The Ultimate Guide (5/5) TYRANNOSAURUS REX

[legendbooks]

Jack Horner, quit hating on t-rex..

[irvinemuscles]

T-Rex was a hunter, no doubt about it. It killed what it wanted.

[TheDiseaseDevil]

what brand of toothpaste does this t rex use? his teeth are so clean and white!!!! even better than mine!

[Tobius11]

jack horner u faget

[KantoIkari]

IMO Parasaurolophus or Edmontosaurus are very interesting animals. So if Horner feels fond with them, cool. But Daspleto, Drypto or Rex are distant animals, so if he haven't studied them THAT much as ornithopods, why does he claim to be so sure about Rex's killing method? Anyway, my fascination for tyrannosaurids ends with the asian Alectrosaurus, so I give a f*ck about this predator-scavenger debate. Call me when you talk about Giganotosaurus <3

[headoyster]

These guys are idiots! Here they are arguing over scavenger/hunter theories, yet in this doco itself is clear video footage of the t rex hunting. What's wrong with these guys? I thought they were smart. I am so smart: s. m. r. t.

[irvinemuscles]

@headoyster You're right. Screw these bozos. T-rex would of hunted and killed them with ease.

[laughthis138]

that was terrible animation of a t-rex attack

[TheScrawnyChicken]

Oops i just realized that is the same thing

[TheScrawnyChicken]

@6Vital6Remains6: I get what youre saying but from what i know Birds are avian Dinosaurs (im not trying to be an asshole) :)

[musicman3005]

ok now that we got that settled what is it a mammal or reptile ????

[6Vital6Remains6]

@musicman3005 Saurischians are non-avian birds.

[susumu07]

T. rex had huge jaw muscles both outside and inside the jaw. You don't need that to scavenge a carcass.

Vultures have weak jaws and no teeth, and they are scavengers. They don't even eat bone, they just strip meat off the bone. All mammalian "scavengers" (like hyenas) are actually predators too, so the case for a purely scavenging T. rex is not very good.

[winniethethrough]

Personly I like the stop motian dinos better than computer genorated ones.( with the exeption of Jurassic park 1.2.3.  =) )

[mjparthum]

Ken Carpenter for the WIN! T-Rex = badass. Case closed.

[Cissy2cute]

I'd like to know how those who support the scavenger theory can explain the markings on T-Rex bones that come from a Triceratops. It is obvious that those scars could only come from wounds the T-Rex suffered while fighting with a Triceratops.

It's a no-brainer!

[cf572]

@Cissy2cute jack honer is the guy who said it was a scavenger dr. jack honer the dummy

[BerserkerCade77]

@Cissy2cute Mabee it always went like this:

T-rex- Go away, I found your friend dead here. So ima eat him.

Triceratops- Hey, mabee we wanna put him in the ground live civilized dinos.

T-rex- Fuck off, come at me bro.

Triceratops- Lets box >:)

T-rex- oh haha -.-

[flizzleFlopper]

@Cissy2cute I have no prob with the hunter theory, but your argument (and theirs) is flawed...you're assuming (among other things) that because the T Rex fought with a Trike that it was hunting it...but hunting wasn't (and isn't) the only reason animals fight. Territory and just plain fear lead to most physical confrontations between animals...plus hardly any predators hunt anything that has even the slightest chance of besting it...it's just not worth the risk of injury and infection...

[Dour888]

@Cissy2cute many peaples don't know that but....Horner himself gived up with his own scavenger theory...he have done it in one of his books, when he sayed that observing the demography of herbivores and carnivores it can be assumed that t-rex must be an active predator too since the herbivores estimated population is just too high for be threatened just by nannotyrannus and deinonychus.

Whitout t-rex active predation late cretaceous nort america echosystem would't be biologically possible

[Cissy2cute]

@Dour888 - I did not know that about Horner. Thank you for telling me. You are right, T-Rex was an apex predator and without them the ecosystem would be unbalanced. Today that role belongs to sharks (in the water) and the big cats on land. Minor predators still exist of course (like wolves) but when looking at the whole picture, someone is always at the top of the food chain.

T-Rex fit that position. Glad Horner finally realized this. A true scientist will admit when he is wrong.

[Dour888]

@Cissy2cute he dosen't done it in a nice manner: he sayed "t-rex wasn't a full predator but an opportunist" like if everyone always supported the full pred. theory and he is the "smart guy" who disproved the "wrong guys", this when every1 know perfectly that things was: horner = full scavenger when most-of-others = opportunistic predator (that is actually the right wiew)

He just passed to the undeniably right theory exploiting the extremenes of the full pred. side for appear as "the smart 1"

[Dour888]

@Cissy2cute let's face it, despite he worked on t-rexes, horner's best field are hadrosaurs, not giant theropods.

He probably pull out that theory for some reason, then, knowing e just sayed such a bullshit he prefered try to grab on the few (twisted) facts in his favor rather than admitted he sayed that thing (that would have been REALLY humiliating).

Reasons behind it? wel, he admitted that he officially hate t-rex (NO JOKE)

Why? someone sayed: Jack like hadros, rex EAT THEM

can it be true XD?

[Dour888]

@Cissy2cute there are the exact words "This census suggests that Tyrannosaurus was not strictly a predator, but instead more of an opportunistic feeder, possibly selecting similar food choices under circumstances comparable to that of hyenas in extant ecosystems, A TREND UNRECOGNIZED IN EARLIER CENSUS STUDIES."

Every1 that (like us) followed the rex scavenger/predator debate just cannot see the evidence of how he shamelessly tryed to save his face...with the obvious result of an EPIC FAIL -_-"

[Cissy2cute]

@Dour888 - This is interesting because there was a TV show about hyenas last week where they corrected the myth that they were scavengers. Hyenas are very vicious hunters, and are not above attacking people. Horner loves his duckbills, which is fine because I think they are interesting too. He has done some fine work regarding them. And his "dislike" of the tyrannosaurids is quite apparent (or perhaps we should say he does not like all the attention they get). But there is room for all.

[Dour888]

@Cissy2cute maybe his true motivation has been always just purely ICONOCLASTIC.

goal: DESTROY REXY'S POPULARITY

He tryed to do that with a scientific theory but that strategy didn't have the RANGE for do the job

Then Steve hired him for TLW, realizing that JP (THE MAIN SOURCE OF REX'S POPULARITY and then what masses would have followed without question) would have been the perfect vector for his idea, he tryed that way...

in TLW Steve just shutted him up...in JP3 Joe (tragically) dosen't...

[daverowbotham]

@Dour888 Oh come on. This is how science works, theories are put forward, tested, and tossed out when falsified. The guy is a scientist, not a drama queen.

[Dour888]

@daverowbotham I've researched more about him and i've discovered that his iconoclastic tendecies where just a positive provocation to always see things by your own mind witouth "fossilizing" (perfect term huh? XD) on DOGMAS.

Predator t-rex was just one the strongest dogmas, and THAT'S why he choosed it as the main taget.

The fact this dogma has been proven to be effectively true dosen't matter for jack's purpose, the very fact that the whole question has been pointed out was already a victory

[Dour888]

@daverowbotham However, despite his intentions with the whole scavenger theory were far from be nefariuos, i still think he abused his influence as jp3 paleo-consulent for impose the vision that he like more over the scientific one.

Don't get me wrong, even in this frangent i don't think he was malicious, i cannot know wtf happened in those pre jp3 days, but i think he just thinked: "hey...is just a film with a LOT of paleo-errors alreday, at this point why i should still care? LET'S HAVE FUN"

[Dour888]

@daverowbotham what horner had seemed to forget is that, in movie industries, you just cannot screw off the main star of the whole serie without having a worldwide angry mob that want hang the filmakers with their own bowels! )8D...........ok no, that was a bit too much XP

Poor joe...he just followed naughty jackie's indications...and he has been blamed as the ideator of the spino thing! XD

The "real t-rex" has been always "safe"....the "movie one" must still be restored :)

[daverowbotham]

@Cissy2cute The scavenger theory is falsified...

[FearedAudacity]

@Cissy2cute Also no meat eaters are solely scavengers. Take hyaena's for example. Even vultures will take a small mammal.

[PWRex]

the proof that t-rex hunted is in this video!

[supersmash43]

@PWRex of course. How could it not hunt?

[Tyrannobull]

@supersmash43 its because supposedly it was a "scavenger" as Jack Horner continuously states.