The mind is like a sword. If you do not use it but there is oil it will be fine. If you use it to fight you will have bent the edge and may eventually have a saw. But if you treat it carefully and it is made well, it will be fine. But if you go outside with it and it rains, hard it will rust. But if you want around with it and you drop it on the ground, it will not be good for the evening afternoon blade battle against hitoshi. Because you know why.
Pain is essential to the process, as something hurts you are forced to focus on the pain, if you zen long enough (i mean years of standing zen) you will be able to turn pain into endorphins, Kenichi Sawai describes it as "you will experience great refreshment from the pain." Read his definitive 1979 Japan Press book on the subject online at Tai-ki-ken pages and verify it for yourself and learn more about standing zen, peace...
i just started doing this kind of exercise last week. I can only keep it for 5minutes as well, but I plan to increase it every week with 2 minutes or more. My Kyokushin teacher in indonesia said i have to be able to do each pose for 20 minutes at least. is it even possible?
@FaridYM yes, my own timed record is 90 minutes. The old masters said that when you could zen for 30 to 60 minutes you were really zenning and i would agree with them. Zenning for even a few minutes is good for you and great exercise and when you do it for extended periods of time you really begin to benefit from it.
All internal martial arts in China use this posture as fundamental training.
Taikiken (Yiquan in China) is just one of many that use this posture as the fundamental one. The bitch about this posture, is learning to hold it, so that your energy, nor your muscles, hold you up. In other words, you hold that posture, for a solid hour, completely pain free, if you feel pain or strain, you're doing it wrong. I still can't get past 30 minutes doing that "tree hugger" stuff.
its not so much that youre doing it wrong if you feel pain, its more that your nervous system is offering resistance, which is natural when we ask our bodies to do something that is different than normal. if we can relax and smile to the pain and let it go, then it is at these moments that we make our breakthroughs. i wish you all the best with your practice.
So is it like this: inhalation is accompanied by raising of the abdomen and exhalation is the abdomen lowering? If it is, then it is exactly the opposite of Chinese taijiquan! Which would not remove the effectiveness! I'd like to know.
actually there are two types of abdomenal breathing , the one u are talking about is the inversion of the natural breathing , which highly stimulates energy cicle , but it cannot be done all the time , if u do the breathing that i descriped in taiji it will also be effective .
That's good to know... I'll try the more natural abdominal breathing. I had the impression that the natural abdominal breathing was very rare in Chinese taiji, but not rare in high-level qi gong. Turns out, I already practice the natural breathing in Tibetan style meditation, and I do the reverse breathing in daoist/chan buddhism style meditation. Some people, therefore teach the reverse breathing before the natural, if I'm not mistaken. What I knew about the reverse: too much = headache.
yes , too much of it is not good , it stimulates enrgy , but too much heat burns , so u can use the reverse breathing for some time and then normal breathing in the same exercise , hower , normal breathin should be used all the time , even when ur not training .
@MaBu888 This is not Taiji nor is it Qigong. It is Jangshen Zhan Zhuang (health standing pole) of the Yiquan school. We don't particular concentrate on breathing, instead we focus on relaxation and imagine that we are standing in water gently floating. Relaxed breathing is just a part of the holistic exercise.
could not disagree with you more ahmed, i have zenned for 30 years and while it is true that the practice itself leads to deep breathing while you zen the last thing i would ever tell some one is how to breath while zenning, standing zen cultivates the sub-conscious mind like no other activity i know of, why distract from the process by concentrating on deep breathing, that will happen as a matter of course as they continue to zen, peace...
The mind is like a sword. If you do not use it but there is oil it will be fine. If you use it to fight you will have bent the edge and may eventually have a saw. But if you treat it carefully and it is made well, it will be fine. But if you go outside with it and it rains, hard it will rust. But if you want around with it and you drop it on the ground, it will not be good for the evening afternoon blade battle against hitoshi. Because you know why.
philsnk 1 year ago
it's more known as taichi basic exercise called "column" or "pillar" (how is better?)///
Siddthartha 2 years ago
@Siddthartha This standing exercise is not originally in Tai Chi. It has it's origin in Xing Yi Quan.
paragate 1 year ago
pain is good .. if u not feel pain , u dont know were your mistakes are, if u just do it 5 min. u do not get better.
NassemAir 2 years ago
Pain is essential to the process, as something hurts you are forced to focus on the pain, if you zen long enough (i mean years of standing zen) you will be able to turn pain into endorphins, Kenichi Sawai describes it as "you will experience great refreshment from the pain." Read his definitive 1979 Japan Press book on the subject online at Tai-ki-ken pages and verify it for yourself and learn more about standing zen, peace...
jimmydemoret 2 years ago
@NassemAir
i just started doing this kind of exercise last week. I can only keep it for 5minutes as well, but I plan to increase it every week with 2 minutes or more. My Kyokushin teacher in indonesia said i have to be able to do each pose for 20 minutes at least. is it even possible?
FaridYM 11 months ago
@FaridYM yes, my own timed record is 90 minutes. The old masters said that when you could zen for 30 to 60 minutes you were really zenning and i would agree with them. Zenning for even a few minutes is good for you and great exercise and when you do it for extended periods of time you really begin to benefit from it.
jimmydemoret 9 months ago
All internal martial arts in China use this posture as fundamental training.
Taikiken (Yiquan in China) is just one of many that use this posture as the fundamental one. The bitch about this posture, is learning to hold it, so that your energy, nor your muscles, hold you up. In other words, you hold that posture, for a solid hour, completely pain free, if you feel pain or strain, you're doing it wrong. I still can't get past 30 minutes doing that "tree hugger" stuff.
stardingo747 2 years ago
its not so much that youre doing it wrong if you feel pain, its more that your nervous system is offering resistance, which is natural when we ask our bodies to do something that is different than normal. if we can relax and smile to the pain and let it go, then it is at these moments that we make our breakthroughs. i wish you all the best with your practice.
partyeli 2 years ago
what is the name of this music please???
MICHAELMELCHIZEDEK1 2 years ago
what is taikiken..tell me someone
leochidori99 3 years ago
good tunes
jolandasterbloem 3 years ago
great , u only forgot to mention the abdomenal breathing , which is the most important , without it , the rest is useless
ahmednabil 3 years ago
So is it like this: inhalation is accompanied by raising of the abdomen and exhalation is the abdomen lowering? If it is, then it is exactly the opposite of Chinese taijiquan! Which would not remove the effectiveness! I'd like to know.
MaBu888 3 years ago
actually there are two types of abdomenal breathing , the one u are talking about is the inversion of the natural breathing , which highly stimulates energy cicle , but it cannot be done all the time , if u do the breathing that i descriped in taiji it will also be effective .
ahmednabil 3 years ago
That's good to know... I'll try the more natural abdominal breathing. I had the impression that the natural abdominal breathing was very rare in Chinese taiji, but not rare in high-level qi gong. Turns out, I already practice the natural breathing in Tibetan style meditation, and I do the reverse breathing in daoist/chan buddhism style meditation. Some people, therefore teach the reverse breathing before the natural, if I'm not mistaken. What I knew about the reverse: too much = headache.
MaBu888 3 years ago
yes , too much of it is not good , it stimulates enrgy , but too much heat burns , so u can use the reverse breathing for some time and then normal breathing in the same exercise , hower , normal breathin should be used all the time , even when ur not training .
ahmednabil 3 years ago
@MaBu888 This is not Taiji nor is it Qigong. It is Jangshen Zhan Zhuang (health standing pole) of the Yiquan school. We don't particular concentrate on breathing, instead we focus on relaxation and imagine that we are standing in water gently floating. Relaxed breathing is just a part of the holistic exercise.
paragate 1 year ago
@paragate
I should have known.
MaBu888 1 year ago
could not disagree with you more ahmed, i have zenned for 30 years and while it is true that the practice itself leads to deep breathing while you zen the last thing i would ever tell some one is how to breath while zenning, standing zen cultivates the sub-conscious mind like no other activity i know of, why distract from the process by concentrating on deep breathing, that will happen as a matter of course as they continue to zen, peace...
jimmydemoret 3 years ago
Thanks for the video.
Good information.
akira7r 4 years ago