When I was 14 I told my mom strait up that I didn't believe in god. If she freaked then I would have been ok with her decision. Thankfully she didn't freak, but idk if she cares about me being an atheist or if she still thinks I'm on the fence seeing as I told her at a young age.
my question is: Why the fuck is it so necessary to tell your parents you're atheist? All these kids are so proud that they told their christian parents off about religion - what the hell is the point to make an actual statement? My disbelief in god is immovable, like my parents belief in god - so why start a huge conflict?
@mackles I hope that you never have to worry about such a situation. But for many people, the religious pressure they get from the parents is overwhelming. They feel the need to let the parents know so that perhaps they will back off a bit. Then again, perhaps it's a simple matter of integrity for some when their parents ask them to "bow their heads" for prayer at dinner and they don't want to "go through the motions" to avoid a fight and prefer to have their opinions known.
@KingHeathen so its just too much to bow your lazy ass head at prayer for the parents who raised you? I moved out of my parents, but when I visit, I go to church with my mom - she has an idea that I don't believe in god, but it makes her happy that i go. Parents will figure it out on their own. All that announcing atheists to religious parents is going to do is alter their view of you and turn every day into an attempt bring you back because they can't fathom you're belief. Unnecessary.
@mackles Lazy? It has nothing to do with lazy. And if you don't understand that then I see no point in discussing it with someone who can't hold a simple civil conversation with someone without taking weak pot shots at them. Get over yourself.
@KingHeathen And also, I've already worried about it years ago, and been through the painful transistion...and got over it. That was my biggest fear of what my parents would think, until I realized I never had to tell them lol
I honestly plan to keep my atheism till im 18 then drop the bomb and watch them squirm. (If you didn't get from that statement I don't like my family... at all. direct to extended they can all burn I don't care) Do you think that's a good plan or is it a wimp move.
@Joflyer0211 Wimpy? No...spiteful, Yes. I don't know your family or the problems you have with them. But I'd warn you not to deliberately burn any bridges that you don't have to.
@KingHeathen Ai... Allow to explain a bit so I don't come off as a complete asshole. Well first off, I'm waiting till 18 'cause anytime before will mean me in absolute misery. Second, I don't deluge (?) into my personal life too much, but let me tell you this. I have scars from when I've been hit with a belt. If my mother had it her way, computers (One of the, like, 5-6 things I have to live for) wouldn't even exist. Not because she thinks their( She does though) But so I can't go on. Nuff said.
I live in a town that is very religious, so religious that it's like the South (I live in MI). I come to find out, two of my teachers are Atheist. I was so fricken excited, you have no clue. Seriously, many teachers in my school have a hard time keeping religion out of class, so finding out two teachers (their married) in my school are Atheist is just plain awesome.
I haven't told my mum at all that I'm an atheist. I do think she's borderline agnostic- yet I'm not sure. She was raised Apostolic turned Lutheran and doesn't like church (last time either of us went was my confirmation) but I don't want to get her upset over anything. I even discretely hide my new copy of "the God Delusion" from her. NONE of my Xian friends know I'm an atheist yet, only some of my pagan/agnostic/atheist friends/cousins do. I've been testing the waters for a few months now.
I told my parents that I'm Atheist, only to find out they're Atheist themselves, they just never told anybody because the rest of my familie is very religious :D Got lucky there
I'm going to have to spend the rest of my life at somewhat awkward odds with my parents (though fortunately they aren't so strict that they won't be willing to push things under the rug and still be friends with their own kid).
i'm bisexual and atheist. =__= it sucks. i've told my mom i don't believe in god. she, doesn't like it and she still mentions god to me. i haven't told my dad about my atheism though. i haven't told anyone, except the internet, that i am bisexual. >__> i think my mom wouldn't mind too much, seeing how she has empathy towards gays/lesbians. my dad.... he's a neo-conservative homophobic christian... nuff said? i'm a liberal bisexual atheist. i'm everything he hates... =___= it's a shame.
@KingHeathen same here. i don't know why. but i do know that is feels way more difficult to say i'm bisexual than it is to admit i'm a atheist. it's odd it works that way. i don't know i guess it depends on the parent, of course.
@deeronjepsuhn wow... that would suck. if you are foreign and you become president, that would be really awesome, to have a bisexual atheist president
I had a conversation with a few lesbian atheists last night and we talked about that precise thing. It appears that declaring that you are an atheist is tougher according to their experiences. Which seems odd to me. I'd think it would be the other way around.
As would I seeing as it was quite the opposite for myself it was easier telling my parents I was an atheist over that I was a TS go figure but hey who knows (unless of course someone could do a servery of this very topic) well anyway thanks for the comment back I find your video quite enlightening and entertaining keep up the good work ^_~
Ah, my dad is agnostic/atheist and my mom knows and is concerned for me but won't go out of her way. I actually came out with it when my dad's friend asked if I had faith or even believed and I shook my head. My dad didn't look at it. My parents, friends, and close family friends are tolerant of my lifestyle. Now, if I told my very religious aunt, I'd be buttholed so she'll find out herself when I'm away.
I'm a 15-year-old High-School Sophomore, and my story on this is a bit different... I stopped believing in God at the age of... 9-10-years-old. When I was 11, I was outside in the back yard and my sister's friend comes to play, and we start talking. The subject of God comes up and me being the innocent and unknowing person I was, said I didn't believe in God. My sister freaks out, runs inside, and immediately tells my mom I didn't believe, which was followed by my mom chastising me about it.
Now, I just went along with what she said and backed out as soon as possible and kinda started to hide, but I brought up the subject a few times just to test the water and since have slowly tested the water as you put it and tried to slowly make her realize that not believing in God isn't this horrible thing that she's been brainwashed into thinking. Of course I'm forced to go to church every now and then, but I can move out in three years either way it goes.
But I think you have a really good method here for people who want to tell their parents. I have used similar tactics to find out my mother's position on certain things. I found out that she will not be convinced out of her beliefs (the curtain experiment I mentioned in my other comment) and that she will probably freak out about my nonbelief. I'm okay with not telling her for awhile.
My uncle believes the bible literally, he is utterly convinced that Obama is the antichrist and the end of the world will come during our lifetime.
My mom said that she would still believe that an angel was moving the curtains even if I showed her the fan that was actually doing it. She cites the bible to fight gay marriage without ever having read it.
... My lips are sealed about atheism until I finish college. I love them but I'm not risking my future on their compartmentalized BS.
oh geez.. so basically my WHOLE freeking family is strongly devout.. seriously i think I have like 2 uncles who aren't religious but believe in god.. I'm the only atheist.. FML. i kid i love my life =P but there's no way i can tell them.. they would freak.
if u only have two years left before u can get out do u think its worth telling them? i know i cant tell my dad but im wondering about my mom.
im not atheist actually im wiccan but its the same when u "come out of the closet" about it. the biggest difference is that its a practicing religion so...
I agree that you will have the same concerns as an atheist...but bizarrely, I've seen far too often the horrible logic of "well at least she believes in SOMETHING"
LOL...In fact, you might start by saying you don't believe in Jesus...and when they freak out about you being an atheist, you say "No no...I'm wiccan" Then they will say "WHEW! That was a close one."
they only thing is that it takes a lot of explaining before they realized that its not satanic and im not sacrificeing goats or something. im afraid they will jump to conclusions. and i dont want my mom to freakout thinking im gonna go straight to hell. eventually i think ill try saying something. i have tested the waters a little but. anyway...
perhaps you can test the waters a bit more with the old "A friend of mine told me she was a wiccan....what do you think about that?" and see how they respond. If they throw out the "sacrificing goats" bit...you can reply, "Oh no, she told me that that is a misconception and that its nothing like that."
My story is kind of the opposite. My immediate family flipped out a lot more than my extended family. Don't get me wrong. My parents and brothers got over it eventually, but it comes up every once in a while and they kind of give me the cold shoulder. My extended family however was a lot more tolerant, and some of them are also agnostic atheists and the others that aren't rely on scientific evidence more than dogma.
when i told my parents, my mom didnt freak out at first, she wasnt the type to do that i went on for about 2 weeks thinking she was understanding then she freakd, well my solution to that little problame was deconversion, i deconverted my mom which deconverted my whole household family
My grandma was a sunday school teacher for fifty years, dad for a few months. All my relatives are the type who shove it down people's throats. Like, my dad puts religious tracks EVERYWHERE. All Kenny wears are God tshirts, and whenever I get even the least bit sacriligious, he flips out and goes cold. Well, I just can't say what I think about this christianity junk. They'll smite me. They already weren't fond of the fact that I'm for Obama, so... well.
I feel ya dude...I'm a Democrat (just liberal really...), I'm an Atheist, and I regularly teach Atheism to the kids around me at school. I've already "deconverted" around 10 kids...but I just can't find a way to tell my family!!!! AAAAAAAAAH!!!
I'm not really in position to tell my parents about my atheism yet. I'm only 16, so i'm still relatively dependent on them. And I doubt that they will be very tolerant of my decision, seeing as my dad got extremely angry, and said that I was going to go to hell when I refused to be baptized.
good decision, I would definately hold out until you are independent, not that they would kick u out, but they could really make ur life hell for the next 2 years, amazing how intolerant religious people can be, especially since their religion is supposed to teach tolerance, there is a lot more preaching tolerance in the church and a lot less teaching,, there is a huge difference, anyhow again good decision and hang in there shit will get better eventually
blah blah, ted haggard, blah blah,, friggin hilarious, yeah, im sorry for all the people who have to go through this, i wish everyones religious loved ones were as easy as kingheathens parents, mine, not so much, one thing to remember if u are out of the house and are talking with your parents about this be prepared for the worst and dont back down, they will either get over it, or not speak to you, as mine did, either way you are better off, if you are in the house wait till your out if u can
Being a democrat or republican is a belief system. So I guess those are religions too. Regardless of if they are or aren't...what does that even prove?
I call you a fool and I'm not a 2000 year old book written by ignorant sheep herders.
based on what? Just because blacks outnumber Native Americans, that doesn't make blacks NOT a minority.
Why would having less blacks than atheists not make us a minority? The question isn't who's the smallest minority...it's what is the percentage of theists to atheists? And with that, we are a minority.
I'm in a pretty awkward time right now. My mom emailed me a story about a Dutch man who built a full-scale Ark according to biblical dimensions. When I told her that I didn't believe Noah's Ark was to be taken literally, she immediately freaked out and thought that I was on a slippery slope and would soon tell her I'm an agnostic. She said she'd rather I told her I was gay than tell her I was agnostic (this is just to give you some perspective on the seriousness of this issue).
If you want to tell your parents, best to tough it out until you are independent from them (your own job, house, transportation, etc). Prepare for the worst. If your parents think you are going to go to hell then nothing will be more important to them than getting you to reconvert and they will use any means necessary. Go along with anything they want you to do until you are out of college and on your own.
What does an atheist under 18 do if your parents are very religious? I have been in that very situation, and my only advice is just to keep quite until you're 18 and move out. I didn't, and my parents actually had an exocism performed on me (seriously). They censored all of my books, my friends, and treated me like a criminal even though I never touched drugs, alcohol, sex, etc. If your parents are fundies, it's just not worth it. Their minds are shut, and sadly they'll chose the Bible over you.
Shoot, man... thats twisted stuff. Isn't it sad when things like this break apart families? It isn't worth it... except the 'fundies' as you call them think it is. Its a no win situation, there.
Oh, and isn't this a contradiction? jesus was jesus and god. He died and was born, while god has no beginning or ending. He was ressurected, but how can jesus be ressurected if he is a god? and we all know ressurection can only happen if the person is dead. gods cannot die, but jesus is god and he died? i tell ya, it makes no sense to me at all. the only true god is the FSM. Please think about this kingheathen or you will spend eternity in burning Ragu. RAmen! i'm sorry, i just had to.
Jesus spirit contained natures of God and man. It's like two triangles attached together but not overlaping. So basically everything is seperated by natures. If Jesus died it was him as a man, or if he always existed it was him as God. Weird, but I don't see anything logically contradictory especially since you probably don't even have a clear definition of what a spirit is. That doesn't mean it makes sense to me either.
I was responding to your assertion that Jesus is God and man is a contradiction. I don't have to know how it might be possible for God to be man. All I was saying is I see no contradiction.
"it just sounds ludicrous."
So does string theory. Nobody has an answer for the origin of the universe that is understandible. I just use logic and what we do know about science to come up with a possibility. I'd rather believe in a first cause then the ludicrous infinte regress of causes.
my grandpa said i was gointo hell and hes told me that till the day i moved. If god loved all his children... why would he torture them? Even if your an amazing person, save lives, give to charity, you dont beleive in him, you will suffer. if he is real he has a big fuckin ego.
Having the christian religion forced upon me my hole life, i want nothing to do with it. I saw all the flaws in the religion. it was sick and disgusting. You see a completely happy couple of gays and you say they should burn in hell for happiness?? God is so mean from what i hear. my granpa once said, You beleive in god? i was young, i said Ive never met the guy, no.
It was really easy. We never went to church. My mom grew up hearing the hypocritical dad of hers babble on about jesus all day long, i heard it too, day one (birth), to when we finally moved out, Mom moved out finally at 37 and me at 17. He talked about how he HATED gays, then said he LOVES all people. He said he believed in slavery, yet LOVED all people. Said they were equal. I questioned his religion once and he flipped. We moved out at that point. I told my mom. I never believed it...
My family isn't understand :/ They are driving me insane. I feel like I am the only rational and understanding one in the house. It is quite sick and disturbing how they continue to force their theology down my throat and not respecting my wishes. Thank you for the video anyway KingHeathen!
I can assure you that if I ever told my grandparents something along the lines of "I don't know if everything in the Bible is true" they would start rebuking me and expect demons to literally come out of me. When that doesn't happen they will just stop speaking to me because of "be ye a separate people". I wasn't allowed to have my best friend since kindergarten come over to the house because she had a girlfriend for about a month once.
not everyone is as lucky as you are to have that lack of hate...but at the same time, loving someone because you "feel sorrow for them" is known as a "pity"...and I don't NEED my family's "pity"
How you come out as an atheist, is to first come out as another religion that your parents do not like, then fold and say you don't believe in religion at all. They will be (hopefully) more relieved that you are not in the other religion. That is what I did, except the whole conversion thing wasn't a deception, but it did serve to make my conversion to agnostism more readily accepted, though converting from one religion to another is hard enough.
We have talks about religion every now and then and he keeps trying to "bring me back" but every time I ask him a question that he can't answer and he walks away. I think now he's starting to realize I've done more research about this subject than he thought. Like you Heathen I haven't told my aunts, uncles and cousins yet but I'm not ashamed of what I am and nor should any of us be!! I am a proud Agnostic Atheist and I'm tired of being seen as a freak because I don't believe in a fairy tale!
He hasn't completely accepted it, he kind of just lets me have it. He keeps telling me that he's not worried about it cause one day I'll "find" God again but the problem with that is I always had a problem in believing in God or at least the stories in the bible. He told me the story of Adam and Eve when I was six and even at six I knew there was something wrong with the story. I didn't know exactly what it was at the time but something just wasn't right.
I pretty much kept what I thought to myself until I was 19. That's when I started telling people. It's not right what happens to some people when they "come out the closet". It's like a story I saw on 20/20 about a girl name Nicole Smalkowski. It broke my heart to hear what the people in her town and school did and said about her. If you don't know cut and paste this in the You Tube search engine; "The Price of Atheism", you'll understand what I'm talking about.
I was terrified the day I finally told my Dad cause I had no clue how he was going to take it. I thought he was going to snap and disown me or kick me out the house or something. I never would have conceived the reaction I got; he broke down crying. I was standing there thinking; "What the hell? He's crying because I told him I have a problem with the idea of a monotheistic God?" In the end he hugged me and told me he loved me and that was that.
I guess that is a good reaction. He loves you, and doesn't want you to go to Hell. If only he knew that Hell wasn't real either, he could feel better. Theists beleive that just believing something makes it true. So shouldn't not believing something make it false?
I really don't think that's the reason. See my dad paid lip service to Christianity for years. He always said he believed but he very rarely read the bible until recently and never went to church until recently. I think the reason why my dad's leaning on his faith a lot more now is because he's in his mid 60s. So I think he's realizing that he doesn't have that much time left and it's scaring him.
He has another 10, 15 if he's lucky, so I think now that he's at this point in his life he wants to believe that there is something more than just this life. I can understand that and appreciate that but at the same time, since I gave up my faith it made me appreciate this life a lot more. Since I realized that this is the only life you get it makes me want to live this life as much as I can and not waste it on a 2000 year old fairy tale!
To me, the idea of no afterlife is more comforting than the idea of an afterlife. I wish my dad did realize that there is no heaven and hell and no afterlife too, because he would realize that death is the end and with the end means he never has to worry about anything again.
He never has to worry about the bills, the car payments, the mortgage, the mistakes he's made over his life time, it all goes away in death. I guess that might sound perverse or insane to some people, but that's how I view it.
When I finally told my parents what I was it was like a great weight was off my shoulders. I wasn't worried about telling my mom cause she's cool and not religious at all. I could have told her that I think the universe was farted out some giant's ass and were all the bacteria that came out and she still would have been cool about it, that's just how my mom is. My Dad was a completely different story. My dad and my extended family on his side are largely devout Roman Catholics.
If you tell your parents that you're an atheist, chances are that they'll be alright with it as long as you demonstrate that you've thought about it and done your research. My parents tend to make comments to me from time to time that mock my beliefs (or lack thereof), but they're pretty cool with it most of the time. I've never known anyone who was disowned for not believing in god.
I have...it happens. Don't delude yourself into thinking that it doesn't. Now...in fairness, it happens less now than 10 years ago...and should be less even more in another 10 years...but it does happen quite a bit.
You wear a ring on the wedding ring finger. Does this mean you are married and if so; where did you get married? Marriage is a by-product of Christianity, correct? Yet...you honor it. In your rantings against You claim to havestupid people of faith I sense pagan hedonistic pleasures are to be lived, cherished and defended. What is wedlock? You are removed from those shackles - fornicate with as many woman as you can and who cares if any become pregnant. Marriage? Wedlock?
We got married in Las Vegas in a civil ceremony. The only reason we got married was for legal and economic reasons (cheaper insurance, tax deductions, health care issues, etc) Marriage existed LONG before Christianity and exists OUTSIDE Christianity. Now...go educate yourself and get a real logical argument before you try me again.
I am a average person. Lives a average life, goes to Church on sunday, get mad theres school on monday, I screw around on Saturday. You see I go to Church on Sunday because it gets me away from the chaos of the world for a day. So if I'm happy doing that then just accept it. If your happy being a heathen then thats cool. But I just get a good feeling going to Church every Sunday.
Airsofter, I don't recall telling you not to go to church. You can go worship fairies in the garden for all I care...just don't try to push your beliefs on me or my children unless I/we/they ask you to. Perhaps YOU don't...others don't share your view.
My mom is a devout Catholic, my dad is a non-practicing Protestant. I simply told them "This Bible stuff is nonsense, I'm not going to church anymore because it's nothing but a scam." And they said "Okay". And that was the end of it. I guess I'm luckier than most.
You are old enough to live your own life. You should not lie to the people that you love. It can be good for the short term, but don't keep it a secret forever.
it is hard when you share differing views from your family and friends. It is always wise to step with caution when dealing with those you care about. It is unfortunate when a closed mind causes these problems, regardless of the reason. Good solution. That is how I have handled similar instances in my own life.
"the atheists guide to fucking up thanks giving" . step 1: spontaneously blurt out"there is no god" while family say grace - atleast the context was apt. step 2 - refer to god as sky daddy just to set the tone. step 3 - perform an atheist challenge just to prove your not kidding. step 4 - refuse to pray for gradma having caused her cardiac arrest as a form of protest. good vid king.
My Father's side of the Family were all Deist and Atheist and Agnostic, ( my Dad is 77) My Mothers side are all Christians . I never speak to my mother's side of the Family, not in decades, because of this., but life is good.Your better off with out Family , if they can not accept you for who you are.
if their worried about college money.. I think *I* would wait until I am out of the house in a dorm room :P. So they couldn't legally do a damn thing about that..
BUT I am a family full of people who don't talk about religion that much (Only talk about it with my dad, and he is clearly atheist, but my mom and brother.. no idea) So it is easy for me to say that.
Although my mom goes to church almost every sunday, she fucking hates George Bush and everything about the religious right. The God in which she believes loves good people like her son despite the fact that he is an atheist : ). It wasn't that big of deal. My mom is a saint plain and simple. My dad won't say it but I think the older he gets the more he doesn't believe in God.
I became an atheist during my years at college. I didn't have to tell my parents that I'm an atheist, they just kind of figured it out. They are very understanding about it, and I really appreciate that about them. I am glad to have my parents, rather than the parents of that other kid.
Good advice! I'm pretty lucky that I never had to worry about telling my parents. My mom slowly caught on because I talked to her about religion all the time, so by the time I realized I was an atheist, both of us knew by then. And then a few months of discussions later, my mom became one too. XD
Oddly enough, it's easier for me to hide that I'm a lesbian than it is to hide that I'm an atheist. I guess I'm one of the few exceptions.
Barely knowing my father, I had to tell him I'm an atheist *and* that I quit AA a few years ago (still don't drink, though). We wound up having a decent talk about it during my visit. (More later)))))))
it's a bit hard to hide if your gay if you'v been caught with your significant other. cos then youv been busted and you can't hide anymore. can you Ted Haggard. LMAOROFL
Sounds like a good approach for someone in that position.I never had that problem since I've been atheist since birth and I don't care a bit what anyone thinks about that.If religious people can't deal with it then to bad for them.
My mother didn't have a choice but to accept (father is an atheist already, but feigns neutrality between me and mom on subject). I waited until I moved out and had no dependency on them, and when mom started her usualy homilizing, I fought back with the full arsenal. No punishment (unlike when I lived with them and tested waters). That's my advice
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Wow KH, this is the third version I've heard of your religious upbringings. In the first version you were a devout Christian from a strict religious family who spent "twenty years of my life in the church". In the second version you were always being told that you should go to church by family and friends, but you were too much of a rebel. Now, in your latest version you're just from a sort of lukewarm, wishy-washy Christian family. Getting hard to keep it all straight?
CapnOblivious...let me clarify since you are too retarded to understand. My FAMILY meaning Grandparents and Uncles and everyone...were very religious. My PARENTS, mom and dad, weren't. I have no idea what this "second version" you talk about is...but the first and third is simply a mix of the two sides of PARENTS vs FAMILY. Fuck off and go away, you are a retarded asshole with nothing better than to waste your time with bothering me. Go back to your 15 subscriber channel and fuck yourself.
lol, CapnOblivious. You haven't been paying much attention have you. I can see how you came up with one and three, but where the hell did you come up with number two.
When I was 14 I told my mom strait up that I didn't believe in god. If she freaked then I would have been ok with her decision. Thankfully she didn't freak, but idk if she cares about me being an atheist or if she still thinks I'm on the fence seeing as I told her at a young age.
MirageScience 1 year ago
my question is: Why the fuck is it so necessary to tell your parents you're atheist? All these kids are so proud that they told their christian parents off about religion - what the hell is the point to make an actual statement? My disbelief in god is immovable, like my parents belief in god - so why start a huge conflict?
mackles 1 year ago
@mackles I hope that you never have to worry about such a situation. But for many people, the religious pressure they get from the parents is overwhelming. They feel the need to let the parents know so that perhaps they will back off a bit. Then again, perhaps it's a simple matter of integrity for some when their parents ask them to "bow their heads" for prayer at dinner and they don't want to "go through the motions" to avoid a fight and prefer to have their opinions known.
KingHeathen 1 year ago 4
@KingHeathen so its just too much to bow your lazy ass head at prayer for the parents who raised you? I moved out of my parents, but when I visit, I go to church with my mom - she has an idea that I don't believe in god, but it makes her happy that i go. Parents will figure it out on their own. All that announcing atheists to religious parents is going to do is alter their view of you and turn every day into an attempt bring you back because they can't fathom you're belief. Unnecessary.
mackles 1 year ago
@mackles Lazy? It has nothing to do with lazy. And if you don't understand that then I see no point in discussing it with someone who can't hold a simple civil conversation with someone without taking weak pot shots at them. Get over yourself.
KingHeathen 1 year ago 4
@KingHeathen And also, I've already worried about it years ago, and been through the painful transistion...and got over it. That was my biggest fear of what my parents would think, until I realized I never had to tell them lol
mackles 1 year ago
I honestly plan to keep my atheism till im 18 then drop the bomb and watch them squirm. (If you didn't get from that statement I don't like my family... at all. direct to extended they can all burn I don't care) Do you think that's a good plan or is it a wimp move.
Joflyer0211 1 year ago
@Joflyer0211 Wimpy? No...spiteful, Yes. I don't know your family or the problems you have with them. But I'd warn you not to deliberately burn any bridges that you don't have to.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen Ai... Allow to explain a bit so I don't come off as a complete asshole. Well first off, I'm waiting till 18 'cause anytime before will mean me in absolute misery. Second, I don't deluge (?) into my personal life too much, but let me tell you this. I have scars from when I've been hit with a belt. If my mother had it her way, computers (One of the, like, 5-6 things I have to live for) wouldn't even exist. Not because she thinks their( She does though) But so I can't go on. Nuff said.
Joflyer0211 1 year ago
@Joflyer0211 All I'll say is "Here's to turning 18!"
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen Here, Here!
Joflyer0211 1 year ago
So, your grandmother is a dumb fuck like all the other christians. Why are you about to cry?
theothernamesaretook 1 year ago
@theothernamesaretook Thanks for sharing...now go play, grown ups are talking.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@theothernamesaretook
ha, I thinking the same thing
southparkhero 1 year ago
See how cold the water is and if its too cold then get back on your lawn chair I like it.
heroesandcons09 1 year ago
I live in a town that is very religious, so religious that it's like the South (I live in MI). I come to find out, two of my teachers are Atheist. I was so fricken excited, you have no clue. Seriously, many teachers in my school have a hard time keeping religion out of class, so finding out two teachers (their married) in my school are Atheist is just plain awesome.
Raindancer737 1 year ago
@Raindancer737 Just clarifying...the two atheist teachers are married ...to each other (I assume)?
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen Yeah, sorry I didn't make that clearer.
Raindancer737 1 year ago
I haven't told my mum at all that I'm an atheist. I do think she's borderline agnostic- yet I'm not sure. She was raised Apostolic turned Lutheran and doesn't like church (last time either of us went was my confirmation) but I don't want to get her upset over anything. I even discretely hide my new copy of "the God Delusion" from her. NONE of my Xian friends know I'm an atheist yet, only some of my pagan/agnostic/atheist friends/cousins do. I've been testing the waters for a few months now.
AnceyStar 1 year ago
I told my parents that I'm Atheist, only to find out they're Atheist themselves, they just never told anybody because the rest of my familie is very religious :D Got lucky there
blackshadowhinata 1 year ago 4
WOW! I bet you all were relieved to know that after hiding it for so long.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@blackshadowhinata lucky bastard.
I'm going to have to spend the rest of my life at somewhat awkward odds with my parents (though fortunately they aren't so strict that they won't be willing to push things under the rug and still be friends with their own kid).
notthecheatr 1 year ago
deeronjepsuhn 2 years ago
I was just having a conversation about this earlier...
Why do you think it's more of an issue that you are bisexual than atheist? It would seem that it would be the other way around to me.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
@KingHeathen same here. i don't know why. but i do know that is feels way more difficult to say i'm bisexual than it is to admit i'm a atheist. it's odd it works that way. i don't know i guess it depends on the parent, of course.
deeronjepsuhn 2 years ago
@deeronjepsuhn wow... that would suck. if you are foreign and you become president, that would be really awesome, to have a bisexual atheist president
miniski5 1 year ago
I wonder who has it easier coming out a Homosexaul/Transsexaul or an Atheist? And then we have to think of the people who are a combo of the two
AdventNoOmega 2 years ago
I had a conversation with a few lesbian atheists last night and we talked about that precise thing. It appears that declaring that you are an atheist is tougher according to their experiences. Which seems odd to me. I'd think it would be the other way around.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
As would I seeing as it was quite the opposite for myself it was easier telling my parents I was an atheist over that I was a TS go figure but hey who knows (unless of course someone could do a servery of this very topic) well anyway thanks for the comment back I find your video quite enlightening and entertaining keep up the good work ^_~
AdventNoOmega 2 years ago
Thank you for watching!
KingHeathen 2 years ago
Ah, my dad is agnostic/atheist and my mom knows and is concerned for me but won't go out of her way. I actually came out with it when my dad's friend asked if I had faith or even believed and I shook my head. My dad didn't look at it. My parents, friends, and close family friends are tolerant of my lifestyle. Now, if I told my very religious aunt, I'd be buttholed so she'll find out herself when I'm away.
DayLateReviewer 2 years ago
but what if youre wrong
Hstanle1 2 years ago
Pascal's Wager = fail
KingHeathen 2 years ago
I told them when i was very young. Also after a large amount of researched I talked to my brothers and they became atheist :)
sickseller21 2 years ago
I was raised atheist, and so were my parents.
ZeQiR 2 years ago
same lol
KiptaviusFuzz 2 years ago
I'm a 15-year-old High-School Sophomore, and my story on this is a bit different... I stopped believing in God at the age of... 9-10-years-old. When I was 11, I was outside in the back yard and my sister's friend comes to play, and we start talking. The subject of God comes up and me being the innocent and unknowing person I was, said I didn't believe in God. My sister freaks out, runs inside, and immediately tells my mom I didn't believe, which was followed by my mom chastising me about it.
pokekid716 2 years ago
Now, I just went along with what she said and backed out as soon as possible and kinda started to hide, but I brought up the subject a few times just to test the water and since have slowly tested the water as you put it and tried to slowly make her realize that not believing in God isn't this horrible thing that she's been brainwashed into thinking. Of course I'm forced to go to church every now and then, but I can move out in three years either way it goes.
I love your videos, and thanks.
pokekid716 2 years ago
thats exactly what i did...whoaa
wilby4evuh 2 years ago
But I think you have a really good method here for people who want to tell their parents. I have used similar tactics to find out my mother's position on certain things. I found out that she will not be convinced out of her beliefs (the curtain experiment I mentioned in my other comment) and that she will probably freak out about my nonbelief. I'm okay with not telling her for awhile.
Good luck to anyone who's trying.
searenee 2 years ago
My uncle believes the bible literally, he is utterly convinced that Obama is the antichrist and the end of the world will come during our lifetime.
My mom said that she would still believe that an angel was moving the curtains even if I showed her the fan that was actually doing it. She cites the bible to fight gay marriage without ever having read it.
... My lips are sealed about atheism until I finish college. I love them but I'm not risking my future on their compartmentalized BS.
searenee 2 years ago
oh geez.. so basically my WHOLE freeking family is strongly devout.. seriously i think I have like 2 uncles who aren't religious but believe in god.. I'm the only atheist.. FML. i kid i love my life =P but there's no way i can tell them.. they would freak.
JoseEatsAirplane 2 years ago
you say "i'm an atheist but we're family right" and that should say it all. it really should not matter to a rational person..
seestickglue232 2 years ago
if u only have two years left before u can get out do u think its worth telling them? i know i cant tell my dad but im wondering about my mom.
im not atheist actually im wiccan but its the same when u "come out of the closet" about it. the biggest difference is that its a practicing religion so...
what do u think?
buggiemofo2 2 years ago
I agree that you will have the same concerns as an atheist...but bizarrely, I've seen far too often the horrible logic of "well at least she believes in SOMETHING"
LOL...In fact, you might start by saying you don't believe in Jesus...and when they freak out about you being an atheist, you say "No no...I'm wiccan" Then they will say "WHEW! That was a close one."
KingHeathen 2 years ago
lol maybe.
they only thing is that it takes a lot of explaining before they realized that its not satanic and im not sacrificeing goats or something. im afraid they will jump to conclusions. and i dont want my mom to freakout thinking im gonna go straight to hell. eventually i think ill try saying something. i have tested the waters a little but. anyway...
thank you :)
buggiemofo2 2 years ago
perhaps you can test the waters a bit more with the old "A friend of mine told me she was a wiccan....what do you think about that?" and see how they respond. If they throw out the "sacrificing goats" bit...you can reply, "Oh no, she told me that that is a misconception and that its nothing like that."
Just a thought.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
yeah she knows that ive looked at it before becuase that actually did happen. it might not be as bad as i think it will be. not as big of a shock.
thank you for ur help.
blessed be ;)
buggiemofo2 2 years ago
@KingHeathen WICCAN!? HMM!!! Might try that one...
Joflyer0211 1 year ago
How can someone love his religion more than his children?
mtanti87 2 years ago
Because the Bible says so.
/late comment
Gameplayr8891 2 years ago
But it's instinctive!
mtanti87 2 years ago
Instincts can be suppressed. D:
Gameplayr8891 2 years ago
My story is kind of the opposite. My immediate family flipped out a lot more than my extended family. Don't get me wrong. My parents and brothers got over it eventually, but it comes up every once in a while and they kind of give me the cold shoulder. My extended family however was a lot more tolerant, and some of them are also agnostic atheists and the others that aren't rely on scientific evidence more than dogma.
slytherinspy1960 3 years ago
when i told my parents, my mom didnt freak out at first, she wasnt the type to do that i went on for about 2 weeks thinking she was understanding then she freakd, well my solution to that little problame was deconversion, i deconverted my mom which deconverted my whole household family
XxTeamNearxX 3 years ago
My grandma was a sunday school teacher for fifty years, dad for a few months. All my relatives are the type who shove it down people's throats. Like, my dad puts religious tracks EVERYWHERE. All Kenny wears are God tshirts, and whenever I get even the least bit sacriligious, he flips out and goes cold. Well, I just can't say what I think about this christianity junk. They'll smite me. They already weren't fond of the fact that I'm for Obama, so... well.
hemmet220 3 years ago
I feel ya dude...I'm a Democrat (just liberal really...), I'm an Atheist, and I regularly teach Atheism to the kids around me at school. I've already "deconverted" around 10 kids...but I just can't find a way to tell my family!!!! AAAAAAAAAH!!!
SPuckett36 2 years ago
I'm not really in position to tell my parents about my atheism yet. I'm only 16, so i'm still relatively dependent on them. And I doubt that they will be very tolerant of my decision, seeing as my dad got extremely angry, and said that I was going to go to hell when I refused to be baptized.
TheGodlessGuru 3 years ago
good decision, I would definately hold out until you are independent, not that they would kick u out, but they could really make ur life hell for the next 2 years, amazing how intolerant religious people can be, especially since their religion is supposed to teach tolerance, there is a lot more preaching tolerance in the church and a lot less teaching,, there is a huge difference, anyhow again good decision and hang in there shit will get better eventually
xd1rtx 3 years ago
don't be intimidated. im 13 and it worked out for me. just work at it slowly and stand your ground
DakotaTheAtheist 3 years ago
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Yeekininedot 3 years ago
blah blah, ted haggard, blah blah,, friggin hilarious, yeah, im sorry for all the people who have to go through this, i wish everyones religious loved ones were as easy as kingheathens parents, mine, not so much, one thing to remember if u are out of the house and are talking with your parents about this be prepared for the worst and dont back down, they will either get over it, or not speak to you, as mine did, either way you are better off, if you are in the house wait till your out if u can
xd1rtx 3 years ago
mine are cool with plus my dad dosent like the church but my mom gave $8,000 to them omg were losing so much money that my parents made for nothing
TormentedStatue 3 years ago
Thank you very much.... This really helps......
jackiehsu97 3 years ago
what kind of lager or ale is that?
AntiVenomFangX 3 years ago
thanks for this video, i'm in a really tough spot, my family is very strict southern baptist so...yeah
but this did help:)
spam22022 3 years ago 2
Being a democrat or republican is a belief system. So I guess those are religions too. Regardless of if they are or aren't...what does that even prove?
I call you a fool and I'm not a 2000 year old book written by ignorant sheep herders.
KingHeathen 3 years ago
correction, atheists are no longer a minority. there are more of us thank blacks. ppl are now revealing themselves as atheists now.
joecal44 3 years ago
based on what? Just because blacks outnumber Native Americans, that doesn't make blacks NOT a minority.
Why would having less blacks than atheists not make us a minority? The question isn't who's the smallest minority...it's what is the percentage of theists to atheists? And with that, we are a minority.
KingHeathen 3 years ago
uhhhh...unless black were 49.9% of the population...we're still a minority :/
let's all move to sweden
spidydude101 3 years ago 4
I would recommend packing ur jacket ;) its damn cold here.
tanekki 3 years ago
An actual conversation between me(M) and my grandmother(G):
G: So, I heard you resigned from church.
M: Yeah
G: For what reason?
M: I never really believed.. The last drop was reading the Bible.
G: Oh just ignore that, it's just full of shit anyway.
G walked out of the room. I was left staring behind her in complete confusion...
pienipaha 3 years ago 9
wow...I'm with you...I wouldn't know how to take that.
KingHeathen 3 years ago
I'm in a pretty awkward time right now. My mom emailed me a story about a Dutch man who built a full-scale Ark according to biblical dimensions. When I told her that I didn't believe Noah's Ark was to be taken literally, she immediately freaked out and thought that I was on a slippery slope and would soon tell her I'm an agnostic. She said she'd rather I told her I was gay than tell her I was agnostic (this is just to give you some perspective on the seriousness of this issue).
rewards1dude 3 years ago
hahaha a full scale ark!? jesus h christ ! thats hilarious! no offence but your mum is wrong.
SuperHansGruber 3 years ago
If you want to tell your parents, best to tough it out until you are independent from them (your own job, house, transportation, etc). Prepare for the worst. If your parents think you are going to go to hell then nothing will be more important to them than getting you to reconvert and they will use any means necessary. Go along with anything they want you to do until you are out of college and on your own.
rewards1dude 3 years ago
test comment
flamesforfun 3 years ago
don't tell your parents.
two words: trust fund.
3h8b8f1s 3 years ago
What does an atheist under 18 do if your parents are very religious? I have been in that very situation, and my only advice is just to keep quite until you're 18 and move out. I didn't, and my parents actually had an exocism performed on me (seriously). They censored all of my books, my friends, and treated me like a criminal even though I never touched drugs, alcohol, sex, etc. If your parents are fundies, it's just not worth it. Their minds are shut, and sadly they'll chose the Bible over you.
bkelsey4 3 years ago 4
Shoot, man... thats twisted stuff. Isn't it sad when things like this break apart families? It isn't worth it... except the 'fundies' as you call them think it is. Its a no win situation, there.
DeadlyChinchilla 3 years ago 6
I agree with you!!!!
jackiehsu97 3 years ago
Thanks!
wanderingivie 3 years ago
Lucky man, with parents like that. I've got bible humpers.
GeneralFatman27 3 years ago
makunouchi95 3 years ago
"Oh, and isn't this a contradiction?
jesus was jesus and god."
Jesus spirit contained natures of God and man. It's like two triangles attached together but not overlaping. So basically everything is seperated by natures. If Jesus died it was him as a man, or if he always existed it was him as God. Weird, but I don't see anything logically contradictory especially since you probably don't even have a clear definition of what a spirit is. That doesn't mean it makes sense to me either.
darkforce333 3 years ago
But if it doesn't make sense, then why make it into a book?
A book is supposed to explain, not confuse.
The more i know about the bible, the less i think there is a god.
Now don't get me wrong, there can be another supernatural force out there, but its not been proven, and it just sounds ludicrous.
But please, if you are trying to answer my questions, don't say that you don't know either.
that will just bring up more questions.
makunouchi95 3 years ago
I was responding to your assertion that Jesus is God and man is a contradiction. I don't have to know how it might be possible for God to be man. All I was saying is I see no contradiction.
"it just sounds ludicrous."
So does string theory. Nobody has an answer for the origin of the universe that is understandible. I just use logic and what we do know about science to come up with a possibility. I'd rather believe in a first cause then the ludicrous infinte regress of causes.
darkforce333 3 years ago
Lets say the bible is right.
wouldn't it be really stupid that a loving god would judge you on whether you believe instead of how your life was?
i don't see the point for christians to do good just "to get on his good side" if you only need to accept jesus christ.
i believe a much better and smarter judgement would be if they judged you on what you did in your life.
for all we know, hitler may be in heaven while nice atheists are burning in hell(if it exists of course).
makunouchi95 3 years ago 2
my grandpa said i was gointo hell and hes told me that till the day i moved. If god loved all his children... why would he torture them? Even if your an amazing person, save lives, give to charity, you dont beleive in him, you will suffer. if he is real he has a big fuckin ego.
kathrynwilliamsxxxx 3 years ago 11
wait... what are the first 3 amendments?
1) love me
2) love only me
3) don't make any statues of anyone else
theguruofreason 3 years ago 2
my bad, not amendments.... commandments...
but hey if McCain is elected... who knows?
theguruofreason 3 years ago
Having the christian religion forced upon me my hole life, i want nothing to do with it. I saw all the flaws in the religion. it was sick and disgusting. You see a completely happy couple of gays and you say they should burn in hell for happiness?? God is so mean from what i hear. my granpa once said, You beleive in god? i was young, i said Ive never met the guy, no.
kathrynwilliamsxxxx 3 years ago 2
It was really easy. We never went to church. My mom grew up hearing the hypocritical dad of hers babble on about jesus all day long, i heard it too, day one (birth), to when we finally moved out, Mom moved out finally at 37 and me at 17. He talked about how he HATED gays, then said he LOVES all people. He said he believed in slavery, yet LOVED all people. Said they were equal. I questioned his religion once and he flipped. We moved out at that point. I told my mom. I never believed it...
kathrynwilliamsxxxx 3 years ago 3
I really wanna know who this person is......
So that maybe somone can do something for said kid...
Herufaia 3 years ago
Hey do you have a blog? It sounds like you write a bit of a script down before you record. Just asking. Good vid!
ToroQ3000 3 years ago
nah...I just do a quick outline of what I want to say and then ramble on.
KingHeathen 3 years ago
amazing advice and nice name :)
rinconion 3 years ago 3
"Biorderline agnostic"
Is there annother type of agnostic?
macman13 3 years ago
"Maybe borderlining agnostic" Meaning he's Christian, but is starting to become more and more agnostic.
Totarri 3 years ago
lol, I know, just thought it was a funny phrase.
macman13 3 years ago
My family isn't understand :/ They are driving me insane. I feel like I am the only rational and understanding one in the house. It is quite sick and disturbing how they continue to force their theology down my throat and not respecting my wishes. Thank you for the video anyway KingHeathen!
xxxDeadheartxxx 4 years ago 11
I hope your situation improves soon.
KingHeathen 4 years ago
Well, I'm just curious, why would you be afraid to tell people what you believe?
FrenchVanilla32 4 years ago
I can assure you that if I ever told my grandparents something along the lines of "I don't know if everything in the Bible is true" they would start rebuking me and expect demons to literally come out of me. When that doesn't happen they will just stop speaking to me because of "be ye a separate people". I wasn't allowed to have my best friend since kindergarten come over to the house because she had a girlfriend for about a month once.
aprilrocks1987 4 years ago
Hmm...Well I can relate to you, but If I told my parents that I was an atheists they would not hate me, but love me even more and feel sorrow for me.
FrenchVanilla32 4 years ago
not everyone is as lucky as you are to have that lack of hate...but at the same time, loving someone because you "feel sorrow for them" is known as a "pity"...and I don't NEED my family's "pity"
KingHeathen 4 years ago
Sometimes its good to feel pity, but even so, God be with you. :)
FrenchVanilla32 4 years ago
I never want "pity"...I find that demeaning. And may the Flying Spaghetti Monster's noodley appendages be upon you.
KingHeathen 4 years ago
ramen!
123smilie 3 years ago 3
atheists are one of if not the most persecuted groups in america- look it up, its really interesting
rinconion 3 years ago 10
Does that include agnostics or deists?
darkforce333 3 years ago
I don't see why it wouldn't work the same for them.
KingHeathen 3 years ago
I called my mother the other day.
"Mom, I just realized I'm a Satanist."
"Oh, ok."
pienipaha 4 years ago 3
How do I tell my parents? They are both atheists :)
notsobad 4 years ago
I told my parents outright and they were fine with it. I felt so much better letting them know, although they told me not to tell my sister.
Facecageworshipper 4 years ago
How you come out as an atheist, is to first come out as another religion that your parents do not like, then fold and say you don't believe in religion at all. They will be (hopefully) more relieved that you are not in the other religion. That is what I did, except the whole conversion thing wasn't a deception, but it did serve to make my conversion to agnostism more readily accepted, though converting from one religion to another is hard enough.
mavadotar 4 years ago
We have talks about religion every now and then and he keeps trying to "bring me back" but every time I ask him a question that he can't answer and he walks away. I think now he's starting to realize I've done more research about this subject than he thought. Like you Heathen I haven't told my aunts, uncles and cousins yet but I'm not ashamed of what I am and nor should any of us be!! I am a proud Agnostic Atheist and I'm tired of being seen as a freak because I don't believe in a fairy tale!
TheReal316 4 years ago
damn right. Well, I'm glad your Dad seems to have come to terms with it.
KingHeathen 4 years ago
He hasn't completely accepted it, he kind of just lets me have it. He keeps telling me that he's not worried about it cause one day I'll "find" God again but the problem with that is I always had a problem in believing in God or at least the stories in the bible. He told me the story of Adam and Eve when I was six and even at six I knew there was something wrong with the story. I didn't know exactly what it was at the time but something just wasn't right.
TheReal316 4 years ago
I pretty much kept what I thought to myself until I was 19. That's when I started telling people. It's not right what happens to some people when they "come out the closet". It's like a story I saw on 20/20 about a girl name Nicole Smalkowski. It broke my heart to hear what the people in her town and school did and said about her. If you don't know cut and paste this in the You Tube search engine; "The Price of Atheism", you'll understand what I'm talking about.
TheReal316 4 years ago
Yeah, that story is aweful...I covered in an early video of mine. Another search that will find that story is "Just another Salem"
KingHeathen 4 years ago
I was terrified the day I finally told my Dad cause I had no clue how he was going to take it. I thought he was going to snap and disown me or kick me out the house or something. I never would have conceived the reaction I got; he broke down crying. I was standing there thinking; "What the hell? He's crying because I told him I have a problem with the idea of a monotheistic God?" In the end he hugged me and told me he loved me and that was that.
TheReal316 4 years ago
I guess that is a good reaction. He loves you, and doesn't want you to go to Hell. If only he knew that Hell wasn't real either, he could feel better. Theists beleive that just believing something makes it true. So shouldn't not believing something make it false?
BernierCR42 4 years ago
I really don't think that's the reason. See my dad paid lip service to Christianity for years. He always said he believed but he very rarely read the bible until recently and never went to church until recently. I think the reason why my dad's leaning on his faith a lot more now is because he's in his mid 60s. So I think he's realizing that he doesn't have that much time left and it's scaring him.
TheReal316 4 years ago
He has another 10, 15 if he's lucky, so I think now that he's at this point in his life he wants to believe that there is something more than just this life. I can understand that and appreciate that but at the same time, since I gave up my faith it made me appreciate this life a lot more. Since I realized that this is the only life you get it makes me want to live this life as much as I can and not waste it on a 2000 year old fairy tale!
TheReal316 4 years ago
To me, the idea of no afterlife is more comforting than the idea of an afterlife. I wish my dad did realize that there is no heaven and hell and no afterlife too, because he would realize that death is the end and with the end means he never has to worry about anything again.
TheReal316 4 years ago
He never has to worry about the bills, the car payments, the mortgage, the mistakes he's made over his life time, it all goes away in death. I guess that might sound perverse or insane to some people, but that's how I view it.
TheReal316 4 years ago
When I finally told my parents what I was it was like a great weight was off my shoulders. I wasn't worried about telling my mom cause she's cool and not religious at all. I could have told her that I think the universe was farted out some giant's ass and were all the bacteria that came out and she still would have been cool about it, that's just how my mom is. My Dad was a completely different story. My dad and my extended family on his side are largely devout Roman Catholics.
TheReal316 4 years ago
ted haggard:D
xxxjppjxxx 4 years ago
If you tell your parents that you're an atheist, chances are that they'll be alright with it as long as you demonstrate that you've thought about it and done your research. My parents tend to make comments to me from time to time that mock my beliefs (or lack thereof), but they're pretty cool with it most of the time. I've never known anyone who was disowned for not believing in god.
DeathOfApathy 4 years ago
I have...it happens. Don't delude yourself into thinking that it doesn't. Now...in fairness, it happens less now than 10 years ago...and should be less even more in another 10 years...but it does happen quite a bit.
KingHeathen 4 years ago
I know that it happens, I just meant that I've never personally known anyone who it happened to.
DeathOfApathy 4 years ago
You wear a ring on the wedding ring finger. Does this mean you are married and if so; where did you get married? Marriage is a by-product of Christianity, correct? Yet...you honor it. In your rantings against You claim to havestupid people of faith I sense pagan hedonistic pleasures are to be lived, cherished and defended. What is wedlock? You are removed from those shackles - fornicate with as many woman as you can and who cares if any become pregnant. Marriage? Wedlock?
alwaysopen 4 years ago
We got married in Las Vegas in a civil ceremony. The only reason we got married was for legal and economic reasons (cheaper insurance, tax deductions, health care issues, etc) Marriage existed LONG before Christianity and exists OUTSIDE Christianity. Now...go educate yourself and get a real logical argument before you try me again.
KingHeathen 4 years ago
I am a average person. Lives a average life, goes to Church on sunday, get mad theres school on monday, I screw around on Saturday. You see I go to Church on Sunday because it gets me away from the chaos of the world for a day. So if I'm happy doing that then just accept it. If your happy being a heathen then thats cool. But I just get a good feeling going to Church every Sunday.
Airsofter234 4 years ago
Airsofter, I don't recall telling you not to go to church. You can go worship fairies in the garden for all I care...just don't try to push your beliefs on me or my children unless I/we/they ask you to. Perhaps YOU don't...others don't share your view.
KingHeathen 4 years ago
I'm not trying to. And I respect your views. I have a friend whos atheist. So I'm not being prejudice if thats what your saying.
Airsofter234 4 years ago
My mom is a devout Catholic, my dad is a non-practicing Protestant. I simply told them "This Bible stuff is nonsense, I'm not going to church anymore because it's nothing but a scam." And they said "Okay". And that was the end of it. I guess I'm luckier than most.
oscillator 4 years ago
Excellent advice KH. You are truly a big fat diamond in this community. Wonderful videos.
KingKafir 4 years ago
Very good video.
connerjd 4 years ago
How old are you? I don't remember hearing it before.
HeilFire 4 years ago
34 now.
KingHeathen 4 years ago
You are old enough to live your own life. You should not lie to the people that you love. It can be good for the short term, but don't keep it a secret forever.
HeilFire 4 years ago
LOL, liked the quiet quick "ted haggard" part.
Faustuss1 4 years ago
it is hard when you share differing views from your family and friends. It is always wise to step with caution when dealing with those you care about. It is unfortunate when a closed mind causes these problems, regardless of the reason. Good solution. That is how I have handled similar instances in my own life.
squitmaa 4 years ago
"the atheists guide to fucking up thanks giving" . step 1: spontaneously blurt out"there is no god" while family say grace - atleast the context was apt. step 2 - refer to god as sky daddy just to set the tone. step 3 - perform an atheist challenge just to prove your not kidding. step 4 - refuse to pray for gradma having caused her cardiac arrest as a form of protest. good vid king.
tarotfest 4 years ago 7
My Father's side of the Family were all Deist and Atheist and Agnostic, ( my Dad is 77) My Mothers side are all Christians . I never speak to my mother's side of the Family, not in decades, because of this., but life is good.Your better off with out Family , if they can not accept you for who you are.
ClemClemens1111 4 years ago
if their worried about college money.. I think *I* would wait until I am out of the house in a dorm room :P. So they couldn't legally do a damn thing about that..
BUT I am a family full of people who don't talk about religion that much (Only talk about it with my dad, and he is clearly atheist, but my mom and brother.. no idea) So it is easy for me to say that.
thefakeyeti 4 years ago
Very good. I have nothing to add. 5 stars.
EviTheFreak 4 years ago
Although my mom goes to church almost every sunday, she fucking hates George Bush and everything about the religious right. The God in which she believes loves good people like her son despite the fact that he is an atheist : ). It wasn't that big of deal. My mom is a saint plain and simple. My dad won't say it but I think the older he gets the more he doesn't believe in God.
xrayman7040 4 years ago
I became an atheist during my years at college. I didn't have to tell my parents that I'm an atheist, they just kind of figured it out. They are very understanding about it, and I really appreciate that about them. I am glad to have my parents, rather than the parents of that other kid.
Mattmon2 4 years ago
Good advice! I'm pretty lucky that I never had to worry about telling my parents. My mom slowly caught on because I talked to her about religion all the time, so by the time I realized I was an atheist, both of us knew by then. And then a few months of discussions later, my mom became one too. XD
Oddly enough, it's easier for me to hide that I'm a lesbian than it is to hide that I'm an atheist. I guess I'm one of the few exceptions.
hercrabbiness 4 years ago
Barely knowing my father, I had to tell him I'm an atheist *and* that I quit AA a few years ago (still don't drink, though). We wound up having a decent talk about it during my visit. (More later)))))))
abbnormalfunctions 4 years ago
My second comment is in the wrong place.Stupid YouTube.
LONGBOW0808 4 years ago
it's a bit hard to hide if your gay if you'v been caught with your significant other. cos then youv been busted and you can't hide anymore. can you Ted Haggard. LMAOROFL
musicalaviator 4 years ago
Good advice, but I think it's only valid when you're still living at home. Once you're beyond that point, I can't imagine WANTING to hide anymore.
RobertlewisIR 4 years ago
Sounds like a good approach for someone in that position.I never had that problem since I've been atheist since birth and I don't care a bit what anyone thinks about that.If religious people can't deal with it then to bad for them.
LONGBOW0808 4 years ago
My mother didn't have a choice but to accept (father is an atheist already, but feigns neutrality between me and mom on subject). I waited until I moved out and had no dependency on them, and when mom started her usualy homilizing, I fought back with the full arsenal. No punishment (unlike when I lived with them and tested waters). That's my advice
DblOSmith 4 years ago
Actually, you know what... I think I'll make this my first ever video response. :D
DblOSmith 4 years ago
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Wow KH, this is the third version I've heard of your religious upbringings. In the first version you were a devout Christian from a strict religious family who spent "twenty years of my life in the church". In the second version you were always being told that you should go to church by family and friends, but you were too much of a rebel. Now, in your latest version you're just from a sort of lukewarm, wishy-washy Christian family. Getting hard to keep it all straight?
Capn0bvious 4 years ago
CapnOblivious...let me clarify since you are too retarded to understand. My FAMILY meaning Grandparents and Uncles and everyone...were very religious. My PARENTS, mom and dad, weren't. I have no idea what this "second version" you talk about is...but the first and third is simply a mix of the two sides of PARENTS vs FAMILY. Fuck off and go away, you are a retarded asshole with nothing better than to waste your time with bothering me. Go back to your 15 subscriber channel and fuck yourself.
KingHeathen 4 years ago
how did that song go back in the '90s? oh, i think it went...
WHOOP THERE IT IS!
buntpan 4 years ago 3
CapnOblivious, indeed. You can shorthand his user name as "troll."
LibertyIsNotGiven 4 years ago
lol, CapnOblivious. You haven't been paying much attention have you. I can see how you came up with one and three, but where the hell did you come up with number two.
cjclifford 4 years ago
Eeep! That was such harsh pwnage that it requires a new form of ownage.... possibly kwnage or hwnage... or khwnage... oh w/e, he got razed :P
Whoop there it is indeed.
Crawler101010101 4 years ago
khwnage...I like it...reminds me of the Spanish word for "balls" blended with ownage. It could catch on. LOL!
KingHeathen 4 years ago
THEN LET THE KHWNAGE COMMENCE >:D
Crawler101010101 4 years ago