I wonder how they were able to learn such sophisticated brainwashing techniques. It's not that easy to brainwash someone into committing felonies and murder. I wonder how they got that training.
@tzuccolo2001 Remember that theres a decent chance that no brainwashing was involved - She could have actually come to agree with them. If it was, probably hypnotics and psychotropic narcotics.
I wonder how they were able to learn such sophisticated brainwashing techniques. It's not that easy to brainwash someone into committing felonies and murder. I wonder how they got that training.
This is very interesting, you can see the arrogant charisma that drew people in, and the total blindness that allowed them to rationalize their crimes. He can say he is sorry, but his whole attitude is that he has not renounced violence at all.
Bill Harris tries real hard to show that he is in control. The man is completely delusional. He has never been in control of anything in his life. He creates kayos and is in control? What a buffoon.
If I were Jon Opshal, I think I would object to Bill Harris calling me by my first name. I would also object to him calling me by my surname. I would object to him addressing me at all. Jon Opshal is a better man than I am for tolerating Bill's matter-of-fact, "tell-it-like-it-is," rambling, shrugging bullcrap lecture. It's satisfying to listen to Jon's sharply contrasted response: a cogent, intelligent, truthful, and very generous reply.
Bill Harris, while "lying low" in 1974, was caught shoplifting a trivial item from Mel's Sporting Goods in LA, thus blowing the SLA's cover and leading to the famous shootout where six of his "comrades" died. You might think that he'd be mortified, even thirty years later, by his own stupidity, but no, he's still shrugging it all off. It's also worth mentioning that it was Emily who actually shot Myrna Opshal, and her tears might be real, or might be just more of her special brand of deceit.
Yeah, he tried to liberate a pair of socks, got caught but luckily the brainwashed heiress saved them by opening fire on the fascist insects who sell socks.
Then you would have to include in this poorly considered refrain; the French Revolution and all other uprisings such as the Cuban Revolution as "odious"?
Having met Bill Harris and his wife while exploring the motives of my major advisor from Oberlin, I can't say that he is as unlikable as to warrant what would please you. This isn't to hesitate in re-iterating that if he were black he would have been treated differently. Perhaps we'd have seen Bill's teeth being identified in a pile of ashes. I would sumbit that as long as our justice system is as broken as it is, we will remain in the "land of De Freeze" as opposed to where I'd like to live.
I think you meant to say you aren't eloquant by using big words when you can't string them together "proper-like." Be folksy be keen! You is a salad ain't you?
Playing God was what the SLA were doing, and espousing phony revolution. The simple fact that they went after a Hearst made the whole thing questionable given that not all people of wealth are as foul and nasty as some factions make them out to be. George Hearst when he was operating the largest gold mine in the western hemisphere was quite outspoken that he felt there was a responsibility that comes with power. He built tne mining school at Berkeley to spread the wealth not squander it. Ironic.
The sad fact of this variety of justice and the ensuing circus - now reopening starring arthritic elephants jumping through flaming hoops, is that Sara Jane never won the status of the others in Patty's book now proven to be quite accurate in it's account. I'd add that her co-author's book Collision Course about the Andrea Dorea and the Stockholm is as accurate as Every Secret Thing. I recommend both books for some interesting reading. "Violence is the refuge of the incompetent." Isaac Asimov.
Sweet old lady? She used to go to my gym, with an outside trainer (robing the fitness chain), and claim she wasn't getting training. We referred to her trainer as "Goober Trainer", and/or "Trainer To The Stars".
There was a document that had the SLA visiting someone in a California jail when they were in fact robbing the bank in Carmichael. It worked to create enough doubt to let him and Emily walk for murdering Myrna Opsahl. What Bill Harris failed to digest once the government reopened the case and proved that document was a forgery, is that he became an accessory to at least 2nd degree Murder. His concern is the it was his ex who bungled the shotgun not he.
Bill is right. Opsahl will feel little satifaction unless the former is water boarded until he admits he was a violent and unsavory little power-grubber posing as a revolutionary. A little monster is still a monster and requires no monsterizing. If Harris were black he'd be on death row. He'd have been there thirty years ago.
Notice how all of their statments were about how they feel and how they are affected. Criminals like these don't even know that they do that (that they are like that). They don't see that they are actually different from most people. Normal people can usually see the strange self-serving egos in these monsters but for some reason these types of criminals think they are like everyone else...so weird.
No humility, no sorrow over his actions...Harris wants us to feel bad for his kids that's he's going to prison? Puleeze...What a rambling bunch of self serving nonsense.
Bill Harris is a jerk.
sugarpiemeowmix 4 months ago
What a turd..him, Emily and Patty should all be dead.,.if I got convicted of Murder, Robbery I think I'd get a little more than 6 years.,.
BennyBlancofromBX 8 months ago
The SLA was right.
Look at the system today and you will agree.
George Vreeland Hill
GeorgeVreelandHill 11 months ago
Without my belief in a just God, I would go insane.
IrishFrisco 1 year ago
I wonder how they were able to learn such sophisticated brainwashing techniques. It's not that easy to brainwash someone into committing felonies and murder. I wonder how they got that training.
tzuccolo2001 1 year ago
@tzuccolo2001 Remember that theres a decent chance that no brainwashing was involved - She could have actually come to agree with them. If it was, probably hypnotics and psychotropic narcotics.
Estocavio 1 year ago
I wonder how they were able to learn such sophisticated brainwashing techniques. It's not that easy to brainwash someone into committing felonies and murder. I wonder how they got that training.
tzuccolo2001 1 year ago
This is very interesting, you can see the arrogant charisma that drew people in, and the total blindness that allowed them to rationalize their crimes. He can say he is sorry, but his whole attitude is that he has not renounced violence at all.
calamagrostis88 1 year ago
Unbelievable! What a rambling, pompous, self-serving, piece of shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10xjava 1 year ago
Bill Harris tries real hard to show that he is in control. The man is completely delusional. He has never been in control of anything in his life. He creates kayos and is in control? What a buffoon.
ridleyrichard 2 years ago 2
If I were Jon Opshal, I think I would object to Bill Harris calling me by my first name. I would also object to him calling me by my surname. I would object to him addressing me at all. Jon Opshal is a better man than I am for tolerating Bill's matter-of-fact, "tell-it-like-it-is," rambling, shrugging bullcrap lecture. It's satisfying to listen to Jon's sharply contrasted response: a cogent, intelligent, truthful, and very generous reply.
cellovid 2 years ago
Bill Harris, while "lying low" in 1974, was caught shoplifting a trivial item from Mel's Sporting Goods in LA, thus blowing the SLA's cover and leading to the famous shootout where six of his "comrades" died. You might think that he'd be mortified, even thirty years later, by his own stupidity, but no, he's still shrugging it all off. It's also worth mentioning that it was Emily who actually shot Myrna Opshal, and her tears might be real, or might be just more of her special brand of deceit.
cellovid 2 years ago
Yeah, he tried to liberate a pair of socks, got caught but luckily the brainwashed heiress saved them by opening fire on the fascist insects who sell socks.
elmo61 2 years ago
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cellovid 2 years ago
Is there anything more odious than spoiled whiteness Rising Up?
What a bunch of solipsistic shit-faces...
cantilever 2 years ago 3
This is one of my favorite comments on the SLA. I've quoted it often in the past few days. Hilarious and true.
joyegreg 2 years ago
@cantilever Brilliant comment.
IrishFrisco 1 year ago
@cantilever
Then you would have to include in this poorly considered refrain; the French Revolution and all other uprisings such as the Cuban Revolution as "odious"?
ph03n1xamb1t 5 months ago
@ph03n1xamb1t Speaking of poorly considered refrains...
cantilever 5 months ago
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@cantilever
... you have just given one. Do not converse with your intellectual superiors.
ph03n1xamb1t 5 months ago
The SLA are described as 'Terrorists'? We call people who want to free us 'terrorists'? But not the corporations that rape us.
C4Jake 3 years ago
You have been raped by a corporation? Just out of interest: which one? Starbucks? Walmart? Google? And how did that happen exactly? I'm curious.
And you seriously believe the SLA wanted to free you? Maybe you believe that the Manson family wanted to free you, too, do you?
sircurtisseretse 3 years ago 2
They sure freed Myrna Opsahl, didn't they?
cantilever 2 years ago
What an arrogant son of a bitch.
He should be taken out behind the court and struck in the head numerous times with a ball pen hammer..
He's not sorry, and never will be.
jvespa1 3 years ago 2
amen!
tastysalad 3 years ago
I believe you meant a ball peen hammer. I get criticised for my writing while others write sentence fragments, and get away with it.
yogione 3 years ago
someones just a LITTLE obnoxious.
tastysalad 3 years ago
DEATH PENALTY TO SLA!
raincrowd 3 years ago 2
Having met Bill Harris and his wife while exploring the motives of my major advisor from Oberlin, I can't say that he is as unlikable as to warrant what would please you. This isn't to hesitate in re-iterating that if he were black he would have been treated differently. Perhaps we'd have seen Bill's teeth being identified in a pile of ashes. I would sumbit that as long as our justice system is as broken as it is, we will remain in the "land of De Freeze" as opposed to where I'd like to live.
yogione 3 years ago
what kind of rambling piece of shit was that?you arent eloquant by using big words if you cant string them together properly!!
tastysalad 3 years ago
Eloquant?
yogione 3 years ago
I think you meant to say you aren't eloquant by using big words when you can't string them together "proper-like." Be folksy be keen! You is a salad ain't you?
yogione 3 years ago
ooohhh trying to use the ignorant redneck stereotype eh?
tastysalad 3 years ago
Ooooh trying to act self righteous and bigger than God, eh?
yogione 3 years ago
Playing God was what the SLA were doing, and espousing phony revolution. The simple fact that they went after a Hearst made the whole thing questionable given that not all people of wealth are as foul and nasty as some factions make them out to be. George Hearst when he was operating the largest gold mine in the western hemisphere was quite outspoken that he felt there was a responsibility that comes with power. He built tne mining school at Berkeley to spread the wealth not squander it. Ironic.
yogione 3 years ago 2
Wouldn't it be delightful if stereotypes didn't have representatives?
yogione 3 years ago
cept im not white so you fail in that respect.
tastysalad 3 years ago
Sara Jane is free.
witchman1 3 years ago
she was rearrested, i think
neve1073 3 years ago
lol you are correct.
witchman1 3 years ago
The sad fact of this variety of justice and the ensuing circus - now reopening starring arthritic elephants jumping through flaming hoops, is that Sara Jane never won the status of the others in Patty's book now proven to be quite accurate in it's account. I'd add that her co-author's book Collision Course about the Andrea Dorea and the Stockholm is as accurate as Every Secret Thing. I recommend both books for some interesting reading. "Violence is the refuge of the incompetent." Isaac Asimov.
yogione 3 years ago
Ol Emily looks like a sweet old lady who should be home baking cookies.
Hard to believe what a tyrant she was in her SLA days
Rusfi7 4 years ago 2
Sweet old lady? She used to go to my gym, with an outside trainer (robing the fitness chain), and claim she wasn't getting training. We referred to her trainer as "Goober Trainer", and/or "Trainer To The Stars".
MrBodyShots 3 years ago
Bastards! i feel so much RAGE towards these sub-humans. what a sorry piece of S*** Bill and they rest of em were/are. burn in HELL!
idiggravez 4 years ago
There was a document that had the SLA visiting someone in a California jail when they were in fact robbing the bank in Carmichael. It worked to create enough doubt to let him and Emily walk for murdering Myrna Opsahl. What Bill Harris failed to digest once the government reopened the case and proved that document was a forgery, is that he became an accessory to at least 2nd degree Murder. His concern is the it was his ex who bungled the shotgun not he.
yogione 4 years ago
Bill is right. Opsahl will feel little satifaction unless the former is water boarded until he admits he was a violent and unsavory little power-grubber posing as a revolutionary. A little monster is still a monster and requires no monsterizing. If Harris were black he'd be on death row. He'd have been there thirty years ago.
yogione 4 years ago
Notice how all of their statments were about how they feel and how they are affected. Criminals like these don't even know that they do that (that they are like that). They don't see that they are actually different from most people. Normal people can usually see the strange self-serving egos in these monsters but for some reason these types of criminals think they are like everyone else...so weird.
gscott48 4 years ago
An extra Y chromosome perhaps?
yogione 4 years ago
this bastard needs to rot in hell!!!!
dwood37 4 years ago
No humility, no sorrow over his actions...Harris wants us to feel bad for his kids that's he's going to prison? Puleeze...What a rambling bunch of self serving nonsense.
elaine31347 4 years ago 3