I never could understand this. You're not part of the team, you don't make the money, get the women, or the glory. Not only that, you can support the team all you want, but the team or players won't do so much as to grant you an interview for a job with them despite your undying loyalty and support. Granted...without You, "the fans", all of this would cease to exist.
So..it's people who watch the human physique at it's best,and basically worship that image while watching it preform certain useless simple yet very hard goals.It's an addiction to the body that comes from people who can't do that since their own life is on the way,or they don't want to be in danger.Has they watch it,they gain the achievement of flesh without needing to work for it.Also,it brings a massive distraction from their own boring and simple life has they see this huge display of power.
i always viewed sports as using all our primitive instincts and capabilties into a clever hunt, like if someone is gonna score a goal then they feel the danger or something... idk its difficult to explain.
I personally never liked watching sports..To me, say going to a swimmin pool is to swim or a forest is to hike... where to most the pool is a place to lay down and a forest is something to see at a distance. Playing football with just males is boring, but when everyone plays, even with the same rules and actions, it is fun.
Drinking, People already act stupid enough... where there is beer, I am not...
I"m not speaking about everyone, but the majority... as I see the world...
I think the title of the video is very interesting but it doesn't get into the real fun part of the "Philosophical Arguments".
At some point it goes a little deeper like what philosophers are focusing on ! It would be really great if philosophers focus directly on mind and body part , in future videos.
I don't get what people like about watching other people do stuff. I like playing sports, but I get absolutely no pleasure from watching others do it. It's the same with video games, and with music, I like seeing how the music is made (the video that goes with the audio). But with music, if you turned down the audio, and I would just see the image, I wouldn't get any pleasure out of that either. Spectating in general sucks.
I find the question of the ubiquity and obsessiveness of sports to be very interesting. Obsession with sports tends to be a masculine trait and likely derives from tribal instinct and millions of years of warfare. Over evolutionary eons men have done the fighting, not women, making men the actors and women among those objects gained through victory. Instinctive differences between men and women reflect this, though this reality offends our current sensibilities about being politically correct.
@TulliusVII And yet... women have for years been active viewers and fans of such sports as figure skating, gymnastics, etc. Women are ardent sports fans, but traditionally the sports have had more of an artistic slant... What do you think that speaks to?
@waynefeller I do agree that women are adversely fans of watching sport. However, women are evolutionary influenced to watch sports in order to find better mates to get better off-spring or set a model figure of finding a mate in order to have the same results as the dominating male individual.
If there were one idea I wish could magically become commonplace it would be the difference between the anecdotal and the statistical. I just knew someone would respond with something like “women are ardent sports fans”
-Compared to whom? Compared to chimpanzees? Women are NOT ardent sports fans compared to men. NOT EVEN CLOSE. And that’s the point I was trying to start with, but with the popular tendency to always blur such obvious differences its basically a NON-starter.
Oh really? You used statistics? Perhaps you just didn't understand how I was referring to the fact that statistically men are FAR more into sports than women. Rather, you had to point out to me what "ardent" sports fans women are as if my implied statement was: Men like sports, women do not. I implied no such thing in any absolute sense. Your comment shows your lack of basic comprehension, and was a typically reflexive "lets make things equal" response. Baa.
@TulliusVII You are right, it was a knee-jerk reaction. But I think there is a misunderstanding here. I was not claiming that women are as likely to watch sport as women (although I can understand why you would think that I was trying to make that point.) Rather, I was trying to state that women who are sports fans are statistically more drawn to sports with an "artistic" slant. I apologise for the misunderstanding.
Apology accepted. And I apologize if my response seemed a bit aggressive. As for your other point I must agree that the differences between sports/athletics that we associate with women is also interesting. In many competitions, like gymnastics or co-ordinated dance or synchronized swimming, there is not simply a utilitarian “put the ball through the hoop/over the line more times and win” but a much heavier emphasis on style, on appearance.
um i feel like i learned nothing so i assume im terrible at understanding or your terrible at explaining ...posibility of both
...my take
i dont find watching sports intresting however i like watching my older brother play video games and so ima lump them in the same category for several reason but anyway i enjoy it simply because if i tried what he does i could not compete however when he does play i feel as thogh i have the potential to do so and sometimes feel like i am
I'm from Vancouver where fans rioted after losing game 7 of the NHL Finals. Fans lost themselves and become part of a cohesive mob (for good and bad).
Gracchus from Gladiator said, "I think he knows what Rome is. Rome is the mob. Conjure magic for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of Rome is not the marble of the senate, it's the sand of the coliseum. He'll bring them death - and they will love him for it."
Ha ha, a chance to be an "early adopter" on one of Brady's channels!
Haven't watched a video 2 times in several months. Wasn't sure I was really on board with what this guy was talking about, so I gave it another go and watched the video again. Makes more sense the second time around.
I never could understand this. You're not part of the team, you don't make the money, get the women, or the glory. Not only that, you can support the team all you want, but the team or players won't do so much as to grant you an interview for a job with them despite your undying loyalty and support. Granted...without You, "the fans", all of this would cease to exist.
rickdarko 2 months ago
So..it's people who watch the human physique at it's best,and basically worship that image while watching it preform certain useless simple yet very hard goals.It's an addiction to the body that comes from people who can't do that since their own life is on the way,or they don't want to be in danger.Has they watch it,they gain the achievement of flesh without needing to work for it.Also,it brings a massive distraction from their own boring and simple life has they see this huge display of power.
Wharwulif 4 months ago
So you play sport and do maths? I play sports and do math.
Ormaaj 6 months ago
Mmmmmh, Potato Chips!
blenderpanzi 6 months ago
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i always viewed sports as using all our primitive instincts and capabilties into a clever hunt, like if someone is gonna score a goal then they feel the danger or something... idk its difficult to explain.
FingerMyFinger 6 months ago
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FingerMyFinger 6 months ago
This is the most profound perspective on spectator sport I've ever heard. I'm anxiously awaiting more in this series! Thank you!
lvachon 7 months ago
I personally never liked watching sports..To me, say going to a swimmin pool is to swim or a forest is to hike... where to most the pool is a place to lay down and a forest is something to see at a distance. Playing football with just males is boring, but when everyone plays, even with the same rules and actions, it is fun.
Drinking, People already act stupid enough... where there is beer, I am not...
I"m not speaking about everyone, but the majority... as I see the world...
cyclenut 7 months ago
I think the title of the video is very interesting but it doesn't get into the real fun part of the "Philosophical Arguments".
At some point it goes a little deeper like what philosophers are focusing on ! It would be really great if philosophers focus directly on mind and body part , in future videos.
MegaExquisite1 7 months ago
@MegaExquisite1 well, hopefully we're just getting started! :)
PhilosophyFile 7 months ago
@PhilosophyFile : Oh sure. Best wishes.
MegaExquisite1 7 months ago
I don't get what people like about watching other people do stuff. I like playing sports, but I get absolutely no pleasure from watching others do it. It's the same with video games, and with music, I like seeing how the music is made (the video that goes with the audio). But with music, if you turned down the audio, and I would just see the image, I wouldn't get any pleasure out of that either. Spectating in general sucks.
mostliberal 7 months ago
@mostliberal I agree. I've always thought that too.
spankthereasoner 7 months ago
It's dumb entertainment. Let's stop at a superior nest. :p
KittySN 7 months ago
I find the question of the ubiquity and obsessiveness of sports to be very interesting. Obsession with sports tends to be a masculine trait and likely derives from tribal instinct and millions of years of warfare. Over evolutionary eons men have done the fighting, not women, making men the actors and women among those objects gained through victory. Instinctive differences between men and women reflect this, though this reality offends our current sensibilities about being politically correct.
TulliusVII 7 months ago
@TulliusVII And yet... women have for years been active viewers and fans of such sports as figure skating, gymnastics, etc. Women are ardent sports fans, but traditionally the sports have had more of an artistic slant... What do you think that speaks to?
waynefeller 7 months ago
@waynefeller I do agree that women are adversely fans of watching sport. However, women are evolutionary influenced to watch sports in order to find better mates to get better off-spring or set a model figure of finding a mate in order to have the same results as the dominating male individual.
Sockheadableful 7 months ago
@waynefeller
If there were one idea I wish could magically become commonplace it would be the difference between the anecdotal and the statistical. I just knew someone would respond with something like “women are ardent sports fans”
-Compared to whom? Compared to chimpanzees? Women are NOT ardent sports fans compared to men. NOT EVEN CLOSE. And that’s the point I was trying to start with, but with the popular tendency to always blur such obvious differences its basically a NON-starter.
TulliusVII 7 months ago
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waynefeller 7 months ago
@waynefeller
Oh really? You used statistics? Perhaps you just didn't understand how I was referring to the fact that statistically men are FAR more into sports than women. Rather, you had to point out to me what "ardent" sports fans women are as if my implied statement was: Men like sports, women do not. I implied no such thing in any absolute sense. Your comment shows your lack of basic comprehension, and was a typically reflexive "lets make things equal" response. Baa.
TulliusVII 7 months ago
@TulliusVII You are right, it was a knee-jerk reaction. But I think there is a misunderstanding here. I was not claiming that women are as likely to watch sport as women (although I can understand why you would think that I was trying to make that point.) Rather, I was trying to state that women who are sports fans are statistically more drawn to sports with an "artistic" slant. I apologise for the misunderstanding.
waynefeller 7 months ago
@waynefeller
Apology accepted. And I apologize if my response seemed a bit aggressive. As for your other point I must agree that the differences between sports/athletics that we associate with women is also interesting. In many competitions, like gymnastics or co-ordinated dance or synchronized swimming, there is not simply a utilitarian “put the ball through the hoop/over the line more times and win” but a much heavier emphasis on style, on appearance.
TulliusVII 7 months ago
um i feel like i learned nothing so i assume im terrible at understanding or your terrible at explaining ...posibility of both
...my take
i dont find watching sports intresting however i like watching my older brother play video games and so ima lump them in the same category for several reason but anyway i enjoy it simply because if i tried what he does i could not compete however when he does play i feel as thogh i have the potential to do so and sometimes feel like i am
AlexanderVFX 7 months ago
Interesting take.
I'm from Vancouver where fans rioted after losing game 7 of the NHL Finals. Fans lost themselves and become part of a cohesive mob (for good and bad).
Gracchus from Gladiator said, "I think he knows what Rome is. Rome is the mob. Conjure magic for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of Rome is not the marble of the senate, it's the sand of the coliseum. He'll bring them death - and they will love him for it."
ryanpiuma 7 months ago
@ryanpiuma hey, keep watching us... you might find some upcoming videos interesting! :)
PhilosophyFile 7 months ago
@PhilosophyFile You were absolutely right. The subsequent videos are fantastic.
ryanpiuma 6 months ago
@PhilosophyFile People get excitement out of sports when they support their teams!
kjchicago1 3 months ago
Ha ha, a chance to be an "early adopter" on one of Brady's channels!
Haven't watched a video 2 times in several months. Wasn't sure I was really on board with what this guy was talking about, so I gave it another go and watched the video again. Makes more sense the second time around.
heyandy889 7 months ago
@heyandy889 glad to have you on board! Brady
PhilosophyFile 7 months ago
@Badgerinthenight Simply by saying that, you now seem uneducated.
RBIVscreamtherequiem 7 months ago 7
So what is the philosophy of binge-drinking chav football fans?
Tonjevic 7 months ago
@Tonjevic It's tribal. :) This video is awful :/
Badgerinthenight 7 months ago
To have the first comment on a Brady clip... I have to think of something clever to say... or a good quote:
Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals! Except the weasel. (Homer Simpson).
TimothyMass 7 months ago
@TimothyMass
“Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose; it's how drunk you get.” (Homer Simpson)
TimothyMass 7 months ago 9
A really interesting topic (in my view), & one which I often wonder about...thanks! :)
carpeinfinitum 7 months ago 2
@carpeinfinitum cheers!
PhilosophyFile 7 months ago