Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid - half speed analysis

[arne3ooo]

I'd love to see the scene in normal speed and without your commentary.

[Onlymusical]

Ever think about the similarity between Clu Gulager's voice and Kris Kristofferson's? Me neither until exactly this moment. I'm betting that it had occurred, though, to Peckinpah, who worked in television westerns during the time of "The Tall Man," the 1960 series about Garrett and Bonney with Gulager as Billy the Kid. I always enjoyed Gulager's rendition the most and would like to see it again. And I'd love to behold Wallace Beery as Pat Garrett in the 1930 version of "Billy the Kid."

[1stDewboy]

unfortunently, its very difficult to understand what you say since there is the audio track you have running in the background is too loud.

[CronusPrime]

such a wonderful film and your commentary is quite reflective and I think you capture it..

[panacea999]

"There's no need for clarification or elucidation .." You said it.

[moyadapne]

Would the cynic in me make me think the end scene was contrived to allow Dylan's famous song in somewhere? I saw the movie years ago and thought that then too.

[pcretard]

Thanks for your perceptive comments! Truly one of Peckinpah's finest moments ~ though I prefer the long edit where Slim wades into the river and drifts away like the boat he'd been building...

[zackepple]

where can you see the long edit?

[zackepple]

you can tell by L.Q. Jones' last line that this is the 1988 preview version.

[MLTSproductions]

peckinpah sucked!!!!!

he was a drunken weirdo and he barely did anything in this movie except stink up the set with vodka

[dannette21]

Sam Peckinpah was a master of his trade you dumb fuckers.

[CreepingDeath007]

And, by this you tried to tell me... just what?

[cholulasaucehot]

and the first western worth a shit historically was 1960's the magnificent 7 all the others before were corny shit era films even 1962's how the west was won was beat and 1969's mckennas gold for that matter you fuckers have no taste, dont waste my time...fonda,eastwood,robarbs,­coburn,wallach,van cleef,terence hill,to name a few all worked with leone, comparin the great peckinpaw to leone is just fuckin ridiculous but you can pick on my use of "your" you assholes know nothing

[cholulasaucehot]

the good the bad and the ugly alone beats the hell out of the wild bunch....but still i love sam but dont talk shit

[cholulasaucehot]

love sam but he was no sergio

[pissedllama]

That's right, he was better.

[cholulasaucehot]

so your another idiot ? i love sam peckinpah's films ive seen em all however sergio leone is clearly better it's beyond opinion, especially yours the good, the bad and the ugly fistful of dollars for a few dollars more once upon a time in the west once upon a time in america duck you sucka...aka..fistful of dynamite my name is nobody to name a few..so just relax kid..sam is great..the Best ? no that is the great sergio leone

[tolkienfinger]

nice use of "your", idiot

[tolkienfinger]

nice use of "your", idiot.

[cholulasaucehot]

thanks asshole .....ya attack my fuckin grammer, only comment your capable of lol

[pissedllama]

No John Ford is the best, and Sergio would be the first to agree. After all Leone's westerns are only parodies of Fords films and In reality did not really move the genre foward. Bloody Sam Peckinpah, see contary to fanboys like leone did nothing to 'deconstruct' the myths of the old west (Ford was doing that 20 years prior) he actually made them more fictionlized cartoony. So why not actually try giving some reasons why he is the best? Ya know that usually makes an opinion more valid.

[cholulasaucehot]

are you crazy......have you ever seen the movies the good the bad and the ugly , once upon a time in the west ? the 2 best westerns ever made with the best scores...

ennio morriconne and sergio leone PERIOD

i dont care what you think john ford did first ? the cinematography alone let alone the story lines, the actors..and so on..

parodies of ford films ? lol you know nothing about great films..most all westerns before 1960 sucked they were corny. get a life your arguement sucks

[cholulasaucehot]

heres a list of the best westerns ever ill name 10 not in order i suggest you watch them and get a clue......... 1]the good the bad and the ugly 2]once upon a time in the west 3]my name is nobody 4]butch cassidy and the sundance kid 5]unforgivin 6]fistful of dynamite (aka duck you sucka) 7]for a few dollars more 8]the wild bunch 9]fistful of dollars 10] true grit 11] my name is trinity i do have a soft spot for cause again terence hill..hope this helps fuck shane and the searchers

[pissedllama]

>most all westerns before 1960 sucked they were corny.

So a 5 min scenes of 2 characters shooting off each others hats isn't corny.(For a Few Dollars more) or scenes in which the charcters ride a bike to the 'Raindrops' song(Butch Cassidy) isn't corny?

[cholulasaucehot]

lol..........the raindrops scene is vintage, classic shit........you kiddin me ? brings tears to my eyes and so many other parts of that classic......i'm not gonna sit here and defend redford and newman in that movie....i'm finished with you heres a few more of the best movies ever made...educate yourself and watch them

one flew over the coockoo's nest

cool hand luke

deliverance

apocalypse now

bladerunner

[pissedllama]

Done doing what? all you've done list the titles of movies I've all already seen, you have not formed any knid of argument.

[cholulasaucehot]

lol.......fool

[missmissy113]

your clip rocks lol

[samspeckle]

it's just some dumb movie you jackass narrator. Don't act like it's something more than it is.

[cholulasaucehot]

asshole yes you....samspeckle

[GrahamCarroll]

You're a complete ignorant dumbass. Do you think that filmmakers just pull this out of their asses? Do architects just through a bunch of metal together and call it a building? It takes maticulous planning and detication, with focus being put on every decision made, in order to portray ideas.

[RiverBirch1967]

Another version??? I understand putting it on DVD, I have it, but there are already at least 4 versions already floating around out there. lol

[RiverBirch1967]

Another thing about this scene is that it is almost poetic as people knew what was to happen, accepting death (though fighting to stay alive) as part of the inevitable. No one bothered the dying. Each person was facing their own death alone, even with so many others around them.

[RiverBirch1967]

This is fantastic! What a great idea and I love your take on it. This scene was truely moving and it went so fast, like you said. They were products of their age, of the land. Dying alone by the river, with a loved one nearby, respecting that need, that scene just haunts me.

[lschultz2001]

Holy overanalysis Batman!

[santoonie]

I think you over analyzed the sequence. It's a good part of the movie, but it doesn't take rocket science to understand. Usually analyzation is required on sequences not so easily understood. What's with the half speed? I just don't get this post. Maybe it's me.