pete townshend is just amazin...is one of the best showmans in the history of rock for me the best....a really great songriter and the best rhythim guitarrist period.....perhaps best guitarists had good leaders ... but you've heard their live performances are just simply amazing .. sparks, water, see me feel me, i cannot expalined ... pete is not like the typical guitar playing almost always the same thing had a way of playing so unique
See me, feel me from Woodstock in my opinon, but anything from the "coverall" days. He's just wild then, sounds like a touch of Hendrix with the overdrivene amps, and feedback. You should include his performance on the "Rock and Roll Circus" event presented by the Stones.
Slash wouldn't be here without Pete. Slash might be able to do things with his fingers that Pete can't; but Pete did FAR more with his heart than Slash will ever do.
I don't agree with some of scartissue94's comments....Pete Townshend is a GREAT guitarist, but he is more of a rhythm player than a lead player IMO....Slash is in a different league to Pete, Slash is an incredible lead guitarist...well...when he was with Guns n'' Roses he was AMAZING, but since going solo he's not so great. If Slash is overrated for anything, its his contribution to music after his work with Velvet revolver IMO. Pete is definitely overrated for his lead guitar playing....
Pete is so absolutely comfortable with his guitar. It is an extension of his emotions. As such, he can make it do exactly what he wants it to do. He was bending the will of his guitar in 1965 in ways people hadn't thought possible. He changed the way people thought of the instrument and the people who played it. Small wonder he freaked the hell out of people over 40 back in 1965!
its annoying when most people say that angus young basically made the gibson sg famous because pete used it so much earlier than he did. he only stopped using it when they stopped making it.
Pete was/is a brilliant guitarist, he just goes overlooked because of the band he was in and the style they played. Moon and Entwhistle played drums/bass as if THEY were lead guitarists, and Pete simply played in perfect harmony with them (which is NOT easy to do). In some sense, you could call him the "best rhythm guitarist ever", but he was much more than that as well.
Good job, this looked like it took some work, but what about "Naked Eye" "Young Man Blues" "Won't Get Fooled Again?" Actually, they were all great, I really enjoyed your vid!
soloing wise i don't think he's thatt great, im not saying he's bad he's a great songwriter don't get me wrong but just purely for soloing i'm not a fan
Thanks for the video. Pete has become an even more amazing player since the passing of John, who basically played lead on his base while Pete threw in those great power chords.
Pete's various efforts on the guitar, espesialy on stage, has mainly been pointed against musical drama rather than making soloimpressions. The Who was never that kind of a band. And that's what makes them so unik; the ability to give performances has one big hole musical piece of art. Go listen to Sparks / Amazing Journey from the 2006/2007 conserts! (The Encore-series). I have never heard Pete better.
@spektakkel I agree, I think he really matured into something at that point in 06/07 that made his riffs so insanely magical. Somewhat of a Pete down back on earth and riffin out to the world like no other.
@espdemon the songs are not about solos, solo is just the way to show off, i know a lot of quys that can play solo very god, but they can't put together a few simple chords, pete townshend is one of the best rock guitarists ever and that is partly because his songs are not "killed" with bunch of solos like everybody does these days. everybody can play solo guitar. but to have rythm in your'e ears and to play rythm guitar, that requires quantity of knowledge. i'm sory for my english.
@tramakul Hi! You hit the spot! Pete Townhend's mind is a creative mixture of drama and intelligense. As an multiartistic creative force he will allways search towards what ever point he stribes. And he don't think in "solo's". That is really redicilus, for he's part. He is a COMPOSER. One of the finest of modern music. (I'm just waiting for the world to recognise that). Thank you for your comment, friend. Spektakkel.
IMHO Pete was no solo giant by any means. Maybe at a point in time `67-`70 he felt he had to go up against Jimi Hendeix. No competition there obviously. However; Pete was an absolutely brilliant composer w/ great rhythmn & a lot of cool chords to boot. He was also brilliant working in the studio. Overall one of the best creative music artists of the 60's-70's rock era. With that said, I can't help but wonder if he's taken a break from doing research on the internet (If ya know what I mean).
IMHO Pete was no solo giant by any means. Maybe at a point in time `67-`70 he felt he had to go up against Jimi Hendeix. No competition there obviously. However; Pete was an absolutely brilliant composer w/ great rhythmn & a lot of cool chords to boot. He was also brilliant working in the studio. Overall one of the best creative music artists of the 60's-70's rock era. With that said, I can't help but wonder if he's taken a break from doing research on the internet (If ya know what I mean).
The guy was not a virtuoso, lead guitar, soloist...or even close to it when he did solo.
But he is by far & large "one of the best creative musicians of the 60's & 70's", and he is a "brilliant composer", and a truly fantastic rhythm guitarist.
But yeah - despite what all the biased superfans claim - he's not a fucking good lead guitarist.
pete is a great guitar player i cant say he is the best but he is in the top 3. he is the best composer of rock and roll music ever and the best on stage guitar player.
A lot of people play guitar & I can easily name 50 people off the top of my head that are better than him. He's not a great guitarist...great guitarists are well rounded...Pete is not.
He is, however...one of the best composers, songwriters, and performers ever.
Jeff Beck can't write a song for the life of him...and Jimmy Page may have had trouble being "original"...but they are both fucking light years ahead of Pete Townshend in regards to playing the guitar.
@asmorgan88 Page and Beck are yardbird rejects that could never fill claptons shoes. the who are one of the greatest bands of all time and bonham and plant can suck a hard one cause zeppelin blows harder than freddie mercury.
Well, if you think Clapton is a good guitarist...or, even worse - better than Beck or Page, then I really have nothing to say...other than Clapton fucking sucks and can't play anything aside from the blues. For the past 40 tears, no matter what band he's in - he plays the same shit.
The Who are one of the bests ever, & yeah, fuck Plant, Bonham & JPJ...they fucking suck compared to what The Who offered in those departments...but, Zeppelin is clearly the better band.
@asmorgan88 well if u think Cream and Derek and the Dominoes suck u are dumb Beck and Page are just yardbird bitches that could never fill claptons shoes
@asmorgan88 ya well clapton quit when they turned in to the Beatles wannabes and started singing gay songs clapton is a blues man and back to pete townsend is better than u will EVER be if u know how to play guitar show everyone how good u are if u dont shut up. what ever zeppelin sucks jeff beck suck jimmy paige sucks and u suck
Yep - Clapton left because they were getting too "poppy".
I bet even YOU are a better guitarist than Townshend, because I know I am!
What Pete did with the guitar was great - he's a great rhythm guy, & one of the only people to properly use distortion & feedback...but he wasn't well rounded.
Kyle Korver is a hell of a 3 point shooter, but sucks at everything else - therefore he's not a good basketball player...same when considering who's what with guitar. Pete's not great.
@asmorgan88 well i think he is great so if u wana talk shit about him go to one of them gay homo chat rooms u like to visit with paige and beck and talk shit not a pete townsend video
I think it was Townshend who was caught with child porn...
Pete's a great rhythm guitarist, composer, songwriter, icon...he's the guitarist in one of my favorite bands...but he's not a good lead guitarist, that's all I'm saying. You know it too. In all the years I spent telling everyone that The Who were better than Zeppelin, I fucking knew that Jimmy Page was a fucking far better guitarist than Pete.
The Ramones are my favorite band & they fucking suck...who gives a shit?
Pete was no Alvin Lee or Rick Derringer, ( guitarists in that era ) BUT a great musician and composer. Pete definitely had moxy and was a first class showman. Very innovative for sure and he made a ton of money.
It's quite simple, really: Townsend is exactly as important as Hendrix, if not moreso. You can lineup a decade's worth of Donnington and nu-metal acts with their ridiculous shtick (and I love pure metal ... Sabbath, Metallica, etc.) and they won't equal the sheer attack of Pete's onslaught. And you certainly aren't likely to see them performing as well at Pete's age. And exactly none of them have had or will have the overall impact on rock music. How many have copped Townsend's amp setup alone?
@geoffgio Hendrix is way better then townsend. pete just lived longer to change into a new era of music. In fact it was eric and pete who said "Jimi Hendrix is going to put us out of business"
russ is obviosly an ignorant piece of flotsam. probably 400 pounds of overfed flesh living at moms house eating twinkies and playing video games. no shortage of stupid asses out there in you tube comment land. eat your ham tina
@wrsawy1 another internet tough guy. I would say that to you if i saw you, just because im a young man doesnt mean im a pussy. we're talking about pete townsend not Jesus or the president. WTF? anyway ill add this too i way 250 and i do live with mom and dad. I still dont see how that has anything to do with pete townsend being the most overrated guitarist in the world! Hes lame, hes OLD! I want to start seeing some of the bands i listen to , play the superbowl.
@bigrussthefusss - if you think you can improvise a solo like any of these, then you're very welcome to go ahead, but if otherwise then why don't you just shut the hell up
@SamthePetrolhead ummm yeah i can definetly improvise a solo way better then old pete here sooo yeah! My point which i guess is getting alittle lost in all this dumb youtube tough guy shit is, let some new bands through. Why is roger daltrey and pete townsend still performing live. they dont need to, they look ridiculous, sounded like crap (superbowl) and should quit with dignity
@SamthePetrolhead (continued) I enjoy the whos music, i just dont think pete is a great guitar player, he "was" a decent songwriter, when he had entwistle and moon to help him along, but his solo shit was pretty lame, and he is a terrible singer. I just want to see some of the bands i like playing the superbowl
@wrsawy1 eat my shit, he needs to retire, cuz that superbowl performance sucked ass, him and daltrey looked ridiculous up there, and sounded terrible!!! why dont they just move on and let some new rock bands play! Its always the old generation got to have their way! You all ruined it for us! And believe me there are plenty of bands that would love that chance, that arent simple radio cock rock. "Hope i die before i get old!!" doesnt sound like the real deal to me, sounds like a poser!
Move on and let some new rock bands play? Have you lost your mind junior? you young punks need to learn some respect, if not for guys like the Who your generation would be arguing over who's better Frankie Yankovich and his Polka Kings or Lawence Welk...so show some respect junior or keep your mouth shut!!
@greenmean1 sorry i think its quite lame to see a 70 year old man talking about teenage wasteland, and trying to hold his bowel movements while breaking his arm from attempting his classic windmill. I have shown pete respect, for 46 years. Yeah thats right 46 years these guys have been playing the same old songs. i want some new bands you harsh old bird!
I love the who. Petes power chords and soloing style work well with John, Keith, and Roger. But I wonder what it would sound like if they had someone like Jeff Beck playing guitar.
@scartissue94 Slash over rated? what are you nuts?! He and Izzy wrote some of the best tunes around! how dare you put lady gaga and slash in the same catagory
Yes, but don't you notice how everytime a rapper feels like there should be a guitar bit, they hire Slash? Like with Will.I. Am covering 'My Generation'.
@scartissue94 Indeed. While Pete Townshend is widely regarded as a great rock guitarist, he's still without question one of the most underrated rock guitarists of his generation. He REVOLUTIONIZED 1960s rock guitar, even before Jimi Hendrix and Jimmy Page. Just listen to "ANYWAY, ANYHOW, ANYWHERE", which came out in 1965, before the Jimi Hendrix Experience and Led Zeppelin were even formed! Pete was, and still is, AWESOME! And, in his prime, what a sight he was live!
@scartissue94 Overrated would John Frusciante not Slash. Incredibly overrated. What does his contribution as a guitarist amount to? Disfiguring his self with drugs? What has he done that even begins to compare to somebody like Pete Townshend? Did he develop anything like 100 watt stacks? Windmills? Acrobatic stage performing? Don't tell me that Slash isn't one of the most influential guitarists of his era. You don't have to be r n' r to appreciate how good he is. He deserves his status.
Cool video thanks! I think Pete Townshend is a very good guitar player, personally I find him a little noisy or untidy, like he doesn't mind sounding good or clean (but that's his style) and overrated too... I'm a huge fan off classic rock and The Who are nearly in the top of my list, but talking about guitar players, i prefer all the way Brian May, Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page, David Gilmour or Steve Hackett...
He IS very untidy & doesn't mind if he sounds "good" or not. THAT is why he's a great guitarist...not because he's a good soloist or technician like some of the guys you listed. He's good because he can get so much out of so little.
Pete's a great guitarist, and he's done a lot for the evolution of it as instrument and for rock & roll overall...but he shouldn't be given credit where it isn't due...and he doesn't deserve to be considered a great lead guitarist.
That 69-70 tour was something to see. Phenomenal! With Pete in the white jump suit and John in the Skeleton outfit. The best concert is on a DVD called 'The Who @ The Isle Of Wight 1970'. Pete broke barriers for many regions of rock. Rock is a bowl of soup with many seasonings in it. Rock & Roll wouldn't have the flavor it has overall if The Who didn't exist. Magnificent!
Watch my vids and then you won't be able to say that. In fact people who say that Pete isn't great are more biased than those who say he is b/c they know what it truly means to be a great guitar player and have heard a lot of The Who's live stuff.
What can I say about Pete? No one has ever put more feeling between the notes, as Pete Townshend has. No one has ever put more rock rhythm into rock&roll, as Pete Townshend has." Long live Rock!"
no care about who is best soloist, rocknroll is about rhythm and pete was good at it as well as Keith Richards, these two are the leading rock guitarists
dude, he played lead his whole carear. the reason he isnt recognized with the greats is that he almost never played his solos on studio albums, and until whos next if you listen to the abums it sounds like an acoustic. but live he rivalled clapton and hendrix. while not as good as clapton or hendrix, he is sti;; inthe top five. this vid is good,but does him no justice. listen to live at leeds,woodstock and isle of wight, truly genius
Nothing wrong with that at all...but The Who are some of the easiest shit to play on guitar. The Who weren't about the guitar anyways...
People should like Townshend for who he is & what he did, and not like him for something he wasn't...and he wasn't a lead guitarist. I don't care what you say.
Well I don't care what you say either. People should appreciate him for what he is and HE IS a great lead guitarist. I don't care how easy it is to play, it's best expression/emotion not technicality.
by Pete's own admission, he is not a particularly good lead guitarist. This is why he started the windmilling and "pounding stages like a clown" -- to distract from his lack of lead-playing ability (again, his words, not mine).
@mrtamberineman123 You are 100% accurate. The Who are my favorite group and I love Pete but he has never been known as a great guitar soloist. The first video rhis guy put together is laughable. That Who Are You solo is so ordinary. His best work was on Live At Leeds and the late to early 1970s. There are SO many guitarists that are MUCH MUCH better. I laugh at the people who think he is Clapton, Page or Beck.
The thing about Pete is he may not be known for his great soloing but, he along with Keith Richards are probably the best rhythm guitarist ever, I mean just listen to any of the Who's or Stone's sides and focus on the rhythm .DEVASTATING!
to me this isnt really about whether or not he's a lead guitarist. the fact is that what he plays works. sometimes (a lot of the time) the best solos that bring out emotion in people arent technically challenging solos with long runs of note after note after note. (see pete's solo in young man blues from live at the isle of wight.) maybe he wasnt technically at the level of some other guys, and not a great "lead" guitarist, but it sure as hell worked for the sound the who were going for.
To answer that, even tho Phillips denied it in an interview I think that is true, however I'm inferring that Pete did this in like 1966 or so (the websites I looked at didn't specify as to the time Pete asked this) so this was the time period where Pete didn't play much, if any lead, as he was still developing. And yes, Pete didn't have confidence in his playing, but as I said before Keith said he wasn't great drummer.
Point being, just b/c Pete didn't think he was very good doesn't mean he isn't. Every guitarist always wishes they could play like somebody for example when Hendrix was asked how it felt to be the best guitarist ever he said "Go ask Neil Young"
Neil Young isn't a good guitarist. Come on now. I think you're more knowledgeable than that! Listen to ANYTHING from his entire catalog & you'll conclude that he's not a great.
And, I'm a guitarist, yet I don't strive to play like anybody else.
Personal style is lacking in rock & roll, and Townshend has been one of the only original rock guitarists in history.
i dont understand what anyone is arguing about. cant you just appreciate the brilliance of the who and Pete? did you go to this video to argue or watch/listen??
Pete's solos have gotten technically much better as he's gotten older. However, if anyone doubts how great he is/was playing lead, listen to of the expanded edition of Live at Leeds on a pair of headphones. Play it loud!
OH man...why does everyone think Live at Leeds is some great guitar work?! It's really NOT. Some great rhythm guitar...but not such great lead playing!!!
I LOVE Pete's playing, the power, everything...
But he's fucking NOT a good lead guitarist.
Yeah, Trajan1967, I'd hope, after 40 years that his playing improves...but it's not anywhere near being on the same level playing as Beck, Page, Clapton, Hendrix...his solos in 2008 (when I last saw them) are still not as good as Beck's solos in '66
You sound like a kid. I don't think you were old enough to attend a concert in 2000!!!
I love The Who, more than you can imagine, but never would I say that Townshend is a good lead guitarist. His solos are sometimes effective, but they aren't "good"!
You know when all you do say things like HE SUCKS it makes you sound more like a kid than me. and just for the record, i was old enough to attend a concert in 2000.
"The guitarist in that band isn't nearly as influential as Pete".
You obviously have no idea, nor did you look into who the guitarist was on that album.
It's Jimmy Page, he's on that entire album...
Since you won't allow myself, or any of my friends to comment on your page, I had to tell you here, that you sound ignorant as fuck making the claims that you do about Townshend.
IT'S JIMMY PAGE PLAYING THE GUITAR FOR LES FLEUR DE LYS AND THEIR COVER OF A WHO SONG.
I did look into who that guitarist was, and I sent you the link- nowhere did it say Page played lead on that album, all it said was that he was the PRODUCER.
Even if it really is Page doesn't matter they're both influential guitarists and the solo doesn't change my opinion of Pete anyway. And all I have to say is that if I sound ignorant to you then no wonder you're calling me a jackass.
Jimmy Page played lead guitar on Les Fleur De Lys' studio album. He also produced it.
Let's not forget that he played on nearly every British record, in every genre, so to say that it isn't him (when it fucking is), is indeed ignorant, jackass.
The point being, other guitarists can play Who songs better than Pete.
You were offended that I didn't like Townshend's lead playing. You didn't like the reasoning I gave, you couldn't come to grips with the fact their guitar work isn't a focus of the group, you were upset that others were agreeing with me (you blocked them too I'm told!)...
Expect people to have opinions, and if you're going to upload a video...EXPECT COMMENTS - especially if you're uploading music videos...and are making claims that Townshend is a good lead guitarist.
Ok I'm just gonna give my final thoughts on this and then I'm done arguing w/ you, b/c it's quite clear to me that you don't accept other people's opinions very well. For the record I didn't block all your friends. And your so-called "reasoning" was that you claimed to be "older" than me that I must be wrong and that this solo sucked and what not, and even if you said it didn't suck, you said it didn't compare to the greats- claims no vaguer than any I've made.
What I mean is- you said the Heaven and Hell didn't compare to the greats. You never said how or why it doesn't. I asked you why Pete's solos suck, you even admitted you couldn't give a reason. And I know that guitar work isn't the main focus of the group, but that doesn't mean the guitarist can't be great- the bass wasn't the focus of LZ (JPJ played mulitple instruments) and yet JPJ is recognized as a great bass player.
Stubborn - you're stubborn by not letting your guard down about Townshend. Yeah, he's influential, yeah he's a great songwriter, yeah he's a rock icon...but he's not a guitarist. He may have played guitar in The Who...but he's not a guitarist...he's not articulate, or technical...he just blasts out riffs and chords, makes noise, and has poor lead ability.
Ignorant - you're ignorant thinking that Townshend is a force of nature that inspires all forms
Of course I'm not gonna let my guard down, and the same can be said for you. And what you clearly don't understand about solos is that when a guitarist solos he/she has to let it flow freely- they have to let the song speak to them. It can't be practiced, like playing scales fast which can be. And to me, Pete's emotional thoughtful improvisation flows freely and he lets the song speak to him. Sloppy yes but so are Page and Hendrix. And I misspoke by all forms I meant lots of rock.
You're a stubborn, ignorant prick by claiming that the guitarist on the "Circles" track by Les Fleur De Lys isn't nearly as good or influential as Pete...when that guitarist was Jimmy Page...
You're a stubborn, ignorant prick for thinking Neil Young & Angus Young are good lead guitarists.
You're a stubborn, ignorant prick for thinking if people are influenced by something, that it must be the best.
You're a stubborn, ignorant prick for thinking Townshend is a good lead guitarist.
Ok well for starters I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that that is indeed Page playing lead, but to justify me saying that I did as much research as I could to see if that was Page, and no site could give me a clear answer. And it doesn't matter, Page and Pete both have better solos than that. And for all the reasons you stated for saying I'm an ignorant prick, I could say you're an ignorant prick for saying all those things.
And for the record I never said that if people are influenced by something it must be the best. Now, hbu- whenever watch some Pete vids where he pulls off a sick solo I always see you comment w/ the same damn thing "this sucks". I must ask- why do you watch all these Pete vids if you don't like him? It seems like you're the type of person who prefers technical wankery in a solo- which is fine, I can't change that about you.
But what does piss me off is the fact that you go around acting like your opinion is right and no one elses, w/ things like calling people like me "jerks" and "naive little fucks". And you and your friends kept relentlessly badgering me about it, and some of the argument was about maturity for god's sake. so that's why I blocked you and some of your friends, and that's why I'm done arguing w/ you, b/c you and I both know that you're not gonna change your opinion.
So then you know what, go watch your technical wankery shit. Don't bother responding, you'll just waste your time. I'll respect your opinion if you respect mine, I just want to make sure people actually see Pete's best before they come up w/ a final opinion- that's why I get pissed when people say he's bad after watching this vid, b/c this vid isn't nearly his best, and even some of mine aren't either. You and I have different opinions on what makes a guitarist great, and that's the way it is.
Slash wishes he was pete townshend
rubetube2009 4 days ago
men pete is amazing.....he have much better solos
juan13579run 1 month ago
pete townshend is just amazin...is one of the best showmans in the history of rock for me the best....a really great songriter and the best rhythim guitarrist period.....perhaps best guitarists had good leaders ... but you've heard their live performances are just simply amazing .. sparks, water, see me feel me, i cannot expalined ... pete is not like the typical guitar playing almost always the same thing had a way of playing so unique
juan13579run 3 months ago
Pete Townshend IS God!!
merseywhogirl 3 months ago
See me, feel me from Woodstock in my opinon, but anything from the "coverall" days. He's just wild then, sounds like a touch of Hendrix with the overdrivene amps, and feedback. You should include his performance on the "Rock and Roll Circus" event presented by the Stones.
fazole 3 months ago
@fazole because of pete hendrix used feedback and that kind of shit...
so it on the documentary about the who.
pete influenced so much to rock and roll and ppl just dont know.
ZelenaBananaa 1 month ago
Slash wouldn't be here without Pete. Slash might be able to do things with his fingers that Pete can't; but Pete did FAR more with his heart than Slash will ever do.
michael72986 3 months ago
I don't agree with some of scartissue94's comments....Pete Townshend is a GREAT guitarist, but he is more of a rhythm player than a lead player IMO....Slash is in a different league to Pete, Slash is an incredible lead guitarist...well...when he was with Guns n'' Roses he was AMAZING, but since going solo he's not so great. If Slash is overrated for anything, its his contribution to music after his work with Velvet revolver IMO. Pete is definitely overrated for his lead guitar playing....
TheDarkyouth28 3 months ago
His style reminds me of his vocal style, if that makes sense
mcblahflooper94 3 months ago
townshend and hendrix the legends of the 60
juan13579run 4 months ago
thum up if you when pete does the tornado when he play
juan13579run 4 months ago
pete townshend is the best guitarist ever. the who are the best band ever.
shawnknuijt1 6 months ago 2
No electricity ? Well just use Pete's windmills !
jrushmen 7 months ago
HAPPY BIRTHDAY PETE!!! YOU RAWK!! \M/\M/
19 MAY 1945
LONG LIVE ROCK!!!
TrickyTolles64 8 months ago
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mg94133 8 months ago
Pete is so absolutely comfortable with his guitar. It is an extension of his emotions. As such, he can make it do exactly what he wants it to do. He was bending the will of his guitar in 1965 in ways people hadn't thought possible. He changed the way people thought of the instrument and the people who played it. Small wonder he freaked the hell out of people over 40 back in 1965!
mg94133 8 months ago 2
I have heard way better live Pete Townshend solo's.Check my Channel People.
1969thewho 8 months ago
sparks at 45 seconds... is that from woodstock?
kanzosupremo 8 months ago
@kanzosupremo
Yeah.
5jerry1 7 months ago
great guitarist..but a fucking pathetic jealous pissed off human being.
mulholland1985 9 months ago
see me feel me continues to make me jizz
abt7217tc 10 months ago
awesome video,great footage
pjsbulldog67 10 months ago
its annoying when most people say that angus young basically made the gibson sg famous because pete used it so much earlier than he did. he only stopped using it when they stopped making it.
beatlesboy48 10 months ago
Pete was/is a brilliant guitarist, he just goes overlooked because of the band he was in and the style they played. Moon and Entwhistle played drums/bass as if THEY were lead guitarists, and Pete simply played in perfect harmony with them (which is NOT easy to do). In some sense, you could call him the "best rhythm guitarist ever", but he was much more than that as well.
bwc3821 11 months ago
@bwc3821 Exactly. He didn't lead the songs, he was a one-man rhythm section. He provided the foundation for everyone else to go nuts.
p00lman 11 months ago
Good job, this looked like it took some work, but what about "Naked Eye" "Young Man Blues" "Won't Get Fooled Again?" Actually, they were all great, I really enjoyed your vid!
PinkAngel360 1 year ago
soloing wise i don't think he's thatt great, im not saying he's bad he's a great songwriter don't get me wrong but just purely for soloing i'm not a fan
persbol 1 year ago
Pete Townshend is incredible!! The woodstock See Me Feel Me is one of the greatest performances of all time.
Gnohm23 1 year ago 23
Pete Townshend is incredible!!
Gnohm23 1 year ago 7
When he hear early PETE realize how many have been influenced by him, and all the genres!
incredible. NO! InWHOable!
quakesraw 1 year ago
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When he hear early PETE realize how many have been influenced by him, and all the genres!
incredible.
quakesraw 1 year ago
When he hear early PETE realize how many have been influenced by him, and all the genres!
incredible. NO! InWHOable!
quakesraw 1 year ago
he wrote all of the who's music
all the separate instruments and everything
incredible person
claxy1337 1 year ago
he has some of the best riffs ive ever heard in my life!!
he is a Guitar God.
GrungeRocker1000 1 year ago
How can anyone even begin to think that Pete has no talent?
ShadowOfADoubt9 1 year ago
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ShadowOfADoubt9 1 year ago
Thanks for the video. Pete has become an even more amazing player since the passing of John, who basically played lead on his base while Pete threw in those great power chords.
whotwo 1 year ago
Pete's various efforts on the guitar, espesialy on stage, has mainly been pointed against musical drama rather than making soloimpressions. The Who was never that kind of a band. And that's what makes them so unik; the ability to give performances has one big hole musical piece of art. Go listen to Sparks / Amazing Journey from the 2006/2007 conserts! (The Encore-series). I have never heard Pete better.
spektakkel 1 year ago
@spektakkel I agree, I think he really matured into something at that point in 06/07 that made his riffs so insanely magical. Somewhat of a Pete down back on earth and riffin out to the world like no other.
quakesraw 1 year ago
I need the complete woodstock footage ..can u help me???...
ovelonse 1 year ago
Don't think about him being overrated. He's the best.
lin5311 1 year ago 3
Not even one solo on this video is even decent, they're not even solo's they're noise from a guy that can't and never could play solos, PERIOD.
espdemon 1 year ago
@espdemon
Fucking, right on.
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@espdemon the songs are not about solos, solo is just the way to show off, i know a lot of quys that can play solo very god, but they can't put together a few simple chords, pete townshend is one of the best rock guitarists ever and that is partly because his songs are not "killed" with bunch of solos like everybody does these days. everybody can play solo guitar. but to have rythm in your'e ears and to play rythm guitar, that requires quantity of knowledge. i'm sory for my english.
tramakul 1 year ago
@tramakul Hi! You hit the spot! Pete Townhend's mind is a creative mixture of drama and intelligense. As an multiartistic creative force he will allways search towards what ever point he stribes. And he don't think in "solo's". That is really redicilus, for he's part. He is a COMPOSER. One of the finest of modern music. (I'm just waiting for the world to recognise that). Thank you for your comment, friend. Spektakkel.
spektakkel 1 year ago 2
PETE KILLS IT !!!!
custom55 1 year ago
most original and generally tallentad guitarists of all time you can shuv your van halen and others up your arse !!
WEDNESBURY96 1 year ago
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IMHO Pete was no solo giant by any means. Maybe at a point in time `67-`70 he felt he had to go up against Jimi Hendeix. No competition there obviously. However; Pete was an absolutely brilliant composer w/ great rhythmn & a lot of cool chords to boot. He was also brilliant working in the studio. Overall one of the best creative music artists of the 60's-70's rock era. With that said, I can't help but wonder if he's taken a break from doing research on the internet (If ya know what I mean).
DonTerhune1200cc 1 year ago
IMHO Pete was no solo giant by any means. Maybe at a point in time `67-`70 he felt he had to go up against Jimi Hendeix. No competition there obviously. However; Pete was an absolutely brilliant composer w/ great rhythmn & a lot of cool chords to boot. He was also brilliant working in the studio. Overall one of the best creative music artists of the 60's-70's rock era. With that said, I can't help but wonder if he's taken a break from doing research on the internet (If ya know what I mean).
DonTerhune1200cc 1 year ago
@DonTerhune1200cc
HAHHAHAH - research!!! What an asshole!
Everything you said about Pete was spot on.
The guy was not a virtuoso, lead guitar, soloist...or even close to it when he did solo.
But he is by far & large "one of the best creative musicians of the 60's & 70's", and he is a "brilliant composer", and a truly fantastic rhythm guitarist.
But yeah - despite what all the biased superfans claim - he's not a fucking good lead guitarist.
asmorgan88 1 year ago
pete is a great guitar player i cant say he is the best but he is in the top 3. he is the best composer of rock and roll music ever and the best on stage guitar player.
bigcountrypicker 1 year ago
@bigcountrypicker
A lot of people play guitar & I can easily name 50 people off the top of my head that are better than him. He's not a great guitarist...great guitarists are well rounded...Pete is not.
He is, however...one of the best composers, songwriters, and performers ever.
Jeff Beck can't write a song for the life of him...and Jimmy Page may have had trouble being "original"...but they are both fucking light years ahead of Pete Townshend in regards to playing the guitar.
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@asmorgan88 well pete was ranked #50 by rollingstone magazine
bigcountrypicker 1 year ago
@bigcountrypicker
That doesn't mean anything.
Spin magazine voted The Ramones as the second best band in history...
Pete is a rhythm guitarist...a damn good one.
But he's not a great GUITARIST...great GUITARISTS are well rounded.
Pete Townshend is not well rounded.
Great songwriter, & composer, great icon - but that doesn't do anything for his guitar playing.
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@asmorgan88 Page and Beck are yardbird rejects that could never fill claptons shoes. the who are one of the greatest bands of all time and bonham and plant can suck a hard one cause zeppelin blows harder than freddie mercury.
ps CLAPTON IS GOD AND ALLMAN IS JESUS
bigcountrypicker 1 year ago
@bigcountrypicker
Well, if you think Clapton is a good guitarist...or, even worse - better than Beck or Page, then I really have nothing to say...other than Clapton fucking sucks and can't play anything aside from the blues. For the past 40 tears, no matter what band he's in - he plays the same shit.
The Who are one of the bests ever, & yeah, fuck Plant, Bonham & JPJ...they fucking suck compared to what The Who offered in those departments...but, Zeppelin is clearly the better band.
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@asmorgan88 well if u think Cream and Derek and the Dominoes suck u are dumb Beck and Page are just yardbird bitches that could never fill claptons shoes
bigcountrypicker 1 year ago
@bigcountrypicker
As far as I know, Zeppelin was far bigger than anything Clapton did.
Whatever, man.
...and, The Yardbirds hit their commercial & creative peak after Clapton left...for the record.
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@asmorgan88 ya well clapton quit when they turned in to the Beatles wannabes and started singing gay songs clapton is a blues man and back to pete townsend is better than u will EVER be if u know how to play guitar show everyone how good u are if u dont shut up. what ever zeppelin sucks jeff beck suck jimmy paige sucks and u suck
bigcountrypicker 1 year ago
@bigcountrypicker
Yep - Clapton left because they were getting too "poppy".
I bet even YOU are a better guitarist than Townshend, because I know I am!
What Pete did with the guitar was great - he's a great rhythm guy, & one of the only people to properly use distortion & feedback...but he wasn't well rounded.
Kyle Korver is a hell of a 3 point shooter, but sucks at everything else - therefore he's not a good basketball player...same when considering who's what with guitar. Pete's not great.
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@asmorgan88 well i think he is great so if u wana talk shit about him go to one of them gay homo chat rooms u like to visit with paige and beck and talk shit not a pete townsend video
bigcountrypicker 1 year ago
@bigcountrypicker
I think it was Townshend who was caught with child porn...
Pete's a great rhythm guitarist, composer, songwriter, icon...he's the guitarist in one of my favorite bands...but he's not a good lead guitarist, that's all I'm saying. You know it too. In all the years I spent telling everyone that The Who were better than Zeppelin, I fucking knew that Jimmy Page was a fucking far better guitarist than Pete.
The Ramones are my favorite band & they fucking suck...who gives a shit?
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@asmorgan88 Dude don't even put Page in the same sentence as Townsend, Page has composed incredible solos, Townsend has none.
espdemon 1 year ago
@espdemon
Exfuckingactly...
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@bigcountrypicker "Gay songs"? were they really writing homosexual lyrics? That's quite controversial for the 60's.
Superstarseven 1 year ago
@bigcountrypicker WTF
djh0267 1 year ago
Pete was no Alvin Lee or Rick Derringer, ( guitarists in that era ) BUT a great musician and composer. Pete definitely had moxy and was a first class showman. Very innovative for sure and he made a ton of money.
00Mickx 1 year ago
love you pete, always.
SWORVA1 1 year ago
He was awesome. Love his work. Long live rock!
PimplesGM 1 year ago 2
Holland has been begging Pete for years to donate a windmill or two !
buubacous 1 year ago
The Mods are gonna come after me now, but I'm a Greaser and I love the Who!
SwampDaddy7 1 year ago
It's quite simple, really: Townsend is exactly as important as Hendrix, if not moreso. You can lineup a decade's worth of Donnington and nu-metal acts with their ridiculous shtick (and I love pure metal ... Sabbath, Metallica, etc.) and they won't equal the sheer attack of Pete's onslaught. And you certainly aren't likely to see them performing as well at Pete's age. And exactly none of them have had or will have the overall impact on rock music. How many have copped Townsend's amp setup alone?
geoffgio 1 year ago 2
@geoffgio Hendrix is way better then townsend. pete just lived longer to change into a new era of music. In fact it was eric and pete who said "Jimi Hendrix is going to put us out of business"
bigrussthefusss 1 year ago
russ is obviosly an ignorant piece of flotsam. probably 400 pounds of overfed flesh living at moms house eating twinkies and playing video games. no shortage of stupid asses out there in you tube comment land. eat your ham tina
dandamagetoo 1 year ago
Thank you, Pete, indeed.
ralph1396 1 year ago
I think Pete should be credited as being the greatest at guitar showmanship than being the greatest guitarist of all time, right?
DElasee 1 year ago
awful
savemyplaylist 1 year ago
and what kind of name is russ the bus,,,,, i mean russ the pussssssY I mean russ the fussssssss LOL
wrsawy1 1 year ago
He made great rock. Sit back and listen son. I know you wouldn't talk like that if I saw you?
wrsawy1 1 year ago
@wrsawy1 another internet tough guy. I would say that to you if i saw you, just because im a young man doesnt mean im a pussy. we're talking about pete townsend not Jesus or the president. WTF? anyway ill add this too i way 250 and i do live with mom and dad. I still dont see how that has anything to do with pete townsend being the most overrated guitarist in the world! Hes lame, hes OLD! I want to start seeing some of the bands i listen to , play the superbowl.
bigrussthefusss 1 year ago
@bigrussthefusss - if you think you can improvise a solo like any of these, then you're very welcome to go ahead, but if otherwise then why don't you just shut the hell up
SamthePetrolhead 1 year ago
@SamthePetrolhead ummm yeah i can definetly improvise a solo way better then old pete here sooo yeah! My point which i guess is getting alittle lost in all this dumb youtube tough guy shit is, let some new bands through. Why is roger daltrey and pete townsend still performing live. they dont need to, they look ridiculous, sounded like crap (superbowl) and should quit with dignity
bigrussthefusss 1 year ago
@SamthePetrolhead (continued) I enjoy the whos music, i just dont think pete is a great guitar player, he "was" a decent songwriter, when he had entwistle and moon to help him along, but his solo shit was pretty lame, and he is a terrible singer. I just want to see some of the bands i like playing the superbowl
bigrussthefusss 1 year ago
LOL Pete said a lot of stuff,,, he is a rock star they talk like idiots.
Last time i checked, he was playing at the super bowl, in the rock hall of fame and selling out concerts at 65 freaking years old.
It's a game folks, he's the real deal. Jimmie is dead, clapton plays jazz, led zep is gone,,,, pete is what's left. He is humble and honest.
wrsawy1 1 year ago
@wrsawy1 are u a rocker too?... nvm:P DONT FORGET ABOUT JACKY!!!
music4meh 1 year ago
@wrsawy1 eat my shit, he needs to retire, cuz that superbowl performance sucked ass, him and daltrey looked ridiculous up there, and sounded terrible!!! why dont they just move on and let some new rock bands play! Its always the old generation got to have their way! You all ruined it for us! And believe me there are plenty of bands that would love that chance, that arent simple radio cock rock. "Hope i die before i get old!!" doesnt sound like the real deal to me, sounds like a poser!
bigrussthefusss 1 year ago
Move on and let some new rock bands play? Have you lost your mind junior? you young punks need to learn some respect, if not for guys like the Who your generation would be arguing over who's better Frankie Yankovich and his Polka Kings or Lawence Welk...so show some respect junior or keep your mouth shut!!
greenmean1 1 year ago
@greenmean1 sorry i think its quite lame to see a 70 year old man talking about teenage wasteland, and trying to hold his bowel movements while breaking his arm from attempting his classic windmill. I have shown pete respect, for 46 years. Yeah thats right 46 years these guys have been playing the same old songs. i want some new bands you harsh old bird!
bigrussthefusss 1 year ago
I love the who. Petes power chords and soloing style work well with John, Keith, and Roger. But I wonder what it would sound like if they had someone like Jeff Beck playing guitar.
PageandPlant4Life 1 year ago
@PageandPlant4Life No where near as good. Pete wrote the songs.....it's coming from the heart....
dersh65 1 year ago
Pete Townshend, overrated? He's the opposite, in my opinion. That word would be given to Slash or Lady Gaga or something.
scartissue94 1 year ago 64
@scartissue94 Slash over rated? what are you nuts?! He and Izzy wrote some of the best tunes around! how dare you put lady gaga and slash in the same catagory
bigrussthefusss 1 year ago
@scartissue94 But Slash deserves that. Everybody knows Slash is way better than guitarist we know, just like Pete.
waffflehead 1 year ago
@waffflehead
Yes, but don't you notice how everytime a rapper feels like there should be a guitar bit, they hire Slash? Like with Will.I. Am covering 'My Generation'.
scartissue94 1 year ago
@scartissue94 i agree with you but never put slash and lady gaga in the same sentence
70sdude117 1 year ago 3
@scartissue94 Indeed. While Pete Townshend is widely regarded as a great rock guitarist, he's still without question one of the most underrated rock guitarists of his generation. He REVOLUTIONIZED 1960s rock guitar, even before Jimi Hendrix and Jimmy Page. Just listen to "ANYWAY, ANYHOW, ANYWHERE", which came out in 1965, before the Jimi Hendrix Experience and Led Zeppelin were even formed! Pete was, and still is, AWESOME! And, in his prime, what a sight he was live!
DqKing2011 10 months ago 3
@scartissue94 Overrated would John Frusciante not Slash. Incredibly overrated. What does his contribution as a guitarist amount to? Disfiguring his self with drugs? What has he done that even begins to compare to somebody like Pete Townshend? Did he develop anything like 100 watt stacks? Windmills? Acrobatic stage performing? Don't tell me that Slash isn't one of the most influential guitarists of his era. You don't have to be r n' r to appreciate how good he is. He deserves his status.
nkmcfrln 7 months ago
@nkmcfrln
I'm not a huge RHCP fan, you asshole. You're acting like it's a rarity that musicians do drugs. GnR fans are so fucking sore...
scartissue94 7 months ago
@scartissue94 But Slash is better than Pete Townshend!
moneyquickeasy 5 months ago
@moneyquickeasy
Whatever floats your boat, but I think otherwise.
scartissue94 5 months ago
@scartissue94 That was a lie. Obviously Townshed is better than Slash.
moneyquickeasy 5 months ago
Cool video thanks! I think Pete Townshend is a very good guitar player, personally I find him a little noisy or untidy, like he doesn't mind sounding good or clean (but that's his style) and overrated too... I'm a huge fan off classic rock and The Who are nearly in the top of my list, but talking about guitar players, i prefer all the way Brian May, Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page, David Gilmour or Steve Hackett...
Long life to Rock'n Roll my friends
Cheers!
LuiG9 1 year ago
Damn straight.
He IS very untidy & doesn't mind if he sounds "good" or not. THAT is why he's a great guitarist...not because he's a good soloist or technician like some of the guys you listed. He's good because he can get so much out of so little.
Pete's a great guitarist, and he's done a lot for the evolution of it as instrument and for rock & roll overall...but he shouldn't be given credit where it isn't due...and he doesn't deserve to be considered a great lead guitarist.
SKINmodHEAD 1 year ago
He maid a good few good bob out of it seem him live a few times over the years band where the best ever(my view)Pete is a great artist
richdyas 1 year ago
Long Live Pete!
ukuleleandy 1 year ago
he just isnt a selfish guitar player, he doesnt need to be the one in the spot light because they are all great and equal
JFA1331 1 year ago
That 69-70 tour was something to see. Phenomenal! With Pete in the white jump suit and John in the Skeleton outfit. The best concert is on a DVD called 'The Who @ The Isle Of Wight 1970'. Pete broke barriers for many regions of rock. Rock is a bowl of soup with many seasonings in it. Rock & Roll wouldn't have the flavor it has overall if The Who didn't exist. Magnificent!
ImOfNope 1 year ago
It's terrifying to think about how ridiculously great all of the Who's musicians were. Never again?
nvrnebetr 1 year ago
One of the greatest all-around musicians EVER.
batosai370 2 years ago
A very underrated lead guitar player.
guglielmo64 2 years ago
actually, quite overrated. Pete has said so himself.
pbl1 1 year ago
I think that's his humility speaking.
guglielmo64 1 year ago
Pete was great on Live At Leeds, but he isn't a great lead guitarist. I'm a Who freak but I can't be biased like all the others.
johnnydodger 2 years ago
@johnnydodger
Watch my vids and then you won't be able to say that. In fact people who say that Pete isn't great are more biased than those who say he is b/c they know what it truly means to be a great guitar player and have heard a lot of The Who's live stuff.
joshuathemonkeyking 1 year ago
He has way better solos than any of these. Look at the video for "The Quiet One" that I added to youtube. That's one of his genuine best.
clashwho 2 years ago
Pete is great!
Qualitiy of the videos suck...
guitarkeef 2 years ago
What can I say about Pete? No one has ever put more feeling between the notes, as Pete Townshend has. No one has ever put more rock rhythm into rock&roll, as Pete Townshend has." Long live Rock!"
guitarjerry1126 2 years ago 2
Townshend is out body when on stage....pure emotion..he uses the guitar to the extreme..the man is a legend!!
amozartii 2 years ago
no care about who is best soloist, rocknroll is about rhythm and pete was good at it as well as Keith Richards, these two are the leading rock guitarists
SJ9336JE 2 years ago 5
Pete is without a doubt the greatest rythm guitarist in rock.
Period.
But he is not quite as good as lead playing and solos.
IM NOT SAYING THAT HES BAD AT LEAD PLAYING, its just that there are so many other lead guitarists who are MUCH MUCH MUCH better than him.
But hell he is still one of the greats.
mrtamberineman123 2 years ago
dude, he played lead his whole carear. the reason he isnt recognized with the greats is that he almost never played his solos on studio albums, and until whos next if you listen to the abums it sounds like an acoustic. but live he rivalled clapton and hendrix. while not as good as clapton or hendrix, he is sti;; inthe top five. this vid is good,but does him no justice. listen to live at leeds,woodstock and isle of wight, truly genius
kungpoofdoofdoof 2 years ago
He's the best rhythm guitarist.
But a very limited, poor, novice lead guitarist.
Nothing wrong with that at all...but The Who are some of the easiest shit to play on guitar. The Who weren't about the guitar anyways...
People should like Townshend for who he is & what he did, and not like him for something he wasn't...and he wasn't a lead guitarist. I don't care what you say.
SKINmodHEAD 2 years ago
@SKINmodHEAD
Well I don't care what you say either. People should appreciate him for what he is and HE IS a great lead guitarist. I don't care how easy it is to play, it's best expression/emotion not technicality.
joshuathemonkeyking 2 years ago 2
by Pete's own admission, he is not a particularly good lead guitarist. This is why he started the windmilling and "pounding stages like a clown" -- to distract from his lack of lead-playing ability (again, his words, not mine).
pbl1 1 year ago
@pbl1
So what Keith Moon said he wasn't a great drummer. Does that mean that Keith is not great?
joshuathemonkeyking 1 year ago
@mrtamberineman123 You are 100% accurate. The Who are my favorite group and I love Pete but he has never been known as a great guitar soloist. The first video rhis guy put together is laughable. That Who Are You solo is so ordinary. His best work was on Live At Leeds and the late to early 1970s. There are SO many guitarists that are MUCH MUCH better. I laugh at the people who think he is Clapton, Page or Beck.
johnnydodger 1 year ago
The thing about Pete is he may not be known for his great soloing but, he along with Keith Richards are probably the best rhythm guitarist ever, I mean just listen to any of the Who's or Stone's sides and focus on the rhythm .DEVASTATING!
greenmean1 1 year ago
the most incredible show was in woodstock
ovelonse 2 years ago
WOW
dmkramerica 2 years ago
Pete Townshend once said. "It doesnt matter how many notes you put in a lead, what matters is the space between them. Great lead guitarist!!!
kyleesmyan 2 years ago 21
@kyleesmyan BULLOCKS!
bigrussthefusss 1 year ago
@kyleesmyan Yeah that's funny, especially since Townsend could never play lead guitar worth a penny.
espdemon 1 year ago
to me this isnt really about whether or not he's a lead guitarist. the fact is that what he plays works. sometimes (a lot of the time) the best solos that bring out emotion in people arent technically challenging solos with long runs of note after note after note. (see pete's solo in young man blues from live at the isle of wight.) maybe he wasnt technically at the level of some other guys, and not a great "lead" guitarist, but it sure as hell worked for the sound the who were going for.
Strentanator 2 years ago
If Pete was such a great lead guitarist, why did he ask Eddie Phillips (twice!) to join The Who?
asmorgan88 2 years ago
@asmorgan88
To answer that, even tho Phillips denied it in an interview I think that is true, however I'm inferring that Pete did this in like 1966 or so (the websites I looked at didn't specify as to the time Pete asked this) so this was the time period where Pete didn't play much, if any lead, as he was still developing. And yes, Pete didn't have confidence in his playing, but as I said before Keith said he wasn't great drummer.
joshuathemonkeyking 2 years ago
Point being, just b/c Pete didn't think he was very good doesn't mean he isn't. Every guitarist always wishes they could play like somebody for example when Hendrix was asked how it felt to be the best guitarist ever he said "Go ask Neil Young"
joshuathemonkeyking 2 years ago
Neil Young isn't a good guitarist. Come on now. I think you're more knowledgeable than that! Listen to ANYTHING from his entire catalog & you'll conclude that he's not a great.
And, I'm a guitarist, yet I don't strive to play like anybody else.
Personal style is lacking in rock & roll, and Townshend has been one of the only original rock guitarists in history.
SKINmodHEAD 2 years ago
One word: extraordinary!!!
alabhaois 2 years ago 2
i dont understand what anyone is arguing about. cant you just appreciate the brilliance of the who and Pete? did you go to this video to argue or watch/listen??
MIKEDURSTEWITZ 2 years ago
Fuck you, kike-boy!
I'm arguing.
Seems like you are too. Or at least starting...so fuck yourself.
asmorgan88 2 years ago
what? no, it ain't like that. he's a great guitarist, he had good days and not-as-good days playing lead, but he started out primarily playing rhythm.
it's fun watching this, anyway. rate the video?
i dunno, 5/10; it's choppy, blurry, muffled-sounding in places, but where else can you find the footage?
i can't.
astronomius 2 years ago
I love The Who & all, but Pete Townshend is a real lousy lead guitarist.
SKINmodHEAD 2 years ago
The fact that the solo for "See Me/Feel Me" from Woodstock is on a video showing his "best" work is really sad...
m0dsar3us 2 years ago
@m0dsar3us
Well this is obviously a mediocre composition. DON'TJUDGE HIM BASED ON THIS VID.
joshuathemonkeyking 2 years ago
Pete's solos have gotten technically much better as he's gotten older. However, if anyone doubts how great he is/was playing lead, listen to of the expanded edition of Live at Leeds on a pair of headphones. Play it loud!
Trajan1967 2 years ago
OH man...why does everyone think Live at Leeds is some great guitar work?! It's really NOT. Some great rhythm guitar...but not such great lead playing!!!
I LOVE Pete's playing, the power, everything...
But he's fucking NOT a good lead guitarist.
Yeah, Trajan1967, I'd hope, after 40 years that his playing improves...but it's not anywhere near being on the same level playing as Beck, Page, Clapton, Hendrix...his solos in 2008 (when I last saw them) are still not as good as Beck's solos in '66
m0dsar3us 2 years ago
@m0dsar3us
No the lead playing in Leeds is great- nice power and innovation. But imo that's avg. for him.
2008- obviously Pete's lost a little bit since he's gotten OLD. So go listen to a 2000 bootleg to see how great he really is.
joshuathemonkeyking 2 years ago
You sound like a kid. I don't think you were old enough to attend a concert in 2000!!!
I love The Who, more than you can imagine, but never would I say that Townshend is a good lead guitarist. His solos are sometimes effective, but they aren't "good"!
SKINmodHEAD 2 years ago
You know when all you do say things like HE SUCKS it makes you sound more like a kid than me. and just for the record, i was old enough to attend a concert in 2000.
joshuathemonkeyking 2 years ago
You my friend, are a jackass.
"The guitarist in that band isn't nearly as influential as Pete".
You obviously have no idea, nor did you look into who the guitarist was on that album.
It's Jimmy Page, he's on that entire album...
Since you won't allow myself, or any of my friends to comment on your page, I had to tell you here, that you sound ignorant as fuck making the claims that you do about Townshend.
IT'S JIMMY PAGE PLAYING THE GUITAR FOR LES FLEUR DE LYS AND THEIR COVER OF A WHO SONG.
asmorgan88 2 years ago
@asmorgan88
I did look into who that guitarist was, and I sent you the link- nowhere did it say Page played lead on that album, all it said was that he was the PRODUCER.
Even if it really is Page doesn't matter they're both influential guitarists and the solo doesn't change my opinion of Pete anyway. And all I have to say is that if I sound ignorant to you then no wonder you're calling me a jackass.
joshuathemonkeyking 2 years ago
Jimmy Page played lead guitar on Les Fleur De Lys' studio album. He also produced it.
Let's not forget that he played on nearly every British record, in every genre, so to say that it isn't him (when it fucking is), is indeed ignorant, jackass.
The point being, other guitarists can play Who songs better than Pete.
asmorgan88 2 years ago
well about half of page's catalogue is copied from old blues artists without crediting them...in case you didn't know. look it up
yrrebhsuk 2 years ago
What does that have to do with him being skilled or not?
asmorgan88 2 years ago
well a good guitarist can make his own songs
yrrebhsuk 2 years ago
@asmorgan88 Page did not play on Circles according to the members of the Fleur de Lys that appeared at the 100 club last November!!
shelleys9I 1 year ago
@asmorgan88
Maybe you should read the most recent comment posted on my part 1 vid and then think twice before calling me a jackass.
joshuathemonkeyking 2 years ago
Well, if you weren't such an emotional coward, I would be able to read & comment & defend my opinions on your videos...but you don't allow that.
asmorgan88 2 years ago
@asmorgan88
No I blocked you b/c you were being an stubborn ignorant prick w/ a bunch of stupid arguments. It was going nowhere and even this is going nowhere.
joshuathemonkeyking 2 years ago
That's not true.
You were offended that I didn't like Townshend's lead playing. You didn't like the reasoning I gave, you couldn't come to grips with the fact their guitar work isn't a focus of the group, you were upset that others were agreeing with me (you blocked them too I'm told!)...
Expect people to have opinions, and if you're going to upload a video...EXPECT COMMENTS - especially if you're uploading music videos...and are making claims that Townshend is a good lead guitarist.
asmorgan88 2 years ago
@asmorgan88
Ok I'm just gonna give my final thoughts on this and then I'm done arguing w/ you, b/c it's quite clear to me that you don't accept other people's opinions very well. For the record I didn't block all your friends. And your so-called "reasoning" was that you claimed to be "older" than me that I must be wrong and that this solo sucked and what not, and even if you said it didn't suck, you said it didn't compare to the greats- claims no vaguer than any I've made.
joshuathemonkeyking 2 years ago
@asmorgan88
What I mean is- you said the Heaven and Hell didn't compare to the greats. You never said how or why it doesn't. I asked you why Pete's solos suck, you even admitted you couldn't give a reason. And I know that guitar work isn't the main focus of the group, but that doesn't mean the guitarist can't be great- the bass wasn't the focus of LZ (JPJ played mulitple instruments) and yet JPJ is recognized as a great bass player.
joshuathemonkeyking 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
"This sucks" & "He sucks playing lead" are valid opinions.
Why does he suck? How does he suck? Aside from LISTENING to it, & concluding that he does indeed suck playing lead, there's no way to determine it!!!
You have to listen to it, and draw your own opinion.
My opinion : great rhythm guitarist, terrible lead guitarist.
asmorgan88 2 years ago
Dude dont be jealous cause u cant play as good as he can
ACLZBS70 2 years ago
@asmorgan88
Fine them. My opinion that he fucking rocks and both. Shut up and go watch some techie shit.
joshuathemonkeyking 2 years ago
The same could be said about you, fuckstick.
Stubborn - you're stubborn by not letting your guard down about Townshend. Yeah, he's influential, yeah he's a great songwriter, yeah he's a rock icon...but he's not a guitarist. He may have played guitar in The Who...but he's not a guitarist...he's not articulate, or technical...he just blasts out riffs and chords, makes noise, and has poor lead ability.
Ignorant - you're ignorant thinking that Townshend is a force of nature that inspires all forms
asmorgan88 2 years ago
@asmorgan88
Of course I'm not gonna let my guard down, and the same can be said for you. And what you clearly don't understand about solos is that when a guitarist solos he/she has to let it flow freely- they have to let the song speak to them. It can't be practiced, like playing scales fast which can be. And to me, Pete's emotional thoughtful improvisation flows freely and he lets the song speak to him. Sloppy yes but so are Page and Hendrix. And I misspoke by all forms I meant lots of rock.
joshuathemonkeyking 2 years ago
You're a stubborn, ignorant prick by claiming that the guitarist on the "Circles" track by Les Fleur De Lys isn't nearly as good or influential as Pete...when that guitarist was Jimmy Page...
You're a stubborn, ignorant prick for thinking Neil Young & Angus Young are good lead guitarists.
You're a stubborn, ignorant prick for thinking if people are influenced by something, that it must be the best.
You're a stubborn, ignorant prick for thinking Townshend is a good lead guitarist.
asmorgan88 2 years ago
@asmorgan88
Ok well for starters I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that that is indeed Page playing lead, but to justify me saying that I did as much research as I could to see if that was Page, and no site could give me a clear answer. And it doesn't matter, Page and Pete both have better solos than that. And for all the reasons you stated for saying I'm an ignorant prick, I could say you're an ignorant prick for saying all those things.
joshuathemonkeyking 2 years ago
@asmorgan88
And for the record I never said that if people are influenced by something it must be the best. Now, hbu- whenever watch some Pete vids where he pulls off a sick solo I always see you comment w/ the same damn thing "this sucks". I must ask- why do you watch all these Pete vids if you don't like him? It seems like you're the type of person who prefers technical wankery in a solo- which is fine, I can't change that about you.
joshuathemonkeyking 2 years ago
But what does piss me off is the fact that you go around acting like your opinion is right and no one elses, w/ things like calling people like me "jerks" and "naive little fucks". And you and your friends kept relentlessly badgering me about it, and some of the argument was about maturity for god's sake. so that's why I blocked you and some of your friends, and that's why I'm done arguing w/ you, b/c you and I both know that you're not gonna change your opinion.
joshuathemonkeyking 2 years ago
So then you know what, go watch your technical wankery shit. Don't bother responding, you'll just waste your time. I'll respect your opinion if you respect mine, I just want to make sure people actually see Pete's best before they come up w/ a final opinion- that's why I get pissed when people say he's bad after watching this vid, b/c this vid isn't nearly his best, and even some of mine aren't either. You and I have different opinions on what makes a guitarist great, and that's the way it is.
joshuathemonkeyking 2 years ago
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Yeah man, maybe my taste in guitar is a little too strong.
Maybe I listen to too many good guitarists to even recognize Pete as being decent (he's a good rhythm guy).
Take Townshend's best work, compare it to Page playing a song by The Who, and there you have it...
asmorgan88 2 years ago
@asmorgan88
I did. Pete's sounds better. Ok then, go watch Achilles Last Sta