@monkeysoulpoet I find it hard to believe it's directed toward "Reagen America" since the film came out in 1981 and was probably filmed before that, and Reagen started his presidency in 1981. I believe it's directed more toward the 1950s. The 50's were the era of McCarthyism and the presidency of Eisenhower "Ike". A more fitting era than 1981, for this mode of thinking that the dad is singing. He also puts on a World War Two/Post war helmet that was common of that era.
@DoctorChibi740 I see no problem with a man being in a musical, I love musicals. The "faggot" quote is merely a reference to the thoughts and ideas on homosexuality at the time. Im not trying to herass you, Im just saying that its not gay to be in a musical.
@FalamfalaFilms Hey thanks for responding. Sorry for making a stereotype crack at the guy. I actually understand what was going on now after actually watching the movie. His character is supposed to be the prime of masculinity and such for that show they were on. If you were to crack a little sensitivity he would go out and do something manly to avoid the situation. Plus, yeah, it was a differant time. Did I get it Correcto?
I find it funny though...in my mind it just seems to me like there making fun of the fact that "the man is supposed to provide" and that makes me happy because we all know its not true
well it well pokes fun at the american dream. everything there is white. like the white picket fence on the perfect fence. the MAN! is in charge he is the MAN! that must do the labour while the wife is in the kitchen. the american man ready for war on the russians. but as he sings. he sings about what he should do as a man but times changed and he isnt adjusting.
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Rocky Horror is obviously an ode to faggots while Shock Treatment is for straights. RH plays to the art crowd while ST is aimed at those that are media savvy. I'm sure most of things Richard O'Brien is satirizing is lost on the kids who take it up the ass but they're happy to have a hero of their own, which is cool since Farley Flavor is no Frank-n-furter and doesn't take it up the butt. Jessica Harper is also a much cooler, sexier Janet.
ode to faggots!? dude its comedic. Rocky is easily the greatest show ever, thats why its got a cult following. My gf and i watch it often, and have been to the shw on more than one occasion. ST's musical score doesnt sound very good at all, and was a complete box office flop. I havn;t seen it yet, and hope to see it purely becoz its the RHPS sequel
ode to faggots?honey your looking at a die hard rocky fan who is a straight,southern baptist christian.I think your right aboutt he art crowd but a lot of people love rocky.And i think both janets are god.there just diferent
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Rocky Horror is obviously an ode to faggots while Shock Treatment is for straights. RH plays to the art crowd while ST is aimed at those that are media savvy. I'm sure most of things Richard O'Brien is satirizing is lost on the kids who take it up the ass but they're happy to have a hero of their own, which is cool since Farley Flavor is no Frank-n-furter and doesn't take it up the butt. Jessica Harper is also a much cooler, sexier Janet.
i've never seen shock treatment but I do go to rocky regularly. Shock treatment doesn't seem..great? I'm not a middleschooler or middle aged freak, i'm a highschool social butterfly, so yea; shoot yourself WITHOUT the timewarp.
the first time i saw it i thought it was really bad compared to RHPS. but a friend pointed out (they said on the extra features) that you shouldn't think of it as a "sequel" but just another movie (i mean related to it but not a "Rocky Horror 2"). and if you think of it like this its a really good movie =O and the songs are just as good =]
Of course it's pathetic! It's suppose to be a parody of The Conservative Macho Male! It's a brilliant reverse of "In Just 7 Days I Can Make You A Man!" from RHPS! If Dr. Frankenfurter's mockery of Rocky's exercise regimen could be played opposite this, they would both deliver the same message: manhood is a subjective term and it's ridiculous to define it by personal preferences! Another O'Brien masterpiece! He and Richard Hartley are definitely the Gilbert & Sullivan of the rock-n-roll age!
I agree with the above poster, O'Brien is just kinda poking fun at how "manhood" is represented. This movie is ahead of its time, take nowadays to be a real man, you must be a body building athlete!
I agree with you. There are so many ways people act that you can't let stereotypes or expectations define what makes a man. I personally think that what makes a real man is someone who's responsible capable and who is an overall good person.
true and you make very good points, and I would like to take this time to expound upon my original statement. You have to find out what being a man means for yourself and apply it to YOURSELF, don't persecute others for their views on manhood. I was just offering my two cents on the matter nothing more or less. If you want to apply it to yourself fine, if not I won't care. And yes I suppose that my original statement could apply to a women, but I think becoming a real man (or women) is about
becoming an adult, not based on gender roles. Again This is just my opinion and I'm not trying to force it on anyone, I just want to share it in a calm and civilized manner.
Understood. I was just making the point that it's a common, human flaw to confuse the term "real man/woman" and "IDEAL man/woman." Few people that I've known qualify as IDEAL, myself included. As for REAL, I still maintain that this is a subjective term regardless of sexual and esthetic preferences. My view. Yours may vary, as is your priviledge.
Apparently, 12-year-olds cannot understand satire....
blackwingbear 1 month ago
If you haven't seen this film, why are you commenting? They are making fun of conformist idiots (and "reality TV")
blackwingbear 1 month ago
@monkeysoulpoet I find it hard to believe it's directed toward "Reagen America" since the film came out in 1981 and was probably filmed before that, and Reagen started his presidency in 1981. I believe it's directed more toward the 1950s. The 50's were the era of McCarthyism and the presidency of Eisenhower "Ike". A more fitting era than 1981, for this mode of thinking that the dad is singing. He also puts on a World War Two/Post war helmet that was common of that era.
StuG1945 2 months ago
I quoted this song in a paper I wrote last year...It was my favourite part of the paper.
xXdarkwhitewolfXx 4 months ago in playlist Shock Treatment Songs
IRONY; I LOVE IT! <3
misstuesdaysgone 5 months ago
Why do I think that guy is similar to the Soldier from Team Fortress 2.
nextgentacos123 6 months ago 2
@nextgentacos123 MAGGOTS!
xXdarkwhitewolfXx 4 months ago in playlist Shock Treatment Songs
Offensive, pathetic, whatever you want to call it...damn it, it's catchy.
ChrisNicholsFilm 6 months ago 2
Is it just me, or does Janet's dad look a hell of a lot like Ronald Reagan?
Iisdabest889 7 months ago
there's John Candy, again....
iamwuki 7 months ago
Rocky Horror praised sexual freedom and Richard O'Brien himself is bisexual so thinking that this song is to be taken literally is silly.
gothichyppie 7 months ago 5
Brilliant parody. And makes me feel bad for anyboby trapped in conservative gender roles...
SophisticatedLunatic 8 months ago
I love how some people don't realize that this song is meant to be the way it is.
justnicknet 10 months ago
Rayner Bourton (the original Rocky Horror) is the G.I. that sings in the center. Gaye and Annabel (Transylvanians) are apparently right behind him.
SirMalrose 10 months ago
@SirMalrose The cop is the original Brad from the 1973 stage show!
WeCanCos 7 months ago
wait what the fuck is this
this is really different from the movie.
xpowerout 11 months ago
"Faggots are maggots"
Yeah coming from a guy in a musical right? XD
DoctorChibi740 1 year ago
@DoctorChibi740 I see no problem with a man being in a musical, I love musicals. The "faggot" quote is merely a reference to the thoughts and ideas on homosexuality at the time. Im not trying to herass you, Im just saying that its not gay to be in a musical.
FalamfalaFilms 10 months ago
@FalamfalaFilms Hey thanks for responding. Sorry for making a stereotype crack at the guy. I actually understand what was going on now after actually watching the movie. His character is supposed to be the prime of masculinity and such for that show they were on. If you were to crack a little sensitivity he would go out and do something manly to avoid the situation. Plus, yeah, it was a differant time. Did I get it Correcto?
DoctorChibi740 10 months ago
@DoctorChibi740 Haha yes you did, dont worry about it.
FalamfalaFilms 10 months ago
Wait a second, did they actually predict the Dubya quote "put food on the family?"
xXdarkwhitewolfXx 1 year ago
lol I love it. He should grab his crotch when he says 'Thank God I'm a man'
FlavioSousa35 1 year ago
@ilovewizardrock LOL. The whole song is meant to be a satire
Antnj81 1 year ago
Haha, awesome!! I love Shock Treatment! :O)
timetorock82 1 year ago
faggots are maggots!!!
"report abuse" xD
JayZone49 1 year ago
I don't understand how this scene or song countinue the entire movie!
ziggycat999 2 years ago
Hes a good singer. and you can tell they cut parts
comedyman55 2 years ago
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comedyman55 2 years ago
genius
Vireo 2 years ago
Definetly the worst song.
I find it funny though...in my mind it just seems to me like there making fun of the fact that "the man is supposed to provide" and that makes me happy because we all know its not true
Poopypond 2 years ago
well it well pokes fun at the american dream. everything there is white. like the white picket fence on the perfect fence. the MAN! is in charge he is the MAN! that must do the labour while the wife is in the kitchen. the american man ready for war on the russians. but as he sings. he sings about what he should do as a man but times changed and he isnt adjusting.
Akyho 2 years ago 2
Faggots are Maggots
Thank God I'm a Man
Justwosweet 2 years ago 3
I don't really like the extra verse, it sounds a little awkward.
stevets01 2 years ago 5
This is the best song in the flic....my opinion.
issofunky 2 years ago
every time I hear this song along with
shock treatment
denton
duet duet
little black dress
and farleys song
It makes me a fell awful about the fact that I do not own this movie
treyblowski 2 years ago 3
FYE has a two-pck now of this and rocky horror its mad cheap too
mfsgoodlilslave 2 years ago
i bought one of those at wal-mart.
torrentANONYMOUScodc 2 years ago
I bought them at Best Buy! The best $20 plus tax I've ever spent! The commentaries alone were exceptional!
Elric33239 2 years ago
The 4th lady to the left in the first row is wearing Janet's wedding dress from Rocky Horror
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fagots are maggots
toxicwasteoid 3 years ago
I know the settings my sparkplugs get!
vvtheduckvv 3 years ago 4
bwahahahahaha..... i haven't seen shock treatment in so long!
solidturd666 3 years ago 3
"hock another jock's tools!" this comin fr a man sayin " faggots are magots" funny lol
leaveme1818 3 years ago
No, if you pay attention in the chorus they say "A jock should never", which he continues saying "hock another jocks tool"
sciencebledsun 3 years ago
This so relates to my father... fucking pig, hope he rots in hell.
LiteraryDreams 3 years ago
Is John Candy in the third audience trio?!
simuwar 3 years ago
Not according to the audio commentary on the DVD. The resemblance is frightening though, isn't it?
Elric33239 3 years ago
He wasnt that large in 82.
bigfootiscool 3 years ago 2
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ST is also undoubtedly aimed at heterosexuals. One might even say that ST is a parody of RHPS precisely because Rocky Horror is so gay.
visionaryzzz 3 years ago
best movie EVER
shoemanbundy 3 years ago 3
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Rocky Horror is obviously an ode to faggots while Shock Treatment is for straights. RH plays to the art crowd while ST is aimed at those that are media savvy. I'm sure most of things Richard O'Brien is satirizing is lost on the kids who take it up the ass but they're happy to have a hero of their own, which is cool since Farley Flavor is no Frank-n-furter and doesn't take it up the butt. Jessica Harper is also a much cooler, sexier Janet.
visionaryzzz 3 years ago
ode to faggots!? dude its comedic. Rocky is easily the greatest show ever, thats why its got a cult following. My gf and i watch it often, and have been to the shw on more than one occasion. ST's musical score doesnt sound very good at all, and was a complete box office flop. I havn;t seen it yet, and hope to see it purely becoz its the RHPS sequel
thamagnet16hotmail 3 years ago 3
ode to faggots?honey your looking at a die hard rocky fan who is a straight,southern baptist christian.I think your right aboutt he art crowd but a lot of people love rocky.And i think both janets are god.there just diferent
jessiethegeek 3 years ago 2
Granted.
visionaryzzz 3 years ago
granted what?
jessiethegeek 3 years ago
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Rocky Horror is obviously an ode to faggots while Shock Treatment is for straights. RH plays to the art crowd while ST is aimed at those that are media savvy. I'm sure most of things Richard O'Brien is satirizing is lost on the kids who take it up the ass but they're happy to have a hero of their own, which is cool since Farley Flavor is no Frank-n-furter and doesn't take it up the butt. Jessica Harper is also a much cooler, sexier Janet.
visionaryzzz 3 years ago
i've never seen shock treatment but I do go to rocky regularly. Shock treatment doesn't seem..great? I'm not a middleschooler or middle aged freak, i'm a highschool social butterfly, so yea; shoot yourself WITHOUT the timewarp.
RantsOfABombshell 3 years ago
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Hehe this is pretty good. Men run things in this world, and that's the only way it should be. Women back to the kitchen!!
ghostfacee 3 years ago
^_^ Please go screw youself. ^_^
Daiqui 3 years ago
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Shock treatment doesn't even come close toe Rocky Horror in any defining terms at all. It's quite literally a piece of shit, so sad to say.
Drewsel 4 years ago
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Rocky Horror Picture Show is for suburban middle schoolers and middle aged freaks anyway. I'll shoot myself the next time I hear the Time Warp.
danielburk 3 years ago
the first time i saw it i thought it was really bad compared to RHPS. but a friend pointed out (they said on the extra features) that you shouldn't think of it as a "sequel" but just another movie (i mean related to it but not a "Rocky Horror 2"). and if you think of it like this its a really good movie =O and the songs are just as good =]
wehippos 3 years ago
Agreed!
Daiqui 3 years ago
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Shock treatment doesn't even come close toe Rocky Horror in any defining terms at all. It's quite literally a piece of shit, so sad to say.
Drewsel 4 years ago
Is the person in the red dress/black hat at 53-57 a male or female???
dstevenslsw 4 years ago 2
@dstevenslsw Go and watch "Denton, Denton". There is a scene you can see that face closer. So in my opinion it´s definetly a woman.
m1jo 1 year ago
@dstevenslsw You should watch "Denton, Denton". There is a scene you can see that face closer. It´s a female.
m1jo 1 year ago
@dstevenslsw female
FatPopCorn 1 year ago
I can't get enough. This song repeats in my head on some idle Tuesday afternoon @ work.
LiteraryDreams 4 years ago 5
@LiteraryDreams me too! lol
ElectrickDragon 1 year ago
And no that's not John Candy on the left at 1:00 :)
shrinkingvideo 4 years ago
Thank God I'm a man.
LiteraryDreams 4 years ago
I agree with every single word in this song. There aren't any real men anymore.
timfortune9 4 years ago
You mean men like Richard the Lionheart, Montgomery Cliff, Rock Hudson and Kerwin Matthews you mean?
Elric33239 4 years ago
yes it is, but i still wanna see the full movie
BenDempster 4 years ago
did he say faggots are maggots ?
BenDempster 4 years ago
Of course it's pathetic! It's suppose to be a parody of The Conservative Macho Male! It's a brilliant reverse of "In Just 7 Days I Can Make You A Man!" from RHPS! If Dr. Frankenfurter's mockery of Rocky's exercise regimen could be played opposite this, they would both deliver the same message: manhood is a subjective term and it's ridiculous to define it by personal preferences! Another O'Brien masterpiece! He and Richard Hartley are definitely the Gilbert & Sullivan of the rock-n-roll age!
Elric33239 4 years ago 40
I agree with the above poster, O'Brien is just kinda poking fun at how "manhood" is represented. This movie is ahead of its time, take nowadays to be a real man, you must be a body building athlete!
MajorPublic 4 years ago 3
I agree with you. There are so many ways people act that you can't let stereotypes or expectations define what makes a man. I personally think that what makes a real man is someone who's responsible capable and who is an overall good person.
Domeneph 3 years ago
But aren't you defining manhood by YOUR personal preferences? Couldn't your description apply to a woman as well as a man?
Elric33239 3 years ago
true and you make very good points, and I would like to take this time to expound upon my original statement. You have to find out what being a man means for yourself and apply it to YOURSELF, don't persecute others for their views on manhood. I was just offering my two cents on the matter nothing more or less. If you want to apply it to yourself fine, if not I won't care. And yes I suppose that my original statement could apply to a women, but I think becoming a real man (or women) is about
Domeneph 3 years ago 3
becoming an adult, not based on gender roles. Again This is just my opinion and I'm not trying to force it on anyone, I just want to share it in a calm and civilized manner.
Domeneph 3 years ago 2
Understood. I was just making the point that it's a common, human flaw to confuse the term "real man/woman" and "IDEAL man/woman." Few people that I've known qualify as IDEAL, myself included. As for REAL, I still maintain that this is a subjective term regardless of sexual and esthetic preferences. My view. Yours may vary, as is your priviledge.
Elric33239 3 years ago 2
Of course, I was using ironic humour regarding IDEAL. I should have used a smiley when I wrote that, I suppose.;)
Elric33239 3 years ago 2
it was funny, :) and you make very good points.
Domeneph 3 years ago 2
@BenDempster And it loses all merit once you know who wrote the song
TheFragglesrocked 1 year ago
@BenDempster
yes he did ,your suppose to hate his character.It's anti-gay ,anti-women ,racist.
shocktreatmenthead 1 year ago
Kick ass!
MajorPublic 4 years ago
thank god ima man
malkolm789 4 years ago