The COTLB, as portrayed in this movie is quite accurate historically in terms of What Actually Happened and How. Being made in 1968, it was done as an anti-war statement - check parts 2 and 3 for the full horrors of 19thC warfare, compared to the Erroll Flynn 1939 version which pops up on late-nite TV from time-to-time. Folly vs Noble Tragedy.
2:26 Good point. Men who know what they are doing on the battle field, kill more. Knowlegeable men in recent times have kill far more people than their aristocratic predecessors.
7:05. It looks like Surat Kahn made it into this movie, too.
You guys complaining that Britain and France betrayed Christianity, have to realize the Crimean War was about preserving European balance of power. If Western Europe really thought the Ottomans needed to go, they could have destroyed it themselves decades if not centuries before. Fact is they didn't trust any country that got too strong, Christian or not. If Russia won the war it would have annexed Constantinople and vassalized the Balkans, and that was simply too much turf to let Russia have.
im a brit and a common person so to speak at the end of the day we will always follow orders from hes commarder win are loose....but 8 times out of 10 the brits well always win belive history tells the tell......
What the hell were we doing fighting for muslims, we should have allied ourselves to the russians charged the turks and together freed Constantinople. What a waste of british soldiers , stupid..... BRITAIN and FRANCE betrayed christianity.
Christianity betrayed them first when it demanded that they send men to fight and die for lands that they had no care for or desire for with promises of "glory" and "the kingdom of heaven". Religion's a poor reason for war, it serves only to divide us in the face of those we should be fighting, the ones who send us out to fight and die for trivial causes.
@xylaphonemaster christianity didnt send them to fight for the turkish sultan, the british and french governments sent them, business interests being their main concern, I agree our lads had no say in it, they died for worse than nothing, they died for islam, rather like blair and clinton sending them against the serbs, in both cases you had the shamefull position that the british army was allied to islamic terrorism, the russians were fighting to free christian nations.
@xylaphonemaster There was nothing "trivial" about the Mohammedans invading and conquering Jerusalem - and then pissing all over the Christians. They had absolutely No Right to be there. Europe was Christian whether you "like it" or not. Sooner or later people have to fight usurpers and would-be conquerers. And eventually they did. The very thought of the Holy Land being occupied by a Massive army of Arabs who were created to destroy Christianity - then invade Europe - was Repulsive to......
@xylaphonemaster 2)...Europeans - who had no choice but to attack the invaders. Maybe if Islam hadn't been so Dumb as to invade Europe in the first place.....
Of Course they (Europeans) had desires for glory!!, why on Earth would they not??!! They would be freeing the seat of their Spiritual beliefs from a New Breed of Army - one that began with the concept of Jihad - killing in the name of God. A new, improved God - with them as the Master Race. Just like now. Islam was spread by the sword...
@xylaphonemaster 3)...the sword (what, you think these guys got up in market places and Preached?!!)...and the Reward the mohammedans got was LOOT and LITTLE KINGDOMS. Yeah, real Spiritual. And what do you mean by saying "The ones who send US to die for 'trivial causes'? - who's ever sent You to fight for anything?..are you actually "Judging" the Past?!! - you must be very young, very naive or just stupid. Or maybe this is your 1st visit to the planet Earth. From Pandora?
@slideharp1 Don't be an idiot. The average Joe got sod all from the crusades. And if they were that "spiritual" why did they sack the everloving shit out of Constantinople in the IVth crusade? Yeah they had no right to go and take the holy lands, but that was the holyland's problem. Why should French or English or German people die for it? There was no tangible gain, it was all over what the Pope considered "holy".
@xylaphonemaster WTF is "the average Joe"? The Holy Land's "problem" was Christianity's problem. The muslims had to be gotten OUT. The idea of them even Being there was Repulsive. It was Christianity's Duty to evict them. English, French and Germans went to The Holy Land because they Wanted to. What, are you saying they were Conscripted? - GET REAL! They were knights. Knights were fighting men - didn't you Know that??! The Pope Asked them. Soldiers Liked to fight...and volunteered in droves.
@slideharp1 Chrstianity was largely forced upon people in those times. Look at the Tuetonic knights in Lithuania or the Spanish Inquisition. And I'm not saying they were forced, I'm saying they were duped with false promises of absolution and riches.
@xylaphonemaster You're skipping from century to century, back and forth and asking Stupid questions. You clearly have No Frame Of Reference and (literally) Don't Know what you are talking about. And you seem to know sod-all about history. Before you continue commenting on Christianity and it being Forced on people, lol - you should READ about the Synod of 664A.D.....in England, old chap. And don't go to your wiki, you need to know it as described by (the venerable) Bede - he was There.
@xylaphonemaster Muslims invaded the most holy city in all of christianity (Jerusalem) and conquered it by the sword. Imagine Christians conquering Mecca. It wouldn't matter how long they had seized control of it for the Muslims would still want it back. What is a few hundred years of control if your holiest city was seized by the infidel?
@xylaphonemaster The very idea of Muslims compaining about the Crusades to this day is hypocrisy of the highest standard and Europeans who continue to apologise for it are morons. The Crusades were as nothing in comparison to the Muslim conquests of Christian lands throughout North Africa, the Levant, Turkey, the Balkans, the Iberian Peninsular and even the lower half of Italy. The Muslims virtually destroyed the Zorastrian religion by conquest and forced their religion upon northern India
@thebigJM92 Exactly. The muslim invasions of Europe are conveniently not even mentioned. 700 years of Iberian occupation. The New World would not have been 'discovered' if they had not occupied all the routes to the East which is where 'luxury goods' were brought from. It was about Retarding Christian nations' continued developement and isolating them. With Rome's power gone they were looking to control the World - as now. Islam is not a religion, it's an Ideology disguised as religion.
@thebigJM92 I agree, the muslims were still the bigger arseholes of the two, but my point was that all of the religions involved caused war and bloodshed on an unprecedented scale, and as I do not hold any religion dear, it's pretty shit seeing people die by the thousands for what in my eyes are corrupt religions based on previous religions, superstition and fear.
@xylaphonemaster Ah that is a fair point you make. It is awful to see history littered with wars fought because of religion. Of course if you scratch beneath the surface you find that many of these wars were REALLY fought for money, power and/or prestige, and that religion was the excuse necessary to get the lower orders enthusiastic and whip up support.
my guess that having todays weapons, you could effectively stop that charge with 4 ma dueces (.50) set up with cross fire at about 600 yards. Any body else have an idea?
Its a great scene about a tragic charge that took place because of in fighting between the commanders. Cardigan, Raglan and Lucan despised each other. There is alot of historical facts that were left out but generally its accurate. A lesson to all about arrogance and lack of communicaton in war.
Its a great scene about a tragic charge that took place because of in fighting between the commanders. Raglan and Lucan despised each other. There is alot of historical facts that were left out but generally its accurate. A lesson to all about arrogance and lack of communicaton in war.
3) One of the most important figures of Italian Risorgimento (although he is largely unknown in Italy), Giuseppe Govone, who at that time was a young soldier of the Piedmontese contingent, also participated to the charge as a volunteer. As he saw the Brigade was preparing to attack, he joined it spontaneously, only for the sake of participating in a bold military action. He was then made a Member of the Order of the Bath by the British, and later became Minister of War of the Kingdom of Italy.
2) Stupid Nolan! He was too anxious and lacked of sang-froid, then gave the message in an approximate way. It is not clear whether he indicated Cardigan the correct position of the artilley (on the right flank) or if he pointed the wrong guns in front of him. In any case, he is responsible for Cardigan misunderstood. It seems that he tried to correct the direction of the attack (see min. 8:20), but it was too late!
1) Stupid Raglan! He should have thought about the fact that from his position downstream, Cardigan did not have a good perspective and could not catch sight of the guns on the redoubts on the right flank, i.e. the artillery that actually was the target of the attack. The only guns Cardigan and Lucan could visualize clearly were those standing in front of them at the end of the valley.
@Briselance 1 The attack of the 4th Chasseurs D'Afriqiue was a seperate action. At no time was the Light Brigade and the Chasseurs in contact, in fact the starting postitions of the two were half a mile apart. The French commander used his own initiative and ordered the attack. They did a fantastic job of silencing the Russian battery but the Russians regrouped and tried to retake the guns. The Chasseurs then retreated to their original positions.
@Briselance 2 They never covered the retreat of the Light Brigade, the Chasseurs had to save themselves. To quote Commander Durand de Villers;- "The movement succeeded: riflemen and gunners who wanted to shoot the English Cavalry as it retired gave up their project. But the masses of infantry, pushed back at first by the impetuosity of our Africans, rallied and, reinforced by the Wladimir regiment, prepared to take the offensive with their artillery. General General d'Allonville seized....
@Briselance 3 ...the moment and caused the retreat to be sounded. Twelve Chasseurs and two officers- one of them Captain Dancla- were killed.
The myth of the Chasseurs covering the retreat of the LB originates from the memoirs of the Russian General de Todleben who wasn't even there to see the action for himself.
i explain to my friends constantly that this movie is SATIRICAL, but they just don't get it =D
it isn't a "war movie" like, say, Saving Private Ryan or Platoon; it was created to demonstrate hypocrisy and horror. if only my friends would get that, they may start to LIKE this movie, lol ;) instead of discounting it as "yet another boring Technicolor blah blah blah movie"....
@alexp9999 No because it seems it is being taken as a nationalistic showcase. Anything British related in this era put up on Youtube will have a plethora of commenter's with broken English insulting and/or bigging up their own respective nations.
@alexp9999 This is No "Satire", bub - it may Rock Your World to know that this is a depiction of an Historical event that was 100 times more bloody than what you see here. If you had any knowledge of The Crimean War, you wouldn't come up with such cretinous bullshit. Also, maybe you can explain where you get the Notion that it was "Created to demonstrate hypocrisy". WTF does that Mean? - Who's 'hypocrisy' are you on about?
In Fact, did you know that commanding Officers of this battle are NOT known for their achievements in this fight, but for achievements in inproving soldiers garment like the RAGLAN-arm in pullovers (a knitting thing, my wife told me) as well as the CARDIGAN, in this time state of the art knitted jacket, named from the commanding one, who brought it in sevice to get the soldier protected from coldness in this war (actually in russia) and make him able to fight in unconfortable (cold) conditions
the most lasting things commanders in this battle did was to name the "Cardigan", a dress to withstand cold conditions, and the "Raglan", a knitting technique for arms on jackets for cold weather... its a knitting thingy, my wife told me...
however, the empire did not earned much honor for this one (except of the knitting thingy) in history...............
@tjormegand You and your wife missed out another very important garment for which we can thank the Crimean War; the Balaclava helmet. Got us thru' those cold winter school mornings.
@slideharp1 what was? Are honor and stupidity twins? Why on earth does one attempt to hide stupendous stupidity with honor?? Guilt..shame...ingorance... I m not sure
@billybobrustupid That wasn't my contention, bitch - what WASN'T honourable??? your name should be billydumbasscunt. Now fuck off back to your playstation, you don't have the Stomach for War.....in fact, you'd soil your pants. Off with you now.
@slideharp1 stop acting like a cunt you American musician wanta be....you fucking british cant invent a goddamn chord of music wo copying the USA...how pathetic..slidedickboy...stomach for war?? I dont have the stupidity for it and being fucking stupid can only be hidden by the stupidity of honor...british style...try and be more original suckharpboy1...by the way if I did soil my pants I d have your mother clean them so no worries about that issue you fucking wanker
@billybobrustupid Here's a better idea - why don't you suck shit outta your mama's asshole and blow it outta yout nose, ya dumb bitchfaggot. Sorry you ended up chewing the carpet after looking at my channel, LMFAO - but don't worry, you'll find a way to make some kind of meaning to your sad-ass waste of a life......well maybe not. You don't have the "stupidity" for war? WTF does that Mean?....guess it means you're a scared little wimp who wishes he could find a piece of pussy one of these years.
@slideharp1 It means you small minded british wankers are weak sad and pathetic...as witnessed by this event....hmmm Galipoli pops up too...looking at your channel shows how weak you are....silly boys who make music shouldnt talk about war...your a little girl entertainer not a soldier silly boy....yes you are correct..I donot have the stupidity for war....god save the king and queen and all that...Mr churchill says we shalll fight them blah blah...what he didnt say was with americans..boy
@slideharp1 Yes and we are being defeated in Afghanistan too....but we werent after Vietnam nor will we be after this war insignificant like Britian...we wont be socialist either paying for a bunch of Immigrants to live in our country too. We ll still be powerful and call the shots for you people..hell you cant even defend yourselves...how long have we had to keep bases there??? Dont be so fucking ignorant...you people are weak and have used your resources you dont have in a dumbass way
@alexp9999 This film reflects the reality of the events of the Crimean War. This battle is known to you as Heli Attack of the Light Brigade into the valley of death. Ballad about this battle, written by Alfred Tennyson is included in the school curriculum in England.
I think to create soon an video on the Crimee’s War between the Allied France-the UK vs Russia because like usually I see here more idiotic vanity by unscholar & suckers fanatics English who dont know the truth but only their eternal perfidious & untrue propaganda & liers to give them the only glory...
In 1st Ok no problems for this charge and the nice sacrifice of the English Light Cavalry
BUT it was pratically the only great action of the Brit Army during this war...
The Crimee’s War is an important war in the History
It mark the 1st Modern War by the use for the first time of modern weapons and much more fatal than in the past : Automatic guns, machins-guns, explosive balls drawn by the “canons”, etc..
In this time again like in the time of the Napoleonic age, the only true force of the UK especially in front of the others big European powers was its Navy
But Its Army was not enough strong to support alone a war vs another European great power, vs Russia so in this Crimee’s War
& of course on the ground it was the French Army who supported pratically all the efforts for the Allied side : Numbers of soldiers, numbers of guns, number of battles vs the Russians
& it was in true the French Armies who saved more times the Brit Armies in bad situation vs the Russian Armies
The majority of the great battles during this war were supported & won by France !!
& so you see here a perfect example again & again of the untrue English propaganda always very strong to take one act even little to increase it to do believe that they were the only glory in one war, by books or even movies like this
BUT the true winner of the Crimée’s War is France
France thanks to this victory won on the ground by the French alone pratically, after its defeat in 1815 vs all the European kings united vs it, take again its important & true place in the European continental geopolitic : The 1st
Louis Bonaparte then president of the French Republic, benefitted from this new victory of the French Armies after that of the 1st Empire, to create the second French Empire and to become Napoleon III after that of his famous uncle Napoleon 1st in 1804...
I thought for a moment you might of been from a neutre nation, but you're not, French, who's propaganda and bullshit is just as profounds as U.Ks.
There is no misunderstandings or deceits about the British army in the Crimea, but there was British moments Heavy and Light charges on the same day, which was 2 more cavalry charges than France.
Alma we shared the honours with France, Sevastabol, U.K played its part, but at Inkerman Britain were decisive...
a guy, a raostbeef like you, perfect mind roastbeef is a nice example for me :-)
More guys like you will write their perfidious and untrue propaganda on History more guys like me wil have an examples of those we say to show (to the not-roastbeef-minds of course thus the majority of guys here ^^) :-)
You kill History thats all you do and will continue to do, not your fault though, your born into it, its like your a mutant from birth on your teachings of Militery History.
...So you see a perfect example of your ancient blind hatred of the so called bitter and untrue French Propaganda always stirring up mischief on Youtube, and to believe from the cradle that you are the only nation on gods earth that can fight when required, yes France had its victory's and were contributing more than everyone else, but at day's end the Crimean War was a draw, the treaty in paris afterward meant little to anyone.
BUT it was pratically the only great action of the Brit Army during this war...
The Crimee’s War is an important war in the History
It mark the 1st Modern War by the use for the first time of modern weapons and much more fatal than in the past : Automatic guns, machins-guns, explosive balls drawn by the “canons”, etc..
In this time again like in the time of the Napoleonic age, the only true force of the UK especially in front of the others big European powers was its Navy
Lord Raglan gets a bad rap in history, I think. He was a good officer in his youth, but the command of a whole army, at that age, was simply beyond him. Poor old boy.
I laugh at all of you trying to learn history from a movie. Why not try picking up a few history books written by those who researched BOTH sides. Instead of a fantastical story, embelished to increase its entertainment value and make money. Those of you who watch a movie and then think they now know accurate history are laughable.
Actually I'm often surprised at how much movies get right, when you consider how badly it could go. Check out George Maconald Fraser's 'A Hollywood History of the World', which examines how and where the movies get history right and wrong.
@2210ethan Oh I am sure that movies do get things right as well. I laugh at those who ONLY use movies as a basis for learning history though. That was my point. Even when Hollywood gets history right though, they usually still embelish it in some fashion.
At 9:26 the Russian officer commands 'Огня!' whereas actually Russian command to start shooting is 'Пли!' 'Огня' sounds like if he needed fire to light up a cigarette. :)
Cardigan was pompous fool! It is doubtful that he even completed the charge himself! He lived in luxury on a boat while his men died of disease and neglect! In truth the entire campaign was a shinning example of the British not being prepared for the task at hand.
In every war the British will be doing very well and then they screw it up by having a huge frontal assault and getting set back or losing. In world war two change frontal assault to parachuting far beyond supply lines... or St Nazaire
This film is one of the most exhilirating and educational films I have ever seen. It is extremely accurate and the characters are very well portrayed. I LOVE IT; Does anyone know where I can buy it
I can't believe he said that line, "It will be a sad day when the British Army is led by officers who know what they are doing" My god how did they ever get an empire???
@MegaWolfgang Discipline, hubris and discipline. The British figured out what the Romans knew. A disciplined, steadfast army will win 9 times out of 10.
@MrBumbooo You are an idiot. Was this a tactical blunder by Britain? YES. Was roughly 600 cavalry soldiers lost do to the confusion in their messaging relay? YES. Does that diminish the heroism of the individual soldier following orders? NO. You twit, every soldier is heroic, no matter what side he fights for. It is unfortunate that incompetent commanders are usually the ones claiming all the heroism, when it is the individual soldier that is spilling their blood.
@onegemini77 Yes you are correct. And when you consider that they were flanked on 3 sides by copious amounts of Russian artillery it is a miracle of skill and bravery that this 600 men swept through 2 Russian defensive lines and actually CAPTURED the guns before they were driven back by Russian cavalry. On a more successful note was the Heavy Brigade which engaged a Russian cavalry force twice its size and won.
@imaginosss aye..sad the Brits didn't have some system of communication, i.e. bugler near the command position. Ragland's bugler could have signaled another bugler closer to the Brigade, who then in turn could have recalled Cardigan and company with an Emergency or Recall...
buuut they didn't =/ can you imagine sitting there, having to watch all this unfold in person and in living color...? scary and sad =/
@imaginosss Right on. Discipline...but more than that. Like the Romans, the Brits suffered defeat (no army wins Every battle any more than a football or baseball team)..but Learning from that defeat and evolving.
@slideharp1 Precisely. No army wins every battle. The Roman military machine was probably the most efficient and effective for its time period in world history. But even they suffered many serious reverses in their heyday.
@Dogmeat1950 He was defeated and driven out of India.... It all depends on the tactical/strategic genius of wach individual commander. Alexander went power crazy which affected his strategic good sense.
@thebigJM92 he never lost a battle, Alexander was never defeated. would you like to make something else up he took 50,000 men and took over the known world. he won all his battles in Indian he left India because his men wanted to go back home.
@Dogmeat1950 Alexander's campaign in India was very similar to Napoleon's campaign in Russia. They both of them never lost a battle themselves (they were still tactically brilliant) but their power had made them mad and take on something that was way too big for them, strategically insane. Alexander's men wanted to go home because in India he blundered them into a hellhole of pain in which they were savagely mauled.
@Dogmeat1950 I am NOT a critic of Alexander the Great. I believe he deserves his title and he is quite possibly the greatest general in history. But to suggest that he did not make military mistakes culminating in strategic defeat is wrong. Wellington made those types of mistake too.
@Dogmeat1950 Alexander's father Philip gifted Alexander the best army in the world and a stronger power base than any Macedonian or Greek before him. Much of his success can be attributed to his otherwise flawed father.
@thebigJM92 That's right. Philip Of Macedon was the man who actually Built the Macedonian Army into a force that was previously derided by the Athenians/Spartans who considered Macedonia to be an 'upstart' province. He could've done greater things had he not been murdered. This, of course, takes nothing away from the achievements of Alexander - The Great.
Flash'd all their sabres bare, Flash'd as they turn'd in air, Sabring the gunners there, Charging an army, while All the world wonder'd: Plunged in the battery-smoke Right thro' the line they broke; Cossack and Russian Reel'd from the sabre stroke Shatter'd and sunder'd. Then they rode back, but not Not the six hundred.
Cannon to right of them, Cannon to left of them, Cannon behind them Volley'd and thunder'd; Storm'd at with shot and shell, While horse and hero fell, They that had fought so well Came thro' the jaws of Death Back from the mouth of Hell, All that was left of them, Left of six hundred.
The futility of the action and its reckless bravery prompted the French Marshal Pierre Bosquet to state "C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre." ("It is magnificent, but it is not war.") He continued, in a rarely quoted phrase: "C'est de la folie" ("it is madness.")
Folly and madness it may have been, but by god no-one can say that those men werent the bravest of the brave.
Raglan, Lucan and Cardigan all loathed each other. None was a decent commander. Cardigan had some guts at least. Nolan was experienced but was deemed to have not enough class to be a cavalry officer. Somehow I get the feeling from written testimonies published since that not one of the survivors had any regrets about their place in history. They were professional soldiers and accepted death as an occupational hazard.
I know that Americans are more proud of having a truck than of having an academic degrees.
Well, maybe that's because they usually have none.
You know, I've met almost illiterate Egyptians who worked as truck drivers. They also were very proud of themselves and mocked at the Egyptians who worked as tourist guides telling the tourists the history of Ancient Egypt.
And for the record RETARD society depends on truck drivers to deliver supplies like groceries and food to supermarkets. without them you wouldnt be able to shop for anything you IDIOTIC FUCKER
the point is Nolan is pointing to the wrong valley and the wrong group of Russians. Lucan and Cardigan are surprised, not because they hadn't seen them, but because attacking this group head on would be suicidal
The COTLB, as portrayed in this movie is quite accurate historically in terms of What Actually Happened and How. Being made in 1968, it was done as an anti-war statement - check parts 2 and 3 for the full horrors of 19thC warfare, compared to the Erroll Flynn 1939 version which pops up on late-nite TV from time-to-time. Folly vs Noble Tragedy.
slideharp1 1 year ago
That Nolan guy's pretty annoying. Who does he think he is?
DarthFanta 1 year ago
02:17 LOL, will be a sad day when British army is led by officers who know what they're doing
steelpanther88 1 year ago
"Good morning sir"....is that British gentleman for Fuck Off?
hydroflounder 1 year ago
I love all these movies from the 60's. From John Wayne to Michael Caine, I don't care lol
dukenukem252 1 year ago 2
2:26 Good point. Men who know what they are doing on the battle field, kill more. Knowlegeable men in recent times have kill far more people than their aristocratic predecessors.
7:05. It looks like Surat Kahn made it into this movie, too.
shanghaibenny2 1 year ago
You guys complaining that Britain and France betrayed Christianity, have to realize the Crimean War was about preserving European balance of power. If Western Europe really thought the Ottomans needed to go, they could have destroyed it themselves decades if not centuries before. Fact is they didn't trust any country that got too strong, Christian or not. If Russia won the war it would have annexed Constantinople and vassalized the Balkans, and that was simply too much turf to let Russia have.
mosquitobight 1 year ago
im a brit and a common person so to speak at the end of the day we will always follow orders from hes commarder win are loose....but 8 times out of 10 the brits well always win belive history tells the tell......
leemeires 1 year ago
What the hell were we doing fighting for muslims, we should have allied ourselves to the russians charged the turks and together freed Constantinople. What a waste of british soldiers , stupid..... BRITAIN and FRANCE betrayed christianity.
shipmate99 1 year ago
Christianity betrayed them first when it demanded that they send men to fight and die for lands that they had no care for or desire for with promises of "glory" and "the kingdom of heaven". Religion's a poor reason for war, it serves only to divide us in the face of those we should be fighting, the ones who send us out to fight and die for trivial causes.
xylaphonemaster 1 year ago
@xylaphonemaster christianity didnt send them to fight for the turkish sultan, the british and french governments sent them, business interests being their main concern, I agree our lads had no say in it, they died for worse than nothing, they died for islam, rather like blair and clinton sending them against the serbs, in both cases you had the shamefull position that the british army was allied to islamic terrorism, the russians were fighting to free christian nations.
shipmate99 1 year ago
@xylaphonemaster There was nothing "trivial" about the Mohammedans invading and conquering Jerusalem - and then pissing all over the Christians. They had absolutely No Right to be there. Europe was Christian whether you "like it" or not. Sooner or later people have to fight usurpers and would-be conquerers. And eventually they did. The very thought of the Holy Land being occupied by a Massive army of Arabs who were created to destroy Christianity - then invade Europe - was Repulsive to......
slideharp1 1 year ago
@xylaphonemaster 2)...Europeans - who had no choice but to attack the invaders. Maybe if Islam hadn't been so Dumb as to invade Europe in the first place.....
Of Course they (Europeans) had desires for glory!!, why on Earth would they not??!! They would be freeing the seat of their Spiritual beliefs from a New Breed of Army - one that began with the concept of Jihad - killing in the name of God. A new, improved God - with them as the Master Race. Just like now. Islam was spread by the sword...
slideharp1 1 year ago
@xylaphonemaster 3)...the sword (what, you think these guys got up in market places and Preached?!!)...and the Reward the mohammedans got was LOOT and LITTLE KINGDOMS. Yeah, real Spiritual. And what do you mean by saying "The ones who send US to die for 'trivial causes'? - who's ever sent You to fight for anything?..are you actually "Judging" the Past?!! - you must be very young, very naive or just stupid. Or maybe this is your 1st visit to the planet Earth. From Pandora?
slideharp1 1 year ago
@slideharp1 Don't be an idiot. The average Joe got sod all from the crusades. And if they were that "spiritual" why did they sack the everloving shit out of Constantinople in the IVth crusade? Yeah they had no right to go and take the holy lands, but that was the holyland's problem. Why should French or English or German people die for it? There was no tangible gain, it was all over what the Pope considered "holy".
xylaphonemaster 1 year ago
@xylaphonemaster WTF is "the average Joe"? The Holy Land's "problem" was Christianity's problem. The muslims had to be gotten OUT. The idea of them even Being there was Repulsive. It was Christianity's Duty to evict them. English, French and Germans went to The Holy Land because they Wanted to. What, are you saying they were Conscripted? - GET REAL! They were knights. Knights were fighting men - didn't you Know that??! The Pope Asked them. Soldiers Liked to fight...and volunteered in droves.
slideharp1 1 year ago
@slideharp1 Chrstianity was largely forced upon people in those times. Look at the Tuetonic knights in Lithuania or the Spanish Inquisition. And I'm not saying they were forced, I'm saying they were duped with false promises of absolution and riches.
xylaphonemaster 1 year ago
@xylaphonemaster You're skipping from century to century, back and forth and asking Stupid questions. You clearly have No Frame Of Reference and (literally) Don't Know what you are talking about. And you seem to know sod-all about history. Before you continue commenting on Christianity and it being Forced on people, lol - you should READ about the Synod of 664A.D.....in England, old chap. And don't go to your wiki, you need to know it as described by (the venerable) Bede - he was There.
slideharp1 1 year ago
@xylaphonemaster Muslims invaded the most holy city in all of christianity (Jerusalem) and conquered it by the sword. Imagine Christians conquering Mecca. It wouldn't matter how long they had seized control of it for the Muslims would still want it back. What is a few hundred years of control if your holiest city was seized by the infidel?
thebigJM92 1 year ago
@thebigJM92 P.S. Slideharp here.
gyrofoam1 1 year ago
@xylaphonemaster The very idea of Muslims compaining about the Crusades to this day is hypocrisy of the highest standard and Europeans who continue to apologise for it are morons. The Crusades were as nothing in comparison to the Muslim conquests of Christian lands throughout North Africa, the Levant, Turkey, the Balkans, the Iberian Peninsular and even the lower half of Italy. The Muslims virtually destroyed the Zorastrian religion by conquest and forced their religion upon northern India
thebigJM92 1 year ago
@thebigJM92 Exactly. The muslim invasions of Europe are conveniently not even mentioned. 700 years of Iberian occupation. The New World would not have been 'discovered' if they had not occupied all the routes to the East which is where 'luxury goods' were brought from. It was about Retarding Christian nations' continued developement and isolating them. With Rome's power gone they were looking to control the World - as now. Islam is not a religion, it's an Ideology disguised as religion.
gyrofoam1 1 year ago
@gyrofoam1 Well said!
thebigJM92 1 year ago
@thebigJM92 I agree, the muslims were still the bigger arseholes of the two, but my point was that all of the religions involved caused war and bloodshed on an unprecedented scale, and as I do not hold any religion dear, it's pretty shit seeing people die by the thousands for what in my eyes are corrupt religions based on previous religions, superstition and fear.
xylaphonemaster 1 year ago
@xylaphonemaster Ah that is a fair point you make. It is awful to see history littered with wars fought because of religion. Of course if you scratch beneath the surface you find that many of these wars were REALLY fought for money, power and/or prestige, and that religion was the excuse necessary to get the lower orders enthusiastic and whip up support.
thebigJM92 1 year ago
British army, best of the best! :)
MrJasonSmarts 1 year ago
I get the satire but it is still a very bad movie… M.A.S.H. it isn’t.
Zardoz215 1 year ago
my guess that having todays weapons, you could effectively stop that charge with 4 ma dueces (.50) set up with cross fire at about 600 yards. Any body else have an idea?
HuasoPodrido 1 year ago
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Its a great scene about a tragic charge that took place because of in fighting between the commanders. Cardigan, Raglan and Lucan despised each other. There is alot of historical facts that were left out but generally its accurate. A lesson to all about arrogance and lack of communicaton in war.
btho5531 1 year ago
Its a great scene about a tragic charge that took place because of in fighting between the commanders. Raglan and Lucan despised each other. There is alot of historical facts that were left out but generally its accurate. A lesson to all about arrogance and lack of communicaton in war.
btho5531 1 year ago
Fucking suicides dogs.
cerdomann23 1 year ago
Shame the lady is not pretty.
erzan 1 year ago
I like the expression of the Russian soldiers. They're thinking, WTF?
antarcticamoon 1 year ago
3) One of the most important figures of Italian Risorgimento (although he is largely unknown in Italy), Giuseppe Govone, who at that time was a young soldier of the Piedmontese contingent, also participated to the charge as a volunteer. As he saw the Brigade was preparing to attack, he joined it spontaneously, only for the sake of participating in a bold military action. He was then made a Member of the Order of the Bath by the British, and later became Minister of War of the Kingdom of Italy.
dockavurzione 1 year ago
2) Stupid Nolan! He was too anxious and lacked of sang-froid, then gave the message in an approximate way. It is not clear whether he indicated Cardigan the correct position of the artilley (on the right flank) or if he pointed the wrong guns in front of him. In any case, he is responsible for Cardigan misunderstood. It seems that he tried to correct the direction of the attack (see min. 8:20), but it was too late!
dockavurzione 1 year ago
@dockavurzione they give orders in mistake on perpous
xifrostix 1 year ago
1) Stupid Raglan! He should have thought about the fact that from his position downstream, Cardigan did not have a good perspective and could not catch sight of the guns on the redoubts on the right flank, i.e. the artillery that actually was the target of the attack. The only guns Cardigan and Lucan could visualize clearly were those standing in front of them at the end of the valley.
dockavurzione 1 year ago
David Hemmings is just great in this. Thanks for posting this!
hibob418 1 year ago
There has* to be mentionned that the survivors of the Light Brigade had their retreat covered by French Army units.
*Is it correct, or is it "there have" ? Anyone, what's the right answer, please ?
Briselance 1 year ago
@Briselance 1 The attack of the 4th Chasseurs D'Afriqiue was a seperate action. At no time was the Light Brigade and the Chasseurs in contact, in fact the starting postitions of the two were half a mile apart. The French commander used his own initiative and ordered the attack. They did a fantastic job of silencing the Russian battery but the Russians regrouped and tried to retake the guns. The Chasseurs then retreated to their original positions.
bipbap123 1 year ago
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@bipbap123
"The attack of the 4th Chasseurs D'Afrique was a seperate action"
Yes, but it still bought some time to the surviving British cavalrymen to retreat a bit safer.
"the Russian General de Todleben"
Todleben ? His name sounds quite German, for a Russian general.
Briselance 1 year ago
@Briselance 2 They never covered the retreat of the Light Brigade, the Chasseurs had to save themselves. To quote Commander Durand de Villers;- "The movement succeeded: riflemen and gunners who wanted to shoot the English Cavalry as it retired gave up their project. But the masses of infantry, pushed back at first by the impetuosity of our Africans, rallied and, reinforced by the Wladimir regiment, prepared to take the offensive with their artillery. General General d'Allonville seized....
bipbap123 1 year ago
@Briselance 3 ...the moment and caused the retreat to be sounded. Twelve Chasseurs and two officers- one of them Captain Dancla- were killed.
The myth of the Chasseurs covering the retreat of the LB originates from the memoirs of the Russian General de Todleben who wasn't even there to see the action for himself.
bipbap123 1 year ago
Battle watching. Perverts.
sqccccccccc 1 year ago
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" God save the Queen"
73876565 1 year ago
i explain to my friends constantly that this movie is SATIRICAL, but they just don't get it =D
it isn't a "war movie" like, say, Saving Private Ryan or Platoon; it was created to demonstrate hypocrisy and horror. if only my friends would get that, they may start to LIKE this movie, lol ;) instead of discounting it as "yet another boring Technicolor blah blah blah movie"....
alexp9999 1 year ago 8
@alexp9999 No because it seems it is being taken as a nationalistic showcase. Anything British related in this era put up on Youtube will have a plethora of commenter's with broken English insulting and/or bigging up their own respective nations.
Talbot6832 1 year ago
@alexp9999. Yes, but the mains aspects of the battle are accurate (e.g. Nolan's flawed explanation of Raglan's orders)
antarcticamoon 1 year ago
@alexp9999 Saving Private Ryan is a war movie?xD
ImperialGuard9001 1 year ago
@ImperialGuard9001 Yes Saving Private Ryan is a war movie. Just a shame its not accurate!
thebigJM92 1 year ago
@alexp9999 This is No "Satire", bub - it may Rock Your World to know that this is a depiction of an Historical event that was 100 times more bloody than what you see here. If you had any knowledge of The Crimean War, you wouldn't come up with such cretinous bullshit. Also, maybe you can explain where you get the Notion that it was "Created to demonstrate hypocrisy". WTF does that Mean? - Who's 'hypocrisy' are you on about?
slideharp1 1 year ago
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tjormegand 1 year ago
In Fact, did you know that commanding Officers of this battle are NOT known for their achievements in this fight, but for achievements in inproving soldiers garment like the RAGLAN-arm in pullovers (a knitting thing, my wife told me) as well as the CARDIGAN, in this time state of the art knitted jacket, named from the commanding one, who brought it in sevice to get the soldier protected from coldness in this war (actually in russia) and make him able to fight in unconfortable (cold) conditions
tjormegand 1 year ago
the most lasting things commanders in this battle did was to name the "Cardigan", a dress to withstand cold conditions, and the "Raglan", a knitting technique for arms on jackets for cold weather... its a knitting thingy, my wife told me...
however, the empire did not earned much honor for this one (except of the knitting thingy) in history...............
tjormegand 1 year ago
@tjormegand You and your wife missed out another very important garment for which we can thank the Crimean War; the Balaclava helmet. Got us thru' those cold winter school mornings.
gyrofoam1 1 year ago
@tjormegand ...Why, what was not "honourable" about the charge of the Light Brigade?.
slideharp1 1 year ago
@slideharp1 what was? Are honor and stupidity twins? Why on earth does one attempt to hide stupendous stupidity with honor?? Guilt..shame...ingorance... I m not sure
billybobrustupid 1 year ago
@billybobrustupid That wasn't my contention, bitch - what WASN'T honourable??? your name should be billydumbasscunt. Now fuck off back to your playstation, you don't have the Stomach for War.....in fact, you'd soil your pants. Off with you now.
slideharp1 1 year ago
@slideharp1 stop acting like a cunt you American musician wanta be....you fucking british cant invent a goddamn chord of music wo copying the USA...how pathetic..slidedickboy...stomach for war?? I dont have the stupidity for it and being fucking stupid can only be hidden by the stupidity of honor...british style...try and be more original suckharpboy1...by the way if I did soil my pants I d have your mother clean them so no worries about that issue you fucking wanker
billybobrustupid 1 year ago
@billybobrustupid Here's a better idea - why don't you suck shit outta your mama's asshole and blow it outta yout nose, ya dumb bitchfaggot. Sorry you ended up chewing the carpet after looking at my channel, LMFAO - but don't worry, you'll find a way to make some kind of meaning to your sad-ass waste of a life......well maybe not. You don't have the "stupidity" for war? WTF does that Mean?....guess it means you're a scared little wimp who wishes he could find a piece of pussy one of these years.
slideharp1 1 year ago
@slideharp1 It means you small minded british wankers are weak sad and pathetic...as witnessed by this event....hmmm Galipoli pops up too...looking at your channel shows how weak you are....silly boys who make music shouldnt talk about war...your a little girl entertainer not a soldier silly boy....yes you are correct..I donot have the stupidity for war....god save the king and queen and all that...Mr churchill says we shalll fight them blah blah...what he didnt say was with americans..boy
billybobrustupid 1 year ago
@billybobrustupid Uh-huh......keep chewing the carpet, sonny.
slideharp1 1 year ago
@billybobrustupid .....and like y'man said; "We weren't defeated in Vietnam, it was a draw"!!!...LMAO - Seeeeeyaa...wouldn't wanna Beeeyya!
slideharp1 1 year ago
@slideharp1 Yes and we are being defeated in Afghanistan too....but we werent after Vietnam nor will we be after this war insignificant like Britian...we wont be socialist either paying for a bunch of Immigrants to live in our country too. We ll still be powerful and call the shots for you people..hell you cant even defend yourselves...how long have we had to keep bases there??? Dont be so fucking ignorant...you people are weak and have used your resources you dont have in a dumbass way
billybobrustupid 1 year ago
@billybobrustupid Uh-huh - you're a deeply disturbed human being.
slideharp1 1 year ago
@slideharp1 nooo...your the flaming hubrio war lover...we ve got a flag do youuuu have a flag?? type shit run for the hills boy
billybobrustupid 1 year ago
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@alexp9999 If you like this movie you should watch Attenboroughs classic
"oh oh oh its a lovely war"
southlondon63 1 year ago
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@alexp9999 If you like this movie you should see Richard Attenboroughs classic "oh oh oh it's a lovely war "
southlondon63 1 year ago
@alexp9999 This film reflects the reality of the events of the Crimean War. This battle is known to you as Heli Attack of the Light Brigade into the valley of death. Ballad about this battle, written by Alfred Tennyson is included in the school curriculum in England.
multiextremal1 1 year ago
@multiextremal1 Yes, Half-a-league, half-a-league.....
slideharp1 1 year ago
1a)
I think to create soon an video on the Crimee’s War between the Allied France-the UK vs Russia because like usually I see here more idiotic vanity by unscholar & suckers fanatics English who dont know the truth but only their eternal perfidious & untrue propaganda & liers to give them the only glory...
In 1st Ok no problems for this charge and the nice sacrifice of the English Light Cavalry
It is a true fact in this war
cumbas 1 year ago
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2a)
BUT it was pratically the only great action of the Brit Army during this war...
The Crimee’s War is an important war in the History
It mark the 1st Modern War by the use for the first time of modern weapons and much more fatal than in the past : Automatic guns, machins-guns, explosive balls drawn by the “canons”, etc..
In this time again like in the time of the Napoleonic age, the only true force of the UK especially in front of the others big European powers was its Navy
cumbas 1 year ago
3a)
But Its Army was not enough strong to support alone a war vs another European great power, vs Russia so in this Crimee’s War
& of course on the ground it was the French Army who supported pratically all the efforts for the Allied side : Numbers of soldiers, numbers of guns, number of battles vs the Russians
& it was in true the French Armies who saved more times the Brit Armies in bad situation vs the Russian Armies
cumbas 1 year ago
4a)
The majority of the great battles during this war were supported & won by France !!
& so you see here a perfect example again & again of the untrue English propaganda always very strong to take one act even little to increase it to do believe that they were the only glory in one war, by books or even movies like this
BUT the true winner of the Crimée’s War is France
cumbas 1 year ago
5a-end)
France thanks to this victory won on the ground by the French alone pratically, after its defeat in 1815 vs all the European kings united vs it, take again its important & true place in the European continental geopolitic : The 1st
Louis Bonaparte then president of the French Republic, benefitted from this new victory of the French Armies after that of the 1st Empire, to create the second French Empire and to become Napoleon III after that of his famous uncle Napoleon 1st in 1804...
cumbas 1 year ago
@cumbas
I thought for a moment you might of been from a neutre nation, but you're not, French, who's propaganda and bullshit is just as profounds as U.Ks.
There is no misunderstandings or deceits about the British army in the Crimea, but there was British moments Heavy and Light charges on the same day, which was 2 more cavalry charges than France.
Alma we shared the honours with France, Sevastabol, U.K played its part, but at Inkerman Britain were decisive...
Woodlander65 1 year ago
@Woodlander65
what ??!!
LOL
a guy, a raostbeef like you, perfect mind roastbeef is a nice example for me :-)
More guys like you will write their perfidious and untrue propaganda on History more guys like me wil have an examples of those we say to show (to the not-roastbeef-minds of course thus the majority of guys here ^^) :-)
thus please continue, you work for me :-)
cumbas 1 year ago
See what i mean, dumbass Frog twat.
You kill History thats all you do and will continue to do, not your fault though, your born into it, its like your a mutant from birth on your teachings of Militery History.
Woodlander65 1 year ago
@cumbas the gutless piece of merde that has not the minerals to put a legitimate opposing view on his thread.
Typical frog yellow belly.
Woodlander65 1 year ago
@Woodlander65
La seule merde que je vois et qui en est plein, c'est ton pauvre "esprit" salit et aveugle petit roastbeef :-)
cumbas 1 year ago
@cumbas
...So you see a perfect example of your ancient blind hatred of the so called bitter and untrue French Propaganda always stirring up mischief on Youtube, and to believe from the cradle that you are the only nation on gods earth that can fight when required, yes France had its victory's and were contributing more than everyone else, but at day's end the Crimean War was a draw, the treaty in paris afterward meant little to anyone.
It is also true fact in this war.
Woodlander65 1 year ago
@Woodlander65
"yes France had its victory's"
I'm glad to see you wrote this, man. :-)
" and were contributing more than everyone else"
Well, if you say so.
Briselance 1 year ago
@cumbas You miss the point of this film.
peterdcarter1 1 year ago
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2a)
BUT it was pratically the only great action of the Brit Army during this war...
The Crimee’s War is an important war in the History
It mark the 1st Modern War by the use for the first time of modern weapons and much more fatal than in the past : Automatic guns, machins-guns, explosive balls drawn by the “canons”, etc..
In this time again like in the time of the Napoleonic age, the only true force of the UK especially in front of the others big European powers was its Navy
cumbas 1 year ago
I thought Errol Flynn changed the orders that made the Light Brigade charge?
norb1937 1 year ago
Смерть западным колониальным козлам.
maximatort 1 year ago
Lord Raglan gets a bad rap in history, I think. He was a good officer in his youth, but the command of a whole army, at that age, was simply beyond him. Poor old boy.
somedude221 1 year ago
encore une guerre que l'on a gagné pour les anglais
92rabzouzjihad 1 year ago
I laugh at all of you trying to learn history from a movie. Why not try picking up a few history books written by those who researched BOTH sides. Instead of a fantastical story, embelished to increase its entertainment value and make money. Those of you who watch a movie and then think they now know accurate history are laughable.
onegemini77 1 year ago
@onegemini77
Actually I'm often surprised at how much movies get right, when you consider how badly it could go. Check out George Maconald Fraser's 'A Hollywood History of the World', which examines how and where the movies get history right and wrong.
2210ethan 1 year ago
@2210ethan Oh I am sure that movies do get things right as well. I laugh at those who ONLY use movies as a basis for learning history though. That was my point. Even when Hollywood gets history right though, they usually still embelish it in some fashion.
onegemini77 1 year ago
@onegemini77
Yes, I'm with you there.
2210ethan 1 year ago
@onegemini77 see you in afghanistan then eh...brown bottle
hanghang71 1 year ago
At 9:26 the Russian officer commands 'Огня!' whereas actually Russian command to start shooting is 'Пли!' 'Огня' sounds like if he needed fire to light up a cigarette. :)
laplaceua 1 year ago 2
@laplaceua: OTHR!!!! NNH!!!
akosigundam 1 year ago
@laplaceua
Either way it's not right! Ognya or 'Огня' is translated into fire but in past tense. The right concept would be Ogon or Огонь!
RodinaZovet 1 year ago
@RodinaZovet Для залпа батарее команда именно 'Пли'. Хотя для открытия беглого огня таки 'Огонь', пожалуй.
laplaceua 1 year ago
I just read about this a few days ago and I couldn't believe it!
jakxcombat 1 year ago
Cardigan was pompous fool! It is doubtful that he even completed the charge himself! He lived in luxury on a boat while his men died of disease and neglect! In truth the entire campaign was a shinning example of the British not being prepared for the task at hand.
HuasoPodrido 1 year ago
typical - lions led by donkeys .....
bhoyjack 1 year ago
In every war the British will be doing very well and then they screw it up by having a huge frontal assault and getting set back or losing. In world war two change frontal assault to parachuting far beyond supply lines... or St Nazaire
Tippet76 1 year ago
@Tippet76 So we like to die in glory sometimes. Leave us alone :( lol
grobo11 1 year ago
Table linen IS pretty.
skegpit 1 year ago
This film is one of the most exhilirating and educational films I have ever seen. It is extremely accurate and the characters are very well portrayed. I LOVE IT; Does anyone know where I can buy it
djjcuk 1 year ago
Lions led by Donkeys
steve1mufc 1 year ago 4
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I like this poem.
533Leonardo 1 year ago
I can't believe he said that line, "It will be a sad day when the British Army is led by officers who know what they are doing" My god how did they ever get an empire???
MegaWolfgang 1 year ago
@MegaWolfgang Discipline, hubris and discipline. The British figured out what the Romans knew. A disciplined, steadfast army will win 9 times out of 10.
imaginosss 1 year ago 18
@imaginosss omg
stupid britts can make them heroes even with that
those all morons were shot by russians thinking britts are clowns
thats the true history
MrBumbooo 1 year ago
@MrBumbooo You are an idiot. Was this a tactical blunder by Britain? YES. Was roughly 600 cavalry soldiers lost do to the confusion in their messaging relay? YES. Does that diminish the heroism of the individual soldier following orders? NO. You twit, every soldier is heroic, no matter what side he fights for. It is unfortunate that incompetent commanders are usually the ones claiming all the heroism, when it is the individual soldier that is spilling their blood.
onegemini77 1 year ago
@onegemini77 Yes you are correct. And when you consider that they were flanked on 3 sides by copious amounts of Russian artillery it is a miracle of skill and bravery that this 600 men swept through 2 Russian defensive lines and actually CAPTURED the guns before they were driven back by Russian cavalry. On a more successful note was the Heavy Brigade which engaged a Russian cavalry force twice its size and won.
thebigJM92 1 year ago
The Prussians had a better army really. Starting back with Frederick.
refuckulate420 1 year ago
@imaginosss aye..sad the Brits didn't have some system of communication, i.e. bugler near the command position. Ragland's bugler could have signaled another bugler closer to the Brigade, who then in turn could have recalled Cardigan and company with an Emergency or Recall...
buuut they didn't =/ can you imagine sitting there, having to watch all this unfold in person and in living color...? scary and sad =/
alexp9999 1 year ago 4
@alexp9999
"can you imagine sitting there, having to watch all this unfold in person and in living color...?"
Oh no, I can't imagine it. No one can.
Unless one witnesses it for real. Only those who were there can imagine it.
Briselance 1 year ago
@alexp9999 Its a bit like the Falklands..leaving all the troops on ship till it gets a bomb...it still happens ..and still will in the future...Sad
justabrit 1 year ago
@imaginosss Don't forget guns.
sqccccccccc 1 year ago
@imaginosss Like in this movie?XD
ImperialGuard9001 1 year ago
@imaginosss Right on. Discipline...but more than that. Like the Romans, the Brits suffered defeat (no army wins Every battle any more than a football or baseball team)..but Learning from that defeat and evolving.
slideharp1 1 year ago
@slideharp1 Precisely. No army wins every battle. The Roman military machine was probably the most efficient and effective for its time period in world history. But even they suffered many serious reverses in their heyday.
thebigJM92 1 year ago
@thebigJM92 umm....Alexander the Great won every battle :)
Dogmeat1950 1 year ago
@Dogmeat1950 He was defeated and driven out of India.... It all depends on the tactical/strategic genius of wach individual commander. Alexander went power crazy which affected his strategic good sense.
thebigJM92 1 year ago
@thebigJM92 he never lost a battle, Alexander was never defeated. would you like to make something else up he took 50,000 men and took over the known world. he won all his battles in Indian he left India because his men wanted to go back home.
Dogmeat1950 1 year ago
@Dogmeat1950 Alexander's campaign in India was very similar to Napoleon's campaign in Russia. They both of them never lost a battle themselves (they were still tactically brilliant) but their power had made them mad and take on something that was way too big for them, strategically insane. Alexander's men wanted to go home because in India he blundered them into a hellhole of pain in which they were savagely mauled.
thebigJM92 1 year ago
@Dogmeat1950 I am NOT a critic of Alexander the Great. I believe he deserves his title and he is quite possibly the greatest general in history. But to suggest that he did not make military mistakes culminating in strategic defeat is wrong. Wellington made those types of mistake too.
thebigJM92 1 year ago
@thebigJM92 you did not just compare Alexander to Wellington lol.
Dogmeat1950 1 year ago
@Dogmeat1950 I compared him to Napoleon and Wellington. I shall compare him to Hannibal too if you would like? Julius Caesar?
thebigJM92 1 year ago
@Dogmeat1950 Alexander's father Philip gifted Alexander the best army in the world and a stronger power base than any Macedonian or Greek before him. Much of his success can be attributed to his otherwise flawed father.
thebigJM92 1 year ago
@thebigJM92 That's right. Philip Of Macedon was the man who actually Built the Macedonian Army into a force that was previously derided by the Athenians/Spartans who considered Macedonia to be an 'upstart' province. He could've done greater things had he not been murdered. This, of course, takes nothing away from the achievements of Alexander - The Great.
slideharp1 1 year ago
@slideharp1 Indeed, a good foundation for a truly great career.
thebigJM92 1 year ago
@MegaWolfgang Years of sex to breed enough soldiers to take over the globe. Plus we were quite cunning and tricked people in to giving us their land.
grobo11 1 year ago
Absolutely stupid film,
It is too much chatter of modern type
AHRZAMANBALASY 1 year ago
Half a league, half a league,
Half a league onward,
All in the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
"Forward, the Light Brigade!
"Charge for the guns!" he said:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
canmoore 1 year ago 3
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fastlada 1 year ago
"Forward, the Light Brigade!"
Was there a man dismay'd?
Not tho' the soldier knew
Someone had blunder'd:
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
canmoore 1 year ago 2
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canmoore 1 year ago
When can their glory fade?
O the wild charge they made!
All the world wondered.
Honor the charge they made,
Honor the Light Brigade,
Noble six hundred.
canmoore 1 year ago
who knows the poem of this
shanondor 1 year ago
was this the film with gungadin
shanondor 1 year ago
And a French general commented: "Magnificent! But, it's not war."
mbabist01 1 year ago
Yes the French Marshal said, "It is magnificent, but it is not war. It is madness." The French is on my channel, i will go and get it.
thebigJM92 1 year ago
@thebigJM92 I did not know the rest of what the Marshal Bosquet said. Thank you for the correction!
mbabist01 1 year ago
Here it is,
The futility of the action and its reckless bravery prompted the French Marshal Pierre Bosquet to state "C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre." ("It is magnificent, but it is not war.") He continued, in a rarely quoted phrase: "C'est de la folie" ("it is madness.")
Folly and madness it may have been, but by god no-one can say that those men werent the bravest of the brave.
thebigJM92 1 year ago
Sir i totally believe that statement and ito say anything less is a folly.
jimjam69 1 year ago
@jimjam69 Hear hear!
thebigJM92 1 year ago
@jimjam69 Hear hear!
thebigJM92 1 year ago
My pleasure, glad to be of help!
thebigJM92 1 year ago
lol was war fought this totaly retarted way ?
paradox10000 1 year ago
@paradox10000
It took more skill back then; more than simply pressing a button.
azzameen 1 year ago
Raglan, Lucan and Cardigan all loathed each other. None was a decent commander. Cardigan had some guts at least. Nolan was experienced but was deemed to have not enough class to be a cavalry officer. Somehow I get the feeling from written testimonies published since that not one of the survivors had any regrets about their place in history. They were professional soldiers and accepted death as an occupational hazard.
Snedger 2 years ago
ours is not to reason why, but to do or die.
prodos8 2 years ago
"Forward, the Light Brigade!"
kombatzero 2 years ago
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What a pretty movie full of pretty actors set in a pretty time period.
csrtitus 2 years ago
Ph.D- people who stand before a board and kiss peoples asses to get a piece of paper that makes you an educated twat with no common sense
=]
stringerboi 2 years ago 2
@stringerboi Yeah, it's better to be a bus driver, right?
What bus do you drive?
Heightofhate 2 years ago
@Heightofhate
i dont drive a bus i have my own truck i bought with my own money =]
concept of an insult is to say something thats humiliating but true so obviously you failed miserably.
stringerboi 2 years ago 7
You don't drive a bus, you drive a truck - what a big difference, indeed!
So, then what truck do you drive?
You're right - the concept of an insult is to say something that is humiliating but true.
It's true that you are a truck driver.
What a humiliation!...
Heightofhate 2 years ago
...i drive a dodge 4x4 truck- that ISNT a humiliation im a proud owner of an AMERICAN TRUCK YOU STUPID CUNT!
WOW YOUR A MORON.
stringerboi 2 years ago
I know that Americans are more proud of having a truck than of having an academic degrees.
Well, maybe that's because they usually have none.
You know, I've met almost illiterate Egyptians who worked as truck drivers. They also were very proud of themselves and mocked at the Egyptians who worked as tourist guides telling the tourists the history of Ancient Egypt.
The same is with you, proud truck driver.
Heightofhate 2 years ago
To me, a truck driver is more valuable than a thousand of pseudo intellectuals like you. And wipe your spit off your face, you're disgusting.
Pseudologic 1 year ago
To nazis like you truck drivers are better than intellectuals, it's true.
Nazis hate intellectuals and for that reason call them all "pseudo" intellectuals.
They just hate to admit someone is educated here.
Nazis like you prefer cavemen - because they are cavemen themselves.
That's why intellectuals make them so angry, you loser )))
Heightofhate 1 year ago
And for the record RETARD society depends on truck drivers to deliver supplies like groceries and food to supermarkets. without them you wouldnt be able to shop for anything you IDIOTIC FUCKER
stringerboi 2 years ago 2
Society also depends on road sweepers and other janitors, sewage pipe cleaners, delibery-boys etc.
But I've met no-one dreaming to become a road sweeper.
The same is with truck drivers.
But in fact the society depends on much more on those who invent and build trucks and sewage systems. These are people with academic degrees.
And such retards as you just follow the orders given.
But you want to be important. That's why you're on a page where the Crimean War is discussed.
Go read books.
Heightofhate 2 years ago
bring back the romanovs!
KWilhelmII 2 years ago
Lol @ 5:02 when he raises his eyebrows, how could he not see that formation of russian troops just milling around haha what incompetence
8peregrint8 2 years ago
the point is Nolan is pointing to the wrong valley and the wrong group of Russians. Lucan and Cardigan are surprised, not because they hadn't seen them, but because attacking this group head on would be suicidal
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