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  • idk y people think ravens arent good for pvp its all in ur setup implants and skills. i like my raven with all skills to with the exception of cruise missile spec 5 i get 4092 dps and a firing rate of 6.52 sec out of my T2 cruise of course thats also having all the +5% cruise missile implants and my tank holds up very well using the HG crystal set so yea i have some isk tied up in my head but its worth it when u find urself in a jam

  • what was this for a song?

  • I would like to add to this, that the raven is probably ratting fit, however living in 0.0, the only fit ever should be a pvp fit. and imo, that raven would ahve stomped if it dumped the web for a heavy neut and a med nos in the last 2 highs, eyah the mega had a booster, but that only buys him a little time, but its, I have found, never enough. Another thing going in the mega's favor, most raven pilots are fucking noobs and dont know how to use them anyway. eve = 30% ship/sp and 70% player

  • Buffer fit raven = fail

  • @jnrivers I beg to differ I have gone 1v1 with every bs and bc with my buffer fit trop raven and have lost only once and that was to a triple time rematch hyperion that was refitting specifically to take me on till eventually he beat me with only 5% hull remaning. And that kill really only says that they were pretty much equal concidering thats such a clsoe kill that it could have simply came down to a nice crit with his guns since it was all down to who got the last shot.

  • @Corinth12821 Then you must be an exceptional Raven pilot.

  • What is your views on ammo needed for Hybrids ? I use tungsten at the moment for the added ranges.

  • aah olden times when megas coud do things

  • Raven should know how to keep distance, for heaven sake...

    Megathron is too brutal for raven anyway, even though i prefer calderi.

  • Damn, change that crap music!

  • @greedoface it's meant to be Annoying xD

  • haha nice !!!! <3

  • PVP in a raven.... oh deary me.... i hate being caldari.

  • Hehe hes friend warped off xD And that raven even didn't have a point

  • Music EPIC FAIL!!!

  • Music was crap...

  • Raven pilot fails....

  • i kill mega 1v1 in my torp raven with target painter and my drones dmg his drones but i must say he could have escape

  • i hate you people for crapping the nice eve vidz with this fucked up punk metal rock shit or whatever it is :(

  • yep ravens are good but not good enough for the megathron! woot woot.

  • Can someone tell me plz the song name?

  • im not suprised thats a navy megathron

  • @Leothegreat thats the normal Mega retard the Navy Mega would of torn threw a raven in less then 20 secs

  • Silly Raven Never Even unloaded some Drones on him.

  • wow that poor raven didnt stand a chance against the king of pvp the megathron

  • i know they've updated this, but the asteriods look like coco puffs. :3

  • a megathron picked a fight with me and I wish I didn't already have a pirate in a cruiser on me already, thank god the guy in the megathron didn't pod me

  • I picked a fight with a megathron once, in lowsec. I regret it

  • @alphacide with what ship?

  • @coolcdy I was a noob back than, so I'm not sure. Some type of cruiser, I thought the pilot was afk because he didn't attack me for like 2 minutes as I worked on his shields. Turns out he was just messing with me.

  • 0 m/s vs Raven hurts you more than it hurts him :/

  • Crap music. You sir must be a emotional whiner

  • i had just gotten my Abaddon and could not yet use large weapons so i fit it with medium weapons and took it into a lvl 2 mission and just about lost it. i had like 50% structure left when my warp finally engaged.

  • lol complete noob

  • i was a noob.. but when i trained the right skills i tanked a lvl 4 blockade mission and ran it solo. the abaddon has a beastly tank when fit right. i also got a navy apoc but was scared to loose it when i took it into missions so i had it for a couple weeks then sold it. but the tank on that did very well.

  • lol i kno i kno

  • getting a navy issue ship (especially a navy issue battleship) is really scary taking it into missions solo unless you have back up. i think when i had mine i only took it out to maybe 2 or 3 solo lvl 4 missions and i almost lost it the last time. that is when i sold it and bought the armageddon, apocalypse, and abaddon. those ships are a lot easier and cheaper to replace then the navy apoc. it was hella scary when i almost lost it. i was like panicking when i got low in armor.

  • lol yeah but i would not have sold it i would have just train up my skills for it, then started to fly it

  • oh thats true. but i was already able to solo lvl 4 missions in all my battleships but i had the wrong tank fit when i almost lost my navy apoc. the lowest in ship health i have ever gotten was like 15% structure in my abaddon. that was scary. i volunteered to be the main tank in an all damage mission (i did not know it was all damage) i was told kin + therm. so i fit that and got warp scrammed and the scrammer finally died and my warp engaged when i was at like 15% structure

  • @roshawn1111

    I've been soloing lvl 4's for a month now in my Navy Issue mega. it eats them up

  • ah my bad, left my comment on your previous on and didn't see this one, haha. Good job getting it skilled and fitted! :)

  • That's why everyone always will recommend that you level up your supplemental skills before jumping into any big ship. A properly skilled cruiser can take you into *most* lvl 3 missions, not all, but quite a few of them. Also, large weapons are truly only going to be effective against cruiser/battleship size rats, those frigs will get you if you're not careful with large guns.  But work on your armor tanking first of all before you head back out with your Abaddon.

  • @1993futuremarine LOL, is that a joke?!

  • @ImpagliazzoBR no its not. got stuck on a structure, tripple webbed from stasis towers. short range medium weapons, medium t1 incorrect tank fit. i was less then a month old character. so i had no clue as to what the hell i was doing. but now i can solo a lvl 4 in my armageddon. so i have improved much. but havent played in like 2 years

  • @1993futuremarine Noobing out in EVE is very funny. My first BS was a Domi with medium weapons and a small shield booster. LOL

  • @ImpagliazzoBR LOL thats funny

  • @ImpagliazzoBR LOLOL? Even I wouldn't of put a small shield booster on a BS and I've done some very dumb things starting Eve. Lost so many destroyers in a single day.

  • @SpraxIAKS Shush... :)

  • XD raven got raped

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  • wow that if that raven was a pvp fit it would have clearly owned that mega

  • I actually held a mega for about 10 minutes once he was nearly into structure but I went down. Had high therm/kin resists but a capacitor that lasted 1min 30 sec. Pulsed the booster and kept shooting his drones. Those heavy drones do a lot of damage.

  • i knew the outcome of this fight just by looking at the title. it's very unlikely that a ratting raven brakes the tank of a mega.

  • im not smacking you, i beleive it, but doesnt a pvp generally win over a ratting fited ship?

  • doesn't have to be. if your ratting setup is very good and the pvp setup scks then the ratter could win. chances are small tho.

  • True to Gallente Design... Up close in you're face BLAASTINGG YO ASS

  • They create an in your face disgrace.

  • umm wtf i really dont get this video, does the raven blow up?

  • Of course it did

  • Im guessing that rokh was fit with 8 modulated deep core miner twos and 3 mining laser upgrades, hence the reason it warped off and left the raven to di.

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  • Left hand module on top rack, that looks like a warp scrambler to me. also on the raven target icon you can see 9 items - 7 guns, drones, and the scrambler.

    Although the module that intrests me is the one to the right of the cap booster.. is it a second rep (why wasnt it used?), a RR module (hunting solo with RR modules?) or even a HULL rep (WTF???)

  • It cannot be a hull rep as the mega only has 4 meds which are used.

    Im guessing its an RR as he only has 7 f its 8 highs up, although it could be a second rep as he has an empty slow next to his first rep, little intrigued to the lack of a damage control

  • Well any self respecting Megathron pilot (or short range battleship pilot) will have a MWD by default in PVP. So that's a null point really. Raven sucks ass, always has

  • Blaster mega is nasty at short range with out the mwd the raven had kill that bastard ages ago

  • its a mega cuz kronos only holds 4 guns

  • Love the way blasters look when they shoot

  • For PVP Megathron is an excellent ship, Raven was meant more for PVE (the raven line is king for pve)

  • Isn't this a Kronos? Not a Mega.....

  • This was posted back in 07. When marauders wasnt even thought about. Also a kronos can only use 4 turrets.

  • Look at the number of guns maybe? Its pretty obviously a mega.

  • Wasn't paying attention to that, it just looked a weird colour.

  • That's because it's the original "non-premium" graphics. A lot of ships used to look "kinda weird".

  • its a mega 7 weapons - kronos have 4

  • The Raven was dead after his shields were down.

    After a Caladari has lost his shields it's like a hot knife through butter.

  • yeah gallente power!!

  • if that rokh had stayed, it would have been a good fight.

  • that raven is not fitted for pvp but for pve he was ratting killing npcs.

    Still nice kill tho.

  • weird...that raven probably wasn't fitted well. it couldve easily taken down that mega

  • what is the megathron emiting at 0:44

  • thats torps hittin it!

  • Explosions :| lol

  • I just got a megathron, you could say i am a newbie. I wonder what i should fit on it. Should i use its launcher points?

  • No, you don't use the launcher points.

  • blasters all the way

  • You can't see shit in this video.

  • If that raven had tanked a bit longer it might have gotten you in structure atleast, lol.

  • The raven wasnt fitted for pvp

  • please...ravens cant tank? ive seen a raven tank 4-5 BCs and 2 frigs and not go below half sheilds

    you must not have fought a real raven...

    that was more like and PvE raven.

  • ravens arn't pvp ships well not very good ones they are more along the lines of fleet back up ships. and why didnt that rokh just warp back in at 100km to snipe the meg. and thats what caldaris are best for

    sniping and missles

  • the Rokh probably didnt warp back at 100km to snipe since its weapons (modulated mining laser 2's) only have a 10km range.

  • haha toy Dolls! awesome, btw what song? never heard that one. Anyway cool vid.

  • OMFG that music coud kill any ship !

  • This is the most annoying music I have ever heard in my entire miserable existence. Also, is this the classic graphics package? Never seen a golden mega before.

  • lol only 9year olds play wow

  • @ilikewarhammer lol, big talk from someone named ilikewarhammer. I play WoW, im 18, and the youngest person iv ever met in it was like 14

  • @flintrocks Your basing "big talk" based on my username? Man thats low....i dont play WoW anymore and when i user is ilikewarhammer, im not talking about the mmo. Look it up if need be.

  • @ilikewarhammer WOW = world of warcraft=faggy cartoon warhammer=warhammer 40k=awesome

  • What song?

  • A torp raven will killl a mega 1v1 , it will be very close but if all t2 and skills for t2 raven will do more dps ;)

  • Not true actually, you must be forgetting drones. Also, unless you have a target painters, torps will only do ~70% of the damage they say they will to a BS. With that taken into account, a mega will deal almost 500 dps more, or 200 more excluding drones.

  • 500 dps more , Unlikely , with capped skills it will be close but if Raven is using faction/t2 dps torps it will be close , im not talking a Carebear raven here im talking 3-4 BCU Tech 2 130,000 effective hp buffertank raven with 1 target painter ofcand just point no web

  • Again depends of the configuration of both ships...I myself use almoast 1100 shield tank (650 shield regenerated every second ) and 800 dps dmg but tru...it's a cal navy raven...what i would like to see is a good old fashion navy mega vs navy raven! :))

  • @toyd011 what setups are you comparing? my torp raven does 1158 dps? I want to see the BS, not just mega, that does 200-500 more dps than that. please demo. And thats WITH a perma running heavy neut and a med nos in my other 2 highs. Also has nearly 25.5k shields and a total ehp of 113k and a point. Nothing better than T2. (BTW I love all ships in eve and all have their role, I just really want to hear what your refering to...)

  • @Corinth12821 You have a target painter on that setup? Note the "unless you have a target painter." The mega setup I'm talking about is t2 fit (t1 rigs), no implants, 1 medium neut, heavy injector, point, web, 28.5k armor (100k EHP) 1360dps including drones (well 1336 with my skills). Mail me in game (Oniko Sengir) if you want to talk about fittings.

  • @toyd011 so what are you doing to net 28k armor with 100ehp AND 1360 dps, even with dread guristas antimatter, thats stilll only going to pull 1293 with max skills, unless of course you arent actuallying use T2, and are using faction mods or are factoring some implants of various types.... (again I love all ships, and fly them all aside from the titans, I have played long enough to tell you the tp doesnt matter vs other bs...)

  • hmm that raven must not have bs 5.. with bs 5 i get something like a 5.8 rate of fire

    his seems rather slow

  • lol this proves that tech 1 ravens are crap. the only raven that could stand up to a mega's armor tanking would have to be a faction or tech 2

  • pve - missiles ownes

    pvp - good dam blasters lol

  • Lol, after I saw the Megathron's shields give, I thought it was over. Forgot about them Gallente and thier armor tanking...

  • The Raven shoulda warped, you weren't equipped with a warp jammer but had a webber. Regardless the Raven is an idiot, he should have warped after his shields went. And yes a passive tank is much better for ganking than a active tanked mega.

  • So... what's the left-most item in high? Looks like a dist/scram.

  • it does, i thought warp jammers were mid slot

  • Yes they are. But once you're flying your ship, you can change the 'logical' position of your outfits to where ever you wish.

  • I don't understand why people move their slots around? That's only confusing or not...I just let them there where they are^^

  • If you use the Fn-keys to activate your outfits, it's faster/easier to activate everything when you don't have to hold-down a modifier.

  • you can move ur items around and oranize them how u want

  • warp jammer is in very left of the top row, pay attention before u, you call other people stupid or you end up looking stupid yourself

  • it was probs a rat...

  • Whoa my bad, i didn't notice that the video was from 2007. The PC I viewed it on is horrible and the monitor is worse, so NO i didn't see the friggin jammer in the HIGH slot.

    The Raven pilot got owned, and almost always will get owned by a megablaster/blasterthron that gets close enough. The lesson: Have back-up.

  • Anyone can reply to this message: I just got my megathron like about 4 days ago...I've been pretty clueless on what to fit on it...I would be more then happy if you would give me a great build for pvp or ratting...what ever. Thank you.

  • Dont take this the wrong way but if you're not sure about fitting then I'd leave the Mega in the station and practice fittings with a cruiser. In terms of PVP vs PVE (ratting), your setup will vary because they have different requirements and skills. For PVP you probably want an active tank and some real thought put into the rigs. For PVE you can normally get away with a passive tank. Fly safe.

  • Actually. Pretty much opposite. In a mission, for example a LVL 4 Angels Extravaganza, you are going to get tooled hard with a passive tank. On the flip side of that, in PVP with an active tank, you can't fit the Neutron IIs. You want to fly an active tanked ship in PVP, fly the Hyppie. Its a MUCH better active tank than the Mega. For pure gank though, a two plate neutron megathron is definately worthy of respect.

  • EVE is exciting and World acclaimed famous when Preparing for a fight, EVE is exciting after a fight (for new players mostly),

    BUT, eve is really really boring during a fight.

  • agree...raven nooby!got the shileds fast and then stayed at the same ammo type...a-a!

  • the mega is running 3 harders and i can bet 100 mil that the 3 hardners would have been EXP/THEM/KIN so his Resistances would have been pretty even across the board with "ironicaly" EM in this set up being the lowest. switching or not switching ammo would make little to no difference and possibly even be worse to a amour tank set up.

  • raven noob.

  • Caldari ships can't afford to lose their shields. They do, and it's game over.

  • well ive seen some nice rokhs that armor tanked and were nice....as for me i use a sniper rokh so well no shields or armor ll

  • @Spectre426 well you could say that about any race once amarr armors gone its the same deal good job on posting a bunch on nuthing

  • Mega rapes raven period... but only if it gets up close. If that raven is staying 20 km + distance the thronny is fucked.

  • nano raven ftw!

  • srry wrong vid

  • you should have instantly melted i mean cargo expanders

  • What was your fitting on the megethron?

  • A proper torp raven should have melted your shields in under 2 full volleys. I'm guessing he had a poor fit as well. If only he had buffer tanked..

  • where was the mega's armor tank

  • If you look closely, you'll see he only has one armour repper on :P

  • tech II?

  • mine was t2 for tank but t1 guns at this point

  • good stuff, im training for this ship, i have a CNR and i cant wait to pop a raven.

    U did well plus you was using T1 guns, Mr Raven must have been crying.

  • I love how a well skilled Blaster megathron pilot can usually drop a ravens shields b4 the raven drop his LOL

  • Well congrats, at least the raven put up a fair fight ... not sure why it didnt have any drones but ... I am guessing he was using EM torpedos, thats why he droped your shield so quickly and at the same time I am guessing that one of your hardeners was anti-EM thats why he couldnt scratch your armor?

  • Hm, well no the hardeners would have been exp,kin and thrm.

  • when the mega hited Armor

  • lol i did the same thing today,break up a raven

    but setup was a bit different i has 2 sieges on me and that raven was blue :D

  • This is the worst song i've ever heard

  • just notice that the raven wasnt using any drones :O Also he has a very bad tank, mine can tank up to 600dps :O

  • And a Mega can easy, easy dish out far more than 600 DPS. And I've once seen a Hyperion fit that sent out more than 1500 DPS :P

  • Are there any SHIPS here that can Fire when moving and can move fast(exept hyper jump)and hit fast? I'd like to try this game if there is any

  • There are some ships that can travel quite fast, but aside from orbiting your target at speed, the combat won't be much different from this video. You will still essentially activate your modules and wait. EvE isn't really an action game.

  • NO EXPLOSION :(

  • ur shield went down pretty fast, u mind tellin me wat missle launcher and missles he were using, thx

  • Shields will go down quick no matter what on a mega, but I think he was using explosive torpedoes.

  • hmm i still dont know why did Rokh didint returned to help raven.most probably megathron could pop

  • aww... boo fucking hoo

  • Give that stupid Raven a pasting! Yeah!

    Nicely done.

  • Nice armor tank.

  • im a WoW player and when i watch this all i see is two ships firing the same missiles at each other.. kinda boring and slow paced imo.

    can any EvE player tell me whats going on?

  • Eve pvp visually is less exciting. But it takes alot of thinking, timing and knowing whats going on to win in EvE. Agreed its kinda boring but if your interested in fleet warfare, eve is fun. Just takes some getting used to.

  • hard to explain, lets just say if u were in wow and your high level armor and ur charecter was at steak in a all or nothing fight. you lose, you lose all ur gear, and charecter. Thats how this is in a way. Hope that helps

  • Well said, just explains the huge risk PvP is in this game, puts other MMO's to shame.

  • yes, eve battles dont have blood and gore and guts, so visually could be better, but the game is fun, these are 2 BATTLESHIPS fighting, among the slowest ships, but they do have smaller ships in the game, like interceptors (kinda like fighters) cruisers, frigates ect that are more fast paced, and they probably werent moving much, because they are in an asteroid belt and would get bumped, which makes them easier targets. another thing, the megathron (our point of view)

  • was using guns, the battleship he was fighting was using missiles. also back to the part where they were in the asteroid belt, if they were fighting outside a station, chances are, the ships would probably have been moving (not the target ship as he was being webified, or slowed down) but our BS, maybe, check out the game, you can download the trial version, steep learning curve though, and dont get down if you get killed once or twice, in EVE, EVERYONE gets killed

  • ive lost 4 thoraxs for various reasons :D

  • Both ships, especialy the raven were poorly equiped. The raven only had 4 torpedo launchers for some reason, when it could mount 7 cruise launchers to greater efficiency. Also, you megathrone setup was a little weak, thumbs up for taking away the range of his missiles by getting close, otherwise you would probably die since he would outgun you at longer range.

  • Not sure why you say he was using 4 launchers, the reason 4 launchers appeared on the killmail was because this was before trinity and dropped items didn't show on mails. (so I think this was before the torp buff too) He also had 3 BCU's on. Also the Raven has 6 launcher slots, the navy issue is the one with 7.

    The setup is a bit weak, was designed more for gangs and had a remote rep and t1 guns because I couldn't use t2. I usually flew with 1 or 2 others.

    Thanks for the comment.

  • Weak blasterthron setup. But hey it got the job done, torp ravens do nasty DPS as it is.