Starcraft II Battle Report 2 (Part 2)

[imdvids]

wow, those zergs are freaking slow

[Skusioh]

funny to see this old reports again. and lol at thge DA (?) charge, blowing up 7 roaches at once X)

[ncdxero88]

0:25 I can imagine Matt Cooper saying "SHIT!" for a whole minute.

[Zergmonster2010]

i love these battle reports because its so old like brood war

[Smarty4789]

LOL banshees used to have male pilots!

[kelsuperlikot]

@RageOverdose I agree with you, gameplay is more of a factor to me than realism cause the way I see it is this, no matter how beautiful the graphic or realistic the game is but the gameplay sucks bad=still sucks on the other hand a game with a very balanced and awesome gameplay but may not have the best graphics or realism is still a game of choice to me

[noobtube1210]

Its kind of cool there should be a channel on tv with this kind of stuff., even tho im not too excited about this game. It can replace all the crap that is currently on TV

[dustomatic1974]

@noobtube1210 There is a channel like that. In Korea. They're kinda fanatic about SC.

[RunescapePkKing12]

how much does it cost to play per month?

[JonathanSharman]

Is this where "terrible, terrible damage" came from?

[uberm0nster1]

OH MY GOD DO YOU EVER JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP

[Portokal400]

lol these guys need to calm down xD

[MrOctopus285]

no artillery :( yeah im likin SupCom2 more

[Jmontastic]

It seems the Artificial Intelligence of all types of units are at least 3x higher than starcraft 1 units which decreases the amt of micro managing. hmmmmmm agree?

[atsusamuno]

@Jmontastic

No matter how intelligent units get, they still need a human player to control them. And Blizzard aint dumb to add an auto micro AI, that'd make the game boring. It would be all about macro skills then.

[Jmontastic]

@atsusamuno from the numerous amt of SCII that ive watched, the strategy is different. eg. mutalisks cannot be controlled as cheaply like Jaedong has been in SCI. Eg2- the AI of zealots and marines were much less in SC1- their walking patterns were scattered. In conclusion, when i mean AI, i mean the walking/flying patterns of the units, but like you said Blizzard will probably fix it. From watching SC2 vids im not too happy

[Bushwacked487]

SC2 is way too cartoony

[shanegairson]

@Bushwacked487 ur an idiot if they would have changed it too much it wouldent have that starcraft feel to it. stupid fuck

[Bushwacked487]

@shanegairson What are you, 8? Theres no need for insulting. For the time sc1 was the most raw realistic looking and feeling game around. Thats what I liked about it then, and theyve changed that.

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[atsusamuno]

@war2combat

GO SUCK A BIG DICK TO SHUT DA FUK Waste noob

[iKhicken]

this is starcraft, not warcraft

[JFMatador]

wtf is that on 5:19? that blue blob?

[WoWace101]

its a infestor

[atsusamuno]

@WoWace101

No, its my daddy

[omelettecrap]

bailings look lame lol. Its like he has to build 1 bailing to destroy 1 marine. must be freaking cheap

[Aeregeth]

its because banelings are meant to destroy huge units and buildings =D

[velisdiemr2]

Miss playin RTS. Too old to compete. Campaign FTW!

[octoberorange4]

ships casting "spells"... really now?

[nothereman]

They sound like Sports Commentators.

[lacey72]

@nothereman ahahhahahahahahhaha

[Xyonon]

@nothereman Starcraft is Spots, isn't it? :D

[RageOverdose]

I'm liking SC2 since they are intentionally building the game around the current style of play in the competitive scene: early game micro shifting into later game macro (and potentially end game micro as well). These things weren't around until the concepts were mapped out as the pro games went on. It's interesting to see if this game ends up evolving more.

Also, whoever said anything about map realism, screw that. It's about map balance and metagame, not stupid realism.

[purplefrog21]

agreed and all the maps they are showing are identical so That is what makes an RTS and any other Multiplayer game balanced

[Bushwacked487]

@RageOverdose Realistic strategic/ tactical combat will always be richer than cartoony asian video game playstyles.

[dustomatic1974]

@RageOverdose I don't think you know what "micro" means. "micro" is short for "micromanage", which is just a fancy word for "issueing commands" to your force.

[RageOverdose]

@dustomatic1974 Actually, micro in the sense of SC is best defined as a more powerful control of your units that increases their effectiveness, where it is required because of the fact the AI has many flaws. Just moving a unit is not micro, and neither is just attacking. Kiting, army splitting, directing melee units around walls because of targeting AI, and some of the many abilities culminate micro.

However, I realize now micro is important all the time.

[RageOverdose]

@dustomatic1974 Actually it's a fancy word for increasing the efficiency of your units by controlling them individually. Your definition is off, because issuing commands is not micro, although it can be. Dogs are animals, but not all animals are dogs.

I was talking about early game micro, like Dragoon micro against Marines or the first tank in Brood War, and then the mid to late game where macro usually takes precedence and you have large armies, then end game where resources get scarce.

[syyhkyrotta]

Terrible terrible damage!

[13JunkYarDog13]

o w8, infested, nvm

[13JunkYarDog13]

at 6:48, is that a night hawk being killed by a banling? banling damages air?

[Zendarus]

the infected terran shot 1 down

[Rayofpain]

zerglings are waaaaaay to slow

[daytraders1]

at 5:10 it says tyu has left the game!, who is tyu? theres two players and two guys who talk, whos the fifth one then?

[vanuber]

blizzard lets other spectators on the game

[shanegairson]

@daytraders1 he is a spectator

[badgerblitz]

is there any way to unburrow zerg in SC2? with the addition of the roach, you can have an army of 6-8 roaches, attack, and when you are about to die, burrow, heal, and attack again. basically an invincible army, so a little OP

[0xXpraetorXx0]

no its only on the creep im prettysure

[badgerblitz]

No, i was watching the videos and played as zerg and they can burrow anywhere. maybe detectors unburrow them? Oh and whoever -1ed my question needs to stop being a fag, I was asking a serious question and you are a pussy for not responding, instead just click. Props to praetor tho because he/she atleast tried to answer.

[haydenrules0002]

just get a detector to come in and u can see them burrowed

[Phil51094]

u can get certain units that reveal them when they r barrowed so other units can attack them

[Nannally18]

Uh.. just build a detector and kill them.

[ExcessivePolyphony]

This game was scripted. They planed this out. It's obvious.

[ExcessivePolyphony]

However, now I'm gonna play Star Craft.

[codygautreau]

3:25 its a Q of zlings :)

[badgerblitz]

lol thats sick!

[codygautreau]

RELEASE DATE?!

[jerzmacow]

oct 31

[amm2911]

the creep looks more like undead scourge than anything else.

[purplefuzzythings]

This game was retarded...

the zerg had the upper hand the whole time, but didn't attack the terran. The terran was way better but was always behind.

[NintendoGamer1124]

serg could have just charged easily

[manuelito1233]

They say it was scripted.

[memphetic]

Constantly asking "Will we see this happen?!" then answering.

[amm2911]

yeah haha. and always being a bit late. that guy is annoying.

[yeyitzkevin]

matt cooper isnt the terran player rofl

[LanceSmith2888]

I cant wait for Battle Report 3 Toss vs Zerg i hope that matt cooper (the terrain player) plays the Toss, he seems to be the more skilled player.

[ShadowFOX4u]

actually, you should sign up for the starcraft beta.

[00393293171971]

zerg > terran :P

[JamesJimRaynor]

Terrans won noob.

[00393293171971]

that ":P" denotes a joke dude....

as much as i can see u cannot see that cuz ur retardness doesnt allow u that

AKA: fuck off jerk....ur useless

[JamesJimRaynor]

Hahahaha.

[DoneRobert]

its kinda weird cuz wes they get closer the marines still use range weapons in stead of using meele

[RockYuAway]

woah theres alot of new stuff this game awesome and it's definitely better then warcraft.

[xBattle4everx]

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[FuDgEStICKbAR]

FUCK THAT

clans are for noobs who wanna look special

[xBattle4everx]

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[GmanGregilla]

Really? Is that so...Sounds kinda odd...

[andersmusician]

it's over 800 this time

[GmanGregilla]

Well, from the sounds of it, their HP regeneration sounds kinda ridiculous...at least to me...But, I don't know the specifics of it, and one could only imagine that it is subject to change.

[twelvehaha]

they changed some of the game mechanics for these battle reports so you can see more of what can be done instead of sitting and waiting for stuff

[GmanGregilla]

It also looks like the Roaches' attack range isn't quite as distant as is for the Hydras.

[hunturien]

can any1 tell me if there is any heroes in this game and how much is the food limit

[lavon9305]

LMAO @ Terrible terrible.......

[D00ml0rdKazzak]

Terrible TERRIBLE damage!

[Commandos12]

have i ever been wrong? :3

[Commandos12]

imt alking about the nitehawk

it looks like a abiter, it moves like a arbiter, its a caster, its a arbiter damn it!

[GmanGregilla]

Cool to hear.

And, ya, now that is something to wonder.

[brainwasher9876]

dustin bowder really needs a new catch phrase. "terrible terrible damage" is starting to get a little wearing.

[MrIcicle]

does anyone know what comes out of the pods at 9:40? This little yellow unit carring crystals? Looks like there will be some alternative mining unit.. hm...

[Runepriest3]

its a bit like a temporary SCV prob...

[ashzwz]

they are MULEs they cost 50g per call down and they provide extra resources(collect at a faster rate then scvs) for like 1 min or something

[Commandos12]

this terran arbiter have teh same fire power as a siege tank o.O flying siege tank? :D

[nokiafan4life]

oh please, I'm on USEast, i'm Nasty_Blitzer so hit me up. i'm almost 400 wins and about 40 loses, so i lose once every 10 games, i'm a B+ player :) and i've played terran ever since i began back in 1999. I dont even know the hot keys for zerg or toss LOL so thats why i'll go terran, GO HUMANS!

[fragilez]

wad does roaches do?o.0

[mounlolol]

they attack ground and ranged units, and have very fast regeneration rates (can get back to full hp in a few seconds) but have low hp

they appear at the same place on the tech tree that hydras used to

[GmanGregilla]

Don't they also have a relatively weaker attack also?

[supershaft7777]

The maps are terribly small and seem to be designed in 'paths' rather than realistic battlefields.

The gameplay is based on the same old *cheesy*, exploitative tactics as WC3. To put it another way, Blizzard determines EVERY possible strategy a player can come up with and implements it in a very hardwired, concrete manner. The way players get 'good' is by peeling away layers of noob and initial explore-the-game confusion to uncover the cookie-cutter playing style that all the 'pros' know.

[mounlolol]

Your comment may be literate, but you clearly have no idea what you are talking about

gtfo mah youtube

[lavon9305]

what the fuck are you talking about.......when the game comes out make your own damn maps

[twelvehaha]

realistic battlefields? its called choke points, you want a wide open map where you have to build 6 bunkers off the start inorder to survive? thats just retarded.

when the game launches, make your own maps and host games, see how many people say "THE FUCK IS THIS GARBAGE?" and promptly leave the game while it still says "draw"

cookie cutter? ...dont let the other team expand, while you expand. you dont like it, go play WoW. this is nothing like WC3. wc3 was garbage aswell.

[JakeDaines]

lol they went that extra mile with the blood when the banshees took out that hatchery. I was like "ooooh... volcano!"

[lavon9305]

yea that shit was tight..

[Argie87]

"Tyu has left the game" LOL! XD

[10dude9]

No siege tanks ppl, no sige no fun

[maddogfromhell]

TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE DAMAGE!

[KevUOW]

I dont see why the terrain didnt damage zergs economy with those hunter seeker missles

[MoonlightWolf714]

Out of energy probably, or he woulda used them on the Zerg attack force

[nic0dem8D]

this is quite a gg

[Upsilon724]

"What a great move!"

[DuoSpear]

I just love those Banshees.

[GmanGregilla]

Terrible, terrible damage.

[TML091]

just as the scout sneaks out, "Matt Cooper being extra careful to make sure David Kim can't look around the map."

4:00

[cptnemo20kl]

What were those drop pods with "mules"? Are they a special Command Center ability? Does that mean that the Ghost can/can't call drop pods? Too many questions.

[lavon9305]

i know right when they dropped down, the commentators fucking acted like it didnt even happen ....like it wasn't supposed to happen.........

[nintendoboy00]

look, the zerg form a letter Q at 3:25

[firedemon34526]

ROFLMAO

oh yes that is so important in strategy. what letter your units make.

[crowmaster02]

i have to admit that starcraft 2 is looking better and better with each video,well they promised us that after the next battle report (this one) they will give us more info on the beta release date,lets hope they will keep their word

[GreazedKid07]

Battle Report was quite good, although far from perfect.

A few random thoughts:

- Animations are really impressive. Banshee portrait, Hatchery and Reaper death animations, the way Nighthawks roll around their axis sometimes; it all looks quite good.

- Dustin Browder is a cool guy, but he needs to stop saying "what a great play" and "important new feature" every 5 seconds.

- Robert Simpson on the other hand is quite level-headed and knowledgable. I want to hear more of him. :)

[JasonZeratulTsai]

The zerg player just failed at expanding...

Build more zerg units!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lavon9305]

my thoughts exactly

[Shurimpu]

Holy shit, Hunter Seeker Missiles are awesome and bullshit at the same time. I am going to abuse them to hell.

[MoonlightWolf714]

That's assuming they remain in their current form and aren't nerfed before the game is released. Based on what I've seen in this video and what the announcers said about the ability being new to everything and still being tested, I'd predict a nerf.

[GmanGregilla]

I predict that you're right.

[ikopiko909]

Hellions should be out... then starcraft 2 is gold.

[beyoncelover202]

the only bad part about making a new starcraft game after 10 years is there is too much expectation.

No one will have the game they want.

"oh, that unit should not be there"

"oh, this is not like the old one"

I dont know, i really want this new one but i just cannot stand people bitching about how bad it is going to be.

[JBXyooj]

Fawk em right?

[thax712]

ya, the terrans have marines and the protoss stalkers, the zerg need a early game anti-air!!!!!

[kentran9]

they do have early game anti-air.. that's the queen.

[shaynehunter]

expand zerg!

[knightmarejin]

Wow jutykt, you see a video of a game in ALPHA state and call it crap. Thats like looking at a house while only the frames are half done and calling it crap. My point, ITS ALPHA. It is expected to still be buggy at this stage. Terrans arent "way too overpowered" they always have alot of firepower since SC1. The flaws I found in SC2 from this BR is that 1) Zerg need better anti-air 2) Zerg could have won if Matt teched up faster 3)Banelings walking? WTF? Give them back their roll, much cooler.

[jutykt]

That game is crap, terran are invincible and way too overpowered against zerg and protoss

[kentran9]

how u know? it's not even out yet

[AlaskanPipeWorm]

uh... because the video clearly demonstrates it?

[kentran9]

tell me about it... while at the start Zerg just almost overwhelmed the Terran... but at the mid game Zerg player just sucked at macro... that's why Zerg got pwned

[RunawayDanish]

Generally, a good Zerg player should distract the Terrans into defense, while they expand and spam up a massive swarm, overwhelming the Terrans.

This Zerg player seemed to be so busy with Micro, he forgot about the big picture.

[blindoutlaw]

NO this video shows the zerg player failing to finish off the terrans when he had the chance, after that he got owned

[badgerblitz]

have you even seen the vid where the protoss rape the terran?

[LucidDreamingTricks]

Can't wait till this comes out