to fully engage in his intent.
For breath control and clarity I prefer Battle. At times I get the impression that Sutherland looses control a tad on the runs. But I prefer Sutherlands stronger thicker timbre of voice for this. Battle is clear and flutey, but I seem to want a trumpetting voice.
I have this exact recording on a Wynton Marsalis cd, and I'm actually performing it a few times this semester. It's a fun piece to play, but can be a chop buster in practice because it hangs on alot of high notes. Where the high G's(A on C horns and B on B-flats since I'm playing a D horn) are sustained longer than a whole note can be pretty escruciating, more so if you have a headache.I borrowed a couple of the ornaments Wynton put in, but the rest I did myself.
If you're looking for a recording of this with Wynton, buy "The Essential Wynton Marsalis". It's a 2 disc collection of performances from baroqe, classical, contemporary, and his theme and variation performances like Carnical of Venice, and some jazz. This piece is the last track on the first cd. I get chills and teary eyed almost every time I hear it. It was a pain to find but I'm glad I have it. Hopefully you have luck finding it.
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I'm not sure I'm a fan of Battle's small mouse-like voice. While she certainly has the agility necessary for this piece, she lacks the joy and gravitas of better singers. She's too "floaty" and totally lacks support in the higher runs... almost like a singer with a bad cold purposely holding back during a practice run. It's pretty but just doesn't move me.
I disagree with bighoody0. Although she does have a small voice, not having a big voice does not preclude one from singing opera. I have been to many Battle recitals, etc., and you can hear her from every vantage point. I will agree though that her voice has changed, but keep in mind she is in her early 60's. We should not expect her to sound like she did 10, 15, or 20 years ago.
Bighoody, I was just at a recital of Kathy's and I sat in the balcony and heard her perfectly fine. The voice is not a large as other sopranos, but she knows how to use her instrument an it's fierce and has always been. Plus her musicianship is the best around!
I'm not sure I'd agree that Battle's musicianship is the best. While her showmanship might be great, her loud and inappropriate breathing and butchering of foreign languages (like German) suggest otherwise.
Well, I don't agree with you hisimperialmajesty : there is no possible comparison between Sutherland and Battle : too many 'huhuhu' in Battle's line, breaks and stops, no power, no shining tone, very small voice. Moreover, if you have ever been to a live concert, you may have noticed that you can't hear her beyond third row (you'd better bring a good book). I like her Semele though, but did not see it on stage, there must have been a great work in the studio...
Actually, I think we were saying the same thing, just in different terms. I think that Battle should be given the credit she's due, which is that of an extrodinarily talented lyric coloratura soprano. But everything she has, Dame Joan had, and had in greater amounts. Beauty of tone is a matter of personal taste, but vocal power and the ability to sing coloratura are not, and Sutherland had both of these to a much greater extent that does Battle, particularly vocal power.
in baroque the huhuhu's are permisible and sometimes even encouraged in the bouncier melismas like these which Battle executes flawlessly. also, this piece isn't supposed to be powerful, it's bright and innocent requiring immense agility and pitch acuracy rather than power and resonance. Joan Sutherland is fabulous in her own right, but I think this piece goes to battle for her sweet voice, vocal agility, and flawless pitch.
I'll tell you who's "like unto La Battle" (or was before she retired): Dame Joan Sutherland. Yes, Ms. Battle's voice is lovely, and her coloratura impeccable. And amoung sopranos who are still performing, she is almost certainly unmatched in these two things. But Dame Joan had both of those things to at least as great an extent as Battle, and she had one more thing: power.
@hisimperialmajesty Yes, another thing Sutherland had, the natural inability to pronounce a single word. She just vocalized, over and over, never sang a word in her whole life.
I think as a singer she is every bit on par with Te Kanawa.
In terms of fame, much less so.
Personality defect - what a pity!
Cissy97 1 week ago
A glorious rendition, simply the best. Perfect diction, pitch, tempo, coloraturas beyond perfection, silvery voice, pure timbre. A delight, greatest rendition of this magnificent piece. For sure.
pedrofribeiro 2 weeks ago 2
Kathleen Battle has certainly been blessed with an angelic voice!! She really touches the soul of my soul when I hear her voice!
Marmalade000000 1 month ago
Her diction is really clear which is a plus. Handel singing usually doesn't care for diction all that much, but it's nice to hear some soprano actually care about the libretto. The voice is uniquely Battle: you either like it or hate it. Like Callas.
I like Kiri better. Sutherland though will always be untouchable among all that attempt to sing Handel.
calaftheeast 1 month ago
@calaftheeast Sutherland never sang anything... just mumbled some notes, without any words. Kiri only wishes of having half the voice and technique Battle displays in this single piece.
pedrofribeiro 2 weeks ago
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timdivine 3 months ago
I wish she had been clearer on the diction :-/
MaddameButterfly504 4 months ago
@MaddameButterfly504 as for Magdalena Kozena I think that a clearer diction would mean a loss of musicality; anyway, we have to take it as it is and I'm in love with the sublime work of Kathleen, not to forget Wynton! because they are closest to the great SPIRIT, and manage to touch my heart
meetykusch1 2 weeks ago
Great soprano, great pic trumpet, great Handel. What's the fuss? It's close to sublime. It is sublime.
FloridaNativeToo 11 months ago
Great soprano, great pic trumpet, great Handel. What's the fuss? It's close to sublime.
FloridaNativeToo 11 months ago
I am so grateful that I was given opportunity to hear this in my lifetime!
Prosperwithin 1 year ago
I like this ditty...
PatroniFan 1 year ago
It's good to have a diverse representation in a particular artform, similarly to the way in which we need more female representation in the jazz community. And not in a "fine, we'll let her play 'cause coach said we had to have a girl" kind of way. Diversity helps to rule out stereotypes that separate people and art.
Unfortunately, talented as Battle is, there are lines drawn in terms of behavior, and she crossed them, so I can't sympathize with her too much about f-ing up her career.
mkurnat 1 year ago
@mkurnat if only life was so clear cut. Who cares regarding her behaviour. There are many classical singers out there who have behaved just as bad. It is a pity that noone wanted to re employ her. Their loss, do not think that she is short of pocket as a result do you.
NART65 11 months ago
It's funny that people got trolled over kathleen battle.:)
I have read many things about her being a bitch in RL but when you have the voice you can act kind diva and get away with it.
cacopheus 1 year ago
She has a beautiful voice.
osinging 1 year ago
Her voice is very pretty to listen to her but watching her.... watching her is another story entirely. :-/
SangpourPlaisir 1 year ago
Why are people talking about her skin? Weird topic for such a voice.
slackergirl22 1 year ago 2
Beautiful voice, beautiful woman
carminacat93 1 year ago
Glorious. She has the most incredible voice.
sopranomommy1 1 year ago
What a lovely lyric coloratura she has, some of the effects she uses are just incredible - her shake creates a glorious sound. And Marsalis on trumpet is glorious too.
rix657 1 year ago 3
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rix657 1 year ago
@ComradeDeath Maybe its worth keeping in mind that Schumann went crazy, Beethoven went deaf etc etc
hartmuthopp 1 year ago
Fantastic. It has the 'goosebump' factor!
timananda 1 year ago 2
Wow!!!!
Such a pity she doesn't sing this kind of repertoire anymore. She's sooo good at it!!
Uruguruh 1 year ago
beautiful trumpet work here as well
yupptoc 1 year ago 8
Again, stop making personal attacks and say rather that you "just don't like her'. I am speaking to the idiots only, of course.
TheSoulflower 1 year ago
Perfection.
Makes me weep.
tsomer07 1 year ago 2
Note to self; do not read the comments, do not read the comments! Okay, just one. Dang! I should have taken my own advice.
simmad0wnn0w 1 year ago
Gorgeous gorgeous and gorgeous. I'm not particular.
dedyabrian 1 year ago
Gorgeous!!!! What a fabulous instrument she has!!!!
katasongbird 1 year ago 3
Flawless!!!!
dacianey3 1 year ago 2
Absolutely glorious and heavenly all rolled up into one!
classyteacherdiva 1 year ago 4
Ignorant, I am not. One makes a error or has a misunderstanding doesn't make them ignorant. If this were the case, we would all be considered ignorant. Being corrected is not a problem, we all need correcting at one point or another, but it is how it is done or delivered that makes it rude. Now I want you to look up the work rude on wordiq and maybe you'll learn something!
hlkearns 1 year ago
Look up Leontyne Price 2001 Richard Tucker Gala where she sings God Bless America. Leontyne was 74 and sounded AMAZING!
goldenthroat86 1 year ago 2
OUTSTANDING, BEYOND OUTSTANDING
bohemoth1 1 year ago 2
This is a very difficult song to sing without straining to hold the notes. She does a remarkable job - she is such a talented, gifted, beautiful woman. Why oh why does she have to display such diva behavior wherever she goes? I'll never understand it.
Lonestarry 1 year ago
@Lonestarry She doesn't display diva behavior, because a real dive would never behave in the manner in which Kathleen Battle has!
hlkearns 1 year ago
@hlkearns You are wrong, hlkearns - she is the worst Diva known to mankind. Hideous behavior and all sorts of spoiled antics - she has the voice of an angel and the temperment of a 2 year old brat.
Lonestarry 1 year ago
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hlkearns 1 year ago
@hlkearns Well, hlkearns...I understand what you mean now, but you and I must have polar opposite definitions of the word diva - lol. Anyway - she sure can sing - but I wouldn't want to share a taxi with her. LOL
Lonestarry 1 year ago
@Lonestarry Granted, she does have a gorgeous instrument, but the basic sense of the term "Diva" is "goodness" in every respect of the word and this is where she fails!
hlkearns 1 year ago
@Lonestarry As I said, she is not a Diva! A real Diva would never behave in the manner in which Kathleen Battle has. A real Diva does not display hideous behavior in public or subject her colleagues to such behavior!
hlkearns 1 year ago
@hlkearns Look up the word Diva, hlkearns. It is derived from the latin and italian word for goddess - not goodness, as you so stated. Diva used to simply mean a female opera singer, but as of late, lots of negative connotations are associated with the word, and the word Diva implies that hte star believes the only thing that matters is her person, and that everyone involved with her must cater to her every whim. Look it up on wordiq. Learn something.
Lonestarry 1 year ago
@Lonestarry "Goodness" what is called a typo in my part. You need to learn not to be rude!
hlkearns 1 year ago
@hlkearns I'm not being rude - perhaps your lack of understanding of the english language makes you misunderstand my meaning. Goodness vs. Goddess is one major typo there kiddo! LOL When I suggested you learn something I wasn't being rude, just practical. You really do need to know what you are talking about before you start spouting word definitions and meanings. Grow up.
Lonestarry 1 year ago
@Lonestarry Like you said, you need to learn not to be rude! But then again, I don't guess that can be contributed to you.
hlkearns 1 year ago
@hlkearns I do not feel I am the least bit rude. You feel I am because I am correcting your mistakes. I am stating the facts - you don't know what you are talking about. I suggest you read the definition of the word diva and learn something so that you will not continue making a fool out of yourself. I am the type of person that calls a situation like I see it. And I am calling you ignorant.
Lonestarry 1 year ago
beautiful woman :)
SoshiSNSD 1 year ago
One of the loveliest soprano voices of the last century!
marywardify 1 year ago
Battle delivers a soaring, joyful, effortless piece of heaven in this recording. Easily my favorite rendition of the song.
blackleatherrain 1 year ago 5
Dieser Stimme könnte ich stundenlang zuhören.
mrkartolina 1 year ago 2
This woman makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end every time she opens her mouth! Enough said!!!!
brad130978 1 year ago 6
Are we listening to her singing, or her attitude and behaviour? These stories now legend for almost 20 years - yet still nobody has a concrete affirmation of what she actually said during those times - but lets just go along with more hearsay.
AbeokutaCity1 1 year ago 2
@AbeokutaCity1 How about the time Kathy stopped rehearsal and yelled "Where the hell is that fat bitch that cinched me in too tight? I am going to kill her." She then slapped the unfortunate costume woman in front of everyone. How's that for "hearsay"?
goldenthroat86 1 year ago
@goldenthroat86
Okay - You say she said it! So reveal your sources I will I cross check them. With dates and places, names and venues etc. If you do not want to reveal them publicly then you can message me. You say it is more than hearsay - so could you kindly inform me of how you got these facts?
AbeokutaCity1 1 year ago
@AbeokutaCity1 Why, the New York Times for one. And a book written by Volpe the general manager of the MET who fired her at the time. This is common knowledge as there were at least a hundred witnesses to the event. Another story from the NYT: "When it was announced that Battle had been fired...(She was in a production of La fille du Regiment) the entire cast burst into spontaneous applause."
goldenthroat86 1 year ago
@goldenthroat86 And her voice pales in comparison to the grand tradition of the black American divas...Price, Bumbry, Verret, Norman, Arroyo...etc.
goldenthroat86 1 year ago
@goldenthroat86 This why she sings early and baroque music for which her voice is most suited. I am just glad that she is using and has used her God given gift to the best of her ability.
hlkearns 1 year ago
@goldenthroat86 - She uses what God as give her very well. She is smart and knows that her voice lends itself best to early and baroque music. She would be foolish to use it otherwise.
hlkearns 1 year ago
@goldenthroat86 A little tale, not true, of course.
pedrofribeiro 2 weeks ago
@RRydnew and @qyzuf Both of you shut up, and let me listen! ha ha, JK :P
ejrouge 1 year ago
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Thanks for posting this, blessings!
sopranoholic 1 year ago
KB's pronouncation is lousy and her diction is too staccato for this piece. She does OK but leave this one to the lyrics like Swartzkopf and, espically her 1981 wedding preformance, TE KANAWA!
RRydnew 2 years ago
1. diagree on the diction.
2. this aria is better fit for a colortura, like KB, than dramatic/lyric sopranos who attempt it
qyzuf 1 year ago 3
Still disagree with you on both points. This is the aria that gave Kiri Te Kanawa the title of DAME! Also, if you get a coloratura, get Sutherland or Sills and not Battle. Never did like her voice and attitude as she has the range and the voice but no heart. She is just machinelike in her delivery. She is like an operatic quaalude!
RRydnew 1 year ago
first of all, I do admire kiri, and also sills - more for her personality and role as director of the opera than the singing. KB...well, sometimes she has attitude, true (she is infamous for diva behaviors) but she is a clever singer, and she did a number of things very well. On YT - check out "et incarnatus est" for example. YT had lovely vids of her doing gospel from a concert with jesse norman that were removed lately - too bad.
qyzuf 1 year ago
@RRydnew i agree with the comment below. KB is the premier coloratura of the last generation and one of the last of the greats. she amazing in this piece and please stop talking about her attitude. we are here to listen to the singing not rumors of behavior. grow up.
bcom11 1 year ago
i love her.
chipmunktubetop 2 years ago
I love the quality of her voice, but this particular recording isn't very musical and it's just sort of sloppy...still pretty though!
liedvondererde 2 years ago
Kathleen shows her unbelievable elegance.
baird292 2 years ago 2
Very good,but my mum is better..:-)
249Snowman249 2 years ago
@249Snowman249 BESTR COMMENT I'VE EVER SEEN!
pianomags 2 years ago
@249Snowman249 Is your mum Dame Joan Sutherland or Dame Kiri Te Kanawa by any chance?
baritonebynight 1 year ago
her voice makes flutes jealous!!!!!
GosfordAbercrombie 2 years ago 5
A grand, classydiva!
classyteacherdiva 2 years ago
She is my all time favorite!!
Discipal4goodmusic 2 years ago 3
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jehophus 2 years ago
Sweet is a word that really expresses the quality. I do wish we could sing her singing it.
MandyJMaddison 2 years ago
Beautiful!
kazzy211 2 years ago
Love it! Her voice is so clear, light and bright!
AteretK 2 years ago
I was going to say the same thing. Her voice is so clear and sweet. I love it.
LAX324 2 years ago
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AteretK 2 years ago
Her voice is very expressive and clear. The interpretation is also one of the best I've ever heard. Her coloratura is very clear and you can hear and feel every single tone which I really admire.
paunovicpn 2 years ago 2
I hate to see obvious racial slurs entire into an ostensible conversation about music and performance. I love baroque music and truth be told, I was at first hesitant about Kathleen Battle's presentation of Handel, But she's glorious, and while I don't ditto cooliotim's language I do his enthusiasm for Wynton Marsalis. Handel I am certain would want us 300 years on to perform him with the fantastic range we do.
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cooliotim 2 years ago
I absolutely love her. If you do not like her interpretation, then listen somewhere else. Because, there are plenty of us who love anything she sings.
jakesga 2 years ago
There are plenty of people who voted for Hitler and George W. Bush as well. Just because you ENJOY something does NOT make that thing objectively good, correct, proper or excellent. Stop projecting your subjective "enjoyment" of something as if that enjoyment were an informed, educated opinion. I coudln't care less what you "enjoy". I care plenty that you attempt to pass that off as an intelligent and educated opinion regarding a subject about which you are wholly ignorant.
grofaz1939 2 years ago
and likewise I couldn't (spelled correctly I might add) care less about your opinion. I use youtube for MY enjoyment and will continue to do so. I do not come here to impress some idiot who hides behind his screen to harrass other people and try to force his supposed knowledge on them. I am not obligated to agree with you anymore than you are me. So, grow up.... do what you want... because I sure am. Get used to it gossass
jakesga 2 years ago
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She is a VERY POOR authentic interpreter of Baroque music. It is nauseating to see cretins who have no knowledge of proper Baroque performance wet themselves in the throes of Politically Correct orgasms and shrilly proclaiming Excelsior! It is even more disgusting that the skin color thing has to again make its appearance. I could not possibly care less what these vulgar rabble proclaim, SHE CANT PERFORM BAROQUE MUSIC CORRECTLY FOR A DAMN.
grofaz1939 2 years ago
@grofaz1939:
If you think that she poorly displays the classic Baroque music, then WHY LISTEN? No one wants to hear you bitch about what YOU think is right or wrong. This is for people who enjoy this music, HER music, to comment on. If you dont like it, GTFO.
And btw, Coloratura sopranos such as miss Battle are VERY hard to find these days. Her voice perfectly suits this type of music. She is *supposed* to have an almost sharp tone to her voice. Do your research before you diss a great artist.
MusicalAngel022631 2 years ago 2
Her voice sparkles! It's light timbre is perfect for this song. Her technique is beautiful and effortless.
MaestraLisi 2 years ago 3
...that we can easily compare and tweak, and walk ourselves into the meritocracy--star quality helps too, of course.
This doesn't mean I think the people who are firmly situated in that world don't deserve to be there. You'll never hear me say a bad word about Cecilia Bartoli or Pascale Roge, I enjoy them both enormously. I think we're winning the fight, we're just still of stuck in battle mode.
BirchBarlow 2 years ago
...for anyone who supports equality--in the fine arts or elsewhere--it's really disheartening to learn about what's going on as we write. I think we hold on to the (sometimes naive) belief that the agonies of learning a canon, being the next link in the lineage and spending so much time developing your skills produces performers who have earned their stripes. We have so much information and tradition in art music, that we can make a veritable checklist of 'skills needed for such...'
BirchBarlow 2 years ago
...the classical music world is by tradition, very conservative and chauvinistic. It's changing, but it's going SO slowly. Less than 10 per cent of North American conductors are women. It can be disheartening, but as with anything, you've got to be a scrapper. If you love it enough, you'll battle it out.
I know it sounds maudlin, but that's the only course of action, isn't it?
I don't know if I'd be able to cope with being a black ballerina. The literature on this absence is saddening...
BirchBarlow 2 years ago
Trill! Hot cocoa, she sounds good!
Well, I'm a classical musician (Interestingly, black singers have managed to fare better in Europe, especially in Germany and France. Stokowski was forced to rescind an invitation to Shirley Verrett with the Houston Symphony, because the board members would not accept a black performer. Luckily, he was able to make arrangements for a better gig. Nothing's easy, right? But you see far more black opera singers than instrumentalists in the art music world...
BirchBarlow 2 years ago
It does if you ever wanted to sing in this genre and you hear all the time that you will never thrive because this genre is partial toward you (person of color) I only state this because alot of people don't know about her and others who have made their way in this category of music
deizel90 2 years ago
virtuoso!
modigliani1964 2 years ago
Everyone please, you must understand how IMPORTANT Kathleens voice, talent, grace, and career are not only to black people but to all people of color, b4 u throw a stone at her, look at it this way, she is a black woman, in a field dominated by Caucasians, she not only holds her own, she brings a very unique quality to this genre of music and the world.
deizel90 2 years ago 4
She is just an excellent singer and the colour of her skin has NOTHING to do with it. Does this really matter ?
helmuthoorn 2 years ago 15
@helmuthoorn
I agree as if I want to see the the sun rise I use my eyes but I have as yet not seen the sound of a voice nor have I heard the sound of colour. At 72 I feel time is running out for me to experience these pervesions of the senses.
ajurneyman 1 year ago
@helmuthoorn only because....for other black aspiring artists....(especially young black females)...it is extremely important for us to see this due to the fact that alot of black youth ae not exposed enough if at all to this kinda of art and talent....so her pigment is important due to her being a living success story for all Af-AM folks, both young and old
deizel90 1 year ago
Her skin color doesn't make her special at all... I like her because of her voice, not because she's black.
leoperarm 2 years ago 26
@leoperarm
I like her when she doesn't sing
jhknight17 11 months ago
Her tone is the BEST for this song!
blckglam 2 years ago 4
Woonderful combination of performers!
FrankJared 2 years ago 3
very good!!!
AuroraOnVenice 2 years ago
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I just can't hear the value of her voice or technique. Its as if it were pierced by a needle releasing air unwillingly. Its a true travesty. and the taking of breaths, well...deep down there might be substance, like wine, but its sooo diluted all thats left is a hiss in the wind! (Handel is probably rolling in his grave)
mxmaxamxm 2 years ago
@mxmaxamxm:
Battle is a Coloratura soprano. They are supposed to have an almost sharp quality to their voice, as opposed to a lyric soprano, who posess a much softer tone. Battle is great for this type of music because typically Coloratura sopranos have very high ranges. Lyric sopranos have lower ranges and are more suited to art songs.
You *are* entitled to an opinion, I'm not saying you're not. I'm just letting you know that the style in this song is supposed to be as you're hearing it.
MusicalAngel022631 2 years ago 4
When Marasils starts to improvise towards the end one almost excpects Battle to break out into scat!
oldun52 2 years ago
Thanks for posting this, blessings!
mateocardona1964 2 years ago
Wonderful clear coloratura voice. Her mate is also wonderful on his own instrument. Bravi!
Babejuda 2 years ago
They really made this into a gorgeous duet!
Aniretak205 3 years ago
I've always thought her voice was perfect for Handel; confirmed again. Thank you for this post.
TheSolidGloryisJesus 3 years ago
That was Davis, not Solti.
bbbartolo 3 years ago
wonderful, even better than her Solti/Messiah version. Yvonne Kenny recorded this too -also wonderful.
bbbartolo 3 years ago
i'm playing this on sop
squarebanana94 3 years ago
I've heard many versions of this aria on YOUTUBE. Gruberova's rendition, the climactic high D aside, strikes me as the most technically brilliant--she puts her even tone, unsurpassed agility, and incredible breath control to good use. Yet Gruberova leaves me cold. Battle, however, sings with great relish, nimbly dispatching Handel's melismas and adding tasteful ornaments. In this aria she sounds more joyous than any other soprano I've ever heard. For these reasons, this is my favorite version.
BlkMuscGent 3 years ago 3
I love your descriptions here. I would agree, for they matched my experience not only with this piece but all of Battle's Handel handlings. Handel wrote expecting musicians to fully engage in his intent.
TheSolidGloryisJesus 3 years ago
interesting comment! what do you think of sutherland's version?
x4812k 3 years ago
For breath control and clarity I prefer Battle. At times I get the impression that Sutherland looses control a tad on the runs. But I prefer Sutherlands stronger thicker timbre of voice for this. Battle is clear and flutey, but I seem to want a trumpetting voice.
GeorgeMaxwellDuPre 2 years ago 2
I have this exact recording on a Wynton Marsalis cd, and I'm actually performing it a few times this semester. It's a fun piece to play, but can be a chop buster in practice because it hangs on alot of high notes. Where the high G's(A on C horns and B on B-flats since I'm playing a D horn) are sustained longer than a whole note can be pretty escruciating, more so if you have a headache.I borrowed a couple of the ornaments Wynton put in, but the rest I did myself.
socaltrumpet83 3 years ago
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crstnbuenca 2 years ago
Josefina, dapat hindi ka satsat!
schmidtenor 2 years ago
Is this the recording with Wynton Marsalis on trumpet? Sadly, I've been on the hunt for this for years!
timothyks 3 years ago
yes it is with Marsalis when both were young and at their greatest
urherman 3 years ago
If you're looking for a recording of this with Wynton, buy "The Essential Wynton Marsalis". It's a 2 disc collection of performances from baroqe, classical, contemporary, and his theme and variation performances like Carnical of Venice, and some jazz. This piece is the last track on the first cd. I get chills and teary eyed almost every time I hear it. It was a pain to find but I'm glad I have it. Hopefully you have luck finding it.
socaltrumpet83 3 years ago
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I'm not sure I'm a fan of Battle's small mouse-like voice. While she certainly has the agility necessary for this piece, she lacks the joy and gravitas of better singers. She's too "floaty" and totally lacks support in the higher runs... almost like a singer with a bad cold purposely holding back during a practice run. It's pretty but just doesn't move me.
gay4play 3 years ago
Is it just me or does she bear a striking resemblance to Phylicia Rashad in this pic?
crna2dlt 3 years ago
I also think so.
compeld2sing 3 years ago
kind of..the big hair and all.
coopandre 3 years ago
Love the trumpet ornamentation!
organist08 3 years ago 2
at least shes in tune (horn issues).
SPUNKGIVER 3 years ago
I disagree with bighoody0. Although she does have a small voice, not having a big voice does not preclude one from singing opera. I have been to many Battle recitals, etc., and you can hear her from every vantage point. I will agree though that her voice has changed, but keep in mind she is in her early 60's. We should not expect her to sound like she did 10, 15, or 20 years ago.
TrevorDaniels 3 years ago
I agree, she is the best of all in that piece
madziua90 3 years ago 5
Battle is my favorite for this piece. It just conveys so much joy.
Dobermama 3 years ago 6
by far the best version of this piece
raigekimaru 3 years ago 5
Bighoody, I was just at a recital of Kathy's and I sat in the balcony and heard her perfectly fine. The voice is not a large as other sopranos, but she knows how to use her instrument an it's fierce and has always been. Plus her musicianship is the best around!
musiqe07 3 years ago
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I'm not sure I'd agree that Battle's musicianship is the best. While her showmanship might be great, her loud and inappropriate breathing and butchering of foreign languages (like German) suggest otherwise.
gay4play 3 years ago
To:gay4play-are you a musician?
nichtsleezy 3 years ago
Good question to ask; I'm still waiting for the answer.
compeld2sing 3 years ago
Also, I wonder if gay4play can understand German. Sounds like a loser to me!
nichtsleezy 3 years ago
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Well, I don't agree with you hisimperialmajesty : there is no possible comparison between Sutherland and Battle : too many 'huhuhu' in Battle's line, breaks and stops, no power, no shining tone, very small voice. Moreover, if you have ever been to a live concert, you may have noticed that you can't hear her beyond third row (you'd better bring a good book). I like her Semele though, but did not see it on stage, there must have been a great work in the studio...
bighoody0 3 years ago
Actually, I think we were saying the same thing, just in different terms. I think that Battle should be given the credit she's due, which is that of an extrodinarily talented lyric coloratura soprano. But everything she has, Dame Joan had, and had in greater amounts. Beauty of tone is a matter of personal taste, but vocal power and the ability to sing coloratura are not, and Sutherland had both of these to a much greater extent that does Battle, particularly vocal power.
hisimperialmajesty 3 years ago
in baroque the huhuhu's are permisible and sometimes even encouraged in the bouncier melismas like these which Battle executes flawlessly. also, this piece isn't supposed to be powerful, it's bright and innocent requiring immense agility and pitch acuracy rather than power and resonance. Joan Sutherland is fabulous in her own right, but I think this piece goes to battle for her sweet voice, vocal agility, and flawless pitch.
raigekimaru 3 years ago 9
I heard Battle well beyound the 3rd row!!!
coopandre 3 years ago
Such great ornamentation by both the trumpeter
and just about my favorite coloratura. There
is never a disappointment by Kathleen Battle no matter what style of music she sings. Bravo
1vinegaroon 3 years ago 7
her voice is like honey
raigekimaru 3 years ago 5
Kathleen Battle is amazing. .
Wynton is incredible. .
Them together - orgasmic.
amolluvia 3 years ago 11
Love this!!!
Love her voice!
BEAUTIFULL!!!
smnole 4 years ago 17
I'll tell you who's "like unto La Battle" (or was before she retired): Dame Joan Sutherland. Yes, Ms. Battle's voice is lovely, and her coloratura impeccable. And amoung sopranos who are still performing, she is almost certainly unmatched in these two things. But Dame Joan had both of those things to at least as great an extent as Battle, and she had one more thing: power.
hisimperialmajesty 4 years ago 6
@hisimperialmajesty Yes, another thing Sutherland had, the natural inability to pronounce a single word. She just vocalized, over and over, never sang a word in her whole life.
pedrofribeiro 2 weeks ago
Who is like unto LA BATTLE??? Seraphic and bright. Vox angelica.
podimusicus 4 years ago 6