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  • Why did Japan not play defensive with 17 seconds to go at 7:52? He attacked and got counter attacked when he could have defended and dragged the time out until he wins. Maybe tired, nervous, greedy or wanted to put on a good on a show?

  • Hey man, shut up... Fencing is awesome... could you do better then that??

  • wow, fencing sucks, a lot

  • Oh cool, Daft Punk in background

  • they look very hot in this costume,damn ! :)

  • Boriiiinnnggggggggggg

  • why do they use bendy 'swords' , id hardly call them swords at all

  • @Bananayoghurt1000 They used to be pointed on the end, but people kept dieing from being stabbed :(. So now its not pointed and that makes them bend.

  • @Bananayoghurt1000 Because they are extremely light and fast. The object is to simply touch your opponent's body first. It's not a sword fight like you see in the movies.

  • I have absolutely no idea whats going on.

    

  • @fmwingchun

    too bad, this is a very good fight.

    simple things to consider:

    -red/green light means hit, yellow means off target

    -in foil, person who starts the attack first has priority

    -if both attack at same time, person with priority gets the point

    -if it is one green/red and one yellow, depending on who has priority, if it was the green/red light then that person would get the point. if the person who hit off target had priority, it would simply be a "non valide" (non valid) hit

  • @fanmanabc Sounds complicated. I am still lost, but thanks for taking the time to explain.

  • Judge needs to clear his eyes. When the score was 38-37 Poland came in close range and Ota used it to make point, Poland was able to strike along but not on thorso. This point was just called "non valable" I can't agree with that at all!

  • @WeRideTonite

    it was a "non valide" (non valid) hit because it's Glonek attack, though Ota counter-attacked, it wasn't fast enough to produce a one lighter. Sometimes though, the counter attack will be awarded if the judge feels that the initial action produced a light too slow or if it took 2 or more actions. Hopefully im explaining this well enough.

  • @fanmanabc still should have been for ota, if you pause and stop very fast at around 7:43 you'll notice glonek comes in range but never straightened his arm (=no advantage or what it is called in english) in case the judge thinks otherwise, ota takes a parade 4 and sets the riposte even before glonek's white light engages. these judges have a slowmo replay if needed, i hate it when their pride has priority to judging correctly '-.-

  • @WeRideTonite You don't need a straightened arm, just a straightening arm (plus lunge/step-lunge/fleche/step-f­leche), for an attack - the only time Glonek's arm needs to be straightening is just before Ota's lunge starts, and it does imo. The difference between a counter-attack and an attack on preparation can be quite small - some older fencers don't like foil being refereed this way, but that's how it's refereed these days. Also, Ota parries 4 after his c-attack lands, not before.

  • @landon30 i still think this is point for ota, glonek comes into distance but grabs no hold of iron whatsoever. when ota just straightens his arm and makes point glonek places his point somewhere non valable.

  • Fencing sucks because it's always 1 vs 1.. You never get to see battles where there are more than just 2 fencers fighting..

  • the music is one more time from daft punk!:)

  • There are other forms of fencing that are more interesting for the eye than this.

    But personally I think this is very exciting.

    Just in a few milliseconds they are able to cause deadly wounds with precision.

    This is european art. Seen how fast a match in kendo is? This is basically the same.

  • the renessaince fencers must be turning in their graves...

  • YOU GUYS KIDDING ME!!!! THIS IS EPIC!!!!!

  • Fencing is one of the best sports. I do it now...so that's 1 year, I've been fencing for 1 year. I started last October and LOVE it. It requires mental and physical strongnes. In fencing you basically have to outsmart your opponent. All what happens is the movies is slash, parry, stab, perry...boring! REAL fencing is feint disengages and stuff like that. :)

  • I did fencing for a year and it was the best sport I've ever done, deffinetly my kind of game. And then the teacher got laid off... Dammit Obama!

    So the new teacher sucked, but I think I might have found a new fencing thing. But until then PARKOUR!

  • @erock676 haha your interests rock.

  • @StringQuartetFan thank you

  • i dont think ive ever been this dissapointed

  • lol not quite the princess bride, but still really cool

  • I don't why everyone's hating those guys move so fast I wish I could keep up when the action is hot. Reaction skills of a fly dude it's insane.

  • @bloganity

    fencing for a year and a half, and im a relatively fit guy, but fencing is tiring. to keep up the intensity like olympians is hard. though it might not look like much, but moving that fast with 4 layers (undershirt, sous plastron, plastron, and lamé) for that long at that intensity is hard work.

  • lol kid in the background playing with a sword

  • i love watching ota fence :)

  • From Poland to Korea I ravished the land...

  • lol I just want to see a straight up brawl, where they ignore the blinking light and just trade blows

    

  • @thesexysitguy anything can become beautiful the longer you look at it.. i find this "sport?" to be BORING..

  • japanese, samurai, lost a sword duel!??!?! :(

  • @JRonMix

    Fencing is a European custom, Japanese samurais are known for bushido :v

  • I guess people expect more of a Matrix Movie style where they duck, dodge, and block each others attacks for 5 mins straight...sorry.

  • i mean...it looked cooler on The Parent Trap.

  • @TheBabysomar That is not real fencing. It's not as easy as it looks.

  • remember guys...straight punching such as boxing, came from fencing. Not so boring now is it? XD

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  • @ktnxbye lol ......nice grammar you used there .

    /sarcasm

  • fencing was about pride and honor....... it was a martial art but it was not meant for actual combat..... unless your talking about saber..... and that was done from horseback....

  • Awesome I love fencing!

  • fencing is a sport not a sword style stabing stuff iz fun :D

  • Great I love fencing

  • Ota is fast!

  • 2:40 look at the little kid at the top :D Aww :3

  • Why do their swords look like they are all bent to shit?

  • Are you guys forgetting it came down to one touch? The last second was a foul touch. They would have tied if he delivered.

  • Haha I knew a European would beat an asian. It's simple survival of the fittest. The best.

  • @xXxBlackwaterXxX Dude. Asians are better at pretty much everything.

  • @KytoNova Lol is that why their country is proper shit? They can't match Europe or the US. Think of every good technology or method of doing something etc. and it came from Europe or the US.

  • @xXxBlackwaterXxX I was referring to Olympic-level sports.

  • @KytoNova What about Michael Phelps?

  • @KytoNova lol so true

  • @Oreo00000000

    yeah vsing multiple opponents would be awesome because you could have massive player battles out on an open field!

  • @Dimitri0809 It's called LARPing and it's geeky as hell.

    It's also incredibly fun.

  • @KytoNova

    Yeah but larp doesn't use a scoring system like fencing does, as in.. it doesn't have the electrical equipment to keep track of the score like fencing does, would be cool if it did though then it would be like a game!

  • they be some bendy swords :o

    

  • @zibafu i know rite?!

  • 0.43 "you want this bitch?"

  • bruce lee is faster

  • It would probably be better to look at if they did not stop it every 2 seconds (every touch with the "side" of the foil). It would also make it a much more challenging sport...

  • Alright people I think there is something everyone in the world should know... the white man always wins! lol j/k

  • I really want to take fencing and then get the Cold Steel colichemarde

  • ONE MORE TIME

  • obi wan wuld kill everyone at fencing....

  • could someone fence with a long sword? obviously it wouldnt be as fast as a rapier but could you fence with a long sword?

  • @SWCeagles2007 I suppose you could... but you would lose every time. Long swords are meant for slashing not piercing. In my stage combat class we actually had a discussion around a similar question. It wasn't whether you could use a long sword for fencing but rather which one would dominate. We ended up agreeing that it really depends on the wielder... but I still think I would put my bet on the rapier. I think I'd rather have speed over power.

  • @museblock

    Why are you only allowed to move backwards and forwards... In fencing you should be able to move sideways and in all directions and you should be able to vs more than just one person at a time..

  • @Dimitri0809 I am not the right person to ask but I would guess it has to do partly with scoring and partly with tradition. Before there were electronics involved, scoring was subject to human eyes so I imagine that keeping the sport parallel to the judge(s) was the easiest way to score it. Also, traditionally speaking, dueling matches, no matter the weapon, required a standard of etiquette. Always facing your opponent was a matter of honor hence why gun duels were done in a similar fashion.

  • @Dimitri0809 I'll also add this: In my stage combat class I was told that this "standard of etiquette" was mostly for show. So, if there weren't many people around to watch then surviving was a little more important than tradition or honor. Also, the "dance" of fencing positions you in such a way to get the maximum out of your weapon and that footwork, much of the time, faces you towards your opponent. Look up Rob Roy, with Liam Neeson, to see what traditional duels would have been like.

  • Revolutionary Girl Utena!

  • This is like a jabbing contest if they didnt use the swords

  • ya the supposed to be flimsey in foil but im not sure about the others cuz i do foil but nothing else

  • @kentocho Not if you fence with a sabre

  • Not if you fence with a sabre

  • guys dont get mad at me cuz i just found out about fencing, but are the swords supposed to look so flimsy?

  • @kentocho i know right

  • @kentocho They look so flimsy because the people controlling them have a lot of power coming from the base, and the weapon is slightly bent so when you thrust it doesn't stab through someone. It takes a lot of strength and precision to get the sword to move that fast. Make no mistake though, it's steel. I've never seen a foil get serious bent. I've seen several break in half though.

  • @roamingmadnessify ohhhhhhh ok thank you (:

  • Glonek performs beautifully! His thrusts are always so precise!

  • @Tokorai THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!

  • i would quite like to give fencing a go. a quick google search puts the nearest fencing club to me at 17 miles away though :-/

  • They didn't invent the light saber yet why are they scored by making the tip of the sword touch?

  • sigh, fencing isnt as exciting as i thought it would be.

  • @casamir111 its not as exciting if you dont do fencing, if you can follow the actions it becomes beautiful to watch.

  • @casamir111 They should really come up with new clothes. Kendo *looks* cool and marketing is always important.

  • @Nr37124 ...and change the rules so that they're not stopping every nano second :P

    And I definitely agree about Kendo looking cool....

  • That's not fair, one of them might hate daft punk and so technically would have a disadvantage

  • @zenthos01- o yeah, I dont doubt that at all, or that taekwondo uses katanas or whatever. Whats a taekwondo match like? Lol, its just that i saw some comments on here about like comparing katana fighting with fencing.

  • This to me seems like a horrible example of foil fencing.... there are no parries, advanced body motions (Ballestra/Flunge), strategy, or tactics. This is in fact rather horrible fencing. While they are quick and agile they display none of the nuances of A class fencers.

  • wow really close

  • i've just started to learn to fence (foil) and i'm awed by this magnificent lesson.

  • Some people are thinking about ninjas and samurai too much. . .It's plain stupid actually. This is fencing and not the feudal era. . .

  • rapier owns katana in single unarmored combat. That's what they was designed for. Katanas are an instrument of war designed to cut through armor.

  • LOL daft punk in background

  • Omg this is insane. I thought i could get good quick becuz i was learning from one of the old champions but this is impossible. I now realize my teachers been messing with me the whole time

  • @yeahwhatever50 In my opinion this sint real fencing. This is just quick basic attacks without any real tactics or advanced movements. They dont even deceive parries or use balestra or flunge. "A Class" fencing is not what people should be learning as a recreational sport you teacher is probably teaching you correctly.

  • @cheesemuffin94 Are YOU fencing in International Championships? No? Then these guys are better than you, and you are not in a position to criticise their technique.

  • @zhivana I was responding to the fact that he was talking about how impossible it was to be this was to be this good and talking about my own personal experiences. Just because I am not participating in international events dosent make it so I cannot understand the sport and how it should be played. I am allowed to have MYOWN personal beliefs without you complaining about it. I respect your opinion and the fact that you may disagree with me but you are not in charge of what I say.

  • One more time <3

  • @TheBProVo good luck with that

  • i could start practicing now and in 1 or 2 years i am on the same level. easy sport

  • @TheBProVo Yes, but you won't do that because you're obviously too cool to be a champion fencer?

    Learn a thing or two about what you're talking about. Most humans don't have the reflexes to be on this level, and won't ever attain that level. Someone of your "intelligence" clearly belongs to that group.

  • @DerBademantel its a easy sport anyways

  • DAFT PUNK, SON!!

  • "Let us gingerly touch our tips!"

    -Role Models

  • there playing DAFT PUNK <3

  • @SteampunkFlyer

    Makes sense, Daft Punk is French

  • I really like this sport , I'm in an inter school competition tomorrow, I get an adrenaline rush every competition it's amazing :)

  • what skill is required!?!? You try it and i GUARANTEE you would get destroyed in a fencing bout. There is strategy, reading the opponent, feints, parries, and tons of other things to grasp before you can even consider yourself an amateur. Everything happens in less than 1/2 a second, so if you blink, there is a very good chance you missed it and you're already losing.

  • @TheJDelmore well said.

  • @TheJDelmore soooo basically... hit the other guy before he hits you?

  • to be honest what skill is required cuz i dont see any

  • @mrkidd1 u shud try this out

  • how could the japanese guy not win? i thought all japanese are great swordsmen and samurai warriors, unrivaled in their swordsmanship and ninja abilities... guess this proves me wrong. poland... apparently the polish are better ninjas than the japs. who woulda thought? grats, poland

  • @presbarkeep You've never heard of people having their bad days/ ''off days''?

  • @INKYLOVESNATHANSYKES touchee.

  • @presbarkeep what a fucking stereotype

    not all japanese people are ninjas as you so stupidly think

    try growing a brain before posting something

  • @presbarkeep haha :D

  • Fuck foil. Too unrealistic.

  • there uniforms for the sport is so awesome. Slow mo this action with a driving soundtrack and you got yourself an advertisement for corporate ethics and policy. the uniforms are what makes this sport WORK. They look so futuristic. The sport itself is very precise which is anothermain reason i like it.

  • ... I fail to see the point of this discussion about fencing; foils are not even real swords, they were used as training for rapiers, which were the true ones, and were much, much more deadlier than a foil.

    Fencing swords are down-graded versions of the real ones, it's like, comparing a bokken to a true katana.

  • @tubermann1 The commands are in French because fencing originated in France and the entire sport is taught with the original French names of the actions. That is why even though a Japanese Fencer is bouting against a Polish fencer French is still used.

  • I love this sport!!!!

  • The Japanese guy's hit for 35 points was sick!

  • seriously, do all of you knuckle heads comparing, "samurai sword" fighting, with fencing, stop. Its embarassing, you probably have no Idea what you are talking about. Fencing isn't about actually hurting people. as you don't see people walking around with functional rapiers or foils.

  • @fleetfingers77 oh yeah of course i dont like comparing the two either, different rule sets and armor, fencing sword is a lot less rigid than the bamboo and i personally only do kendo because i practice other japanese arts and it goes well together, otherwise id be into fencing, its cheaper and a little more direct

  • @fleetfingers77 but i srsly did assume the japan dude would win it just cuz... u know... he's naturally a samurai warrior... and good at math. u know.

  • @fleetfingers77 this kind of reminds me of Taekwondo olympics. they kind of act the same the way they bounce then attack.

  • @fleetfingers77 Seriously, you may as well bitch that a Chess player wouldn't last a minute in a REAL castle siege, and that his fancy moves are no match for having hot oil poured on him from the archer's battlements.

  • @GilbertSmith They call fencing physical chess because once you get past the basic sucking phase you see it's a very mental game. It's not nearly as much about where your opponents blade is, as much as where you expect your opponents blade to be.

  • @fleetfingers77 Um, no. Fencing IS about hurting people. And a fencer was the zenith of bladed martial artists. He was the fastest, most precise, most agile, most skilled, most athletic and thus most deadly warrior to ever hold a blade. The Japanese martial artist was primitive and backwards in comparison.

  • @TaskForceSixTwoSix what happens when that flimsy metal wire hits full armor and your body gets sliced in half by a katana or english broadsword?

  • @Amagieke it's One more time by Daft Punk

  • A wireless system would be better because then you could have more than just 2 swordsmen fighting each other you could have multiple swordsman playing at the same time and have teams.

  • @Dimitri0809 wireless systems interfere with eachother and are sometimes unlreliable

  • Ota got passive and tried to sit on the lead; it cost him.

  • Watch the parry riposte at 4:00. Mind boggling speed.

  • DAFT PUNK!!!!:P

  • Why do they keep stopping when no one even lays a hit?

  • @mdusablo

    Because in foil, you can only hit the proper target area and whenever you land a touch off-target, action stops.

  • glonek is wrecking ota, like one after another

  • awww i like the song at the beginning :) i would love to fence to it lol

  • Hey, if you guys have a problem take it on the strip, chose your weapon! =D Thats what my coach always told me if we ever got in an argument =D

  • One M0:00RE time!

  • to be honest i got no swords skills at all, but if say i'm holding a foil, i would not have the balls to try and attack someone with a samurai sword. having said that, it might be a different mentally in the hands of professionals. To my understanding, samurai sword comes in different specs; difference in weight and length. but even if some swings the lightest samurai sword at me... it doesn't take a genius to know my only option is to dodge instead of trying to parry or block the attack

  • @jimmytrance There is also the difference between a katana and a foil/epee/or saber. A katana is sharp, fencing blades including the saber are not. You hold them differently, stand differently, and move differently. You attack and defend differently. It is not easy to dodge a fencing blade since they are light and easy to have change directions. You can't compare the two. Yes I dodge in fencing, but I can't do it all the time if I have any chance of reposting the attack (attacking back).

  • You can tell who the japanese one is, Hes bouncing around like Bruce lee.......

  • omg... poland sucks

  • but imagine this with the real swords

  • What terrible fencers. Not one backflip, summersault, swinging chandelier thrust, or a pair of pants cut from the waist to expose a pair of silly underwear. YAAWWWNN.

  • lame i wanted to see a beheading

  • @Amagiekethe name of the artist is daftpunk i think the name is one more time, but if it isnt the name of the artist should help you find it

    

  • DAFT PUNK yeah

  • is he flipping us off at 6:06

  • go watch epee. then you see if it is boring

  • wow this sport seems like a waste of your prescious time.

  • @conman2317 Yeah, as opposed to all the practical uses of something like baseball or soccer. Why did you even watch this video?

  • it you took skills in improved poisons, only takes 1 cut to kill hamlet.

  • DAFT PUNK IN THE BACKGROUND FUUUUUUUUUUCK YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  • if you slow the entire video down to 1/100 of a sec and then watch you will find its the exact same video....only slower!

  • why are you all talking about the real life usefullness of the foil sword its just a sport and these guys over there are amazingly precise and fast you d better talk about them and not for these useless staff

  • @sendirLP fencing isnt a sport

  • @TheMcsnails Have you ever fenced before?

    Try it and report back.

  • @mrb45

    Only 1 vs 1, I've seen a fencing match where there were 10 guy's and it was a 5 on 5 team match. I wonder if that would work.

  • @TheMcsnails

    so what is it?

    guess you didnt even try this sport! haha

  • @LordOswald its an excuse for people with no lives to get girls by playing a sport

  • @TheMcsnails Why don't you try this sport and if you could win even a medal, come back here

  • World's most useless martial art!!

  • @sdtgonzalez on the contrary, a flail-type sword like those used in fencing are what would be considered a fluid weapon. While more traditional weapons tend to be heavier and rely of fixed movements, a flimsy looking weapon like a foil is technically faster with less movement and therefore more agile. A long thin sword moved faster and can whip around a bulkier sword which would rely on thrusts and swings.

  • @wtfan But is still useless. Whats the possibility of you having a flail-type sword in a REAL situation.