one of these days....I hope to get to Scotland.. music is haunting ..my dream ,even tho ,I know will never happen ,is a redhead ,green eye'd scott's lass. well...one has to have dreams now ...dont they?
Scots Guards Pipes & Drums, 1950, was where I first heard this tune. A minor key tune but it never plays a minor 3rd. Always dances around it singing 4's and 2's but never the minor 3-'s the civilized world would do. 5,4,2,1 against a drone. --Who ARE these people?
Montrose was originally a Covenanter before he changed sides so originally had been in the Scottish army which defended Scotland against the English army of the Stuart monarch;but later he tried to raise an English army to invade Scotland on behalf of the Stuart monarch; but he never fought the invading army of Cromwell. He was already dead having been executed by the Scots for treason after leading an Irish and then a scandinavian invasions of Scotland!
Jacobites were led by Buchan and the Royalists by Livingstone. It was the Jacobites attempt at a revival after their defeat by the Cameronian Presbyterians at Dunkeld. Both sides were Scots and AFAIK there was no English involvement at all :-)
Well,well...for all these years I've been fooled by a song! The 'battle' of Cromdale was actually fought in 1689,40 years AFTER Montrose died. A few hundred Highlanders were routed by the Government forces fighting for King William the Third and the cause of James the Seventh lost forever. Along come the propagandists and change the defeat into a stunning victory! I used to sing this song with gusto away back in the 70's after being influenced a lot by the great Corries.Well,ignorance is bliss!
@jockhamish You're right. Historically the song makes no sense at all. In the song it has Scots led by Montrose (he'd have loved to have a had a large Scottish force but he couldn't raise massive support within Scotland and was actually involved in 3 largely foreign invasions of Scotland) fighting the English forces of Cromwell. Montrose never fought Cromwell and as you said they both lived long before the said battle in the song. Cromdale was a much smaller battle than the song suggests and the
@gaconnochie Nice to know someone is looking for the truth, thanks a lot...I'm getting worried about the way history is being changed and manipulated....look at the way the English dramatists are changing their history with their 'The Tudors' and 'The Other Boleyn Girl' by showing Henry VIII as being a romantic figure (with Black hair!) and as far as I'm concerned,Mel Gibson,great direct.or as he is,spoiled forever relations with the Scots and English people with his Hollywood-oriented Braveh.
@jockhamish To tell you the truth I don't really follow you on the Braveheart point. Yes of course much of it is nonsense but the main thrust of the story is real enough. That is the English, occupation, the uprising, initial success and ultimate betrayal and execution. Can't see that it has affected relations between Scots and English though! Yes people from other parts of the globe seem to get all wound up about it and you see daft comments on the net!
@gaconnochie more of a brief encounter.the scots saw they were outnumbered and withdrew after a short exchange.this song was written many yrs later.so the writer has taken liberty with history yes but a lot of ballads are the same.
@TheAltaltalt1 The Battle of Cromdale itself was Scots versus Scots though! The cavalry of the Scottish Govt forces made a surprise attack on the Jacobite forces and routed them sending them fleeing. Seemingly the misty conditions meant most could slip away in safety. There were no English involved. The song puts the battle at the end of the 1640s during the English Cromwellian invasion with Montrose fighting the English. Taking liberty is an understatement.
A celebration of a bloody rout instigated by Montrose and his cutthroat band of 2000 Irishmen and Highland mercenaries fighting in the name of a pompous Stuart king who was already doomed. For further information on the atrocities performed by this group of killers,read about the Battle of Aldearn.Let us not paint over the truth of our history.
@vlnvlaclogbaerhpno I think I got the wrong battle to make my point! I was thinking of the carnage that ensued when Montrose and his mercenaries swept through Argyll killing and plundering.This was followed by the horrific battle of Inverlochy in which raw levies were forced to stand against these men and were slaughtered. I have read about Montrose being the Great Hero of Scotland and may be he was in his time but he instigated a hell of a lot of senseless murder.I am not being political.
@65ninjabill No offence but Scotland & the Scots used to be proud of their high standards in education. Things have sadly slipped though. Please check your spelling before posting - a true Scot should be ashamed to post. I can not fault your sentiments though.
I saw Andy Stewart singing this song a few years ago and it was GREAT! It seemed like the walls were shaking and sparks were coming out of his guitar. It was the very best version of The Haughs O' Cromdale that I have ever heard. I hope that I will someday get a chance to see him sing this song again.
@albadubh: I opened for him and the Irish fellow Lunny who was rather quiet. I was just a child, maybe 15 -16 and they were so nice to me, I was tuning up out back behind the stage and playing away for quite a while when I turned around and they were standing behind me listening. I froze and thought maybe I was bothering them but they were so nice to me, oh keep playing he said. My timing was hidious back then I am sure it was painful to hear.
A battle took place on 30 April, 1690, in which a Jacobite force was routed on the low ground (haughs) at Cromdale in Morayshire by government forces. But then an unknown bard, unhappy with the story of a lost battle, added an exaggerated description of Montrose's victory over the Covenanters at Auldearn in 1645. Despite the muddled history and the fact that Montrose had been dead for 40 years before the conflict at Cromdale, the ballad remained popular.
Granted, but doubt many English fought on the Jacobite side, that's what makes it Scotland/England. The Jacobite line was almost exclusively highlander/irish/a few French.
I don't know correct me if I be wrong but i'm sure it was the duke of manchester that said they rise up for the Stuarts. In scotland the view was divided as it was mostly highland clans which took up the cause being mainly catholic, while lowland scotland was mostly Protestant, when prince charle called for recruits only 300 hundred at the most answered the call which worried even the prince
So it couldn't be Scotland-England then if there was exclusive highland/irish/french side to the Jacobites.The Highlands make up only part of Scotland
This is a huge myth perpetuated in Scotland today.Whether we like it or not Culloden was NOT Scotland-England.
If it WAS for Scotland,there would have been no Scotsmen on the Hanoverian side and tens of thousands more on the side of Charles Stuart.
It was a case of England ,with the help of like-minded Scots of finally ending the threat of a pro-Catholic French invasion of England from the north AND maintaining the Protestant religion in these islands
Many Scots,other than Highlanders,would have taken Stuart rule as a preference over the House of Hanover but on the same note many Scots would have been more than happy to fight against the Jacobites.
Not pitifully. Back then, to kill anyone of Cromwell's men was a victory. So, though many of the Scottish died, they took some down with them, so it was considered a victory. Considering the fact that the Scottish couldn't afford the weapons that the English had, it truly was a victory, even if all of them died, because they died with honor, and they died killing their enemies.
Just two months ago you said no battle ever took place at Cromdale, now you're trying to state facts about it? Yeah, Cromwell was dead, so was Montrose, but the battle still took place, and there was glory in killing the 100 or so English who attacked. And, you're confusing people. The Great Montrose died 40 years before the battle, Erlik(I call him that because he was evil) died 32 years before the battle. The battle that DID take place.
In fact, for such a minor battle, this was a battle that changed Scotland. When Scotland lost this battle, it put an end to the Rebellion. For someone who chooses to put Zulu in their screen name, I would have thought you'd know something about history..
there was an altercation in which i believe a few were killed.if the highlanders had engaged in battle they would have been slaughtered.the song was propeganda to encourage the highlabders in the rebellion of 1745
Andi M. Stewart! Legend!
septimusexsalto 2 months ago
one of these days....I hope to get to Scotland.. music is haunting ..my dream ,even tho ,I know will never happen ,is a redhead ,green eye'd scott's lass. well...one has to have dreams now ...dont they?
4everugly 3 months ago
Maist braw version ae haughs ae cromdale thits e'er bin sung
AN IT'S NO OAN ITUNES!
(it maun bi oan iTunes!)
superraptor65 4 months ago 3
Because clearly the Scottish soul sings! What I get is just longing to Scotland!!!
FairytaleIsland 5 months ago
Scots Guards Pipes & Drums, 1950, was where I first heard this tune. A minor key tune but it never plays a minor 3rd. Always dances around it singing 4's and 2's but never the minor 3-'s the civilized world would do. 5,4,2,1 against a drone. --Who ARE these people?
Dayepipes 5 months ago
The louder this song is played, the better it sounds.
GatesOfHell4 7 months ago 4
Is it weird that this song always makes me want to pick up a sword and charge into a bloody battle?
CharlieStanebayers 8 months ago
suidakra ftw
habitatnoah11 8 months ago
Montrose was originally a Covenanter before he changed sides so originally had been in the Scottish army which defended Scotland against the English army of the Stuart monarch;but later he tried to raise an English army to invade Scotland on behalf of the Stuart monarch; but he never fought the invading army of Cromwell. He was already dead having been executed by the Scots for treason after leading an Irish and then a scandinavian invasions of Scotland!
gaconnochie 9 months ago
Jacobites were led by Buchan and the Royalists by Livingstone. It was the Jacobites attempt at a revival after their defeat by the Cameronian Presbyterians at Dunkeld. Both sides were Scots and AFAIK there was no English involvement at all :-)
gaconnochie 9 months ago
great music! who would ever hate this.
12430978 10 months ago
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@12430978 "who would ever hate this" maybe historians? Though I agree it is a great sing and Stewart is immense :-)
gaconnochie 9 months ago
@gaconnochie screw the historians
12430978 9 months ago
@12430978 Eh! Have you seem Tam Devine? No thanks!
gaconnochie 9 months ago
Great song! Thanks for uploading!:)
tofthetrinity 11 months ago
Andy M. Stewart is my favourite Celtic singer. He's simply brilliant.
JimmySteller 11 months ago
jacobites no surrender
rabblue 11 months ago
scottland will win
mouser760 1 year ago
scottland will win
mouser760 1 year ago
This is a great version - are Silly Wizard still going?
Blacksquareable 1 year ago
@Blacksquareable ,I am afraid not, unless I am mistaken...
Davccelion 1 year ago
Well,well...for all these years I've been fooled by a song! The 'battle' of Cromdale was actually fought in 1689,40 years AFTER Montrose died. A few hundred Highlanders were routed by the Government forces fighting for King William the Third and the cause of James the Seventh lost forever. Along come the propagandists and change the defeat into a stunning victory! I used to sing this song with gusto away back in the 70's after being influenced a lot by the great Corries.Well,ignorance is bliss!
jockhamish 1 year ago
@jockhamish You're right. Historically the song makes no sense at all. In the song it has Scots led by Montrose (he'd have loved to have a had a large Scottish force but he couldn't raise massive support within Scotland and was actually involved in 3 largely foreign invasions of Scotland) fighting the English forces of Cromwell. Montrose never fought Cromwell and as you said they both lived long before the said battle in the song. Cromdale was a much smaller battle than the song suggests and the
gaconnochie 9 months ago
@gaconnochie Nice to know someone is looking for the truth, thanks a lot...I'm getting worried about the way history is being changed and manipulated....look at the way the English dramatists are changing their history with their 'The Tudors' and 'The Other Boleyn Girl' by showing Henry VIII as being a romantic figure (with Black hair!) and as far as I'm concerned,Mel Gibson,great direct.or as he is,spoiled forever relations with the Scots and English people with his Hollywood-oriented Braveh.
jockhamish 9 months ago
@jockhamish To tell you the truth I don't really follow you on the Braveheart point. Yes of course much of it is nonsense but the main thrust of the story is real enough. That is the English, occupation, the uprising, initial success and ultimate betrayal and execution. Can't see that it has affected relations between Scots and English though! Yes people from other parts of the globe seem to get all wound up about it and you see daft comments on the net!
gaconnochie 9 months ago 3
@gaconnochie more of a brief encounter.the scots saw they were outnumbered and withdrew after a short exchange.this song was written many yrs later.so the writer has taken liberty with history yes but a lot of ballads are the same.
TheAltaltalt1 9 months ago
@TheAltaltalt1 The Battle of Cromdale itself was Scots versus Scots though! The cavalry of the Scottish Govt forces made a surprise attack on the Jacobite forces and routed them sending them fleeing. Seemingly the misty conditions meant most could slip away in safety. There were no English involved. The song puts the battle at the end of the 1640s during the English Cromwellian invasion with Montrose fighting the English. Taking liberty is an understatement.
gaconnochie 9 months ago
Ah, Stewart amd Lunny of Silly Wizard. Brilliant musicians. Thanks for posting
voodoobaby405 1 year ago
A celebration of a bloody rout instigated by Montrose and his cutthroat band of 2000 Irishmen and Highland mercenaries fighting in the name of a pompous Stuart king who was already doomed. For further information on the atrocities performed by this group of killers,read about the Battle of Aldearn.Let us not paint over the truth of our history.
jockhamish 1 year ago
@jockhamish But the Scottish and Irish losses were five times that of the English, so what's your point?
vlnvlaclogbaerhpno 1 year ago
@vlnvlaclogbaerhpno I think I got the wrong battle to make my point! I was thinking of the carnage that ensued when Montrose and his mercenaries swept through Argyll killing and plundering.This was followed by the horrific battle of Inverlochy in which raw levies were forced to stand against these men and were slaughtered. I have read about Montrose being the Great Hero of Scotland and may be he was in his time but he instigated a hell of a lot of senseless murder.I am not being political.
jockhamish 1 year ago
Beautiful rousing piece of historical music
xxxx4thxjuly 1 year ago
@akropiss JUST STAY WHERE YOU ARE AND MAKE YOUR TERRITORY YOUR OWN.
19thepyrochilibean 1 year ago
@19thepyrochilibean its beautiful
copnite12342 1 year ago
@copnite12342 lol
19thepyrochilibean 1 year ago
u can never beat the Scottish accent
MrBonnyscotland 1 year ago
lets have an uprise again we got some scores to settle for our fourbears. i would gladley die for scotlands freedom.
65ninjabill 1 year ago
@65ninjabill No offence but Scotland & the Scots used to be proud of their high standards in education. Things have sadly slipped though. Please check your spelling before posting - a true Scot should be ashamed to post. I can not fault your sentiments though.
reb0118 1 year ago
@reb0118 And a truer-still Scot would've posted in Scots, not English. :P
Traitorfish 1 year ago
I saw Andy Stewart singing this song a few years ago and it was GREAT! It seemed like the walls were shaking and sparks were coming out of his guitar. It was the very best version of The Haughs O' Cromdale that I have ever heard. I hope that I will someday get a chance to see him sing this song again.
GreenLantern1916 1 year ago
cmon scots we will have our freedom some day nearly all our songs is about the english haughs o' cromdale, flower of scotland, scotland the brave
MrGfdjfd 1 year ago
Adore these traditional songs!!
pembridgegardens 1 year ago
What are the chords to this?
deathbybagpipes 1 year ago
I thought the Fiddler's Green version was good. This was... wow!!
InvaderJem 1 year ago
excellent version
rifleman1122 1 year ago
The groove is quite funky! Love this version! :)
thedragonb 1 year ago
long live SCOTLAND
halo32k7 1 year ago
we used to sing this at school its a sad and very very brave song
Beannacht Dé leat!
Annasavi 1 year ago
I reckon the best way for peoples to get grievences off is to marry. otherwise build something. Learn about the other beautiful people in the world.
Oi, chi dfoi bfty wht dre kij nyo hyt dyr gr.
Liquorish/MacKay. Oi, get yourself into the rocket, man.
eddie100 1 year ago
It's about a bloody game. No one really wins.
eddie100 1 year ago
The Corries do a very good version too.
Elderwilliam 2 years ago 2
witch movie ?
joclyne74 2 years ago
who sings this I wanna buy it
MrConcept12 2 years ago
The Singers names are Andy M. Stuart and Manus Lunny
drhikarisan 2 years ago
Andy Stewart sings this.
albadubh 2 years ago
@albadubh: I opened for him and the Irish fellow Lunny who was rather quiet. I was just a child, maybe 15 -16 and they were so nice to me, I was tuning up out back behind the stage and playing away for quite a while when I turned around and they were standing behind me listening. I froze and thought maybe I was bothering them but they were so nice to me, oh keep playing he said. My timing was hidious back then I am sure it was painful to hear.
pipes0987 1 year ago
A battle took place on 30 April, 1690, in which a Jacobite force was routed on the low ground (haughs) at Cromdale in Morayshire by government forces. But then an unknown bard, unhappy with the story of a lost battle, added an exaggerated description of Montrose's victory over the Covenanters at Auldearn in 1645. Despite the muddled history and the fact that Montrose had been dead for 40 years before the conflict at Cromdale, the ballad remained popular.
piper3116 2 years ago
This song is indeed muddled
This wasn't a Scotland/England battle
It was more of a Williamite/Jacobite battle where Scotsman fought on either side
wifeoffred 2 years ago
Granted, but doubt many English fought on the Jacobite side, that's what makes it Scotland/England. The Jacobite line was almost exclusively highlander/irish/a few French.
nacho1560 2 years ago
I don't know correct me if I be wrong but i'm sure it was the duke of manchester that said they rise up for the Stuarts. In scotland the view was divided as it was mostly highland clans which took up the cause being mainly catholic, while lowland scotland was mostly Protestant, when prince charle called for recruits only 300 hundred at the most answered the call which worried even the prince
spr65 2 years ago
So it couldn't be Scotland-England then if there was exclusive highland/irish/french side to the Jacobites.The Highlands make up only part of Scotland
This is a huge myth perpetuated in Scotland today.Whether we like it or not Culloden was NOT Scotland-England.
If it WAS for Scotland,there would have been no Scotsmen on the Hanoverian side and tens of thousands more on the side of Charles Stuart.
wifeoffred 2 years ago
My point was that very few English, if any, fought on Charlie's side. The majority of his forces were Scots.
The majority of Hanoverian forces were English, also most of the attrocities carried out were done by the English.
In my opinion it was just another example of the English keeping us in our place, this time using Scots lowland troops to aid them.
nacho1560 2 years ago
It was a case of England ,with the help of like-minded Scots of finally ending the threat of a pro-Catholic French invasion of England from the north AND maintaining the Protestant religion in these islands
Many Scots,other than Highlanders,would have taken Stuart rule as a preference over the House of Hanover but on the same note many Scots would have been more than happy to fight against the Jacobites.
frederickhermann 2 years ago
Just like Culloden then?
DonegalRaymie201 2 years ago
Excuse my ignorance, but can some body please tell me what band this is??
Doolkrank 2 years ago
It's Andy M. Stewart on "At it Again"
saleclair 2 years ago
Thank you kindly. Most appreciated.
Doolkrank 2 years ago
You are kindly welcome.
saleclair 2 years ago
Sillywizard: Andy Stweart, Failte =)
catholicrik 2 years ago
Yup Andy,look up fer' Silly Wizard too,he's the lead singer!
Slainte!
ceanadach 2 years ago
Brilliant! :-)
bloobear1 2 years ago
Does my MacGregor blood proud to here of honorable men in the lines past, even if they all died on the fields, better than dieing in a hole
shadehiker3 2 years ago
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W0W75391 2 years ago
So fuckin Epic!!!!!
Great song!!!
RetardWarrior 2 years ago 2
ALBA GU BRATH!!
Robertson, Fraser, Camren, Gunn, MacDonnald, MacGreggor, Stewart and all the clanns united under one flag!!!
catholicrik 2 years ago 2
fucking great,
greetings from germany
gkfmb 2 years ago 2
is this silly wizard?
rosswatt1979 2 years ago 5
It surely is.
diesundas 2 years ago
I love this song...
IsebelBerlin 2 years ago 5
This makes my Fraser blood sing! :)
xxoddkittenxx 2 years ago 4
told ya this never happened google it if y dinna believe me
mandazulu 2 years ago
yes the corrys alsow do a good cover and it stirs my scottish blood up lol
rootpummeler 2 years ago 4
poor Jacobites. at least they put up a stiff fight!! ya gotta respect that.
acerb45666555 2 years ago 4
but no battle ever took place at cromdale.its just a song
mandazulu 2 years ago
no a battle took place just they lost pitifully
GuitarRocker2008 2 years ago
Not pitifully. Back then, to kill anyone of Cromwell's men was a victory. So, though many of the Scottish died, they took some down with them, so it was considered a victory. Considering the fact that the Scottish couldn't afford the weapons that the English had, it truly was a victory, even if all of them died, because they died with honor, and they died killing their enemies.
Xzandarin 2 years ago
cromwell was dead 40 years when this battle didnt repeat didnt take place
mandazulu 2 years ago
Just two months ago you said no battle ever took place at Cromdale, now you're trying to state facts about it? Yeah, Cromwell was dead, so was Montrose, but the battle still took place, and there was glory in killing the 100 or so English who attacked. And, you're confusing people. The Great Montrose died 40 years before the battle, Erlik(I call him that because he was evil) died 32 years before the battle. The battle that DID take place.
Xzandarin 2 years ago
In fact, for such a minor battle, this was a battle that changed Scotland. When Scotland lost this battle, it put an end to the Rebellion. For someone who chooses to put Zulu in their screen name, I would have thought you'd know something about history..
Xzandarin 2 years ago
there was an altercation in which i believe a few were killed.if the highlanders had engaged in battle they would have been slaughtered.the song was propeganda to encourage the highlabders in the rebellion of 1745
mandazulu 2 years ago
BEST...ACCENT...EVER!!!!!
webvidseek 2 years ago 24
which accent is it??
M1k3L4wr3y 2 years ago 3
Scottish
webvidseek 2 years ago 13
this stirs the highlander heart in me.
celticgarrison 3 years ago 7
I love the accent <3 Great song ^-^
Heuchler333 3 years ago 7
Great! Who performs this?
TheBungachoo 3 years ago 6
Andy M Stewart,Manus Lunny
21641993 3 years ago