Only a REAL FOOL would claim there is no God! Man creates awesome skyscrapers, fake hearts, tunnels, vehicles etc.. If we are very imperfect then what more can God create THE UNIVERSE! You must accept Jesus Christ as your Savior to receive eternal rest in heaven! Simple! John 3:16 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him! Repent & accept Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ or HELL?!? Visit cbn. com
@tigersforchrist wait. Are you actually arguing that a god exists because we build some cool stuff? You aren't providing a shed of evidence of creation with that. In fact the items you give are much more purpose orientated and wouldn't have the inefficiency problems our universe has like limited human senses, junk DNA, genetic disabilities, and most of the universe being deadly to the humans it was supposedly made for. The universe is far more like a thing made without will or direction.
@1237fa So we find ourselves in a bit of tautological pickle. What you are essentially saying is, 'People who deal with the issue of religion rationally and intelligently are intelligent."
ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
SCIENCE SHOWS THE UNIVERSE could not have been active eternally because of entropy (energy decay, even in an open system). Einstein confirmed that space, matter, time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
CREATIONISTS RIGHT ABOUT ENTROPY (Internet Article): Entropy occurs in both open and closed systems. In every transfer of energy some of the energy becomes useless. Given enough time, all of the energy becomes useless and the universe cannot be sustain any activity. Even in an open system, there must first exist an energy-converting, directing mechanism to develop order, such as when a seed becomes a tree. Spontaneous order from chaos is not possible, not to any significant degree.
EINSTEIN CONFIRMED that space and time are just as physical as matter. That's why space and time can be altered by gravity, and space produces particles. Einstein's equations show that the universe couldn’t be eternal. It had a beginning. Einstein believed, because of science, in the existence of God behind the origin and order of the universe. He didn't believe in a personal God like Christians do, but he did believe science pointed to the existence of an all powerful and intelligent Creator.
First of all, science has not confirmed that the universe had anything called a "beginning" so much as it has confirmed that it was once radically different.
Einstein had an open mind and considered many different theories about the universe, including the "cyclical" models, which state that the universe has no real beginning, and is instead oscillating between "big bangs" and "big crunches."
That is, the universe occasionally collapses before expanding again, like a balloon.
Regardless though, "Einstein believed it" is hardly a convincing argument. Yes, he was genius, but that doesn't mean he was always right. Hell, he bounced back and forth between considering a created universe, a universe that "just happens" without intelligent design, a universe that has a clear beginning and end, and an infinite universe. All the ideas fascinated him, and he never accepted any of them as absolute truth, nor did he shrug them off.
@TheMathShaman ignore Mogley. This person has no intention of having a conversation. He/she goes from video to video spam-posting that entire sequence of prepared (and demonstrably incorrect) comments with no intention of even attempting to defend any challenges to this dissinformation.
@Mogley52 Einstein is not the emperor of science.. Just like Freud is not the emperor of psychology. Just because Einstein said it doesn't mean it's true. Science doesn't point to an intelligent creator just because we don't know how we got here. You can't just draw a conclusion out of nothing just because you don't have the answer right now. "I don't know" is a perfectly good answer. We DON'T know! Just admit it! Why do people have to act like they know everything all the time?
@lasoogneypubes I agree, but isn't it obvious why some claim to know everything all the time? It gives power over the gullible, the dumb, the ignorant, the lazy and the careless and let me tell you, that's about 90% of all humans. Imagine that, having power over billions of brainwashed drones to do thy bidding. Just look at small African villages where shahmen accuse kids of witchcraft and ritually murder them. Anyone who dares to interfere is also accused and murdered.
NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How did species survive if their vital tissues, organs, reproductive systems were still evolving? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic and biological similarities between species.
ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) in nature is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news concerning genetics, fossils, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit Institute for Creation Research.
WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! This Internet article describes how evolutionary scientists are disagreeing over all the "evidence" traditionally used to support macro-evolution. I have given over a dozen lectures, including before evolution science faculty and students, refuting macro-evolution. At the end I would answer questions and arguments from the audience. The science faculty was mostly silent. They knew enough science to understand what I was saying was true.
EXPLAINING HOW AN AIRPLANE WORKS doesn't mean no one made the airplane. Explaining how life or the universe works doesn't mean there was no Maker behind them. Natural laws explain how the order in the universe works, but mere undirected natural laws can't explain the origin of that order. Once you have a complete, living cell then the genetic code/mechanisms exist to direct the formation of more cells, but how did the cell naturally originate when no directing code/mechanisms existed in nature?
NATURAL SELECTION IS NO BLIND WATCHMAKER because it can only "select" traits, not produce them. If a trait survives, that survival is called being "selected." Natural selection operates only once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't have been involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it alive! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creatures anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged-pawed dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
@Mogley52 dont worry by sticking to the heresay from thousands of years ago you will be done with this horrible world when you go to the real life after you've been buried in the ground
GENETIC AND BIOLOGICAL SIMILARITIES are better explained due to a common Designer Who designed similar functions for similar purposes in the various forms of life. Genetic information can't happen by chance, so this is the best explanation. So-called junk DNA is not junk. These "non-coding" segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression (how, when, and where genes are expressed in the body). Read my Internet article WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
THE SCIENCE SUPPORTING CREATION (Google this title to access the site). The site presents a collage of evidences from science supporting creation and refutes arguments by evolutionists (i.e. "flaws" in design of human eye, "junk" DNA, embryonic recapitulation, age of the earth, fossils, etc., etc.). Also, read my Internet article ANY LIFE ON MARS CAME FROM EARTH. In the Earth's past, powerful volcanic activity spewed life-containing dirt into space very possibly reaching Mars.
I define religion a bit more loosely than the layman. Religion is any system of beliefs that the adherents of zealously force on others in an unmitigated frenzy. Those who fail to see their hypothetical enlightenment are at the very least worthy of their spite and scorn for simple disagreements.
This can make candidacies (Paul, Obama), political beliefs, fan bases, and indeed Atheism a religion for most of you. For me English grammar and spelling are my God and the internet is full of infidels.
@GrammarNaziFoxGirl So you worship the grammar and spelling accepted by the majority of anglophones (aspects of our language which are usually only superficially meddled with) but you've decided that lexicon is completely dependent upon individual interpretation. You may choose to see religion however you like but the word (at this moment) is a signifier with a specific meaning, "the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power..." I believe the word you're looking for is orthodoxy.
a few hundred years ago, people would burn some one on the stake simply because they didn't understand them. like joan of arc.
if you showed one of those people back then an i pod, it wouldn't make any sense to them and they would probably kill you and smash the ipod on a rock. this relates to how people don't think god makes sense. we have A LOT to learn, and not believing in something just because it doesn't make sense, wont get us far.
@callum1131 Ignorant people like you deserve ignorant replies. Quit bugging other people just because you can't come up with a better contridiction. Oh yeah, and while you're at it, go stick a fork up your butt and rotate on it. >:P
Dr. Harold Morowitz, former professor of biophysics at Yale University, estimated that the probability of the formation of the smallest, simplest form of living organism known is 1 out of 10^340 million
The very popular evolutionist, Dr. Carl Sagan of Cornell University, figured even steeper odds against the simplest life beginning naturally on a planet such as earth. According to him, the probability would be about 1 out of 10^2 billion
You believe in your apes fairytale, I believe in mine.
@ahmadaz96001 and you know why Morowitz had to ESTIMATE such a figure? Because nearly every point of his equation is fabrication. No data upon which such a probability could be calculated actually exists. If you think it does, why not cite the equations he used to reach that figure?
He was speculating blindly based on personal opinion...not on actual, publishable research.
@ahmadaz96001 and please cite the source of this probability anywhere in any of Sagan's work.
"You believe in your apes fairytale, I believe in mine"
Luckily, our "apes fairytale" doesn't require belief. Its supported by literally hundreds of thousands of published, peer reviewed research papers, independantly verifiable observation and documentation and well over 95% of the scientific community.
Please cite a single published research paper demonstrating your fairy tale.
@stiimuli Carl Sagan - Communication with Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence (MIT Press, 1973)
Other example;
Gerald Schroeder - In The Science of God: The Convergence of Scientific and Biblical Wisdom by Gerald Schroeder (Free Press, 1997). He states one of the highest mathematical possibility for evolution with 1 out of 10^850.
Mathematically, even that, the highest chance of evolution happening is also next to impossible.
Yes, it's just another fairytale, except with apes in it.
@ahmadaz96001 How can you make a mathematical possibility calculation of evolution when you only have 1 planet in the universe to gather data from? Its also highly biased coming from someone like that, making the entire book/calculation extremely unscientific and will not be taken seriously by anyone. And regardless of how improbable evolution might be, its still true. Because evolution happens, and there is overwhelming amounts of evidence to support it.
@ahmadaz96001 I'm sorry, I'm not finding the statement of Sagan's to which you are referring. It would help if you could provide a page number, paragraph and the calculations by which this assertion was made.
and just like your referance to Morowitz, Shroeder's book is not published, peer reviewed research...its an opinion piece. The figures he uses for these calculations are COMPLETE speculation not based on any real-world data.
Anyone can write book claiming anything they want.
@ahmadaz96001 "Mathematically, even that, the highest chance of evolution happening is also next to impossible."
Even if these calculations of probability were accurate (which they aren't) statistically improbable events occurr EVERY DAY. Flip a coin in the air and let it fall on the ground. Do you have any idea the ASTRONOMICAL odds of that coin coming to rest exactly where it did? Its utterly incalculable...yet it did land there.
@ahmadaz96001 "Yes, it's just another fairytale, except with apes in it."
Don't think I didn't notice how you completely ignored my point that this "fairy tale" is supported by hundreds of thousands of published, peer reviewed research papers, numerous observations and documentations and nearly 100% of the scientific community.
Its this very point which creationists simply can not circumvent. Evolution is a reality just like gravitation is a reality. There's no way around it.
@stiimuli Can you name me a scientist who manage to turn "a bag of amino acids" into polypeptide chain that can fold into a functional protein, without external help?
It would require a time longer than the age of the universe itself for those amino acids to arrive at its correct native conformation and form one single functional protein, let alone form a simplest living organism with 200+ proteins.
@ahmadaz96001 "Can you name me a scientist who manage to turn "a bag of amino acids" into polypeptide chain that can fold into a functional protein, without external help?"
That's not evolution. Don't start with the strawmen. You're obviously referring to abiogenesis which is nowhere near as well supported as evolution (yet still a promising field).
Evolution deals with the genetic change over time of existing populations of life.
@ahmadaz96001 "It would require a time longer than the age of the universe itself for those amino acids to arrive at its correct native conformation and form one single functional protein, let alone form a simplest living organism with 200+ proteins."
and by what method have you detirmined how long such a process would take? We already know that polynulceotide chains can form on their own in certain compounds (montmorillonite clay for example) under the right conditions.
Except that repeated experiments have shown that it IS possible. I find it baffling that anyone could continue to assert something cannot happen when the publish research shows that it does.
Its like continuing to assert we never landed on the moon when man-made equipment and footprints can still be seen there!
@stiimuli I don't know Russian but I'm pretty sure that paper wasn't even talking about any functional proteins. That paper was about peptides. Even 2 monomers can be considered peptides. That was lame.
And that paper shows huge probability of some other random useless molecules formed from the process naturally, and those were the reason the chance that life to exist were too low in the first place. Something would always come up and screw up the whole structure.
@ahmadaz96001 As stated right in the paper's abstract, it deals with with abiogenesis of two major types of biopolymers, proteins and nucleic acids.
Why don't you just admit that no matter what evidence is placed in front of you, you're bound by your faith to reject it in favor of "goddidit" just like Answers in Genesis instructs you to do?
Or perhaps I should cite more of the published research on this subject.
I heard how Jesus changed other people's lives and I wanted it too.I was a lying stealing cheating arrogant sexually immoral drug-addicted jerk.I knew I was bad and wanted to be good.I asked Jesus to take control of my life;I had made a mess of it.He came and purified my thought-life and heart.I believe the Son of God died for my sins and rose again. Understanding His love I trust Him and give Him control of my life. He transformed me into a new person.Never knew peace like this before.
Religion is funny because no one seems to notice the simularities between Jesus and Horus, Dionysus, Apollo, Mithras, Zeus, Attis...
Most religious people will ignore that when you point out that Jesus had to pray to himself for the power to heal the sick when he already could heal the sick, he actually doesn't heal the sick when he could and wanted to.
@GLANL I'm about to go a little scientific on to explain this Jesus indeed prayed to himself, and he had to be taught how to walk..etc now the point I was getting at Heaven is time less so God exist outside of time which allows him to be the Alpha and the Omega... Jesus was God "in the Flesh" aka "God within the Concept of time" which means God existed outside of time, while in time(Jesus). So Jesus prayed to God for the power to do miracles well... hopefully I didn't confuse you to bad
@Musician0at0Work How is an unfalsifiable entity who exists in an unfalsifiable realm scientific? Anyhow... I heard a local pastor say: "And jesus went to the sick and healed them, he even casted out demons" "after healing some blind and sick he secluded himself to pray to god for the power to heal the sick" I wonder, did Jesus have some kind of 'power level' ... Why did god give Jesus only 10 miracle healings or so and then jesus would have to pray for more?
@GLANL It's because Jesus (A.S) is not god he is the prophet of god and he could perform miracles only by the leave of god. These miracles were not to prove Jesus's "Divinity" but they were signs to convince people (The Jews and the Romans).
@Enleuk you're right about Islam being wrong, how can you call someone a great prophet if he claimed to be the Son of God? I don't get that logic *shrug*
@Musician0at0Work He didnt claim to be the Son of God. That was inserted by his followers. He neither claimed to be the prophesized Messiah either. And never spoke of the virgin birth himself. Read the book of Mark, the earliest record of Jesus life. There are no wise men, no birth in Betlehem (the prophesized home of the Messiah, he was from Nazareth, the Betlehem story was made to prove he was Messiah) This was all made up later in the books of Matt, Luke and lastly John.
@Musician0at0Work I've written blog posts about it. If you doubt the truth of what I'm saying and is unexpectedly (I say unexpectedly, because nobody I've ever talked to on youtube has so far been) open to reading the works of people who disagree with your hitherto gathered knowledge, then I'd be happy to direct you to my blog and let you examine my reasons for these statements.
Science learned of the dimensions above the 4th dimension there is no time because the 4th dimesion is time use your imagination. I'm not going to argue. If don't want to believe its up to you I'm not going to force anything
@Musician0at0Work Two temporal dimensions is regarded to be unstable, I'm not sure whether that would mean there can't be a curled up temporal dimension (I guess it would be a mostly superfluous concept). But I don't know the mathematics of it.
I find the concept of momentum in time more interesting to imagine, but that's just personal.
@Musician0at0Work I doubt anyone would be able to convert me, so thank you for not trying. Having debates on youtube is mostly useless. I'd rather have epic discussions about physics with fellow students, where eitherone has to change his entire world view (or crucial parts).
BTW thank you for saying that Jesus is god, having attended the catholic church for more than 10 years it's quite annoying when someone gets it wrong :P
@Musician0at0Work Oh yeah. About imagining higher dimensions. One cannot win tic tac toe when both players know what they do. But you can win it when it is played in three or more dimensions ;) ( as a result of one of the world view changing discussions :P)
I always knew Atheist were so ignorant. No morals, no wonder why you came at me all mad after I state my belief system. What is next? Your gonna go up to a guy and punch him because you don't like his shirt?
@Jacoby515 No, that would be mean. However grilling you on your religious beliefs is perfectly justified. After all why should your belief in an invisible man in the sky who listens to YOU be safe from ridicule? Someone who believes that the earth is less than 10000 years old and believes that all earth based life lives within walking distance of nohas house should be ridiculed.
@Jacoby515 that is insane, i know you werent talking to me but i noticed what you wrote, And im offended. I dont believe in religion so im going to go punch a guy because of the t shirt hes wearing... You sound crazy dude would god want you to judge others? were all human right? i forgive you though even though you just insulted half, if not most of the human species. i am enlightened and not by your gold oil and drugs
@Jacoby515 "I always knew Atheist were so ignorant. No morals"
Well, excuse us that we don't find slavery, stoning for adultery, stoning for disobedient children or death for working on the sabbath to be acceptable in 21st century societies.
God, satan, heaven, hell- DON'T EXIST! They are ancient, primitive fairy tales that came from ancient, primitive, uneducated humans! The bible is a big book of fairy tales like Santa Claus and shouldn't be taken literally or seriously!!
Humans back then didn't have any organized body of science, so they made up fairy tales and stories to explain things!.....I'm totally serious!!
The bible is an old, outdated book!! Stick it up in your attic, or basement; somewhere in the back
@TomoHawKzZ Religion is evil, as it is man searching for God. That is why so many wars have been started. True Christianity is a relationship with Christ and what he has done for us. When you follow Christ you are saved. All true Christians are good people, the bad ones are a bi-product of the human engineered church.
Why can't people respect each other's beliefs and get on with their lives. There is no need for the immature and childish comments. I wish for the atheists to stop bashing the religious folk and the religious folk to stop bashing on the atheists. If both sides have mean things to say about each other, they should keep their opinions to themselves and stop pissing off other people. >:(
@Fackifiknow This is exactly what I'm talking about. If you don't like other people's beliefs, then you should keep it to yourself. That's why people argue with you because you won't keep your mouth shut.
@fearoffema I don't think you get my point. Humanity is what it is right now because people seem to forget to cooperate with one other. Also don't bring up the Holocaust into this. It has nothing to do with my comment.
@lightningboysgirl16 "Humanity is what it is right now because people seem to forget to cooperate with one other"
You make it sound as if humanity today is worse of then before. You couldn't be more wrong. Humanity has NEVER been in better shape in the entire history of the world. And the reason for that is that people now stand up against bigotry and NO LONGER simply "respect" beliefs for the sake of respecting it. Respect is something you need to EARN.
@ScientificBob Well respect would be earned if people would stop fighting about childish things. I could of said it before. I knew humanity was never perfect but as new technological things are being made, people will find new ways to destroy each other, like atomic bombs or things like that. That's why I think humanity has gotten worse, in my opinion :,(
@lightningboysgirl16 "Well respect would be earned if people would stop fighting about childish things"
Theists will never earn my respect as long as they continue to impose their religious rules on me or the society I live in and as longs as they continue to believe that I'm an immoral asshole who deserves to be tortured for eternity for the crime of not belonging to their irrational ancient cult.
@lightningboysgirl16 "Also don't bring up the Holocaust into this. It has nothing to do with my comment."
It actually has EVERYTHING to do with it. The Holocaust happend because.... there was no one to stand up against what the nazi's believed in before their beliefs turned into actions.
@ScientificBob Okay okay I only said that because I feel sad on what happened in the Holocaust. Those poor Jewish people...one could only wish that horrible things like the Holocaust never happened.
@lightningboysgirl16 Well... If they all keeped their opinions to themselves since when the religion appeared, do you think religion would exist today?!
@so20ver hmm...well you do have a point. But all I'm asking is for people to stop bashing each other on what they believe in and get on with their lives
@lightningboysgirl16 Ya I really do understand what u mean with that, but my point explained why we DO NOT should keep our opinions to ourselves in this case. Respect is very different of sharing opinions. Greetings from Brazil~
@lightningboysgirl16 Dude, read my comment CORRECTLY... I DID understand what u meant. And if people keeped their opinions to themselves, religion would not exist. That's all. Now let's stop... We are repeating the same thing over and over. lol
@lightningboysgirl16 Why is it a prerequisite that you have to respect someone's beliefs? Really? Do you respect $cientologists belief that they are inhabited by Thetans & only become sick and have bad luck because of these spiritual entities? Or the Mormon belief that American Indians are the lost tribe of Jews & that they one day can become a gOD & rule their own universe? Or that I will one day become a Jedi if I wish hard enough to the midichlorians in my body? Come now.
@callum1131 First of all I am NOT a freaking man!!! Second of all I'm trying to keep peace between these two types of beliefs. I wasn't trying to bash anyone around you dickhead moron!!!
@lightningboysgirl16 "First of all I am NOT a freaking man!!! " Then be silent, woman. According to my religion, woman are to be silent. As per your own statement, you should respect my beliefs.
"I'm trying to keep peace between these two types of beliefs" Atheism is NOT a 'type of belief'. Theism is the belief. Atheism is exactly NOT that.
Secondly, impossible. For theism, we are vile immoral scum that deserve eternal torture for not being part of their club.
@ScientificBob Hey Hey don't tell me to be quiet! I say whatever I want, regardless on what YOU believe! We're all equal around here dude, and I believe that means girls should be treated the same. Second of all, I know atheism is when you don't believe anything religious exist. I could made myself more clear when I said I wanted to keep peace between the two beliefs. You knew what I meant. Don't make it even more complicated :(
@TomFynn Okay maybe the Dark Ages was primitive and unperfect, I'll agree with you on that, but no need for the insults. You're just getting the wrrong idea on religion. See, the only reason that religion exist is people have want to have hope and faith for good things to happen. Not all religions are good ,tough, but don't get the wrong ideas from the good ones :'(
@procrastinator99 Well it depends on how you view the religion, though. If used for a good and significant purpose, the religion is a good one. But many use it for the wrong purpose. Thats just me though :/
@lightningboysgirl16 The only reason religion exists is because people are afraid of death and compensate for that by having an invisible friend even as an adult. But since no one would admit to such childish behavior it gets called religion. Good or bad don't come into it. All religions are fairy tales for adults.
@lightningboysgirl16 respect is earned, not given freely. Do you respect the KKK's beliefs? What about the Muslim Brotherhood's beliefs? How about Aryan supremicists?
IF religions want respect perhaps they should make an effort to be more respectable.
@stiimuli I'm not supporting those guys, if you really want to know. I'm nt trying to pick a side at all. I just wish people would stop fighting over nonesense. That's all.
@lightningboysgirl16 I understand and I do see your point. Conversations on this subject can become unfortunately vitriolic.
However, we are members of a society and beliefs inform actions (often to trajic result). As members of a society we each have a responsibility to discuss and evaluate beliefs, behaviors and the consequences of such in order to improve society.
Religion is not somehow "off limits" just because the reality of the subject may offend some people.
I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee(Moses) and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.And it shall come to pass that whosoever will not Hearken unto my words which he shall speak in MY NAME, I will require it of him. In the NAME of Allah the most gracious and most merciful
Say: He is Allah, the One and Only Allah the Eternal, Absolute He begetteth not, nor is He begotten And there is none like unto Him.
@trs24june Why are you quoting a book? Is that supposed to be an argument or statement? Because its just confusing nonsense that's poorly translated from written testamony that was 'edited' from reports of hundreds or thousands of people and mashed together into one book even if it made no sense. Hense, what are you on about?
Only a REAL FOOL would claim there is no God! Man creates awesome skyscrapers, fake hearts, tunnels, vehicles etc.. If we are very imperfect then what more can God create THE UNIVERSE! You must accept Jesus Christ as your Savior to receive eternal rest in heaven! Simple! John 3:16 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him! Repent & accept Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ or HELL?!? Visit cbn. com
tigersforchrist 8 hours ago
@tigersforchrist wait. Are you actually arguing that a god exists because we build some cool stuff? You aren't providing a shed of evidence of creation with that. In fact the items you give are much more purpose orientated and wouldn't have the inefficiency problems our universe has like limited human senses, junk DNA, genetic disabilities, and most of the universe being deadly to the humans it was supposedly made for. The universe is far more like a thing made without will or direction.
CarletonSaw 7 hours ago
@1237fa So we find ourselves in a bit of tautological pickle. What you are essentially saying is, 'People who deal with the issue of religion rationally and intelligently are intelligent."
Yes. That would seem to be the case.
AmuseD21 21 hours ago
If people don't want their beliefs laughed at, they shouldn't have such funny beliefs.
justicierofinal 1 day ago 3
these people are wrong, Zeus and apollo, the greek gods are real!!!! I hate you dumb people, you're all stupid, you choose to deny these gods!!!!
scienceevolution94 1 day ago 2
Excellent video, believers cannot appreciate, their sense of humour is very low... We could bury them with a laugh if they weren't so violent
discodancer69 2 days ago
islam, christianity and judaism all worship the same god, they all use the old testament and 2 of them see jesus as 'holy'.
Neylonx 3 days ago
Brilliant!
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ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
Mogley52 5 days ago
@Mogley52 Really 14 posts in a row just to prove your blinded by faith, everyone here knew that in your first post.
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SCIENCE SHOWS THE UNIVERSE could not have been active eternally because of entropy (energy decay, even in an open system). Einstein confirmed that space, matter, time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
Mogley52 5 days ago
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CREATIONISTS RIGHT ABOUT ENTROPY (Internet Article): Entropy occurs in both open and closed systems. In every transfer of energy some of the energy becomes useless. Given enough time, all of the energy becomes useless and the universe cannot be sustain any activity. Even in an open system, there must first exist an energy-converting, directing mechanism to develop order, such as when a seed becomes a tree. Spontaneous order from chaos is not possible, not to any significant degree.
Mogley52 5 days ago
EINSTEIN CONFIRMED that space and time are just as physical as matter. That's why space and time can be altered by gravity, and space produces particles. Einstein's equations show that the universe couldn’t be eternal. It had a beginning. Einstein believed, because of science, in the existence of God behind the origin and order of the universe. He didn't believe in a personal God like Christians do, but he did believe science pointed to the existence of an all powerful and intelligent Creator.
Mogley52 5 days ago
@Mogley52
First of all, science has not confirmed that the universe had anything called a "beginning" so much as it has confirmed that it was once radically different.
Einstein had an open mind and considered many different theories about the universe, including the "cyclical" models, which state that the universe has no real beginning, and is instead oscillating between "big bangs" and "big crunches."
That is, the universe occasionally collapses before expanding again, like a balloon.
TheMathShaman 5 days ago
@Mogley52
Regardless though, "Einstein believed it" is hardly a convincing argument. Yes, he was genius, but that doesn't mean he was always right. Hell, he bounced back and forth between considering a created universe, a universe that "just happens" without intelligent design, a universe that has a clear beginning and end, and an infinite universe. All the ideas fascinated him, and he never accepted any of them as absolute truth, nor did he shrug them off.
That's what made him great.
TheMathShaman 5 days ago
@TheMathShaman ignore Mogley. This person has no intention of having a conversation. He/she goes from video to video spam-posting that entire sequence of prepared (and demonstrably incorrect) comments with no intention of even attempting to defend any challenges to this dissinformation.
just mark his/her comments as spam and move on.
stiimuli 4 days ago
@Mogley52 NO, he did not.
fuckthedumb1 4 days ago
@Mogley52 Einstein is not the emperor of science.. Just like Freud is not the emperor of psychology. Just because Einstein said it doesn't mean it's true. Science doesn't point to an intelligent creator just because we don't know how we got here. You can't just draw a conclusion out of nothing just because you don't have the answer right now. "I don't know" is a perfectly good answer. We DON'T know! Just admit it! Why do people have to act like they know everything all the time?
lasoogneypubes 3 days ago 11
@lasoogneypubes I agree, but isn't it obvious why some claim to know everything all the time? It gives power over the gullible, the dumb, the ignorant, the lazy and the careless and let me tell you, that's about 90% of all humans. Imagine that, having power over billions of brainwashed drones to do thy bidding. Just look at small African villages where shahmen accuse kids of witchcraft and ritually murder them. Anyone who dares to interfere is also accused and murdered.
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NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How did species survive if their vital tissues, organs, reproductive systems were still evolving? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic and biological similarities between species.
Mogley52 5 days ago
ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) in nature is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 5 days ago
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IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 5 days ago
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DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news concerning genetics, fossils, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit Institute for Creation Research.
Mogley52 5 days ago
WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! This Internet article describes how evolutionary scientists are disagreeing over all the "evidence" traditionally used to support macro-evolution. I have given over a dozen lectures, including before evolution science faculty and students, refuting macro-evolution. At the end I would answer questions and arguments from the audience. The science faculty was mostly silent. They knew enough science to understand what I was saying was true.
Mogley52 5 days ago
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EXPLAINING HOW AN AIRPLANE WORKS doesn't mean no one made the airplane. Explaining how life or the universe works doesn't mean there was no Maker behind them. Natural laws explain how the order in the universe works, but mere undirected natural laws can't explain the origin of that order. Once you have a complete, living cell then the genetic code/mechanisms exist to direct the formation of more cells, but how did the cell naturally originate when no directing code/mechanisms existed in nature?
Mogley52 5 days ago
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NATURAL SELECTION IS NO BLIND WATCHMAKER because it can only "select" traits, not produce them. If a trait survives, that survival is called being "selected." Natural selection operates only once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't have been involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it alive! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 5 days ago
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APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creatures anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged-pawed dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
Mogley52 5 days ago
@Mogley52 dont worry by sticking to the heresay from thousands of years ago you will be done with this horrible world when you go to the real life after you've been buried in the ground
calabiyou 4 days ago
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GENETIC AND BIOLOGICAL SIMILARITIES are better explained due to a common Designer Who designed similar functions for similar purposes in the various forms of life. Genetic information can't happen by chance, so this is the best explanation. So-called junk DNA is not junk. These "non-coding" segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression (how, when, and where genes are expressed in the body). Read my Internet article WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 5 days ago
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THE SCIENCE SUPPORTING CREATION (Google this title to access the site). The site presents a collage of evidences from science supporting creation and refutes arguments by evolutionists (i.e. "flaws" in design of human eye, "junk" DNA, embryonic recapitulation, age of the earth, fossils, etc., etc.). Also, read my Internet article ANY LIFE ON MARS CAME FROM EARTH. In the Earth's past, powerful volcanic activity spewed life-containing dirt into space very possibly reaching Mars.
Mogley52 5 days ago
I define religion a bit more loosely than the layman. Religion is any system of beliefs that the adherents of zealously force on others in an unmitigated frenzy. Those who fail to see their hypothetical enlightenment are at the very least worthy of their spite and scorn for simple disagreements.
This can make candidacies (Paul, Obama), political beliefs, fan bases, and indeed Atheism a religion for most of you. For me English grammar and spelling are my God and the internet is full of infidels.
GrammarNaziFoxGirl 5 days ago
@GrammarNaziFoxGirl So you worship the grammar and spelling accepted by the majority of anglophones (aspects of our language which are usually only superficially meddled with) but you've decided that lexicon is completely dependent upon individual interpretation. You may choose to see religion however you like but the word (at this moment) is a signifier with a specific meaning, "the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power..." I believe the word you're looking for is orthodoxy.
AmuseD21 20 hours ago
I wish Steve Carell was my boyfriend. <333
miriamthemoon 6 days ago
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a few hundred years ago, people would burn some one on the stake simply because they didn't understand them. like joan of arc.
if you showed one of those people back then an i pod, it wouldn't make any sense to them and they would probably kill you and smash the ipod on a rock. this relates to how people don't think god makes sense. we have A LOT to learn, and not believing in something just because it doesn't make sense, wont get us far.
IANtheROACH 6 days ago
LMAOOOO such a burn
parkerdinhwilliams15 6 days ago
ALLAH means GOD in arabic..
samiadinos 6 days ago 17
@samiadinos BUT I HEAR MUSLIMS ALWAYS SAYING "ALLAH IS THE TRUE GOD" ....
reym613 4 days ago
@samiadinos they say allah and god to seperate the belifs...
ante9224 3 days ago
@samiadinos Really????!!!!! WOW YOU'RE A GENIUS.
PostgodAfterbirth 3 days ago
@samiadinos I tell that to people all the time. They dont seem to get it.
Schaleby 3 days ago
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KeefWest1988 6 days ago
@callum1131 Ignorant people like you deserve ignorant replies. Quit bugging other people just because you can't come up with a better contridiction. Oh yeah, and while you're at it, go stick a fork up your butt and rotate on it. >:P
lightningboysgirl16 1 week ago
@lightningboysgirl16 im ok thank you.
callum1131 1 week ago
@callum1131 You better :P
lightningboysgirl16 6 days ago
Dr. Harold Morowitz, former professor of biophysics at Yale University, estimated that the probability of the formation of the smallest, simplest form of living organism known is 1 out of 10^340 million
The very popular evolutionist, Dr. Carl Sagan of Cornell University, figured even steeper odds against the simplest life beginning naturally on a planet such as earth. According to him, the probability would be about 1 out of 10^2 billion
You believe in your apes fairytale, I believe in mine.
ahmadaz96001 1 week ago
@ahmadaz96001 lol what? A thiest using math/science?
theillesteverwritten 1 week ago
@ahmadaz96001 and you know why Morowitz had to ESTIMATE such a figure? Because nearly every point of his equation is fabrication. No data upon which such a probability could be calculated actually exists. If you think it does, why not cite the equations he used to reach that figure?
He was speculating blindly based on personal opinion...not on actual, publishable research.
stiimuli 1 week ago
@ahmadaz96001 and please cite the source of this probability anywhere in any of Sagan's work.
"You believe in your apes fairytale, I believe in mine"
Luckily, our "apes fairytale" doesn't require belief. Its supported by literally hundreds of thousands of published, peer reviewed research papers, independantly verifiable observation and documentation and well over 95% of the scientific community.
Please cite a single published research paper demonstrating your fairy tale.
stiimuli 1 week ago
@stiimuli Carl Sagan - Communication with Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence (MIT Press, 1973)
Other example;
Gerald Schroeder - In The Science of God: The Convergence of Scientific and Biblical Wisdom by Gerald Schroeder (Free Press, 1997). He states one of the highest mathematical possibility for evolution with 1 out of 10^850.
Mathematically, even that, the highest chance of evolution happening is also next to impossible.
Yes, it's just another fairytale, except with apes in it.
ahmadaz96001 6 days ago
@ahmadaz96001 How can you make a mathematical possibility calculation of evolution when you only have 1 planet in the universe to gather data from? Its also highly biased coming from someone like that, making the entire book/calculation extremely unscientific and will not be taken seriously by anyone. And regardless of how improbable evolution might be, its still true. Because evolution happens, and there is overwhelming amounts of evidence to support it.
deffan84 6 days ago
@ahmadaz96001 I'm sorry, I'm not finding the statement of Sagan's to which you are referring. It would help if you could provide a page number, paragraph and the calculations by which this assertion was made.
and just like your referance to Morowitz, Shroeder's book is not published, peer reviewed research...its an opinion piece. The figures he uses for these calculations are COMPLETE speculation not based on any real-world data.
Anyone can write book claiming anything they want.
stiimuli 6 days ago
@ahmadaz96001 "Mathematically, even that, the highest chance of evolution happening is also next to impossible."
Even if these calculations of probability were accurate (which they aren't) statistically improbable events occurr EVERY DAY. Flip a coin in the air and let it fall on the ground. Do you have any idea the ASTRONOMICAL odds of that coin coming to rest exactly where it did? Its utterly incalculable...yet it did land there.
stiimuli 6 days ago
@ahmadaz96001 "Yes, it's just another fairytale, except with apes in it."
Don't think I didn't notice how you completely ignored my point that this "fairy tale" is supported by hundreds of thousands of published, peer reviewed research papers, numerous observations and documentations and nearly 100% of the scientific community.
Its this very point which creationists simply can not circumvent. Evolution is a reality just like gravitation is a reality. There's no way around it.
stiimuli 6 days ago
@stiimuli Can you name me a scientist who manage to turn "a bag of amino acids" into polypeptide chain that can fold into a functional protein, without external help?
It would require a time longer than the age of the universe itself for those amino acids to arrive at its correct native conformation and form one single functional protein, let alone form a simplest living organism with 200+ proteins.
And that's science... It's impossible.
Understand? It's impossible. Okay? Got it?
ahmadaz96001 6 days ago
@ahmadaz96001 "Can you name me a scientist who manage to turn "a bag of amino acids" into polypeptide chain that can fold into a functional protein, without external help?"
That's not evolution. Don't start with the strawmen. You're obviously referring to abiogenesis which is nowhere near as well supported as evolution (yet still a promising field).
Evolution deals with the genetic change over time of existing populations of life.
stiimuli 6 days ago
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@ahmadaz96001 "It would require a time longer than the age of the universe itself for those amino acids to arrive at its correct native conformation and form one single functional protein, let alone form a simplest living organism with 200+ proteins."
and by what method have you detirmined how long such a process would take? We already know that polynulceotide chains can form on their own in certain compounds (montmorillonite clay for example) under the right conditions.
stiimuli 6 days ago
@ahmadaz96001 "And that's science... It's impossible. Understand? It's impossible. Okay? Got it?"
Except that repeated experiments have shown that it IS possible. I find it baffling that anyone could continue to assert something cannot happen when the publish research shows that it does.
Its like continuing to assert we never landed on the moon when man-made equipment and footprints can still be seen there!
stiimuli 6 days ago
@ahmadaz96001 [The simultaneous synthesis of peptides and oligonucleotides on kaolinite with the participation of aminoacyladenylates].
Egofarova RKh, Vasil'eva NV, Moiseeva LN, Otroshchenko VA, Pavlovskaia TE. Izv Akad Nauk SSSR Biol. 1990 Jan-Feb;(1):136-40
Simply type "abiogenesis" into a PubMed search field and read the over 17,000 research papers for yourself.
stiimuli 6 days ago
@stiimuli I don't know Russian but I'm pretty sure that paper wasn't even talking about any functional proteins. That paper was about peptides. Even 2 monomers can be considered peptides. That was lame.
And that paper shows huge probability of some other random useless molecules formed from the process naturally, and those were the reason the chance that life to exist were too low in the first place. Something would always come up and screw up the whole structure.
It is, impossible
ahmadaz96001 6 days ago
@ahmadaz96001 As stated right in the paper's abstract, it deals with with abiogenesis of two major types of biopolymers, proteins and nucleic acids.
Why don't you just admit that no matter what evidence is placed in front of you, you're bound by your faith to reject it in favor of "goddidit" just like Answers in Genesis instructs you to do?
Or perhaps I should cite more of the published research on this subject.
so be it.
stiimuli 6 days ago
@ahmadaz96001 "Whale phylogeny and rapid radiation events revealed using novel retroposed elements and their flanking sequences."
Chen Z, Xu S, Zhou K, Yang G.BMC Evol Biol. 2011 Oct 27;11:314.
"Divergence and biogeography of the recently evolved Macaronesian red Festuca (Gramineae) species inferred from coalescence-based analyses."
Díaz-Pérez AJ, Sequeira M, Santos-Guerra A, Catalán P.
Mol Ecol. 2012 Feb 21. doi: 10.1111/j.1365-294X.2012.05495.x
stiimuli 6 days ago
@ahmadaz96001 "Ecological and historical drivers of diversification in the fly genus Chiastocheta Pokorny."
Espíndola A, Buerki S, Alvarez N.Mol Phylogenet Evol. 2012 Feb 8.
"Chromosome differentiation patterns during cichlid fish evolution."
Poletto AB, Ferreira IA, Cabral-de-Mello DC, Nakajima RT, Mazzuchelli J, Ribeiro HB, Venere PC, Nirchio M, Kocher TD, Martins C.BMC Genet. 2012 Jan 19;13(1):2
stiimuli 6 days ago
@ahmadaz96001 and you did not cite the single published, peer reviewed research paper demonstrating any instance of divine creation that I asked for.
could this be because you are fully aware that none exist?
stiimuli 6 days ago
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@ahmadaz96001 No sensible probability calculation can be made when you don't have all the parameters.
Also, probability calculations are pretty useless unless you put them in proper context of amount of trials.
I'll bet 10.000 dollars that I won't be winning the lottery the coming month.
Yet, I'll bet a million dollars that SOMEONE will.
I'll let you think about that and see if you can figure out by yourself why your cited probabilities are pretty useless.
ScientificBob 6 days ago
But but the jews gave us terrorism and bombing ! Since 1 ad ( Sicarii -jonathon)
00Billy 1 week ago
Steve just said Shahada.. Now he's a Muslim.
hIadnopivo 1 week ago
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I heard how Jesus changed other people's lives and I wanted it too.I was a lying stealing cheating arrogant sexually immoral drug-addicted jerk.I knew I was bad and wanted to be good.I asked Jesus to take control of my life;I had made a mess of it.He came and purified my thought-life and heart.I believe the Son of God died for my sins and rose again. Understanding His love I trust Him and give Him control of my life. He transformed me into a new person.Never knew peace like this before.
djquiz6425 1 week ago
Very funny, thanks for the upload :)
squidfanny 1 week ago
Awesome, LOL
carrboygirl 1 week ago
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atomman45 1 week ago
That says it all...a pray off! Lmao...
MrCaptainchronic99 1 week ago
Religion is funny because no one seems to notice the simularities between Jesus and Horus, Dionysus, Apollo, Mithras, Zeus, Attis...
Most religious people will ignore that when you point out that Jesus had to pray to himself for the power to heal the sick when he already could heal the sick, he actually doesn't heal the sick when he could and wanted to.
GLANL 1 week ago
@GLANL I'm about to go a little scientific on to explain this Jesus indeed prayed to himself, and he had to be taught how to walk..etc now the point I was getting at Heaven is time less so God exist outside of time which allows him to be the Alpha and the Omega... Jesus was God "in the Flesh" aka "God within the Concept of time" which means God existed outside of time, while in time(Jesus). So Jesus prayed to God for the power to do miracles well... hopefully I didn't confuse you to bad
Musician0at0Work 1 week ago
@Musician0at0Work How is an unfalsifiable entity who exists in an unfalsifiable realm scientific? Anyhow... I heard a local pastor say: "And jesus went to the sick and healed them, he even casted out demons" "after healing some blind and sick he secluded himself to pray to god for the power to heal the sick" I wonder, did Jesus have some kind of 'power level' ... Why did god give Jesus only 10 miracle healings or so and then jesus would have to pray for more?
GLANL 1 week ago
@GLANL It's because Jesus (A.S) is not god he is the prophet of god and he could perform miracles only by the leave of god. These miracles were not to prove Jesus's "Divinity" but they were signs to convince people (The Jews and the Romans).
UmayrTakwir 1 week ago
@UmayrTakwir Jesus, the holy ghost, and GOD is one so no you are wrong about that buddy...
Musician0at0Work 1 week ago
@Musician0at0Work Islam says Jesus was a prophet of God. Christianity says Jesus was the son of God. They are both wrong.
Enleuk 1 week ago
@Enleuk you're right about Islam being wrong, how can you call someone a great prophet if he claimed to be the Son of God? I don't get that logic *shrug*
Musician0at0Work 1 week ago
@Musician0at0Work He didnt claim to be the Son of God. That was inserted by his followers. He neither claimed to be the prophesized Messiah either. And never spoke of the virgin birth himself. Read the book of Mark, the earliest record of Jesus life. There are no wise men, no birth in Betlehem (the prophesized home of the Messiah, he was from Nazareth, the Betlehem story was made to prove he was Messiah) This was all made up later in the books of Matt, Luke and lastly John.
Enleuk 1 week ago
@Enleuk Wow, you know your stuff -_- I'm not here to argue so... I will leave, with this I attempted to tell you, but I failed.
Musician0at0Work 1 week ago
@Musician0at0Work I've written blog posts about it. If you doubt the truth of what I'm saying and is unexpectedly (I say unexpectedly, because nobody I've ever talked to on youtube has so far been) open to reading the works of people who disagree with your hitherto gathered knowledge, then I'd be happy to direct you to my blog and let you examine my reasons for these statements.
Enleuk 1 week ago
@Enleuk sure why not, Jesus listened why shouldn't I
Musician0at0Work 1 week ago
@Musician0at0Work posted link on your page
Enleuk 1 week ago
@GLANL I really hate arguing so I'm saying.
Science learned of the dimensions above the 4th dimension there is no time because the 4th dimesion is time use your imagination. I'm not going to argue. If don't want to believe its up to you I'm not going to force anything
Musician0at0Work 1 week ago
@Musician0at0Work Two temporal dimensions is regarded to be unstable, I'm not sure whether that would mean there can't be a curled up temporal dimension (I guess it would be a mostly superfluous concept). But I don't know the mathematics of it.
I find the concept of momentum in time more interesting to imagine, but that's just personal.
GLANL 1 week ago
@Musician0at0Work I doubt anyone would be able to convert me, so thank you for not trying. Having debates on youtube is mostly useless. I'd rather have epic discussions about physics with fellow students, where eitherone has to change his entire world view (or crucial parts).
BTW thank you for saying that Jesus is god, having attended the catholic church for more than 10 years it's quite annoying when someone gets it wrong :P
GLANL 1 week ago
@Musician0at0Work Oh yeah. About imagining higher dimensions. One cannot win tic tac toe when both players know what they do. But you can win it when it is played in three or more dimensions ;) ( as a result of one of the world view changing discussions :P)
GLANL 1 week ago
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@Musician0at0Work "hopefully I didn't confuse you to bad"
The only one you are confusing is yourself.
The rest of use can see the gibberish for what it is: nonsense.
ScientificBob 6 days ago
It's nice to see 1 billion Christians and 1 Billion Muslims agreeing on something. Hating 14 million Jews.
jeramahia123 2 weeks ago 43
@jeramahia123 well they are a schemy bunch after all.
hitheresailor 1 week ago
@jeramahia123 More like hating of billions of idiot theists.
SippinonMickeys 1 week ago
I always knew Atheist were so ignorant. No morals, no wonder why you came at me all mad after I state my belief system. What is next? Your gonna go up to a guy and punch him because you don't like his shirt?
Jacoby515 2 weeks ago
@Jacoby515 No, that would be mean. However grilling you on your religious beliefs is perfectly justified. After all why should your belief in an invisible man in the sky who listens to YOU be safe from ridicule? Someone who believes that the earth is less than 10000 years old and believes that all earth based life lives within walking distance of nohas house should be ridiculed.
Vip3rAce 2 weeks ago
@Jacoby515 that is insane, i know you werent talking to me but i noticed what you wrote, And im offended. I dont believe in religion so im going to go punch a guy because of the t shirt hes wearing... You sound crazy dude would god want you to judge others? were all human right? i forgive you though even though you just insulted half, if not most of the human species. i am enlightened and not by your gold oil and drugs
NeSsBiCh 2 weeks ago
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@Jacoby515 "I always knew Atheist were so ignorant. No morals"
Well, excuse us that we don't find slavery, stoning for adultery, stoning for disobedient children or death for working on the sabbath to be acceptable in 21st century societies.
ScientificBob 6 days ago 2
God, satan, heaven, hell- DON'T EXIST! They are ancient, primitive fairy tales that came from ancient, primitive, uneducated humans! The bible is a big book of fairy tales like Santa Claus and shouldn't be taken literally or seriously!!
Humans back then didn't have any organized body of science, so they made up fairy tales and stories to explain things!.....I'm totally serious!!
The bible is an old, outdated book!! Stick it up in your attic, or basement; somewhere in the back
SuperAsi666 2 weeks ago
@SuperAsi666 Nononononono, you got it right until the uneducated humans part.
Religion as itself was indeed used to explain thing's we couldn't explain back then but
it wasn't created due to bad education, no. Religion has been created to control people.
And those people who had the idea to all this are anything but uneducated people, they were as smart as they were evil.
Ryodakun 1 week ago
Why would anyone want to end up in a paradise filled with vergins? so much to teach lol
matrixch88 2 weeks ago
Religion is Fascism.
TomoHawKzZ 2 weeks ago
@TomoHawKzZ Religion is evil, as it is man searching for God. That is why so many wars have been started. True Christianity is a relationship with Christ and what he has done for us. When you follow Christ you are saved. All true Christians are good people, the bad ones are a bi-product of the human engineered church.
Jacoby515 2 weeks ago
@Jacoby515 You are just like the bible, you contradict yourself in every sentence.
TomoHawKzZ 2 weeks ago
@TomoHawKzZ Awww little atheist butt hurt?
Jacoby515 2 weeks ago
@Jacoby515 No, unlike you i wasn't raped in bible camp...
TomoHawKzZ 2 weeks ago
I'm not going to put myself under any religious banner nor designate myself as an atheist. I'm a believer of my own set of ideologies. Nuff said :)
hardc0r3gam3r 2 weeks ago
@hardc0r3gam3r An atheist then.
LAnonHubbard 2 weeks ago
240p :S
sindredit 2 weeks ago
Why can't people respect each other's beliefs and get on with their lives. There is no need for the immature and childish comments. I wish for the atheists to stop bashing the religious folk and the religious folk to stop bashing on the atheists. If both sides have mean things to say about each other, they should keep their opinions to themselves and stop pissing off other people. >:(
lightningboysgirl16 2 weeks ago
@lightningboysgirl16 there is nothing respectable about lies.
Fackifiknow 2 weeks ago
@Fackifiknow This is exactly what I'm talking about. If you don't like other people's beliefs, then you should keep it to yourself. That's why people argue with you because you won't keep your mouth shut.
lightningboysgirl16 2 weeks ago
@lightningboysgirl16 nope
thats like saying jews should have just lived with the Nazis and everyone would be happy
fearoffema 2 weeks ago
@fearoffema I don't think you get my point. Humanity is what it is right now because people seem to forget to cooperate with one other. Also don't bring up the Holocaust into this. It has nothing to do with my comment.
lightningboysgirl16 2 weeks ago
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@lightningboysgirl16 "Humanity is what it is right now because people seem to forget to cooperate with one other"
You make it sound as if humanity today is worse of then before. You couldn't be more wrong. Humanity has NEVER been in better shape in the entire history of the world. And the reason for that is that people now stand up against bigotry and NO LONGER simply "respect" beliefs for the sake of respecting it. Respect is something you need to EARN.
ScientificBob 6 days ago
@ScientificBob Well respect would be earned if people would stop fighting about childish things. I could of said it before. I knew humanity was never perfect but as new technological things are being made, people will find new ways to destroy each other, like atomic bombs or things like that. That's why I think humanity has gotten worse, in my opinion :,(
lightningboysgirl16 3 days ago
@lightningboysgirl16 "Well respect would be earned if people would stop fighting about childish things"
Theists will never earn my respect as long as they continue to impose their religious rules on me or the society I live in and as longs as they continue to believe that I'm an immoral asshole who deserves to be tortured for eternity for the crime of not belonging to their irrational ancient cult.
Period.
ScientificBob 3 days ago 6
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@lightningboysgirl16 "Also don't bring up the Holocaust into this. It has nothing to do with my comment."
It actually has EVERYTHING to do with it. The Holocaust happend because.... there was no one to stand up against what the nazi's believed in before their beliefs turned into actions.
ScientificBob 6 days ago
@ScientificBob Okay okay I only said that because I feel sad on what happened in the Holocaust. Those poor Jewish people...one could only wish that horrible things like the Holocaust never happened.
lightningboysgirl16 3 days ago
@lightningboysgirl16 Well... If they all keeped their opinions to themselves since when the religion appeared, do you think religion would exist today?!
so20ver 1 week ago
@so20ver hmm...well you do have a point. But all I'm asking is for people to stop bashing each other on what they believe in and get on with their lives
lightningboysgirl16 1 week ago
@lightningboysgirl16 Ya I really do understand what u mean with that, but my point explained why we DO NOT should keep our opinions to ourselves in this case. Respect is very different of sharing opinions. Greetings from Brazil~
(:
so20ver 1 week ago
@so20ver Sorry if you didn't what I meant lol, it's just don't want athesists and religious people fighting. :)
lightningboysgirl16 1 week ago
@lightningboysgirl16 Dude, read my comment CORRECTLY... I DID understand what u meant. And if people keeped their opinions to themselves, religion would not exist. That's all. Now let's stop... We are repeating the same thing over and over. lol
so20ver 1 week ago
@so20ver Ok ok sorry! I did read your comment correctly. Just making myself clear. Oh yeah and I'm not dude ahaha :)
lightningboysgirl16 6 days ago
@lightningboysgirl16 Oh I got confused b4 because of ur nickname "lightningBOYsGIRL16" and cuz of your channel. Ok lovely american girl. ;D
so20ver 4 days ago
@so20ver ahaha no problem :)
lightningboysgirl16 4 days ago
@lightningboysgirl16 ;* ILY
so20ver 3 days ago
@lightningboysgirl16 Why is it a prerequisite that you have to respect someone's beliefs? Really? Do you respect $cientologists belief that they are inhabited by Thetans & only become sick and have bad luck because of these spiritual entities? Or the Mormon belief that American Indians are the lost tribe of Jews & that they one day can become a gOD & rule their own universe? Or that I will one day become a Jedi if I wish hard enough to the midichlorians in my body? Come now.
SippinonMickeys 1 week ago 25
@so20ver Besides that, not every religious person is the same...
lightningboysgirl16 1 week ago
@lightningboysgirl16 Not every religious people?! What about priests, pastors and elders, for example??
so20ver 1 week ago
@so20ver many priests like sex with minors don't they?
MissKittyFantasm 1 week ago
@MissKittyFantasm Since when ALL priests are pedophiles?! Respect the people. Btw, I'm an atheist.
so20ver 1 week ago
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@so20ver many priests like sex with minors don't they?
MissKittyFantasm 1 week ago
@so20ver What about religious folk who adore science, eh?
lightningboysgirl16 1 week ago
@lightningboysgirl16 I mean I'm religious but I love paleontology and all that stuff :)
lightningboysgirl16 1 week ago
@lightningboysgirl16 You just can't find yourself believing it... yet. Wait logic will prevail.
SippinonMickeys 1 week ago
@lightningboysgirl16 That's what we call an oxymoron.
SippinonMickeys 1 week ago
@lightningboysgirl16 "What about religious folk who adore science, eh?"
To that I would suggest applying that science they claim to adore to the religion they claim to believe and see what comes to light.
Religion and science are utterly incompatible as they use entirely different methodology and present completely contradictory explanations of reality.
Anyone attempting to adhere to both will eventually be forced to compromise one in favor of the other.
stiimuli 1 week ago
@lightningboysgirl16 Grow a pair of testicles you weak person.
callum1131 1 week ago
@callum1131 First of all I am NOT a freaking man!!! Second of all I'm trying to keep peace between these two types of beliefs. I wasn't trying to bash anyone around you dickhead moron!!!
lightningboysgirl16 1 week ago
@lightningboysgirl16 when did I ever call you a man? Its an expression fool. You need some with your politically correct non sense
callum1131 1 week ago
@callum1131 no need to be personally insulting or call people names.
If you cannot make your point without such, then perhaps your point is not as strong as you would like.
stiimuli 1 week ago
@stiimuli You're mentally weak. Good bye.
callum1131 1 week ago
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@lightningboysgirl16 "First of all I am NOT a freaking man!!! " Then be silent, woman. According to my religion, woman are to be silent. As per your own statement, you should respect my beliefs.
"I'm trying to keep peace between these two types of beliefs" Atheism is NOT a 'type of belief'. Theism is the belief. Atheism is exactly NOT that.
Secondly, impossible. For theism, we are vile immoral scum that deserve eternal torture for not being part of their club.
ScientificBob 6 days ago
@ScientificBob Hey Hey don't tell me to be quiet! I say whatever I want, regardless on what YOU believe! We're all equal around here dude, and I believe that means girls should be treated the same. Second of all, I know atheism is when you don't believe anything religious exist. I could made myself more clear when I said I wanted to keep peace between the two beliefs. You knew what I meant. Don't make it even more complicated :(
lightningboysgirl16 3 days ago
@lightningboysgirl16 "Hey Hey don't tell me to be quiet!"
Obviously my point went straight over your head. I love how you used exclamation marks and were visibly irritated by my "be silent, woman" commant.
So... you see... You don't 'respect' my beliefs either if those beliefs are obviously inherently unfair or irrational.
Thanks for making my point. I just hope you understood it as well this time.
ScientificBob 3 days ago
@lightningboysgirl16 Naw. Bullshit, like religion must be called Bullshit. Otherwise people believe in it. Like they did once. In the Dark Ages.
TomFynn 1 week ago
@TomFynn Okay maybe the Dark Ages was primitive and unperfect, I'll agree with you on that, but no need for the insults. You're just getting the wrrong idea on religion. See, the only reason that religion exist is people have want to have hope and faith for good things to happen. Not all religions are good ,tough, but don't get the wrong ideas from the good ones :'(
lightningboysgirl16 3 days ago
@lightningboysgirl16 There are no good religions.
procrastinator99 3 days ago
@procrastinator99 Well it depends on how you view the religion, though. If used for a good and significant purpose, the religion is a good one. But many use it for the wrong purpose. Thats just me though :/
lightningboysgirl16 3 days ago
@lightningboysgirl16 The only reason religion exists is because people are afraid of death and compensate for that by having an invisible friend even as an adult. But since no one would admit to such childish behavior it gets called religion. Good or bad don't come into it. All religions are fairy tales for adults.
TomFynn 3 days ago 4
@lightningboysgirl16 respect is earned, not given freely. Do you respect the KKK's beliefs? What about the Muslim Brotherhood's beliefs? How about Aryan supremicists?
IF religions want respect perhaps they should make an effort to be more respectable.
stiimuli 1 week ago 26
@stiimuli I'm not supporting those guys, if you really want to know. I'm nt trying to pick a side at all. I just wish people would stop fighting over nonesense. That's all.
lightningboysgirl16 1 week ago
@lightningboysgirl16 I understand and I do see your point. Conversations on this subject can become unfortunately vitriolic.
However, we are members of a society and beliefs inform actions (often to trajic result). As members of a society we each have a responsibility to discuss and evaluate beliefs, behaviors and the consequences of such in order to improve society.
Religion is not somehow "off limits" just because the reality of the subject may offend some people.
stiimuli 1 week ago 2
@stiimuli i have not found the word religion in the bible or the word trinity. Jesus Christ is the light the way and the truth.
3777777777777 6 days ago
@stiimuli Fantastic point you have made there!! Cheers!
acs197 5 days ago
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@lightningboysgirl16 "Why can't people respect each other's beliefs "
Because beliefs inform actions and the beliefs of one camp are trampling on the rights of the others.
ScientificBob 6 days ago
@RamsSTL89... Read hitler's book, he believed he was doing the work of the lord. He was catholic. History is history, friend.
screenpuller 2 weeks ago
ExMuslimForHumanity@ is that what you call yourself? C'mon dude, That's just pathetic
MoyoGangster 2 weeks ago
I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee(Moses) and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.And it shall come to pass that whosoever will not Hearken unto my words which he shall speak in MY NAME, I will require it of him. In the NAME of Allah the most gracious and most merciful
Say: He is Allah, the One and Only Allah the Eternal, Absolute He begetteth not, nor is He begotten And there is none like unto Him.
trs24june 2 weeks ago
@trs24june Why are you quoting a book? Is that supposed to be an argument or statement? Because its just confusing nonsense that's poorly translated from written testamony that was 'edited' from reports of hundreds or thousands of people and mashed together into one book even if it made no sense. Hense, what are you on about?
andromidius 2 weeks ago
This was hilarious.
IMONAMADTING1 2 weeks ago
ROFLMAO! Too funny!
Tarragona1999 2 weeks ago
parents say:
"your imaginary friend doesn't exist, you created him yourself, let it go, he isn't real"
child says:
please replace the word "friend" with "god" and repeat the l