Hahahaha, I don't think that someone being "drunken, foul-mouthed, and unchaste" counts as being mad nowadays. It just sounds like a twenty-something on the weekends! :D
I absolutely *love* Timothy Dalton as Rochester, but I cannot stand Zelah Clarke as Jane. Zelah goes beyond portraying Jane as restrained and makes her look as though there is absolutely nothing going on inside her head. She recites lines and then seems to go blank until her next set of lines. Part of what makes Jane such a great character is that underneath all of her societal restraint she is fiery, smart, funny, passionate, and strong. Zelah doesn't portray that at all- her Jane is a mouse.
Did you see his tears? I did and I'm going out to fetch myself one of those men. I'll be back when my search is completed - expect me back in 50 years or so.
excellent theatre; not just the song of the speaking which is so expressive but the movements which are like a dance. it feels good to watch such artful theatre. If Charlotte Bronte were alive, she probably would have loved it and say; yes, this theatre expresses the inner fineness and essence of my book.
I don't quit understand why he can't get a divorce, make her family take care of her and happily marry Jane. He could even do occasional visits. Can someone explain why he won't get a divorce?
@beatifultruth1 that only after the 1857 Matrimonial Causes Act (10 years after Jane Eyre was written), were adultery, cruelty, or desertion used as grounds for divorce in England. Before that time, divorces were extremely rare and expensive and were only granted through a private act of Parliament. Since Bertha was guilty of none of those things, plus being insane, Rochester could not obtain a divorce.
@beatifultruth1 There is a law (which is still in use today) that a person cannot divorce a mentally unstable person because the mentally unstable person cannot represent themselves in court like a normal person would. So they have made it against the law. :/ That's why Mr. Rochester is so desperate to keep Jane. I hate the idiots that did that Mr. Rochester. THEY WERE HIS FAMILY!!!
In my opinion, I prefer the way the 2011 version (Wasikowska-Fassbender) does this scene, even though it is a bit different than the way Bronte wrote it (and thus presented here). Here and in the book, Rochester comes across to me as domineering and not always sincere with his apologies.
In the 2011 version, Fassbender's Rochester is much more remorseful and there is much more anguish on both his and Jane's parts over their "breakup", which makes their reunion at the end that much more sweet.
@atyleung06 I like your points of view - it’s always nice getting to know different interpretations of stories^^ But the character development is interesting. He was domineering at this state of affairs, perhaps insincere even. Maybe not intentionally. I think he always respected Jane but at the same time he was used to get what he wanted. Losing Jane & the “accident” made him see the things in a different light. Something really shocking was needed to make him a bit more humble…
@atyleung06 I liked that version too, though I was a bit disappointed with the ending...it was just so abrupt you know. I was hoping for some more romanctic gestures....
He also says that he will get pleasure out of life, cost what it may, maybe in regards of marriying someone (even if he is already maried). Also in the book Mr Rochester does become agitated with Jane and esplains that if she doesnt listen to him then he will act violent; now many interpretations have said that this could be Rochester threatning to rape Jane, in my opnion I agree with that, there are hidden signs thoughout the book and the films that he is passionate, desperate and highly sexual
@Lcplsexiiiking Mr. Rochester threatening to rape Jane? Really? I always thought he was a gentleman, albiet a very sexy one. Passionate, yes, but he loves her and wants her love and to do right by her as much as he is able, even though (to get her) he is willing to lure her into a bigamous marriage. IMHO, if he had only sex on his mind, he would've taken her after the fire when he had so much trouble letting go of her and controling himself. LOL She looked petrified and he looked ravenous ;P
@pacemoy Yes, he was threatening to rape her. It's so unlike Mr Rochester it implies his desparation. He genuinely frightens me in this scene, and I'm only watching it D:
right okay the reason why Mr Rochester gets so pasionate (and in some ways aggressive), is that he is desperate man trying to hold onto the one thing that he truly loves. Having to listen and watch Jane (his soulmate) leave is something that he cannot bare. Also, dont forget, is a very sexual man, in regards to his past relationships, we always get little snippets of his relationship with Celine; Mr Rochester is also a very dark and brooding man, which he explains near the beggining of the book
This is the scene by which I judge every film adaptation of the novel. It shows the true characters of both Jane and Rochester and their respective complexities: their love, their struggle, his desperation, her strength. 2006 completely cheapened such a heartrending sequence with an unnecessarily tawdry display. And while 1973 version was much closer, this one still reigns supreme (with an extremely close second being the Fassbender-Wasikowska interpretation).
It is really only here that I fully appreciate how TALL Timothy Dalton is...To see him perch on the dainty furniture and then fold himself up onto the stool as he explains his marriage! WONDERFUL! As a tall woman I have to say, WONDERFUL! :):):)
all I can think about at 1:36 is the poor costume designer. Having to cut out these tiny little outfits for Zelah Clarke and then crawling out of the yards of fabric that is Dalton's costume. What a contrast!
@Woodlander65 I have to disagree with you about Wilson. She was just a beginning actoress and she did very well for her first movie. Give her some credit.
Okay, this is probably the best part in this version. I realize that some people might think that a man begging is weak. I beg to differ :D This is a person opening up his heart and baring his soul in want of real love! A person with whom he can have a real connection to and have that love reciprocated. Okay I know, its just a book but damn! Timothy, you know you are THE MAN!
Those who complain that Dalton is "scary" or "too aggressive" in this scene - he is, and that's why he's so great as Rochester! It works because his violence is very seductive, YET that little edge of sleaze in his attempts to seduce her are what make us understand that she has to leave him. Just like the book.
Ps - I'm a girl, and I'm asking all my ladies: should all men dress like TD in this scene all the time or what? At 3:05, WHAT? Those pants are off the hook. And that waistcoat. Yowza
@Felix892 Yowza indeed! The fashions for women during this period were just awful...I mean, get a load of Miss Blanche's HAIRDO while she is staying at the house...The fashions for women only got better around the 1880's or so...But the fashion for men during this period...HOT HOT HOT!!! Give me a man who is DRESSED, for God's Sake! Not these boys with the trousers dragging on the ground...
Jane Eyre 2011 is still my favorite version, but I have to say, Timothy Dalton is a very close second to Michael Fassbender in my book in terms of sexiness. I don't like Zelah Clarke as Jane--I just personally can't feel anything for her
I just bought this version from Amazon after seeing it was available on here. I showed it to my husband so he would know more about the story. He had a lot of questions after seeing the recent movie. With this series he now knows what is going on. There was too much left out in the recent movie.
If I were Jane...when Timothy started crying I couldn't have left! lol He is the hottest thing I've ever seen in my life. lol I would've gone into a polygamous marriage any day for him! haha.
@TwilightLuvvverxxx LOL -- I know you did; I wasn't being serious ;-) Obviously you couldn't be more open with us than to say that TD's the hottest thing you've ever seen in your life! And 98% of those commenting here feel the exact same way . . . so thanks for putting it into words for us! :P
@pacemoy WOW, considering that I use sarcasm on a daily basis, it's really quite sad that I didn't understand. lol You're good. Touche, my friend. Touche. :)
@TwilightLuvvverxxx LOL -- Well, one thing I'm certain of -- neither of us is being sarcastic when we say that Timothy Dalton is the hottest thing we've seen in our lives!! Especially in this version of Jane Eyre ;-)
I saw the new version and did not like it as much. TD's Rochester gets frantic but the Rochester in the new version gets downright mean, almost strangling Jane. The director said it would be a darker version but it should not go into abuse. A woman like Jane would have nothing of that sort of thing, she was too independent and knew bad people when she saw one.
Plus this is a series and more of the story is explained, the movie just had the highlights of the story and much was left out.
@janelle144 Thanks for the mini review. The new version isn't playing anywhere near me but now I don't feel so bad about waiting for the Netflix DVD. I think this version has spoiled all the others for me anyway :P
yes,I agree whith you ! Zelah Clarke is the best Jane Eyre !! And Thimothy Dalton is the best Rochester !!!!! Thiis is the best version of Jane Eyre !
I really can't stand this interpretation of the book. Rochester goes from zero to sixty to zero to violent, and it's just not how I saw him acting at all. He's actually scary, not at all romantic.
Now THIS scene, would be excellent to take on as either a drama, or an english class project! :D Although it would mostly depend on whoever played mr. rocherster
@Woodlander65 Well I thumbed up, because I found it a joke. It could hardly be possible for anyone to like someone like what she described, wether it be male or female. Yet, there are too many people of that kind lurking around...
Superb acting on Timothy Dalton's part. I have not seen many of his films, but this scene alone proves how versatile and how commendable an actor he is. To be able to play someone once so arrogant and haughty and serious, to this creature writing in self-inflicted torment and loss is indescribable.
Timothy Dalton is an excellent Rochester. I read that he considers this role his personal favourite. My only complaint is that Zelah Clarke looked too old for the part (Jane is suppossed to be 18, and Ms. Clarke looks at least 30), but she did a good job. A new film version of this classic story is coming to theaters next year, and oddlly, is rated PG-13.
this scene simply breaks by heart. To see a man who once was so hard, indifferent to others, become humbled, drawn to his weak knees by the one that he loves. To see a man who can rage so passionately at one moment, and then tenderly, and softly hold his desire in his arms as though she were a bird. and yet she will not stay
@Woodlander65 It's nice to know that guys like you still exist :-) I'm afraid you aren't what average experience would call typical these days :-( Ah, where did all the romance go? So much for women's lib. Women have the liberty to do what? Live alone and raise a family alone. Wonderful. We've come a long way, baby.
Omg this Jane pisses me off idk y. Mr Rochester is amazing, but jane's actress just doesn't play her well and she's too short compared to him. Idk I think 2006 version's Jane is the best.
WOW I haven't seen so much of Rochester's anguish shown before... Well acted Mr Dalton. what a brilliant portral of his utter dispare, I am really enjoying this version of Jane Eyre.. can't wait to see what St John Rivers is like... :0)x
@orlandobabe ... I didn't say that I liked Timothy Dalton the best... BUT he is rather AWESOME in this version of Jane Eyre... My absolute favourites are Toby Stephens & Ruth Wilson... I also like Ciaran Hind & Samantha Morton...
Actually I will watch ANY version of Jane Eyre because I always find something different in the essence of the characters... :0)x
@wenglishsal, I think that Ciaran Hinds was absolutely miscast as Rochester. He screamed and bawled his way through almost every scene (though Samantha Morton was excellent as Jane). But Timothy Dalton was PERFECT as Rochester. He's a Shakespearean actor, so i assume he went back to the novel to study his part, and as a result we have a wonderful performance.
@BibleJoker2Face ... I do see your point about Timothy Dalton.. YES an excellent Rochester, but I still have my fav's too... And Toby/Ruth are still tops for me, followed by Ciaran/Samantha ... BUT Tim was REALLY amazing too... BUT I do believe that I said before, I will watch ANY version, because I love the book so, and all actors bring out something very different if their interpretation of ROCHESTER...*swoons* :0)x
@wenglishsal, to each his own. A new film version of this classic story will be coming to theaters next year starring the girl from "Tim Burton's Alice In Wonderland" as Jane, Michael Fassbender as Rochester & Academy Award winner Dame Judi Dench as Mrs. Fairfax. I have my reservation about it, though, because it's rated PG-13. But I'll still see it when it comes out.
@BibleJoker2Face .. Ooh I will keep an eye out for that then... I do love Jane Eyre.. Should be very interesting *raises eyebrows* Best regards from Wet and Windy Wales :0)x
I couldn't agree more,TD's is the best film/TV interpretation of Rochester so far.His R. captures the energy of the novel's R., the damaged virile fluency , the eloquent self-disgust, the redeemable cynicism of the character. Somebody like CH (an otherwise excellent actor) was oddly flat -and the flatness was not disguised by his bluster; as forTB he was dreamy, a woolgatherer with nothing of the aggressive melancholy of the novel's R., which TD embodied so well.
This version is my favorite!!! Actors are winderful. And this scene is so passion, magnificent, may to say, hot. Other versions are different, they haven't this spirit
I had thought the 2006 version was terrific, but this one trumps it. Dalton's Rochester is magnificent. I never knew Mr. Dalton was such a terrific actor (and so bloody sexy). I think the Bond thing had coloured my thinking with regards to Dalton's talent a bit too much. Also, I do adore his Healthcliff as well. I think I am won over.
I am waiting for the temper. He still wants what he wants and he doesn't get her at all if he thinks she'll go with him. He knows she loves him and is using every tool he has to entrap her. He knows he's married, horrible as it is. He calls her integrity, "stubborness." Shameful. Her love is based on an honorable man and he isn't. "No man injured in the breach." No, just one little woman and the children she would bare him.
@Songsmirth You have good understanding, I see. Wisdom, indeed..It's rare to hear this moral talk being upheld strongly with faith these days. I'm so happy to read this.
@woodyaan in the 2006 version there was a lot more kissing and the scene was just more sexual. whereas this version stays true to the book and really emphasizes how great this decision is. it is kind of weak.....but i think its more truthful. just saying =]
@nelly11796 agree about that. but artistic expression is very strong in later version. these people can not act. I get bored. too realistic....I mean I am glad you guys like it.
Don't get this part "I could not rid myself of her by legal means; for by now the doctors had discovered she was mad." WHA? Was there a law then that you couldn't divorce a mad woman? I get that divorce was scandalous, but there certainly must have been provisions for a mad woman who tried to kill her husband...
As I've been writing here and there about it, divorce as the dissolution of the bond of marriage wasn't and still isn't admitted in the Church of England.
The only provision for a case like that was and still is the so-called separation 'quoad thorum et habitationem' (literally, from bed and home).
Actually it WAS a law, if your spouse was mad you couldn't divorce them back then. I dont know why it was there, but my guess would be it was meant to protect the nutty spouse, it was still unfair to the sane partner though.
we were talking about this in my english lesson. my teacher thinks that mr rochester thought that it was wrong to divorce a mad woman because otherwise she would be put into a mad asylum where she would be whipped and treated incredibly badly.
The Church of England never admitted divorce as the dissolution of the bond of marriage: remember what happened with Prince Charles and Princess Diana.
The first psychiatric asylum to be built in England was Hanwell in 1831: "Jane Eyre" is supposed to happen before that, around the 1820s.
The "Bridewell" of that charade was a palace which was built for Henry VIII, who lived there between 1515 and 1523. It was turned into a prison, hospital and workrooms in 1556. Most of it was destryoed in 1666, during the Great Fire of London.
I disagree; I don't think I'd have been strong enough either, however, she made the RIGHT decision. Had she stayed with him, she wouldn't have been able to live with HERSELF. That comes out clearly in the book. In the same way marrying John later would have "killed" her slowly as she said, remaining with Rochester now would have also killed who "Jane Eyre" was and what he fell in love with originally. She'd no longer have been "Jane".
@wtfusernameftl yeah they were brought up very different and also if (not that he would) he ever dumped her, she'd be pretty much screwed. She wouldn't be able to get a job ANYWHERE because her "reputation" would be ruined. Besides, it all works out in the end, right?
I have seen the interpretation of Jane Eyre in both the 1983 and 2006 version. This scene is one of the strongest in the book. I would have liked to see it interpreted in the 2006 version as well. You get to see Mr. Rochester's despair and anguish to keep Jane, while Jane sees the need to sacrifice herself for what is morally correct. It is a truly moving scene.
I agree, I missed it in the 2006 version (which does NOT suck but is amazing) but the writers CHOSE to transform it completely into the falshback scenes.
If we had gotten that scene (my fav of all books of all times btw) in the 2006 version, we wouldn't have gotten as clearly how he tries to subdue her both emotionally and physically. It's really interesting, because it's a different take on R's character: agressive/kind vs dark/funny. To me the 2nd is truer but not for that specific scene.
@symphonies17 Which is better this one or the 2006 one, for me I love this version of this, it is more passionate and moving. Very moving if you know what I mean.
That depends on what you want. If you want a purist version this is the one. If you want a sweet love story the 2006 one is better. And no - it is not because of the bedroom scene! The acting in 2006 is far better.
But Timothy Dalton is making an awesome Rochester. Not moving like Toby Stephenson but true archetype.
@MsSilentia Actually I thought this version played off really close to the book and plus Dalton had the voice, the looks and the height for Rochester and plus he made it passionate and funny and mysterious like the book and Clarke played the perfect plain but beautiful Jane Eyre. The 06 one, I didn't care much for at all.
Surely it contains many more scenes and makes more fair to the intricate story. I would not argue about that. But I really do not like Clarke's Jane.
To me the child actress who plays Jane is the great plus in this version, besides TD who really IS THE Mr Rochester. His acting makes me laugh even though it is seriously meant.
But if I think of the acting as a whole - I prefere the new version even if it makes a simpler story.
I know what disturbs me in this one. It would be awesome on stage, with grandios acting and stylized lines, but it does not fit in an intimate medium like movie or TV.
Of course it is possible to combine this kind of lines with delicat, camera close acting. The 1996 P&P proves it possible. But here it just does not work. I think this one best when there are no grande lines.
Still this Rochester is really amusing. But it is the arch type of Commedia dellArte. Not a real human portrait.
@evangeline135 I've thought about what you've said Evangeline and I think you're wrong. Maybe they like those kind of women for playing around with but NOT to be their wives. I don't know any man that wouldn't want a chaste woman for their lifelong companion.
Sorry--gotta say one more thing--in the book after he says you've not wept at all, he adds-maybe you've been crying internal tears of blood (or something like that). It is so sad! In the book he acknowledges that just because she is not crying on the outside doesn't mean that she is not suffering deeply. Her passion is INSIDE.
I think this version shows more clearly how hard it was for her to adjust to her superior being in love with her---men of this time were NOT "accustomed to marrying their governesses." This Jane (this actress) moves about quietly--as if she is well aware of her station--the job of servants was to blend into the background. To me it is poignant because she HAD to learn to be quiet, calm in order to survive--like Rochester says--she is a caged bird. Tim is...Da Bomb. Most underrated actor alive.
I think this Jane does an admirable job--of all the versions I've seen-she is the most physically like "Jane;"she is small, not a raving beauty, pale, almost sickly--BUT seen in another light (through the eyes of love)--she is "unearthly." As far as this actress's interpretation--Jane is passionate, but that doesn't mean always flailing about--her passion is meant to be contrasted with Bertha's--her passion is one of the spirit.
physically I like Charlotte Gainsbourg in the 1996 version the best, but unfortunately, the movie having to be short etc, there it was not a good transcription of the book at all, not even in its spirit. Both chemistry and Bronte's lines were missing, which is too bad because Hurt and Gainsbourg are both great actors
I love dalton but i really dislike her as jane. she is too emotionless. Jane should be passionate and spirited not an emotionless statue. the 2006 one isnt accurate to the book but it does have a brilliant jane. And although i love him as Rochester and totally belive his acting I find i dont feel their chemistry because she is so cold. the chemistry between Ruth Wilson and Toby Stephens is electric.
Toby Stephens is better than Dalton as Rochester but in a different way. I think that since he has a good Jane playing opposite him that helps but there is no sexual tension or chemistry between these two and Bronte has a whole bunch of sexual tension int he book. PLEASE WATCH 2006 IF YOU HAVEN"T! It's not as verbatim as this one but the acting is amazing.
I entirely agree with you. I don't think ZC is a good jane at all. I don't know why you got thumbs down for just speaking your mind.
Anyway, what I also find interesting is htat TD's Rochester is more on the agressive/kind side, whereas TS is dark/funny. These are really different takes on the character, and I enjoy them both. However, I do find the 2006 version better because there is electricity between JE and R that we don't see here.
@Malibuthunder said this Jane is too passive & unfeeling, that she's more spirited & passionate in the book.
Exactly: the book is written in the first person by Jane, so we all know her passion and spirit, but she was totally different on the outside to the people she knew. Rochester is the only person who could see the real Jane, the caged bird. In only their second conversation, he revealed that and could almost read her mind (And annoyed?!) The 2006 version is not for lovers of the book.
@pacemoy The 2006 version is a classic for those who love the book as well as those who've never read it, of course. But I completely agree, this version is for the people who have read the book and know the heart of Jane Eyre. I love this version more then any other that I have seen so far, I especially love how Dalton played Rochester very much like the book. ^_^
Dalton- best Rochester. Hands down. I got the chills :) Hah, but really...he is a superb actor, no one can deny that, even if he is not they're favorite 'version'. I love his zeal.
He doesn't shout at her through anger... It's the feeling of loosing his beloved Jane forvever! *Sigh*<3
JenPen1995 1 week ago
Hahahaha, I don't think that someone being "drunken, foul-mouthed, and unchaste" counts as being mad nowadays. It just sounds like a twenty-something on the weekends! :D
scrapasassafras 3 weeks ago
I absolutely *love* Timothy Dalton as Rochester, but I cannot stand Zelah Clarke as Jane. Zelah goes beyond portraying Jane as restrained and makes her look as though there is absolutely nothing going on inside her head. She recites lines and then seems to go blank until her next set of lines. Part of what makes Jane such a great character is that underneath all of her societal restraint she is fiery, smart, funny, passionate, and strong. Zelah doesn't portray that at all- her Jane is a mouse.
scrapasassafras 3 weeks ago
Did you see his tears? I did and I'm going out to fetch myself one of those men. I'll be back when my search is completed - expect me back in 50 years or so.
lillatufs 1 month ago 4
excellent theatre; not just the song of the speaking which is so expressive but the movements which are like a dance. it feels good to watch such artful theatre. If Charlotte Bronte were alive, she probably would have loved it and say; yes, this theatre expresses the inner fineness and essence of my book.
earth7heart 1 month ago
8:54.....i must admit......this book would have cut short right here if I was her. lol that passionate embrace is what dreams are made of.....
CaramelCleo 2 months ago
5:20 Ummmm.....can we get someone to zoom in please? at 240p, they just look like two big cubes trying to reconcile at that distance.....
CaramelCleo 2 months ago
I have to admit...Rochester's a hot mess here. O:
Trozanth 3 months ago
Timothy Dalton is the ACTOR of actors...He's fabulous in this, & very pleasing to watch, for sure!
SDPerry21653 3 months ago
I love how he yells at her, then says "I'm sorry, hush now, hush" as if she's been talking so much throughout all of this.
awesomeinuyashagirl 3 months ago
he's a Man.....a man with a capital M. and he makes me swoon.
Kamikazu08 4 months ago
@Kamikazu08 I agree. Oh be still my heart ! You can really feel for the guy's predicament.
MegaHappy2b 1 month ago
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Kamikazu08 4 months ago
I love the book and I love the adaptions but sometimes I think Edward could be a wee bit bipolar
AwesomeAnonymously 5 months ago
What's with all his pronounced PROnunciation I'm sure he SPITS whilst doing THAT
AwesomeAnonymously 5 months ago 2
@AwesomeAnonymously Stage training coming out, it must be hard to turn down the drameter.
TheEntryCode 2 months ago
he is...so TALL!!!!!
ragecomics123 5 months ago 3
Awww this scene is soo sweet my fav scene
glitternight16 5 months ago
He is crying. Ohmigod, he's crying. Okay, guys out there. When you SHOW emotion, that will be the day you get girls!!!
KarliMarieRoberts 6 months ago 9
Thumbs up if you think men in that era looked soooo much hotter with their hair and the way they dressed :D :D :D
1348577 6 months ago 33
@1348577 Totally! And they looked so gentleman-like and manly.. :D
phetsoisa 4 months ago
9:06 - 10:00
that just kills me. I feel terrible for them both.
creativewriter1000 6 months ago
I don't quit understand why he can't get a divorce, make her family take care of her and happily marry Jane. He could even do occasional visits. Can someone explain why he won't get a divorce?
beatifultruth1 6 months ago
@beatifultruth1 that only after the 1857 Matrimonial Causes Act (10 years after Jane Eyre was written), were adultery, cruelty, or desertion used as grounds for divorce in England. Before that time, divorces were extremely rare and expensive and were only granted through a private act of Parliament. Since Bertha was guilty of none of those things, plus being insane, Rochester could not obtain a divorce.
TheFallenangelme 6 months ago
@beatifultruth1 There is a law (which is still in use today) that a person cannot divorce a mentally unstable person because the mentally unstable person cannot represent themselves in court like a normal person would. So they have made it against the law. :/ That's why Mr. Rochester is so desperate to keep Jane. I hate the idiots that did that Mr. Rochester. THEY WERE HIS FAMILY!!!
KarliMarieRoberts 6 months ago
In my opinion, I prefer the way the 2011 version (Wasikowska-Fassbender) does this scene, even though it is a bit different than the way Bronte wrote it (and thus presented here). Here and in the book, Rochester comes across to me as domineering and not always sincere with his apologies.
In the 2011 version, Fassbender's Rochester is much more remorseful and there is much more anguish on both his and Jane's parts over their "breakup", which makes their reunion at the end that much more sweet.
atyleung06 6 months ago 4
@atyleung06 I like your points of view - it’s always nice getting to know different interpretations of stories^^ But the character development is interesting. He was domineering at this state of affairs, perhaps insincere even. Maybe not intentionally. I think he always respected Jane but at the same time he was used to get what he wanted. Losing Jane & the “accident” made him see the things in a different light. Something really shocking was needed to make him a bit more humble…
fakesmile90 6 months ago
@atyleung06 I liked that version too, though I was a bit disappointed with the ending...it was just so abrupt you know. I was hoping for some more romanctic gestures....
1348577 6 months ago
bravo she is the best Jane Eyre forever !!!!!
sup3rstar43v3r 7 months ago in playlist Jane Eyre 1983 5
He also says that he will get pleasure out of life, cost what it may, maybe in regards of marriying someone (even if he is already maried). Also in the book Mr Rochester does become agitated with Jane and esplains that if she doesnt listen to him then he will act violent; now many interpretations have said that this could be Rochester threatning to rape Jane, in my opnion I agree with that, there are hidden signs thoughout the book and the films that he is passionate, desperate and highly sexual
Lcplsexiiiking 7 months ago
@Lcplsexiiiking Mr. Rochester threatening to rape Jane? Really? I always thought he was a gentleman, albiet a very sexy one. Passionate, yes, but he loves her and wants her love and to do right by her as much as he is able, even though (to get her) he is willing to lure her into a bigamous marriage. IMHO, if he had only sex on his mind, he would've taken her after the fire when he had so much trouble letting go of her and controling himself. LOL She looked petrified and he looked ravenous ;P
pacemoy 7 months ago in playlist Jane Eyre 1983
@pacemoy Yes, he was threatening to rape her. It's so unlike Mr Rochester it implies his desparation. He genuinely frightens me in this scene, and I'm only watching it D:
LadyMackeral 6 months ago
right okay the reason why Mr Rochester gets so pasionate (and in some ways aggressive), is that he is desperate man trying to hold onto the one thing that he truly loves. Having to listen and watch Jane (his soulmate) leave is something that he cannot bare. Also, dont forget, is a very sexual man, in regards to his past relationships, we always get little snippets of his relationship with Celine; Mr Rochester is also a very dark and brooding man, which he explains near the beggining of the book
Lcplsexiiiking 7 months ago
This is the scene by which I judge every film adaptation of the novel. It shows the true characters of both Jane and Rochester and their respective complexities: their love, their struggle, his desperation, her strength. 2006 completely cheapened such a heartrending sequence with an unnecessarily tawdry display. And while 1973 version was much closer, this one still reigns supreme (with an extremely close second being the Fassbender-Wasikowska interpretation).
oboestavs 7 months ago 3
It is really only here that I fully appreciate how TALL Timothy Dalton is...To see him perch on the dainty furniture and then fold himself up onto the stool as he explains his marriage! WONDERFUL! As a tall woman I have to say, WONDERFUL! :):):)
maygoodcometous1 7 months ago
all I can think about at 1:36 is the poor costume designer. Having to cut out these tiny little outfits for Zelah Clarke and then crawling out of the yards of fabric that is Dalton's costume. What a contrast!
livelongnprosper92 7 months ago
does no1 else want to laugh at the way she says "i cannot be yours"? never imagined jane sounding like that
blondietitch26 8 months ago
oh ! i wish to have a man who loves me as crazily as rochester . pls God
bentlmaroc 8 months ago 4
I'd wish I can have a tall BF like Timothy Dalton :), to protect me in his arms ^^
wincipoet 8 months ago
My fav Jane is Ruth Wilson and my fav Rochesters include Timothy Dalton, Toby Stephens and Michael Fassbender.
wincipoet 8 months ago
I want to cry.
lionsscape 9 months ago
How freaking TALL is Timothy Dalton!
Girl4Happiness 9 months ago
@Girl4Happiness He's 6'2. Zelah is probably around 5'2 which is why he seems taller.
RetroJenny 9 months ago
@Woodlander65 I have to disagree with you about Wilson. She was just a beginning actoress and she did very well for her first movie. Give her some credit.
Girl4Happiness 9 months ago
Okay, this is probably the best part in this version. I realize that some people might think that a man begging is weak. I beg to differ :D This is a person opening up his heart and baring his soul in want of real love! A person with whom he can have a real connection to and have that love reciprocated. Okay I know, its just a book but damn! Timothy, you know you are THE MAN!
shespear97 9 months ago 4
Those who complain that Dalton is "scary" or "too aggressive" in this scene - he is, and that's why he's so great as Rochester! It works because his violence is very seductive, YET that little edge of sleaze in his attempts to seduce her are what make us understand that she has to leave him. Just like the book.
Ps - I'm a girl, and I'm asking all my ladies: should all men dress like TD in this scene all the time or what? At 3:05, WHAT? Those pants are off the hook. And that waistcoat. Yowza
Felix892 9 months ago 10
@Felix892 Yowza indeed! The fashions for women during this period were just awful...I mean, get a load of Miss Blanche's HAIRDO while she is staying at the house...The fashions for women only got better around the 1880's or so...But the fashion for men during this period...HOT HOT HOT!!! Give me a man who is DRESSED, for God's Sake! Not these boys with the trousers dragging on the ground...
maygoodcometous1 7 months ago 2
his heavy breathing is distracting :)
classicrocker452 9 months ago 7
Jane Eyre 2011 is still my favorite version, but I have to say, Timothy Dalton is a very close second to Michael Fassbender in my book in terms of sexiness. I don't like Zelah Clarke as Jane--I just personally can't feel anything for her
pippacrawford 9 months ago
He is way too hot for Rochester.
selacire 10 months ago 5
Charlotte Bronte was one of the best writers of English literature of all time!
grease97 10 months ago
I just bought this version from Amazon after seeing it was available on here. I showed it to my husband so he would know more about the story. He had a lot of questions after seeing the recent movie. With this series he now knows what is going on. There was too much left out in the recent movie.
janelle144 10 months ago
If I were Jane...when Timothy started crying I couldn't have left! lol He is the hottest thing I've ever seen in my life. lol I would've gone into a polygamous marriage any day for him! haha.
TwilightLuvvverxxx 11 months ago 5
@TwilightLuvvverxxx LOL -- Don't be so restrained! Tell us how you really feel!
pacemoy 10 months ago
@pacemoy I did? lol I don't understand your question :)
TwilightLuvvverxxx 10 months ago
@TwilightLuvvverxxx LOL -- I know you did; I wasn't being serious ;-) Obviously you couldn't be more open with us than to say that TD's the hottest thing you've ever seen in your life! And 98% of those commenting here feel the exact same way . . . so thanks for putting it into words for us! :P
pacemoy 10 months ago
@pacemoy Oh I get the sarcasm now. lol I'm retarded.
TwilightLuvvverxxx 10 months ago
@pacemoy WOW, considering that I use sarcasm on a daily basis, it's really quite sad that I didn't understand. lol You're good. Touche, my friend. Touche. :)
TwilightLuvvverxxx 9 months ago
@TwilightLuvvverxxx LOL -- Well, one thing I'm certain of -- neither of us is being sarcastic when we say that Timothy Dalton is the hottest thing we've seen in our lives!! Especially in this version of Jane Eyre ;-)
pacemoy 9 months ago
@TwilightLuvvverxxx
Me too! He's SO yummy! :D
Schraubili 10 months ago 2
I saw the new version and did not like it as much. TD's Rochester gets frantic but the Rochester in the new version gets downright mean, almost strangling Jane. The director said it would be a darker version but it should not go into abuse. A woman like Jane would have nothing of that sort of thing, she was too independent and knew bad people when she saw one.
Plus this is a series and more of the story is explained, the movie just had the highlights of the story and much was left out.
janelle144 11 months ago
@janelle144 Thanks for the mini review. The new version isn't playing anywhere near me but now I don't feel so bad about waiting for the Netflix DVD. I think this version has spoiled all the others for me anyway :P
pacemoy 10 months ago
hahaha he's nuts too hahaha
Dalton does a lovely job at being Rochester.
This version def. follows the book.
Bangerchick613 11 months ago
BABY COME BACK
LividusLuna 1 year ago 5
yes,I agree whith you ! Zelah Clarke is the best Jane Eyre !! And Thimothy Dalton is the best Rochester !!!!! Thiis is the best version of Jane Eyre !
vikachkaable 1 year ago 7
~This is my favorite version by far!!!
eternalstormy 1 year ago 2
rochester is fighting to win her back
how can this not be romantic
he is a passionate man
clazza01 1 year ago
God... Mr Rochester is completely insane in this scene...in cute sort of way... :)
teshanovic1 1 year ago 5
I really can't stand this interpretation of the book. Rochester goes from zero to sixty to zero to violent, and it's just not how I saw him acting at all. He's actually scary, not at all romantic.
deadzonefan13 1 year ago
I'd love to have a young Timothy Dalton rush after me and grab me as well and tell me that "I shall be his wife" .....*melts* ....
pinkpearls14 1 year ago 28
@pinkpearls14 18 Thumbs.....we women are alllllllll the same!!! xD
Malvina1987 2 months ago
Now THIS scene, would be excellent to take on as either a drama, or an english class project! :D Although it would mostly depend on whoever played mr. rocherster
loyalfalconflutist 1 year ago
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loyalfalconflutist 1 year ago
@Woodlander65 Well I thumbed up, because I found it a joke. It could hardly be possible for anyone to like someone like what she described, wether it be male or female. Yet, there are too many people of that kind lurking around...
Pluxu 1 year ago
Superb acting on Timothy Dalton's part. I have not seen many of his films, but this scene alone proves how versatile and how commendable an actor he is. To be able to play someone once so arrogant and haughty and serious, to this creature writing in self-inflicted torment and loss is indescribable.
writerspen010 1 year ago 7
it must have taken a lot of control to say "no, I will leave you". I don't think I could've done that. His desperation and love was just...WOW
Mimio100987 1 year ago 3
Timothy Dalton is an excellent Rochester. I read that he considers this role his personal favourite. My only complaint is that Zelah Clarke looked too old for the part (Jane is suppossed to be 18, and Ms. Clarke looks at least 30), but she did a good job. A new film version of this classic story is coming to theaters next year, and oddlly, is rated PG-13.
BibleJoker2Face 1 year ago
this scene simply breaks by heart. To see a man who once was so hard, indifferent to others, become humbled, drawn to his weak knees by the one that he loves. To see a man who can rage so passionately at one moment, and then tenderly, and softly hold his desire in his arms as though she were a bird. and yet she will not stay
loyalfalconflutist 1 year ago 10
annulments & divorce were not unheared of -
divorce had a stigma
annulment due to insanity would have not been contested
i think this story is more gothic than it needed to be
but surely would not have been half so enjoyable
who doesnt love a tortured romance ? - same principle as to why twilight is so popular
aahhsplat 1 year ago
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evybeth92 1 year ago
@Woodlander65 It's nice to know that guys like you still exist :-) I'm afraid you aren't what average experience would call typical these days :-( Ah, where did all the romance go? So much for women's lib. Women have the liberty to do what? Live alone and raise a family alone. Wonderful. We've come a long way, baby.
pacemoy 1 year ago
God! This scene always breaks my heart, this Edward is far more better then that lame ass Edward Cullens.
orlandobabe 1 year ago 7
hahah this jane is like an old lady..this version pisses me off! i m still with 2006 version!
dizue 1 year ago
Omg this Jane pisses me off idk y. Mr Rochester is amazing, but jane's actress just doesn't play her well and she's too short compared to him. Idk I think 2006 version's Jane is the best.
anahit93 1 year ago 4
i absolutely love every bit of this scene. he is so tortured at the thought of losing her. it's so sweet and tragic!
mickeycrazy1 1 year ago 6
WOW I haven't seen so much of Rochester's anguish shown before... Well acted Mr Dalton. what a brilliant portral of his utter dispare, I am really enjoying this version of Jane Eyre.. can't wait to see what St John Rivers is like... :0)x
wenglishsal 1 year ago
@wenglishsal I agree with you about Dalton, this is definately the best portrayl of Rochester.
orlandobabe 1 year ago 33
@orlandobabe ... I didn't say that I liked Timothy Dalton the best... BUT he is rather AWESOME in this version of Jane Eyre... My absolute favourites are Toby Stephens & Ruth Wilson... I also like Ciaran Hind & Samantha Morton...
Actually I will watch ANY version of Jane Eyre because I always find something different in the essence of the characters... :0)x
wenglishsal 1 year ago 2
@wenglishsal, I think that Ciaran Hinds was absolutely miscast as Rochester. He screamed and bawled his way through almost every scene (though Samantha Morton was excellent as Jane). But Timothy Dalton was PERFECT as Rochester. He's a Shakespearean actor, so i assume he went back to the novel to study his part, and as a result we have a wonderful performance.
BibleJoker2Face 1 year ago
@BibleJoker2Face ... I do see your point about Timothy Dalton.. YES an excellent Rochester, but I still have my fav's too... And Toby/Ruth are still tops for me, followed by Ciaran/Samantha ... BUT Tim was REALLY amazing too... BUT I do believe that I said before, I will watch ANY version, because I love the book so, and all actors bring out something very different if their interpretation of ROCHESTER...*swoons* :0)x
wenglishsal 1 year ago
@wenglishsal, to each his own. A new film version of this classic story will be coming to theaters next year starring the girl from "Tim Burton's Alice In Wonderland" as Jane, Michael Fassbender as Rochester & Academy Award winner Dame Judi Dench as Mrs. Fairfax. I have my reservation about it, though, because it's rated PG-13. But I'll still see it when it comes out.
BibleJoker2Face 1 year ago
@BibleJoker2Face .. Ooh I will keep an eye out for that then... I do love Jane Eyre.. Should be very interesting *raises eyebrows* Best regards from Wet and Windy Wales :0)x
wenglishsal 1 year ago
@BibleJoker2Face ,
I couldn't agree more,TD's is the best film/TV interpretation of Rochester so far.His R. captures the energy of the novel's R., the damaged virile fluency , the eloquent self-disgust, the redeemable cynicism of the character. Somebody like CH (an otherwise excellent actor) was oddly flat -and the flatness was not disguised by his bluster; as forTB he was dreamy, a woolgatherer with nothing of the aggressive melancholy of the novel's R., which TD embodied so well.
MarthaDelios 1 year ago 2
did Mrs. Fairfax know about Bertha all along?
corporategeese 1 year ago
This version is my favorite!!! Actors are winderful. And this scene is so passion, magnificent, may to say, hot. Other versions are different, they haven't this spirit
PrueStevens 1 year ago
He's sooo lovely!!! I always fall in love with his at this scene watched it SOOO many time now!!
does anyone know how tall she is? she's like a hobbit!!!
He's nice and tall though yummmmmmy!!
SKA336 1 year ago 4
@SKA336 5' 3'' or 5' 4'' anyway he's so extremely tall that she looks shorter
cookiechokie 1 year ago
@cookiechokie is she really?! Gosh thats taller then me! I thought she'd be shorter!!
SKA336 1 year ago
rawr. This is the most hottest scene between these two.
TheEntryCode 1 year ago 6
I had thought the 2006 version was terrific, but this one trumps it. Dalton's Rochester is magnificent. I never knew Mr. Dalton was such a terrific actor (and so bloody sexy). I think the Bond thing had coloured my thinking with regards to Dalton's talent a bit too much. Also, I do adore his Healthcliff as well. I think I am won over.
Ellison1965 1 year ago 5
I am waiting for the temper. He still wants what he wants and he doesn't get her at all if he thinks she'll go with him. He knows she loves him and is using every tool he has to entrap her. He knows he's married, horrible as it is. He calls her integrity, "stubborness." Shameful. Her love is based on an honorable man and he isn't. "No man injured in the breach." No, just one little woman and the children she would bare him.
Songsmirth 1 year ago 5
@Songsmirth You have good understanding, I see. Wisdom, indeed..It's rare to hear this moral talk being upheld strongly with faith these days. I'm so happy to read this.
temasekgirl 1 year ago
this seen breaks my heart every time i see it but ... the words " hush hush now " makes me very Confidence of his love ... I like this seen really
drenasssss 1 year ago
badly done..
lack of passion, suffering...
the best is 2006 version.
this is weak, very weak...
woodyaan 1 year ago
@woodyaan in the 2006 version there was a lot more kissing and the scene was just more sexual. whereas this version stays true to the book and really emphasizes how great this decision is. it is kind of weak.....but i think its more truthful. just saying =]
nelly11796 1 year ago
@nelly11796 agree about that. but artistic expression is very strong in later version. these people can not act. I get bored. too realistic....I mean I am glad you guys like it.
woodyaan 1 year ago
this scene is so violent compared to the 2006 version
aijiew 1 year ago
Booze. The solution for any illness.
Serenityluver 2 years ago 3
he's got really spidery legs...
polkadotpolka123 2 years ago
Thank you for the explanation!
friendsfamilyaccount 2 years ago
Don't get this part "I could not rid myself of her by legal means; for by now the doctors had discovered she was mad." WHA? Was there a law then that you couldn't divorce a mad woman? I get that divorce was scandalous, but there certainly must have been provisions for a mad woman who tried to kill her husband...
friendsfamilyaccount 2 years ago
As I've been writing here and there about it, divorce as the dissolution of the bond of marriage wasn't and still isn't admitted in the Church of England.
The only provision for a case like that was and still is the so-called separation 'quoad thorum et habitationem' (literally, from bed and home).
mendoncacorreia 2 years ago
Actually it WAS a law, if your spouse was mad you couldn't divorce them back then. I dont know why it was there, but my guess would be it was meant to protect the nutty spouse, it was still unfair to the sane partner though.
someonerandom1000 2 years ago
we were talking about this in my english lesson. my teacher thinks that mr rochester thought that it was wrong to divorce a mad woman because otherwise she would be put into a mad asylum where she would be whipped and treated incredibly badly.
polkadotpolka123 2 years ago
No, no - not at all!
The Church of England never admitted divorce as the dissolution of the bond of marriage: remember what happened with Prince Charles and Princess Diana.
The first psychiatric asylum to be built in England was Hanwell in 1831: "Jane Eyre" is supposed to happen before that, around the 1820s.
mendoncacorreia 2 years ago
aaaaaahh. ok.
but, in the book, when they do the charades scene, they act out the word "Bridewell" which was the name of a mad asylum.
polkadotpolka123 2 years ago
The "Bridewell" of that charade was a palace which was built for Henry VIII, who lived there between 1515 and 1523. It was turned into a prison, hospital and workrooms in 1556. Most of it was destryoed in 1666, during the Great Fire of London.
mendoncacorreia 2 years ago
So if he divorced her they wud still be married?
ADyingFaith 2 years ago
@ADyingFaith - Yes, they would. It was the so-called "imperfect divorce", also known as 'separation from bed and board'.
mendoncacorreia 2 years ago
@mendoncacorreia Thankx for the reply. I think i wud like to read up on it.
ADyingFaith 2 years ago
I disagree; I don't think I'd have been strong enough either, however, she made the RIGHT decision. Had she stayed with him, she wouldn't have been able to live with HERSELF. That comes out clearly in the book. In the same way marrying John later would have "killed" her slowly as she said, remaining with Rochester now would have also killed who "Jane Eyre" was and what he fell in love with originally. She'd no longer have been "Jane".
calamtykel 2 years ago
id have gone with him! But then again, women at that time were bought up differently so I guess they'd always think that was very wrong.
wtfusernameftl 2 years ago
@wtfusernameftl yeah they were brought up very different and also if (not that he would) he ever dumped her, she'd be pretty much screwed. She wouldn't be able to get a job ANYWHERE because her "reputation" would be ruined. Besides, it all works out in the end, right?
someonerandom1000 2 years ago
The way Mr.Rochester is speaking and holding Jane makes me wish to be in her place instead!! So much love he has for her!
TinklightningGus07 2 years ago 7
I just loooove the way he holds her when she falls...i get all tingled...;-))
misskittycat19 2 years ago 35
@misskittycat19 TOTALLY GIRL! :D
smilemarie14 1 year ago
@misskittycat19
It's like he's breathing her in, smelling her....whoa...that makes me all hot and bothered too
mturtle660 1 year ago 6
@mturtle660
I meant when she stumbles out of her door
mturtle660 1 year ago
@misskittycat19 I totally agree
pinkpearls14 1 year ago
thats what i thought timothys so big that she looks like a child lol
DeadlyNightShade60 2 years ago
he;s wearing a reallyy!! really tight pants... hahahha! but i lvoe himmm
anagg17 2 years ago
I love the way he's holding her when she falls... :-)
84elizabetha1 2 years ago 9
@84elizabetha1 mee tooo!!
anagg17 2 years ago
wow he is soo tall!
DestinedRevolution 2 years ago
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UHHHHHH! UUUUGLY Jane!!!!:((((
cseszter7210 2 years ago
this reminds me of my exboyfriend
semiramisme 2 years ago
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Ugh he's so flippant.. I wouldn't marry him because he's so hard to read and aggressive
scaramouchenebula7 2 years ago
I have seen the interpretation of Jane Eyre in both the 1983 and 2006 version. This scene is one of the strongest in the book. I would have liked to see it interpreted in the 2006 version as well. You get to see Mr. Rochester's despair and anguish to keep Jane, while Jane sees the need to sacrifice herself for what is morally correct. It is a truly moving scene.
symphonies17 2 years ago 48
I agree, i missed this from the 2006 version.
ADyingFaith 2 years ago 6
@ADyingFaith 2006 sucked
supernoahman 2 years ago 2
I agree, I missed it in the 2006 version (which does NOT suck but is amazing) but the writers CHOSE to transform it completely into the falshback scenes.
If we had gotten that scene (my fav of all books of all times btw) in the 2006 version, we wouldn't have gotten as clearly how he tries to subdue her both emotionally and physically. It's really interesting, because it's a different take on R's character: agressive/kind vs dark/funny. To me the 2nd is truer but not for that specific scene.
agneskenya 2 years ago
@symphonies17 Which is better this one or the 2006 one, for me I love this version of this, it is more passionate and moving. Very moving if you know what I mean.
orlandobabe 1 year ago 3
@orlandobabe
That depends on what you want. If you want a purist version this is the one. If you want a sweet love story the 2006 one is better. And no - it is not because of the bedroom scene! The acting in 2006 is far better.
But Timothy Dalton is making an awesome Rochester. Not moving like Toby Stephenson but true archetype.
MsSilentia 1 year ago
@MsSilentia Actually I thought this version played off really close to the book and plus Dalton had the voice, the looks and the height for Rochester and plus he made it passionate and funny and mysterious like the book and Clarke played the perfect plain but beautiful Jane Eyre. The 06 one, I didn't care much for at all.
orlandobabe 1 year ago
@orlandobabe
Surely it contains many more scenes and makes more fair to the intricate story. I would not argue about that. But I really do not like Clarke's Jane.
To me the child actress who plays Jane is the great plus in this version, besides TD who really IS THE Mr Rochester. His acting makes me laugh even though it is seriously meant.
But if I think of the acting as a whole - I prefere the new version even if it makes a simpler story.
MsSilentia 1 year ago
I know what disturbs me in this one. It would be awesome on stage, with grandios acting and stylized lines, but it does not fit in an intimate medium like movie or TV.
Of course it is possible to combine this kind of lines with delicat, camera close acting. The 1996 P&P proves it possible. But here it just does not work. I think this one best when there are no grande lines.
Still this Rochester is really amusing. But it is the arch type of Commedia dellArte. Not a real human portrait.
MsSilentia 1 year ago
" she was drunken, foulmouthed, unchaste, disgusting"
that sounds like the ideal woman to a lotta guys :)
evangeline135 2 years ago 37
I know that seems to describe a modern 21st century woman.
ADyingFaith 2 years ago 4
@evangeline135 I was thinking the same thing!!
Ellison1965 1 year ago
@evangeline135 I've thought about what you've said Evangeline and I think you're wrong. Maybe they like those kind of women for playing around with but NOT to be their wives. I don't know any man that wouldn't want a chaste woman for their lifelong companion.
Songsmirth 1 year ago
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vfvphantom 1 year ago
Sorry--gotta say one more thing--in the book after he says you've not wept at all, he adds-maybe you've been crying internal tears of blood (or something like that). It is so sad! In the book he acknowledges that just because she is not crying on the outside doesn't mean that she is not suffering deeply. Her passion is INSIDE.
OrchestraTeacherVA 2 years ago 5
I think this version shows more clearly how hard it was for her to adjust to her superior being in love with her---men of this time were NOT "accustomed to marrying their governesses." This Jane (this actress) moves about quietly--as if she is well aware of her station--the job of servants was to blend into the background. To me it is poignant because she HAD to learn to be quiet, calm in order to survive--like Rochester says--she is a caged bird. Tim is...Da Bomb. Most underrated actor alive.
OrchestraTeacherVA 2 years ago 12
I think this Jane does an admirable job--of all the versions I've seen-she is the most physically like "Jane;"she is small, not a raving beauty, pale, almost sickly--BUT seen in another light (through the eyes of love)--she is "unearthly." As far as this actress's interpretation--Jane is passionate, but that doesn't mean always flailing about--her passion is meant to be contrasted with Bertha's--her passion is one of the spirit.
OrchestraTeacherVA 2 years ago 11
Well said Orchestra Teacher :)
roliboom 2 years ago 2
physically I like Charlotte Gainsbourg in the 1996 version the best, but unfortunately, the movie having to be short etc, there it was not a good transcription of the book at all, not even in its spirit. Both chemistry and Bronte's lines were missing, which is too bad because Hurt and Gainsbourg are both great actors
agneskenya 2 years ago 3
I love dalton but i really dislike her as jane. she is too emotionless. Jane should be passionate and spirited not an emotionless statue. the 2006 one isnt accurate to the book but it does have a brilliant jane. And although i love him as Rochester and totally belive his acting I find i dont feel their chemistry because she is so cold. the chemistry between Ruth Wilson and Toby Stephens is electric.
Malibuthunder 2 years ago 5
I couldn't agree more. TD rocks his part, ZC doesn't.
I love how he goes from agressivity to kindness in a few seconds in that scene (my fav of the book btw)
agneskenya 2 years ago
Toby Stephens is better than Dalton as Rochester but in a different way. I think that since he has a good Jane playing opposite him that helps but there is no sexual tension or chemistry between these two and Bronte has a whole bunch of sexual tension int he book. PLEASE WATCH 2006 IF YOU HAVEN"T! It's not as verbatim as this one but the acting is amazing.
girasole143 2 years ago
I entirely agree with you. I don't think ZC is a good jane at all. I don't know why you got thumbs down for just speaking your mind.
Anyway, what I also find interesting is htat TD's Rochester is more on the agressive/kind side, whereas TS is dark/funny. These are really different takes on the character, and I enjoy them both. However, I do find the 2006 version better because there is electricity between JE and R that we don't see here.
agneskenya 2 years ago
i really dont like her as jane, she seems to unfeeling and too passive, i far prefer her more spirited and passionate as she is in the book.
Malibuthunder 2 years ago 4
@Malibuthunder said this Jane is too passive & unfeeling, that she's more spirited & passionate in the book.
Exactly: the book is written in the first person by Jane, so we all know her passion and spirit, but she was totally different on the outside to the people she knew. Rochester is the only person who could see the real Jane, the caged bird. In only their second conversation, he revealed that and could almost read her mind (And annoyed?!) The 2006 version is not for lovers of the book.
pacemoy 1 year ago 3
@pacemoy The 2006 version is a classic for those who love the book as well as those who've never read it, of course. But I completely agree, this version is for the people who have read the book and know the heart of Jane Eyre. I love this version more then any other that I have seen so far, I especially love how Dalton played Rochester very much like the book. ^_^
DaniMovieWarrior 1 year ago 5
How about we don't even mention Twilight? It's not worthy to be even mentioned here.
Jane had the guts to get away from Rochester and was strong and independent by the book's ending.
Meyer glorifies stalking. She should be absolutely ashamed to compare her books with the greats.
ignisia 2 years ago 9
Dalton- best Rochester. Hands down. I got the chills :) Hah, but really...he is a superb actor, no one can deny that, even if he is not they're favorite 'version'. I love his zeal.
minxb89 2 years ago 15