An amazing video. Can you please contact me and let me know how I can get the full version please? This is what I learned to. You can contact me on my web address on my profile. Thanks.
How nice to see the 'old' standards again, professional instructors and professional standards. Being a police trained and qualified rider/driver then was seen as a world class standard. Maybe it's time to bring the 'old' standards back!
I could not agree more. I did my training in the 1980's, when standards were high and we took a pride in our driving. Almost forgot we used to have a traffic section then in Staffordshire. Now that has become this thing called Road Policing.... and the driving school has been demolished......
Wow it's all the same then! just as it is NOW. wonder how many young lives would still be with us today if they were told this type of road craft and not just to pass there test.....my work needs me to be safe and to make progress, not speed..
Brilliant! I've still got my Roadcraft (Car and Bike from 1971 and 1974). So much has changed since then, but I can still repeat the statements we were taught ... All corners and bends ... a hazard is any ... and the bike is just like my old R80/7.
I do not know if you can remember, we used to learn the book front to back........Then they brought a new one out. We had the best era, professional trainers and professional standards.
Me too. Roadcraft by Rote, and the Highway Code as well. And always rumours of a certain trainer who would ride around the outside of you on a bend rapping your knuckles with a length of timber if your hands were in the wrong position. There wasn't anything I couldn't do on a BSA C15 ...
Giving hand signals, especially the slowing down flapping one was a nightmare. When I was a boy ... none of these button things. Had an indicator failure recently and had to resort to hand signals - desperate!!
Brilliant! Thank you very much for posting this! Where's all the traffic!?? Ha ha! The video camera must've been bloody huge........
I'm interested to know the history of Roadcraft - at some point somebody must have sat down and thought very hard about advanced riding techniques. Where would I find this info?
I first read Roadcraft when I was 18 and thought it was all cobblers - obviously at 18 I already knew all about biking....32 now and still alive some how.
Thanks for the comments. This is what inspired me to use video footage for training. I managed to get in touch with the Police Officer who actually made the video. An interesting talk...
I was told that The System had been put together by Stirling Moss and the Met Driving School at Hendon. I was taught racing lines - various courses bike / car / ambulance 1971-1984. It was a bit of a shock to have to relearn the lines when I came back to biking last year.
Roadcraft first devised by racing drivers, amongst these was the Earl of Cottenham, had been a member of the Alvis racing team in 1925 and Sunbeam team in 1926.
In 1937, prompted by the high incidence of accidents by police drivers, the Met. Commissioner sought his help.
Cottenham worked with other drivers, including Malcolm Campbell and they came up with the Ten Commandments of Driving, which if followed put a car in the right place, at the right time and in the right gear
I see now, sorry for the previos entry - Senior moment. All I can think is that they were trying to show how all the features of the system looked if you used all the features in one sequence. However we al know only use the features which are appropriate to the circumstances. So going along those lines, Horn not required....
This footage was it in the late 1970's. When I did my training it was chalk board etc.. No hi tech stuff, so with regards to the horn thing ! Old habits die hard. Things have moved on.
And regarding staffs traffic. I have a video on my profile of the three spires competition. I have the full version too if you want to see it.
RoadcraftNottingham 1 year ago
An amazing video. Can you please contact me and let me know how I can get the full version please? This is what I learned to. You can contact me on my web address on my profile. Thanks.
RoadcraftNottingham 1 year ago
This is so logical - doing rider training at the moment - using the system
1joshos 1 year ago
How nice to see the 'old' standards again, professional instructors and professional standards. Being a police trained and qualified rider/driver then was seen as a world class standard. Maybe it's time to bring the 'old' standards back!
bykermz1 2 years ago 2
I could not agree more. I did my training in the 1980's, when standards were high and we took a pride in our driving. Almost forgot we used to have a traffic section then in Staffordshire. Now that has become this thing called Road Policing.... and the driving school has been demolished......
advancedbiker 2 years ago
Wow it's all the same then! just as it is NOW. wonder how many young lives would still be with us today if they were told this type of road craft and not just to pass there test.....my work needs me to be safe and to make progress, not speed..
sacheus 2 years ago
Brilliant! I've still got my Roadcraft (Car and Bike from 1971 and 1974). So much has changed since then, but I can still repeat the statements we were taught ... All corners and bends ... a hazard is any ... and the bike is just like my old R80/7.
Thanks - memories recalled!!!
trangwales 2 years ago
I do not know if you can remember, we used to learn the book front to back........Then they brought a new one out. We had the best era, professional trainers and professional standards.
advancedbiker 2 years ago
Me too. Roadcraft by Rote, and the Highway Code as well. And always rumours of a certain trainer who would ride around the outside of you on a bend rapping your knuckles with a length of timber if your hands were in the wrong position. There wasn't anything I couldn't do on a BSA C15 ...
trangwales 2 years ago
Taking your hand off the main controls approaching junctions Arrghh. Poor sods
thehowlingterror 3 years ago
Giving hand signals, especially the slowing down flapping one was a nightmare. When I was a boy ... none of these button things. Had an indicator failure recently and had to resort to hand signals - desperate!!
trangwales 2 years ago
Lol ive a copy of this book
leofurleigh 4 years ago
This must be a little bit later than 1977 - te more modern version of the STOP sign is used, which came in around 1980.
DavidA361 4 years ago
I am in yours hands. I am only going by the model of BMW.
advancedbiker 4 years ago
Thanks I am only going by the type of BMW. I can check as I have made contact with the Police Officers who made the video.
advancedbiker 4 years ago
Brilliant! Thank you very much for posting this! Where's all the traffic!?? Ha ha! The video camera must've been bloody huge........
I'm interested to know the history of Roadcraft - at some point somebody must have sat down and thought very hard about advanced riding techniques. Where would I find this info?
I first read Roadcraft when I was 18 and thought it was all cobblers - obviously at 18 I already knew all about biking....32 now and still alive some how.
Thanks again ;-)
leesstuff 4 years ago
Thanks for the comments. This is what inspired me to use video footage for training. I managed to get in touch with the Police Officer who actually made the video. An interesting talk...
advancedbiker 4 years ago
Probably 16mm film
tvfilmglamdirector 3 years ago
Hmmm, early video it is.
tvfilmglamdirector 3 years ago
I was told that The System had been put together by Stirling Moss and the Met Driving School at Hendon. I was taught racing lines - various courses bike / car / ambulance 1971-1984. It was a bit of a shock to have to relearn the lines when I came back to biking last year.
trangwales 2 years ago
Roadcraft first devised by racing drivers, amongst these was the Earl of Cottenham, had been a member of the Alvis racing team in 1925 and Sunbeam team in 1926.
In 1937, prompted by the high incidence of accidents by police drivers, the Met. Commissioner sought his help.
Cottenham worked with other drivers, including Malcolm Campbell and they came up with the Ten Commandments of Driving, which if followed put a car in the right place, at the right time and in the right gear
simonhep 2 years ago
I see now, sorry for the previos entry - Senior moment. All I can think is that they were trying to show how all the features of the system looked if you used all the features in one sequence. However we al know only use the features which are appropriate to the circumstances. So going along those lines, Horn not required....
advancedbiker 4 years ago
This footage was it in the late 1970's. When I did my training it was chalk board etc.. No hi tech stuff, so with regards to the horn thing ! Old habits die hard. Things have moved on.
advancedbiker 4 years ago