European Elections 2009

[Cgullins]

What propoganda! They act as if they are the peace makers. First off, it was the British and their allies who made peace. Second, remember that area called the Balkans. Complete rubbish this video is.

[megamarsvin]

Frankly between the people's complete lack of understanding, the media's sensationalist frenzy and the politicians power grubbing perhaps it's time to give up on the EU before the right-wingers use it as a platform to take over once again.

[worcesterwombat]

bad loser! the left is being eradiacted - the sooner it's destroyed completely never to return, the better

[megamarsvin]

Honestly I wish the UK would just step out already. You're ruining it for the rest of us who do want progress in the world, who do not want to become an irrelevant collection of bickering states on the world stage.

[mez6117]

What an arrogant little pr*ck you are. implying any view other than your is wrong, or comes from a lack of knowledge. Maybe a little country like holland cant progress, without being ruled by someone else. But the U.K and many other country's in the E.U are more than capable of progressing with out the interference of other nations.

I suggest it you that as a lack of understanding, and in particular the word democracy.

[megamarsvin]

Well if you think that's true then, like I said, be my guest. Just stop bitching and moaning about it. As the American's say "shit or get off the pot".

[mez6117]

If given the choice, there is no doubt that the U.K population would vote to leave the E.U. but we havent been given a choice.

Europe is not one nation, and the E.U can bring out as many treaty as they like, but a few fat shelf serving politicians cant wipe out 1000s of years of history, by signing pieces of paper.

And again you seem to have no idea about democracy (as the E.U commission dont), because pointing out failing is a good thing, not Bitching and moaning.

[Snagprophet]

I lol'd at the WWI mention. Really, is anyone really stupid enough to join a war if one country kills another's leader's son?

UKIP!

[2DRonaldo]

Cute Video.

I voted, love democracy!

[jwwhite021]

I love this, well done, great piece of work!

[kipps2]

That is a damn impressive piece of work!

I'm happy with the content of the message, but the vid itself is excellent.

[maribrav]

Great video!

Deserves to be seen by every european voter : ).

I already voted today, hopefully it will make a difference

[hydra8888]

Vote out the bastards /bitches that voted to ratify the Lisbon Treaty!

[himoverthere1]

Really great video. Deserves to be seen by a lot more people. Preferably as many as are fed a daily diet of misinformation and prejudice about the EU by our glorious media.

[Spenner56]

I loved the video...even though it's propoganda.

1.These are not the European elections (Norway,Switzerland etc.also belong to Europe)

These are EU elections.

2.The elections are not democratic : In a real democracy every vote has the same weight.

38,000 votes are needed in Luxemburg to chose an MEP. In Germany the number of votes needed is 628,000.

3.Europeans were never asked if they wanted an EU parliament & an un-elected legislative.

4.What is a peace-loving EU army ?

[hmateka]

I acknowledge it is. Political campaigns can easily be condemned as propaganda.

1. As a matter of fact, the council of EU ministers is called European Council, rather than Council of the European Union, although it comprises but ministers of EU countries. But you are right. This promotional video was my coursework for Political Marketing at a British university, therefore it is targeted at a British audience (hence the 4th on June) rather than a Norwegian or Swiss one.

[hmateka]

Terminological superaccuracy was a secondary aspect when making this video.

2. I agree that the EU has got a certain degree of democratic deficit. My point of view is, however, that it is the Commission and the ECB that suffer of such an illegitimacy, not the Parliament, being the most democratic organ of the EU. The EU is not a union of the citizens of its member states but a union of sovereign states.

[hmateka]

Therefore no state can be over-represented to such an extent that your train of thought would suggest, leading to a formidable oppression of states such as Luxemburg (Germany having 160 times more seats in the European Parliament). At the same time a Parliament with thousands of MEPs would be highly ineffective. My point of view is that the current allocation of seats, even if not perfect, is fairer and more effective than one strictly based on population size would be.

[Spenner56]

Thanks for your intelligent reply.

I agree with you. However, please do not attempt to confuse the EU system with that of a classic DEMOCRACY.

As far as your other point goes,the referendums were for the EEC which WAS a trading block but has now mutated into a political system intent on replacing sovereign states...without the consent of their peoples.

This is against Article 1 of the UN's Covernant on Social and Political Rights.

[hmateka]

Article 1 of what you refer to is something like this: "All peoples have the right of self-determination. By virtue of that right they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development."

I do not thing suppression of peoples in the EU -because of the EU- is as menacing as you suggest.

[2DRonaldo]

Is there anywhere I can get an Online peak of the Lisbon Treaty and see what it says?

It has me Curious.

[Spenner56]

Google eutruth or no2eu.

Happy reading !

[2DRonaldo]

You might as well tell me to visit Alex Jones like the Tin Foil Hats tend to.

I'm for the EU, I'm against EU Laws that make stupid regulations that interfere with British Services and Law.

[Erech01]

Agreed, the EU should only make laws regarding standards and regulation and laws which make it easier for EU member states to track down criminals in other members. Im also for the EU, but it needs reform.

[2DRonaldo]

That's generally my view, a strong unified trade agreement, neither France, Britain or Germany alone can compete with the United States, China or Russia.

An EU based Interpol is already in existence but it's poorly run, I heard they're reforming it.

But problems with our Prison service and Crime and Punishment is generally my beef with Brussels.

[hmateka]

3. I am afraid that you are at least partly wrong, as accession was approved by public referenda in most EU member states. Norway did not join as her membership was rejected by a public referendum. As I know, there were referenda were held on predecessors to the EU such as the ECSC and EEC as well.

4. EU battlegroups are insignificant and have no invasion force. Joint EU military force is rather designed for peacekeeping.

Thank you for your inspiring comment :)

[Spenner56]

Allow me to repeat myself and compliment you on your beautiful work.

On a less beautiful subject,...many of us (especially here in Germany) are wary of plans for a European `defence ´force willing and able under the Lisbon treaty/constitution to engage militarily anywhere in the world without regard to the UN charter.

`Designed for peacekeeping´often leads (with the stroke of a pen) to something completely different...by which time it is too late for discussion.

[hmateka]

Thanks again :)

I share your concerns and hope they are going to turn out to have been superfluous.

[kipps2]

Judging from past performances you have nothing to worry from an EU force. When the EU struggled embarrassingly in the Bosnian war in the early 1990s, the Americans took control. In 1999 as the war between Serbia & Kosovo worsened, we needed the Americans again. We also rely on them to defend us in Europe.

We won't be able to give up our individual armed forces if the EU is still run by bureaucratic committees (endless lawyers) many of whom are virtual pacifists or wracked with old guilt.

[nlrkoi1]

Well done! Very well calculated timing.

[jmoellen]

Fabulous video!

[Zoidberg9219]

This is beautiful!

[UltimateGoonBadge]

BNP all the way!

[bachelorer]

Well done!

Finaly a pro-European commercial. There are too much stupid and ignorant run of the mill EU-bashing.