This bizarre adoration of Mary has to do with the worship of isis in the early church carried over by newly converted ex pagans . They just couldn't let go of the old religion and it still persists to this day . Easter is just as pagan and so is Xmas .
As Dr White described at 25:08, I Tim says it all. With this scripture, this debate is less than a minute long, but far be it for a catholic to cave in under pressure of the truth.
I Tim 2:5-6
For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
So much for Mary being a mediatrix or whatever they call her.
The catholic scholar puts on a good show and is very believable, but....when the comparison is made to what he says and what actually happens, there is a serious contrast. This difference is the same between words and action. Say one thing.....do another.
The bottom line?
Everything with the spiritual IS WHAT IT IS, and is not changed by a religion. God has His rules, and they are unchanging. John 14:6 says it all...no if's and's or but's. No adding Mary, no slipping by the rules.
Mary was a wonderful woman, but she is not our Mediator or Redeemer...the catholic church elevate her to a position she has no business being in, it is Jesus and not Mary...who is key in our salvation because He and only He washed us of our sins, and only He has the power to hear our prayers and answer them, not Mary or John...Peter and Paul...it was and always will be all about Jesus Christ.
This might be a legitimate video and a fair debate if they had gotten an actual Catholic to argue the Marian doctrine. From the first words he speaks, he is wrong about Catholic theology (the feast of Our Lady of Lourdes is February 11). This video is staged and it does a disservice to ecumenism.
I think if the need for a virgin birth of Mary in order for Christ to be sinless to be true there would have to be an unbroken line of virgin births going all the way back to Eve.
"edificies of theology built on little tiny statements found in scripture" says White...you mean like the Trinity? a doctrine shared by both Catholics & Protestants? :P
@kyzersoze74 No Christian who knows Scripture would ever say the deity and distinction in person-hood between the 3 is only built on a few tiny statements. It flows from every page of Scripture.
francis of assisi ,as in san francisco ,yeah right ,we know who lives there ,and in assissi the pope said muslims and everyone else including them were praying to the same god ,small "g" intended ,why is everything that has either francis or assissi involved in it is allways utter rebellion against the the allmighty GOD
considering what lying ,robbing ,murdering ,child molesting heathen the people of the vatican are it is well possible that they faked miracles to get people on side ,i would like to investigate at least one case and not just go on hearsay of a load of proven heritics ,when GOD smash's the vatican into oblivion ,i will be laughing like a mad man
i pray to the virgin mary to jesus christ and to god whats the harm in that ...like he said mary prays with us and i want mary praying for me as well i dont see anything wrong in honering mary and what she did :)
@nallelyarias19 Ultimately it's idolatry. Pope to saints to Mary to Jesus. No, only to Jesus, Solus Christus. Repent of your idolatry. Mary doesn't answer prayers nor does she hear them.
ill prove him wrong as fast as i can first thing we are nobody to be summoning the people who left but christ who is still with us k dontbring this fake apparations there the devils the devil can do that as well but the devil cannot rebuke the devil we believe mary existed and she is blessed but let her rest in heaven with her son right
"This Virgin Mother of the Only-begotten of God, is called Mary, worthy of God, immaculate of the immaculate, one of the one." Origen, Homily 1(A.D. 244).
@StAugustine79 See my debate with bingolly1 where I discuss that quote. The original word Origen used there just means pure. However, him calling Mary pure or immaculate says nothing about WHEN she was made pure - if it was at the first instance of conception preserved totally from original sin (immaculate conception), while still in the womb, or at the time of Christ. That quote doesn't tell us. And there is other material from Origen to refute the immaculate conception belief.
Mary is not a mediator, but a special intercessor. Christ is the path to salvation, but makes the saints a part of His mystical body able to appeal to Christ on behalf of believers. 1 Cor. 3:9 - God invites us to participate in Christ's work because we are God's "fellow workers" and one family in the body of Christ. God wants His children to participate. The phrase used to describe "fellow workers" is "sunergoi," which literally means synergists, or cooperators with God in salvific matters.
It is the catholic church which calls Mary a "co" redemptrix!
No scripture, no disciple, and not even Jesus stated this. Only Greek pagan converts came up with this!
Catholic faith is the pagan distortion of Christianity! Catholicism takes its dogma from Greek mythology and other pagan religions. May the great whore(the vatican per the bible) burn in the fire in which it sends people to though pagan worship and idolatry.
John 2:3 - this is a very signifcant verse in Scripture. As our mother, Mary tells all of us to do whatever Jesus tells us. Further, Mary's intercession at the marriage feast in Cana triggers Jesus' ministry and a foreshadowing of the Eucharistic celebration of the Lamb. This celebration unites all believers into one famiy through the marriage of divinity and humanity.
Any theological understanding of Mary's role in salvation as the Ark of the New Covenant can and is never separated from Christ. Luke 1:28 - the phrase "full of grace" is translated from the Greek word "kecharitomene." This is a unique title given to Mary, and suggests a perfection of grace from a past event. Mary is not just "highly favored." She has been perfected in grace by God in bearing Christ our Savior.
And he added (to enter Eternal life viz; Paradise), "Keep God's Commandments." (meaning: Do whatever God commands you to do and avoid that which He forbades you from doing.) In anutshell : To have the correct Faith of God and do Righteous works - That's the ticket to Paradise.
"The son does not bear the iniquity of the father neither the father bear the iniquity of the son." All child are born sinless ! Jesus said," Hear O Children of Israel, Your Lord Our God is One Lord." (meaning: To have the correct faith and belief that there is only One God - yours and mine. Thus ascribing no partner unto Him).
I find it funny that the verses he reads out of Luke at the very beginning, Mary claims to need a Savior. Now maybe I am wrong, but why would a sinless human need a Savior? Not to mention the fact that if Mary was perfect in order for Christ to be sinless, then Mary's mother would have had to be perfect and so on and so forth. Finally Mary had many children, two of whom(James and John) wrote a book of the New Testament.
The catholic said Jesus got His blood from mary? That's a lie, it's the Father that fertilizes the egg, and that is when blood develops....That is why we are son's and daughters of Adam..and needed a new Adam..hence Christ, because He received his blood from his Father..Mary was a sinner and a daughter of Adam too and needed a saviour also, which she stated. That's why you won't find RC teachings in the Bible..they are made up.
Catholic teaching on the Bible is messed up!!!!!!!!!!!! they go beyond truth to support their beliefs....Catholics please turn to Christ, He is all you need.
@KeithTruth Wrong, the Virgin Mary is not based on Isis or anything of the sort. The earliest written "Mariolatry" within Christianity goes back to St.Iraneaus who wrote that Mary regained through obedience what Eve lost through disobedience. Iraneaus was a disciple of Polycarp, who also referred to Mary as the Blessed Virgin. Polycarp was a disciple of the apostle John, who cared for Mary in her old age.
@BloodOfRayne Irenaeus didn't say that Mary being the new eve because of obedience meant she had an immaculate conception, that's something you guys read in. Obedience doesn't equal immaculate conception. Irenaeus calling Mary blessed is nothing special. And no where does Irenaeus even begin to call Mary co-mediatrix, co-redeemer, Assumed, queen of heaven, mother of God, etc. Irenaeus was no romanist. J.N.D. kelly notes: "Irenaeus...recalled occasions on which...she had earned her Son’s rebuke."
You stated "calling Mary blessed is nothing special".
I would disagree with that on the grounds that Mary was chosen by G-d. She found grace that no other woman on earth had. Why exactly G-d picked her I do not know. She was special to G-d!
Everything else you are spot on! mariology is satanic, it takes the focus away from Jesus as our savior.
Sola Scriptura, Scriptura Sola!!! Please keep these videos up. G-d Bless.
@BloodOfRayne He allowed His Son to be tortured and killed by normal sinners... Yes, not a problem for Messiah to have been brought into this world by one. His sinless nature came from G-d, not Miryam.
@BloodOfRayne Wait a minute!!!! How exactly did Mary "regain" what was lost? When it was Jesus that died on the cross! It is heresy what you say. Because it was Jesus who did pay. The scriptures are silent about mariology. I do believe you owe Jesus an apology. You people worship idols and pray to false gods. But you and Christianity are at odds. "Thou shalt not make thee any graven image" That includes Mary as the idol of your village.
@BloodOfRayne Irenaeus saying Mary was the new eve doesn't mean he worshiped Mary, believed in the Assumption, the immaculate conception (since she could have been sanctified while in the womb r at the time of Christ as other fathers believed), co-mediatrix, co-redeemer, queen of heaven etc. You read too much pagan roman falsehood into Irenaeus' words and you assume that everything in Irenaeus' theology was in Polycarp's which is easily refutable.
Mary should never be a mediator for the Mediator of sin. and the catholic in this debate seems to say that Jesus wouldn't have existed without Mary, I'm sorry but Jesus is the living word of god/Yahweh and existed before she did, he existed in the beginning as the word the word was with god and the word WAS god and is god. So no I will not pay extra respects to her where they are not due as a mediator over that of my messiah Jesus the Christ.
Those who do not have Mary as their Mother do not have God as their father I DO HOPE/PRAY you guys will understand this because this is not revealed to everyone. Also you cannot perfectly know Jesus without Her as well if you want to know more of what I am talking about please read True Devotion to Mary by St. Louis de Montfort (btw i will not respond to anyone who responds to me so don't bother, I know many will fight me on this)
Catholic sound really good when they twist the scriptures. The strongest pagan religion that is leading us to one world religion. See the pope embraced all religions(ecumenical) today. Christ did all the saving and salvation is a gift from God. People read your bible and not just listen to your Pope and priest.
@NLT31 The Roman religion was not around when the Canon was made. That's why most of your doctrines can;t be found in early church history. The eastern orthodox claim to have established the canon - so you have to establish a lot before you can go running around with this bold nonsense
These two guys are a waste of time! Jesus was born without sin simply by the immaculate conception. They are preaching pagan dogma that was created later.
@onemarktwoyou How is James White a waste of time when he is saying Jesus was born without sin and not Mary? If you were on this show in the debate and you merely said what you said in your comment without making argumentation and refuting your opponent with evidence most people would say that watching you would be a waste of time.
I agree in general with 99% of Mr. White states in most matters. But where did he explain why Mary had sin and Jesus birth was without it. What he does state about the Vatican (the great whore) is correct and he does so with more tact than I. The truth is I have no real like for him, mainly because of his great like for himself. I do admire his passion for scripture.
Any brain washed catholic can say what ever makes them feel good about their doctrins, that doesn't matter to me. What matters is that jesus came and died so i can have life eternal, all this watering down of the redemptive power of christ makes me puke. To think that the creature is actually as important as the creator, is just crazy.
its all about christ, yes, mary gave birth to him but it ends there, thats all she did. she has nothing to do with redemption, that was planned for the begining.
Wow john whites ending statement is a completely false explanation of the catholic churches position on devotion to marry. Catholics don't give their souls to marry and the term mediator is used differently by both james and robert. A catholic trusts in the sufficiency of christ for his work on the cross AS their salvation. However we entrust our salvation to marry for her to pray and desire and advocate our salvation to christ. Of course this gets into works vs faith justification etc.
You know Jesus had a lot to say about His Father but nothing about Mary, Jesus never even called her mother He only called her woman, if she would had been the mother of God He would have had as much to say about His mother as He did His Father.
Should we just contemplate upon the second, third and fourth commandments. I mean, both Catholic and Christian Bibles have it. Do they not say do not worship ANYONE but God himself, including mary, clear enough???
@miraclue Catholics do not worship marry but hold her in high regard. This issues goes back to the greek translation of Latria and Dulia which is the distinction between worship and honor. We worship Christ alone for he is the only way that we are saved but honor marry, other saints, and martyrs. If you hold any of the apostles in high regard then that is dulia, which is what we give marry and other saints. But worship is alone reserved and only for God.
The point is, All this arogance isn't biblical. Where in the entire new testament do we ever see anyone honoring mary as any Thing here you hear this priest calling her. they call her mediatrix, when the word says there is only one mediator between God and man, the man christ Jesus. Only one. For this prist to say other wise, is lie and blasphamey
@beedip84 He is not a priest and how do you explain moses as being a mediator which was discussed in the debate, or the witnessing of a christian to a non christian, that is being a mediator to christ, There is only one mediator to God by salvation which is christ, however marry was the mediator to christ by her birthing him. If you want to use the term mediator specifically for salvation then Christ is that only mediator and no Catholic will argue that. Mediator is used ambiguously in the vid
They actually thing that Mary has some important part in Salvation, i say nonsence. Had mary rejected the will of God when the angel visited her, i am certain, God would of raised up someone else to do it. After the Birth of christ Had marry, fall into sin and died in that state she was hell bound, just as any other normal person. Mary isn't the mother of God, God is the beggining and the end there is to beggining to him. She isn't any queen of heaven. What hog wash!
@beedip84 Of course she has an important part in salvation because God chose her to bare christ. Marry is the mother of God incarnate as man but not of God as Alpha and Omega, If marry wasn't important to the plan of our salvation then God would not have chosen her and if God chose someone else they would have been equally as important as marry. We are not saved by marry but through Christ However God decided to give us Christ through marry which makes her important to the plan of salvation
@Rockstar6111 Once more you are missing my point. Marry isn't a mediator for anyone, she is DEAD.
But yet, you pray, to her to pray for your sins, ho lame is that? There isn't even any biblical doctrine that states that we should prayer to the dead, that's paganism in christianity. It's simple, none of the deciples prayed to her for their sins. And to crown the whole matter, the word states that there is only one mediator between God and man, the man christ Jesus. you have a blessed day.
@beedip84 No, the bible says there is only one mediator between man and God WHO RECONCILES US TO HIM. Jesus reconciles all of mankind to God and is the only mediator who does so. And There is biblical proof for prayer for the dead in 2 Maccabbes of the Old testament, which was in the first cannonized bible, and was only removed after Martin Luther's objections. Marry is the mediator by which God entered the world through flesh.
@Rockstar6111 Yeah i read your so called inspired apocrypha books, who says you can prayer for the dead and alms me be given for sins and the gal or the fish fro blindness and evil spirits, and God helped people to lie, ohh also the fall of babylon in your apocrypha books is historically incorrect among with other things that controdicts the rest of the scriptures. martin took it out, really? why? indulgances was highly recommended by your church as well. so we can now pay to gain heaven right?
@beedip84First, Indulgances are granted for many things, The idea that they are only bought is historically false. In 1392, more than a century before Martin Luther published the 95 Theses, Pope Boniface IX wrote to the Bishop of Ferrara condemning the practice of CERTAIN members of religious orders who FALSELY claimed that they were authorized by the pope to forgive all sorts of sins and exacted money from them.Why, because only some abused them,The church never highly recommended buying them.
@Rockstar6111 So you are admitting that the church recommended buying them but not highly? Just the fact that such a doctrine exists in your sect says alot. but i am tired of going around in circles, so lets just drop the whole charade. What i have studied is clear that the church gave them autorization to sell em. Wether highly or not they did. But i know you know now that salvation is a thing that no money can't buy. thank you my friend and have a nice day.
@eqwel the same could be said about james white and solo scriptura. The bible is a book that can be interpretted by anyone, thats how we have 3000 different denominations.So which is right? Christ intended one church and entrusted it to peter which was the first pope of the Catholic church. Without an authority like the lineage of the pope, began by christ through peter, then anyone could take the bible, Which was compiled and given to us by the catholic church, an interpret it as they desire.
@Rockstar6111 This is a reply of a man who doesn't know the word of God and the Word of God. Jesus never entrusted the Church into any human hands. Jesus Said when I go I will send you the Holy Spirit to be with you forever. Gifts of the Spirit are not given to Denominations they are given to individuals. Haven't you read Corinthians? Are all the pharisees saved. But God chose Paul out of all his denomination and Pharisees and people. Petros means pebble. Jesus said upon Petra=Jesus Continued
@eqwel (Matt. 16:18). By giving Peter the keys of authority (Matt. 16:19), Jesus appointed Peter as the chief steward over His earthly kingdom (cf. Isaiah. 22:19-22). Jesus also charged Peter to be the source of strength for the rest of the apostles (Luke 22:32) and the earthly shepherd of Jesus' flock (John 21:15-17). Jesus further gave Peter, and the apostles and elders in union with him, the power to bind and loose in heaven what they bound and loosed on earth. (Matt. 16:19; 18:18).
@Rockstar6111 Read the Greek Text. Jesus told Peter: And I say also unto thee, That thou art Petros, and upon this Petra I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Matt 7:25. He was never talking about Peter, he was talking about himself. Otherwise why would Jesus have to send us the Holy Spirit. Gal_4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Just look up the word Spirit. You will change
@StudioLPSprodsTV Dont you know the Bible was first compiled by the Catholic church and first declared the word of God at the Council of Trent. The bible is a Catholic book. Without the church, 1 Timothy 3:15 The church is the pillar and ground of the truth., You wouldn't have a bible no matter if its the post reformation version or not. So Jesus Christ + Bible (which was given by the church)= religion. Only Jesus = God..... Not Jesus + the bible
this is bullshit. mary has sin. It's the father who is responsible for the supply of the blood. Whatever the gigi speaks, he spoke trash. Straight to your face gigi el stupido
@strongyang The catholic church is the first true original church began by christ through peter, So if its guilty of being a cult it is only guilty of being the Cult of Jesus Christ, and thats the church i wanna go to, not the Lutheran, Calvin, or etc.
I HAVE TO SAY CHRISTIANS ARE LIKE CATHOLICS YES JESUS WAS ON THE CROSS SO WE DONT NEED A MEDIATOR. BUT ALSO HE WASNT GOD HOWEVER LIKE ALL CATHOLICS ESP IN THE MIDDLE EAST WILL BURN. if they dont repent now also christians need to wake up jesus wasn't god but had god in him as we do all of us. but Jesus was our mediator and none is needed its why you pray in his name but not to him case closed
so if the holy spirit kept marry from sinning because that would have contaminated Jesus through birth with her sin, that would mean that her mother and father and there mothers and fathers would have also been sin free so that she wouldn't have been contaminated at birth? but I thought Jesus was the only person to ever live sin free? 1 Peter 2:22 22 “He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his mouth.”
Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
I did a follow up question after that, I don't know if you answered it. But I'll ask again to make sure. I wasn't raising the issue of Catholicism at all. I was asking because protestant groups have different takes on this doctrine, so I just wanted to know what your view was. But very simply, my question was "do u believe that when you eat the eucharist you are truly and substantially partaking of the body and blood of Jesus and that by doing so you have eternal life?"
@elchapito3 My answer was no I do not believe you substantially partake in the literal body and blood of Jesus but it is a metaphorical way to honor Jesus in a symbolic way.
I appreciate your reply. But does it scare you that reformer John Calvin disagrees with you? He says: "I freely accept whatever can be made to express the True and Substantial partaking of the Body and Blood of the Lord, which is shown to believers under the sacred symbols of the Supper - and so to express it that they may be understood not to receive it solely by imagination or understanding of mind, but to enjoy the thing itself as nourishment of Eternal Life"
@elchapito3 Moreover, even if Calvin held to transubstantiation, which he clearly didn't and wrote against, it wouldn't matter to Calvinists because we do not call ourselves Calvinists because we hold to all of his theology, we call ourselves Calvinists because we agree with soteriological points like depravity, election, grace and perseverence. Its called Calvinism, not because people submit to him, but because he became the most well known reformer to hold to these soterilogical views.
I understand that you don't follow everything John Calvin says. But Calvin also believed in the perpetual Virginity of Mary, Infant Baptism, the Sacraments, that Baptism saves you, ect. That means he got all this wrong. So if he could get all these doctrines wrong, then don't you think its possible he got some of his Grace theology wrong? I mean, we put so much trust and faith on certain individuals, but we dont know for sure if they are right. That is shaky ground for me.
@elchapito3 He never taught baptism saved people. To answer you, yes Calvin was wrong on IB, eschatology, the virginity of Mary etc, but there's no human on earth with infallible interpretation on every subject. Question: what does Scripture teach and does it promote God's sovereignty? Is Calvinist soteriology clearly Scriptural? Yes. Him being wrong on the virginity of Mary or infant baptism doesn't disqualify reformed soteriology. Thats the problem of induction fallacy. What do you believe?
@elchapito3 Calvinist soteriological principles, which are so Scriptural and were widely picked up by thousands of reformers, can be found in the 1st to 5th century early church father writings as demonstrated in Dr. John Gill's work "The Cause of God and Truth." Therefore, nothing hinges on the man Calvin, say what you will about him. I can call myself a 4 point Biblicist or a 4 point early church fatherist, or 4 point Spurgeonist. Calvinists usually don't read Calvins writings at all
I would consider myself a Christian because I believe in the Bible, Jesus died for my sins and salvation by Faith. My problem is that I don't know which Theology to go by. My point is that men are not infallible, they make mistakes, including Calvin. That's why I'm suspicious to accept any of His views on Grace. You appeal to the Church Fathers, Scholars, etc. I would say that the majority can be wrong. Remember, the gate is Narrow for salvation but its wide for destruction.
@elchapito3 No one is asking you to accept one man's theology. If that was the basis that would be questionable. However, the realization that men are born totally depraved and unable to believe in the Gospel or do what we are commanded without divine assistance is from Jesus, Paul, Ambrose, Augustine, Wycliff, Huss, Luther, Calvin, Whitefield, Spurgeon, Macarthur, Piper, millions in between and millions presently. This is narrow but present in history, the majority reject this truth
@elchapito3 You said you believe Jesus died for your sin and salvation is by faith. If I were to press you to define faith and talk about mans freedom, ability and how grace works you would give me definitions that have come to the church from history, systematized forumations of these things since we have had 2000 to think about them. Now, if your beliefs are based on free will and line up with Jacobus Arminius and then I pointed out some flaws in his other thinking would you appreciate that?
Like I said Keith, I don't belong to any theological camp so I can't give you a definitive answer about what my views are on man's freedom, total depravity, etc. I'm still trying to figure that out. But either way, if I espouse man's free will, I will be called a heretic. But if I espouse God's predestination without free will, I will also be called a heretic. So im sort of in this "limbo" "middle stage" of confusion in theology, if you will. Its very difficult to be 100% sure.
@elchapito3 You're misreading the quote - he is saying that accepting the sacrifice by faith is the substantial partaking and the echarist is the later symbolic expression of that. Therefore, he further states that the bread and wine are not the literal body and blood of Jesus but, "the bread and the wine are visible signs, which represent to us the body and blood." Signs and representations - not the literal body and blood, please try to understand quotes before believing propaganda about them.
Granted, he did not hold to the same view as catholics and orthodox on the eucharist but, nevertheless, he still held to a real presence and not a "symbolic" presence. He even says "Moreover, I am NOT SATISFIED with those persons who, recognizing that we have some communion with Christ, when they would show us what it is, make us partakers of the Spirit ONLY, omitting mention of Flesh and Blood" (Ibid., p. 1366-1367). So he didnt believe it was symbolic "spirit" only.
hey keith do u believe that when you eat the eucharist you are truly and substantially partaking of the body and blood of Jesus and that by doing so you have eternal life?
@elchapito3 Thats not the Catholic position as defined by them in council. They teach that when you eat the bread and drink the wine you are eating the body, blood, soul, spirit and deity of Jesus. No I do not believe such a thing. When we eat its a metaphorical symbolic way to honor Jesus and a recognition that we have accepted his saving work on the cross. People without eyes or ears have perverted this though and ritualized salvation.
I wasn't raising the issue of catholicism at all. My question was simply this "do u believe that when you eat the eucharist you are truly and substantially partaking of the body and blood of Jesus and that by doing so you have eternal life?" Yes or No. Thanks
When Christ died on the Cross and said "it is done" he meant the gates are now open to those who will prove their love to him by suffering as he suffered through forgiving those you hate, giving charity to those you despise, and understanding that you are humble! Now listen to this... if you think you are saved through the crucifixion and nothing else! Then Christs bread of life means nothing to you, does it?
I've decided to love my Catholic bro's and sis's aside from trying to convert their understanding... because I've seen the fruitlessness of it, and how it engenders contention... I would rather respectfully agree to disagree.
Many people may be surprised that Muslims love Mary,
The nineteenth chapter of the Quran is named after her, Mariam. Mariam means Mary in Arabic. The third chapter in the Quran is named after her father, Imran. Chapters Mariam and Imran are among the most beautiful chapters in the Quran. An authentic Haddith states that the Prophet said,(Many men reached the level of perfection, but no woman reached such a level except Mary, the daughter of Imran and Asia, the wife of Pharaoh.) (Bukhari 4.643)
1. Where in the Bible does it say that Mary knew Jesus better than anyone else?
2. Just because the LORD gave her favor by birthing Jesus, this does not mean I should venerate her. Once again, GOD hasn't told me to do this, so why should I follow man's example?
3. Does the verses that he's quoting from the Catholic Bible line up with the King James Bible, or even the Torah for that matter? The Bible confirms itself over & over, does the Catholic Bible do the same?
I guess people don't realize that Blessed Mary is the Ark of the New Covenant. To show veneration (Cultus Hyperduliæ) to Blessed Mary is not a sin. Catholics show veneration and honor to the Angels & saints (Cultus duliæ) and to Blessed Mary, though give Worship and Adoration (Cultus Latriæ) to God alone.
It is quite apparent that many fail to realize that God the Father was the very first to call Mary "Blessed"(Lk. i. 28) and God the Holy Ghost was the second.(Lk. i. 41-42).
Dr Fastiggi as well as the Pagaan Roman Catholic Church are not of GOD. They worship Mary which means that they have not given their lives to Jesus but have given their lives to Mary. They therefor do not have the Holy Spirit within them and are blinded from truth and believe the lie.
John 8:4 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
"...for many shall be deceived." Jesus Christ is all that's required. Not Mary, not the pope (so-called "Holy Father"), not anything but Jesus. Sure, listen to Mary when she says "do whatever he tells you" & paul when he says "follow christ", yeah! Let christ be the judge. I judge no-one & no-one can judge me but I test the spirits & the spirit of CATHOLICISM FAILS.
Fastiggi went to Fordham Jesuit University. Thats all I need to know about that guy. The Jesuit University system might as well be Harry Potters, Hogswarth. This is the system of schools that, while compartmentalized to segregate the general public, is actually the learning system to educate the sons and daughters of Jesuits and high level Catholics and Wiccans. into the occult knowledge of the Babylonian Wiccan Sun and nature worshiping elite and its hierarchy which controls EVERY GOVERNMENT!
38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[a] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[a] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
interesting this catholic wants us to be a connect of eve and mary based on one word .... women what about other occasion where he says women is it the same situation .... check john 4 :7and 17and 22, and 8 : 3, 9 and 10
i guess these times where women is used by the writer and jesus it is an indication of the connection of a women to eve
Its Clear Fastiggi does not know the Bible and He does not believe in scripture alone???? woooh He rather Believe in other writings that are not derived from the Bible.
He says Dr White's Theology comes from a "few little passages"? notice how he belittles the Word of God.
This is the mixture of truth with lies for the sore purpose of deceiving people.
It's all we can really do to keep ourselves from temptation. It's so hard to live beside ignorant people determined to stick with the dogma that they're wrapped up in that's choking them down when we love them & know they want to be in Christ. Really hard when we're trying to help them be free 'coz we know they want it deep down. They're so deceived. The line has been drawn & it's not far from us now. God bless the catholics, they really need it.
@honeybarger The Bible teaches that the word of God is contained in Sacred Oral Tradition and the Sacred Scriptures not through Sacred Scripture alone (2 Tim 2:15, 2 Tim 3:16, 1 Cor 11: 2). Mankind has been illiterate for the majority of human history that is why God passed down truths predominantly through Sacred Oral Tradition. Luke 10:16, Romans 10:14. Jesus and the Apostles did not believe in scripture alone. The New Testament was not even written when they started preaching.
@Heb59, The old testament books were already all there in Jesus time, that's what they read in those days(BC). Jesus quoted from the Old testament Bible he's defense to the devils temptation came from the Word alone, Not from sacred Oral Tradition...
You see the whole Roman Catholic "thing" was made for pagans, why I say that, because it was made with some truth mixed with paganism in a deceitful way meant to accommodate pagans.
@honeybarger The Old Testament was not written over night. Truths were passed down through Sacred Oral Tradition first before any Sacrded Scripture could be recoreded. The books in the Bible are part of Tradition. If you look at the Bible there are no authors listed there. We trust Sacred Oral Tradition to tell us the Bible is the word of God. The titles you see in there were not part of the manuscripts. It was added in there because tradition taught it was written by Paul, John, etc...
@honeybarger I do not agree that the Roman Catholic "thing" is a mix of paganism. But for arguments sake let's say it was a mix of paganism, that means there must have been a church as ancient as the Catholic Church but was not mixed with paganism. Where is this church now because that is the church i want to join?
@Heb59 Of course you can. God is omnipotent, But if you truthfully receive him he will give you the gift of the Holy Spirit which will guide you unto all truths.
Your eyes will be opened to see the wrongs you were not able to see when you did not have the Spirit of God.
wow james white looks really young here. Im guessing early 80's... I think it is crazy to pray to any saints, idols, or mary. Some one had to be Jesus' earthly mother, she was just a normal women who tried to live right like everyone else.
@RidgeofEternity A pastor is not the mediator of Grace or Salvation. Only Jesus alone is that mediator.it just what Dr. Jame White brought up about Moses being a "Mediator" but it is the mediation of the old covenant. and I believe pastors are leaders for the church and servants of God. like the appointed apostles were.
@RidgeofEternity that would be going too far. According to the bible Mary was a vessel for giving birth the son of God and just being an example of a good servant to God which is a great blessing. that is all she was. she was not one of the apostles to lead the church, she was never appointed for that. there is nothing historical of the account of her doing so, that is a misconception if the church is giving her that position.
@megaman90 What I said was an explanation on Mary's function. Mary is the mother of Jesus Christ by the Grace given to her by God above, this is obvious. But what you can't say is "this is not true!" because to say that would be the rejection of something unknown, which is wrong.
Even with what you said doesn't tell me you know much about this. John 19:26-27 speaks of Jesus beholding Mary as the mother of a disciple. This is not to argue her spiritual value, but that she 'was' something else.
Great Upload. Dr White quotes nothing but the bible and Dr. Fastiggi is willing to quote everything except it. Fastiggi doesnt even attempt to quote the bible for his belief which I find disturbing. He quotes these past Preachers such as Martin Luther as if they are on par with scriptures in the bible. Thats like some one quoting TD Jakes 300 years in the future and referencing him as a saint and his words have as much weight as the Disciple Luke.Dr White .Beware of Non Biblical Dogma.
I have to say that it turned my stomach to hear such unbiblical justifications for creating this false idol of "Mary". Dr. Fastgiggi's arguments could have been summed up as follows: "We think Jesus would honor His mother thusly."
However, as he said earlier, Mary's words were to do what Jesus commanded (John 2:5). And Jesus commanded that we give every brother and sister in the Lord the same honor we would give His mother, nothing more (Matthew 12:50). That is good enough for me.
@Ainesis3 Why would Jesus even HAVE to say "I would honor my Mother thusly"? She was the Mother of the Son of God! Could it not just be common sense to revere (not idolize) her! Why do you Protestants always say "if it ain't in the Bible, it ain't true!" Where does it say in the Bible that the Bible is the only authority? Nowhere!
I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel.
We are not lean to our own understanding. Yet, RCC mariology is based in what you call the "common sense" of man where Scripture is silent. That's a HUGE red flag. The contradiction with Scripture they pose is yet another.
We DO know that oral tradition NEVER contradicts written tradition for they are both inspired by the same Spirit (2 Thess. 2:15). God never calls us to determine worship by "common sense" but by the Spirit and His truth. Anything else is soulish and in lies.
@BloodOfRayne CORRECTION: "I will put enmity between you & the woman, & between your offspring & her offspring. He will pound your head, & you will bite his heel." From the Torah, verse 15, chapter 3-bereishis/genesis
So you see, it was written that it was eve's offspring that would pound the serpents head, & whose heel the serpent would bruise.Yes we should have respect for Mary but to idolize as the mother of God? You're right, NO! We shouldn't.This is vid isvain contention over the obvious.
@sthnwatch You haven't answered the question? Are you a Sola Scriptura guy? I have to say that if you are a true atheist, why do you even give a fuck? Are you telling me that you are such a sad lonely atheist that you spend your time mocking a God don't believe in just because your atheist belief isn't getting you laid? Is that it?
@BloodOfRayne I didn't realize you'd asked me anything. I was just correcting your attempt at quoting scripture. I am a follower of Christ. You couldn't have got your impression of me more wrong. Your attitude is blinding you somewhat & you simply want to put me down or insult me or somehow hurt me. Whatever it is, you should take a look at yourself & just check that you're seeing things clearly, for your own sake my friend. God bless you. Peace.
@BloodOfRayne We dont say that if it aint in the Bible is not true. The Bible does not mention everything in the world, so to say that is stupid. The thing we believe is in the authority of the Bible Alone. The Bible does not mention nor gives the concept of "veneration". ""if it ain't in the Bible, it ain't true!" Where does it say in the Bible that the Bible is the only authority? Nowhere! It gives the understanding that you are admitting it is not Scripture....
@johnpolanco18 You never understood! There is no Bible alone! Christ himself sent the first disciples to preach and they wrote many books after him to be followed! The Holy Ghost gave them the power to go out and preach and to retain or forgive sins in his name! The Bible is the book of truth but not the only book! The saints wrote many books and Christ told us to follow them in their teachings! Jesus said this in the New Testament! They that confess, shall be confessed!
@BloodOfRayne That is a problem with Catholics.They try to make it seem as if all the Saints agreed to everything they said. It is obvious that the church fathers disagreed with each other in many different levels. Melito of Sardis, Athanasius, Jerome, Hilary of Poitiers, Cyril of Jerusalem all rejected the apocrypha, yet Catholics lie about saying " we were all in agreement." T
everytime fastiggi opened his mouth... all i heard is heresy upon heresy.
Erap1muzik 2 weeks ago
This bizarre adoration of Mary has to do with the worship of isis in the early church carried over by newly converted ex pagans . They just couldn't let go of the old religion and it still persists to this day . Easter is just as pagan and so is Xmas .
mtross70 2 weeks ago
As Dr White described at 25:08, I Tim says it all. With this scripture, this debate is less than a minute long, but far be it for a catholic to cave in under pressure of the truth.
I Tim 2:5-6
For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
So much for Mary being a mediatrix or whatever they call her.
Live and learn.....................
.................or else.
cr500blur 2 weeks ago
The catholic scholar puts on a good show and is very believable, but....when the comparison is made to what he says and what actually happens, there is a serious contrast. This difference is the same between words and action. Say one thing.....do another.
The bottom line?
Everything with the spiritual IS WHAT IT IS, and is not changed by a religion. God has His rules, and they are unchanging. John 14:6 says it all...no if's and's or but's. No adding Mary, no slipping by the rules.
EOS
cr500blur 2 weeks ago
Anyone who listens to this can't stay a catholic unless they enjoy being in a cult.
All traditions that stand the rc church alone is paganism.
onemarktwoyou 3 weeks ago
Mary was a wonderful woman, but she is not our Mediator or Redeemer...the catholic church elevate her to a position she has no business being in, it is Jesus and not Mary...who is key in our salvation because He and only He washed us of our sins, and only He has the power to hear our prayers and answer them, not Mary or John...Peter and Paul...it was and always will be all about Jesus Christ.
jojjimbo 4 weeks ago 2
This might be a legitimate video and a fair debate if they had gotten an actual Catholic to argue the Marian doctrine. From the first words he speaks, he is wrong about Catholic theology (the feast of Our Lady of Lourdes is February 11). This video is staged and it does a disservice to ecumenism.
enmwr1227 1 month ago
Dr. Fastigi sound as though Mary had authority over God, the world have salvation only becasue Mary allow it to happen
andrewthao17 1 month ago
I think if the need for a virgin birth of Mary in order for Christ to be sinless to be true there would have to be an unbroken line of virgin births going all the way back to Eve.
seeqr9 1 month ago
The prayer to Mary is disgusting.
blakodeel 1 month ago
"edificies of theology built on little tiny statements found in scripture" says White...you mean like the Trinity? a doctrine shared by both Catholics & Protestants? :P
kyzersoze74 2 months ago 3
@kyzersoze74 No Christian who knows Scripture would ever say the deity and distinction in person-hood between the 3 is only built on a few tiny statements. It flows from every page of Scripture.
KeithTruth 2 months ago
@kyzersoze74 Literally found every where in the new testament
blakodeel 1 month ago
You people are all brainwashed
bonnevie9 2 months ago
francis of assisi ,as in san francisco ,yeah right ,we know who lives there ,and in assissi the pope said muslims and everyone else including them were praying to the same god ,small "g" intended ,why is everything that has either francis or assissi involved in it is allways utter rebellion against the the allmighty GOD
roxfoot 2 months ago
considering what lying ,robbing ,murdering ,child molesting heathen the people of the vatican are it is well possible that they faked miracles to get people on side ,i would like to investigate at least one case and not just go on hearsay of a load of proven heritics ,when GOD smash's the vatican into oblivion ,i will be laughing like a mad man
roxfoot 2 months ago
i pray to the virgin mary to jesus christ and to god whats the harm in that ...like he said mary prays with us and i want mary praying for me as well i dont see anything wrong in honering mary and what she did :)
nallelyarias19 2 months ago
@nallelyarias19 Ultimately it's idolatry. Pope to saints to Mary to Jesus. No, only to Jesus, Solus Christus. Repent of your idolatry. Mary doesn't answer prayers nor does she hear them.
blakodeel 1 month ago
ill prove him wrong as fast as i can first thing we are nobody to be summoning the people who left but christ who is still with us k dontbring this fake apparations there the devils the devil can do that as well but the devil cannot rebuke the devil we believe mary existed and she is blessed but let her rest in heaven with her son right
gargolito34 2 months ago
Would have liked to have seen more of the Eastern Orthodox Marian doctrine in this debate.
brendos444 3 months ago
"This Virgin Mother of the Only-begotten of God, is called Mary, worthy of God, immaculate of the immaculate, one of the one." Origen, Homily 1(A.D. 244).
StAugustine79 3 months ago
@StAugustine79 See my debate with bingolly1 where I discuss that quote. The original word Origen used there just means pure. However, him calling Mary pure or immaculate says nothing about WHEN she was made pure - if it was at the first instance of conception preserved totally from original sin (immaculate conception), while still in the womb, or at the time of Christ. That quote doesn't tell us. And there is other material from Origen to refute the immaculate conception belief.
KeithTruth 3 months ago
Mary is not a mediator, but a special intercessor. Christ is the path to salvation, but makes the saints a part of His mystical body able to appeal to Christ on behalf of believers. 1 Cor. 3:9 - God invites us to participate in Christ's work because we are God's "fellow workers" and one family in the body of Christ. God wants His children to participate. The phrase used to describe "fellow workers" is "sunergoi," which literally means synergists, or cooperators with God in salvific matters.
StAugustine79 3 months ago
@StAugustine79
Clearly out of context(1cor.3:9)!
It is the catholic church which calls Mary a "co" redemptrix!
No scripture, no disciple, and not even Jesus stated this. Only Greek pagan converts came up with this!
Catholic faith is the pagan distortion of Christianity! Catholicism takes its dogma from Greek mythology and other pagan religions. May the great whore(the vatican per the bible) burn in the fire in which it sends people to though pagan worship and idolatry.
onemarktwoyou 3 months ago
John 2:3 - this is a very signifcant verse in Scripture. As our mother, Mary tells all of us to do whatever Jesus tells us. Further, Mary's intercession at the marriage feast in Cana triggers Jesus' ministry and a foreshadowing of the Eucharistic celebration of the Lamb. This celebration unites all believers into one famiy through the marriage of divinity and humanity.
StAugustine79 3 months ago
Any theological understanding of Mary's role in salvation as the Ark of the New Covenant can and is never separated from Christ. Luke 1:28 - the phrase "full of grace" is translated from the Greek word "kecharitomene." This is a unique title given to Mary, and suggests a perfection of grace from a past event. Mary is not just "highly favored." She has been perfected in grace by God in bearing Christ our Savior.
StAugustine79 3 months ago
If Jesus loves Mary, so do I.
Luke 1:46-55
New International Version (NIV)
Mary’s Song 46 And Mary said: “My soul glorifies the Lord 47 and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,
48 for he has been mindful of the humble state of his servant.
From now on all generations will call me blessed, 49 for the Mighty One has done great things for me— holy is his name.
DirigeNosDomine7 3 months ago
wow James has hair here.
Mrhawklanz 4 months ago
WASTE THE TIME BTW BOTH SIDE IS INFIDELL,BURN IN TO DEEB HELL FIRE,BOTH SIDE PEGANISM,CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHO WROTE THE BIBLE???
mustang73648 4 months ago
And he added (to enter Eternal life viz; Paradise), "Keep God's Commandments." (meaning: Do whatever God commands you to do and avoid that which He forbades you from doing.) In anutshell : To have the correct Faith of God and do Righteous works - That's the ticket to Paradise.
addeen7777 5 months ago
"The son does not bear the iniquity of the father neither the father bear the iniquity of the son." All child are born sinless ! Jesus said," Hear O Children of Israel, Your Lord Our God is One Lord." (meaning: To have the correct faith and belief that there is only One God - yours and mine. Thus ascribing no partner unto Him).
addeen7777 5 months ago
I find it funny that the verses he reads out of Luke at the very beginning, Mary claims to need a Savior. Now maybe I am wrong, but why would a sinless human need a Savior? Not to mention the fact that if Mary was perfect in order for Christ to be sinless, then Mary's mother would have had to be perfect and so on and so forth. Finally Mary had many children, two of whom(James and John) wrote a book of the New Testament.
Steelers2417 5 months ago
The catholic said Jesus got His blood from mary? That's a lie, it's the Father that fertilizes the egg, and that is when blood develops....That is why we are son's and daughters of Adam..and needed a new Adam..hence Christ, because He received his blood from his Father..Mary was a sinner and a daughter of Adam too and needed a saviour also, which she stated. That's why you won't find RC teachings in the Bible..they are made up.
shanana000 5 months ago
Catholic teaching on the Bible is messed up!!!!!!!!!!!! they go beyond truth to support their beliefs....Catholics please turn to Christ, He is all you need.
shanana000 5 months ago
clearly, james white has not understood Mary's role in our spiritual life. he insists on dancing boogie when the music is cha cha cha.
kaspakaspa 5 months ago
@kaspakaspa No I'm sorry friend. It is just that catholics confuse Mary with the pagan goddess Isis.
KeithTruth 5 months ago 6
@KeithTruth Wrong, the Virgin Mary is not based on Isis or anything of the sort. The earliest written "Mariolatry" within Christianity goes back to St.Iraneaus who wrote that Mary regained through obedience what Eve lost through disobedience. Iraneaus was a disciple of Polycarp, who also referred to Mary as the Blessed Virgin. Polycarp was a disciple of the apostle John, who cared for Mary in her old age.
BloodOfRayne 5 months ago
@BloodOfRayne Irenaeus didn't say that Mary being the new eve because of obedience meant she had an immaculate conception, that's something you guys read in. Obedience doesn't equal immaculate conception. Irenaeus calling Mary blessed is nothing special. And no where does Irenaeus even begin to call Mary co-mediatrix, co-redeemer, Assumed, queen of heaven, mother of God, etc. Irenaeus was no romanist. J.N.D. kelly notes: "Irenaeus...recalled occasions on which...she had earned her Son’s rebuke."
KeithTruth 5 months ago 3
@KeithTruth So basically, you believe that God allowed his Son to be born from a normal sinner?
BloodOfRayne 5 months ago
@BloodOfRayne I believe Scripture.
KeithTruth 5 months ago 7
@KeithTruth so basically im with you on this one keith
Brokerman87 4 months ago
@KeithTruth
You stated "calling Mary blessed is nothing special".
I would disagree with that on the grounds that Mary was chosen by G-d. She found grace that no other woman on earth had. Why exactly G-d picked her I do not know. She was special to G-d!
Everything else you are spot on! mariology is satanic, it takes the focus away from Jesus as our savior.
Sola Scriptura, Scriptura Sola!!! Please keep these videos up. G-d Bless.
onemarktwoyou 3 months ago
@onemarktwoyou In respect to Greek being called blessed is nothing special. All saints are called blessed etc. That is what I meant.
KeithTruth 3 months ago
@BloodOfRayne Yes, I do. The Bible clearly teaches this.
rightlydivide 5 months ago
@BloodOfRayne He allowed His Son to be tortured and killed by normal sinners... Yes, not a problem for Messiah to have been brought into this world by one. His sinless nature came from G-d, not Miryam.
Juhani139 3 months ago
onemarktwoyou 3 months ago
@BloodOfRayne Irenaeus saying Mary was the new eve doesn't mean he worshiped Mary, believed in the Assumption, the immaculate conception (since she could have been sanctified while in the womb r at the time of Christ as other fathers believed), co-mediatrix, co-redeemer, queen of heaven etc. You read too much pagan roman falsehood into Irenaeus' words and you assume that everything in Irenaeus' theology was in Polycarp's which is easily refutable.
KeithTruth 3 months ago
mary sinned un like jesus mary is no queen of heaven an catholics have roman pagan teachings
hubbanjesus 6 months ago
its clear catholics dont follow the bible
hubbanjesus 6 months ago
Mary should never be a mediator for the Mediator of sin. and the catholic in this debate seems to say that Jesus wouldn't have existed without Mary, I'm sorry but Jesus is the living word of god/Yahweh and existed before she did, he existed in the beginning as the word the word was with god and the word WAS god and is god. So no I will not pay extra respects to her where they are not due as a mediator over that of my messiah Jesus the Christ.
remieres 6 months ago
Those who do not have Mary as their Mother do not have God as their father I DO HOPE/PRAY you guys will understand this because this is not revealed to everyone. Also you cannot perfectly know Jesus without Her as well if you want to know more of what I am talking about please read True Devotion to Mary by St. Louis de Montfort (btw i will not respond to anyone who responds to me so don't bother, I know many will fight me on this)
TheThedragonwarrior 6 months ago
OWNED! The christian won this debate within his first 3 minutes of talking.
xoddie111 6 months ago
Catholic sound really good when they twist the scriptures. The strongest pagan religion that is leading us to one world religion. See the pope embraced all religions(ecumenical) today. Christ did all the saving and salvation is a gift from God. People read your bible and not just listen to your Pope and priest.
Jhadypreggie 6 months ago
@Jhadypreggie Catholics gave you the bible which you distorted to create a Christianity that suits you.
NLT31 6 months ago in playlist Islam, Catholicism, and Christianity
@NLT31 The Roman religion was not around when the Canon was made. That's why most of your doctrines can;t be found in early church history. The eastern orthodox claim to have established the canon - so you have to establish a lot before you can go running around with this bold nonsense
KeithTruth 6 months ago
These two guys are a waste of time! Jesus was born without sin simply by the immaculate conception. They are preaching pagan dogma that was created later.
onemarktwoyou 6 months ago
@onemarktwoyou How is James White a waste of time when he is saying Jesus was born without sin and not Mary? If you were on this show in the debate and you merely said what you said in your comment without making argumentation and refuting your opponent with evidence most people would say that watching you would be a waste of time.
KeithTruth 6 months ago
@KeithTruth
I agree in general with 99% of Mr. White states in most matters. But where did he explain why Mary had sin and Jesus birth was without it. What he does state about the Vatican (the great whore) is correct and he does so with more tact than I. The truth is I have no real like for him, mainly because of his great like for himself. I do admire his passion for scripture.
onemarktwoyou 6 months ago
Any brain washed catholic can say what ever makes them feel good about their doctrins, that doesn't matter to me. What matters is that jesus came and died so i can have life eternal, all this watering down of the redemptive power of christ makes me puke. To think that the creature is actually as important as the creator, is just crazy.
its all about christ, yes, mary gave birth to him but it ends there, thats all she did. she has nothing to do with redemption, that was planned for the begining.
beedip84 7 months ago
Go Catholics You are THE BEST!!
flyingpigsintutus1 7 months ago
Wow john whites ending statement is a completely false explanation of the catholic churches position on devotion to marry. Catholics don't give their souls to marry and the term mediator is used differently by both james and robert. A catholic trusts in the sufficiency of christ for his work on the cross AS their salvation. However we entrust our salvation to marry for her to pray and desire and advocate our salvation to christ. Of course this gets into works vs faith justification etc.
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youneekk 7 months ago
You know Jesus had a lot to say about His Father but nothing about Mary, Jesus never even called her mother He only called her woman, if she would had been the mother of God He would have had as much to say about His mother as He did His Father.
southernpreacher 8 months ago
Should we just contemplate upon the second, third and fourth commandments. I mean, both Catholic and Christian Bibles have it. Do they not say do not worship ANYONE but God himself, including mary, clear enough???
miraclue 9 months ago
@miraclue Catholics do not worship marry but hold her in high regard. This issues goes back to the greek translation of Latria and Dulia which is the distinction between worship and honor. We worship Christ alone for he is the only way that we are saved but honor marry, other saints, and martyrs. If you hold any of the apostles in high regard then that is dulia, which is what we give marry and other saints. But worship is alone reserved and only for God.
Rockstar6111 7 months ago
The point is, All this arogance isn't biblical. Where in the entire new testament do we ever see anyone honoring mary as any Thing here you hear this priest calling her. they call her mediatrix, when the word says there is only one mediator between God and man, the man christ Jesus. Only one. For this prist to say other wise, is lie and blasphamey
beedip84 9 months ago
@beedip84 He is not a priest and how do you explain moses as being a mediator which was discussed in the debate, or the witnessing of a christian to a non christian, that is being a mediator to christ, There is only one mediator to God by salvation which is christ, however marry was the mediator to christ by her birthing him. If you want to use the term mediator specifically for salvation then Christ is that only mediator and no Catholic will argue that. Mediator is used ambiguously in the vid
Rockstar6111 7 months ago
They actually thing that Mary has some important part in Salvation, i say nonsence. Had mary rejected the will of God when the angel visited her, i am certain, God would of raised up someone else to do it. After the Birth of christ Had marry, fall into sin and died in that state she was hell bound, just as any other normal person. Mary isn't the mother of God, God is the beggining and the end there is to beggining to him. She isn't any queen of heaven. What hog wash!
beedip84 9 months ago
@beedip84 Of course she has an important part in salvation because God chose her to bare christ. Marry is the mother of God incarnate as man but not of God as Alpha and Omega, If marry wasn't important to the plan of our salvation then God would not have chosen her and if God chose someone else they would have been equally as important as marry. We are not saved by marry but through Christ However God decided to give us Christ through marry which makes her important to the plan of salvation
Rockstar6111 7 months ago
@Rockstar6111 Once more you are missing my point. Marry isn't a mediator for anyone, she is DEAD.
But yet, you pray, to her to pray for your sins, ho lame is that? There isn't even any biblical doctrine that states that we should prayer to the dead, that's paganism in christianity. It's simple, none of the deciples prayed to her for their sins. And to crown the whole matter, the word states that there is only one mediator between God and man, the man christ Jesus. you have a blessed day.
beedip84 7 months ago
@beedip84 No, the bible says there is only one mediator between man and God WHO RECONCILES US TO HIM. Jesus reconciles all of mankind to God and is the only mediator who does so. And There is biblical proof for prayer for the dead in 2 Maccabbes of the Old testament, which was in the first cannonized bible, and was only removed after Martin Luther's objections. Marry is the mediator by which God entered the world through flesh.
Rockstar6111 6 months ago
@Rockstar6111 Yeah i read your so called inspired apocrypha books, who says you can prayer for the dead and alms me be given for sins and the gal or the fish fro blindness and evil spirits, and God helped people to lie, ohh also the fall of babylon in your apocrypha books is historically incorrect among with other things that controdicts the rest of the scriptures. martin took it out, really? why? indulgances was highly recommended by your church as well. so we can now pay to gain heaven right?
beedip84 6 months ago
@beedip84First, Indulgances are granted for many things, The idea that they are only bought is historically false. In 1392, more than a century before Martin Luther published the 95 Theses, Pope Boniface IX wrote to the Bishop of Ferrara condemning the practice of CERTAIN members of religious orders who FALSELY claimed that they were authorized by the pope to forgive all sorts of sins and exacted money from them.Why, because only some abused them,The church never highly recommended buying them.
Rockstar6111 6 months ago
@Rockstar6111 So you are admitting that the church recommended buying them but not highly? Just the fact that such a doctrine exists in your sect says alot. but i am tired of going around in circles, so lets just drop the whole charade. What i have studied is clear that the church gave them autorization to sell em. Wether highly or not they did. But i know you know now that salvation is a thing that no money can't buy. thank you my friend and have a nice day.
beedip84 6 months ago
this catholic man Dr. Robert Festiggi is fool.
eqwel 10 months ago
@eqwel the same could be said about james white and solo scriptura. The bible is a book that can be interpretted by anyone, thats how we have 3000 different denominations.So which is right? Christ intended one church and entrusted it to peter which was the first pope of the Catholic church. Without an authority like the lineage of the pope, began by christ through peter, then anyone could take the bible, Which was compiled and given to us by the catholic church, an interpret it as they desire.
Rockstar6111 7 months ago
@Rockstar6111 This is a reply of a man who doesn't know the word of God and the Word of God. Jesus never entrusted the Church into any human hands. Jesus Said when I go I will send you the Holy Spirit to be with you forever. Gifts of the Spirit are not given to Denominations they are given to individuals. Haven't you read Corinthians? Are all the pharisees saved. But God chose Paul out of all his denomination and Pharisees and people. Petros means pebble. Jesus said upon Petra=Jesus Continued
eqwel 7 months ago
@eqwel (Matt. 16:18). By giving Peter the keys of authority (Matt. 16:19), Jesus appointed Peter as the chief steward over His earthly kingdom (cf. Isaiah. 22:19-22). Jesus also charged Peter to be the source of strength for the rest of the apostles (Luke 22:32) and the earthly shepherd of Jesus' flock (John 21:15-17). Jesus further gave Peter, and the apostles and elders in union with him, the power to bind and loose in heaven what they bound and loosed on earth. (Matt. 16:19; 18:18).
Rockstar6111 7 months ago
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@Rockstar6111 Read the Greek Text. Jesus told Peter: And I say also unto thee, That thou art Petros, and upon this Petra I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Matt 7:25. He was never talking about Peter, he was talking about himself. Otherwise why would Jesus have to send us the Holy Spirit. Gal_4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Just look up the word Spirit. You will change
eqwel 7 months ago
this catholic man is fool
eqwel 10 months ago
The more confident people are always the ones who tells the truth. Christian is the truth, and will always be. Jesus Christ + Bible = God.
StudioLPSprodsTV 11 months ago
@StudioLPSprodsTV Dont you know the Bible was first compiled by the Catholic church and first declared the word of God at the Council of Trent. The bible is a Catholic book. Without the church, 1 Timothy 3:15 The church is the pillar and ground of the truth., You wouldn't have a bible no matter if its the post reformation version or not. So Jesus Christ + Bible (which was given by the church)= religion. Only Jesus = God..... Not Jesus + the bible
Rockstar6111 7 months ago
this is bullshit. mary has sin. It's the father who is responsible for the supply of the blood. Whatever the gigi speaks, he spoke trash. Straight to your face gigi el stupido
strongyang 11 months ago
catholic is a cult. The pope, purgatory, etc..
strongyang 11 months ago 6
@strongyang The catholic church is the first true original church began by christ through peter, So if its guilty of being a cult it is only guilty of being the Cult of Jesus Christ, and thats the church i wanna go to, not the Lutheran, Calvin, or etc.
Rockstar6111 7 months ago
I HAVE TO SAY CHRISTIANS ARE LIKE CATHOLICS YES JESUS WAS ON THE CROSS SO WE DONT NEED A MEDIATOR. BUT ALSO HE WASNT GOD HOWEVER LIKE ALL CATHOLICS ESP IN THE MIDDLE EAST WILL BURN. if they dont repent now also christians need to wake up jesus wasn't god but had god in him as we do all of us. but Jesus was our mediator and none is needed its why you pray in his name but not to him case closed
mischellewright69 1 year ago
@mischellewright69 You a muslim or anglican?
Rockstar6111 7 months ago
so if the holy spirit kept marry from sinning because that would have contaminated Jesus through birth with her sin, that would mean that her mother and father and there mothers and fathers would have also been sin free so that she wouldn't have been contaminated at birth? but I thought Jesus was the only person to ever live sin free? 1 Peter 2:22 22 “He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his mouth.”
jesusfreakrw 1 year ago
Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
brotherfrank62 1 year ago 4
Keith did you recieve my question? I don't see it posted here.
elchapito3 1 year ago
@elchapito3 Yes I answered it. Look near the top.
KeithTruth 1 year ago
@KeithTruth
I did a follow up question after that, I don't know if you answered it. But I'll ask again to make sure. I wasn't raising the issue of Catholicism at all. I was asking because protestant groups have different takes on this doctrine, so I just wanted to know what your view was. But very simply, my question was "do u believe that when you eat the eucharist you are truly and substantially partaking of the body and blood of Jesus and that by doing so you have eternal life?"
elchapito3 1 year ago
@elchapito3 My answer was no I do not believe you substantially partake in the literal body and blood of Jesus but it is a metaphorical way to honor Jesus in a symbolic way.
KeithTruth 1 year ago
@KeithTruth
I appreciate your reply. But does it scare you that reformer John Calvin disagrees with you? He says: "I freely accept whatever can be made to express the True and Substantial partaking of the Body and Blood of the Lord, which is shown to believers under the sacred symbols of the Supper - and so to express it that they may be understood not to receive it solely by imagination or understanding of mind, but to enjoy the thing itself as nourishment of Eternal Life"
elchapito3 1 year ago
@elchapito3
(John T. McNeill, Calvin: Institutes of the Christian Religion, Volume 2, pg. 1382). Was Calvin wrong on this?
elchapito3 1 year ago
@elchapito3 Moreover, even if Calvin held to transubstantiation, which he clearly didn't and wrote against, it wouldn't matter to Calvinists because we do not call ourselves Calvinists because we hold to all of his theology, we call ourselves Calvinists because we agree with soteriological points like depravity, election, grace and perseverence. Its called Calvinism, not because people submit to him, but because he became the most well known reformer to hold to these soterilogical views.
KeithTruth 1 year ago
@KeithTruth
I understand that you don't follow everything John Calvin says. But Calvin also believed in the perpetual Virginity of Mary, Infant Baptism, the Sacraments, that Baptism saves you, ect. That means he got all this wrong. So if he could get all these doctrines wrong, then don't you think its possible he got some of his Grace theology wrong? I mean, we put so much trust and faith on certain individuals, but we dont know for sure if they are right. That is shaky ground for me.
elchapito3 1 year ago
@elchapito3 He never taught baptism saved people. To answer you, yes Calvin was wrong on IB, eschatology, the virginity of Mary etc, but there's no human on earth with infallible interpretation on every subject. Question: what does Scripture teach and does it promote God's sovereignty? Is Calvinist soteriology clearly Scriptural? Yes. Him being wrong on the virginity of Mary or infant baptism doesn't disqualify reformed soteriology. Thats the problem of induction fallacy. What do you believe?
KeithTruth 1 year ago
@elchapito3 Calvinist soteriological principles, which are so Scriptural and were widely picked up by thousands of reformers, can be found in the 1st to 5th century early church father writings as demonstrated in Dr. John Gill's work "The Cause of God and Truth." Therefore, nothing hinges on the man Calvin, say what you will about him. I can call myself a 4 point Biblicist or a 4 point early church fatherist, or 4 point Spurgeonist. Calvinists usually don't read Calvins writings at all
KeithTruth 1 year ago
@KeithTruth
I would consider myself a Christian because I believe in the Bible, Jesus died for my sins and salvation by Faith. My problem is that I don't know which Theology to go by. My point is that men are not infallible, they make mistakes, including Calvin. That's why I'm suspicious to accept any of His views on Grace. You appeal to the Church Fathers, Scholars, etc. I would say that the majority can be wrong. Remember, the gate is Narrow for salvation but its wide for destruction.
elchapito3 1 year ago
@elchapito3 No one is asking you to accept one man's theology. If that was the basis that would be questionable. However, the realization that men are born totally depraved and unable to believe in the Gospel or do what we are commanded without divine assistance is from Jesus, Paul, Ambrose, Augustine, Wycliff, Huss, Luther, Calvin, Whitefield, Spurgeon, Macarthur, Piper, millions in between and millions presently. This is narrow but present in history, the majority reject this truth
KeithTruth 1 year ago
@elchapito3 You said you believe Jesus died for your sin and salvation is by faith. If I were to press you to define faith and talk about mans freedom, ability and how grace works you would give me definitions that have come to the church from history, systematized forumations of these things since we have had 2000 to think about them. Now, if your beliefs are based on free will and line up with Jacobus Arminius and then I pointed out some flaws in his other thinking would you appreciate that?
KeithTruth 1 year ago
@KeithTruth
Like I said Keith, I don't belong to any theological camp so I can't give you a definitive answer about what my views are on man's freedom, total depravity, etc. I'm still trying to figure that out. But either way, if I espouse man's free will, I will be called a heretic. But if I espouse God's predestination without free will, I will also be called a heretic. So im sort of in this "limbo" "middle stage" of confusion in theology, if you will. Its very difficult to be 100% sure.
elchapito3 1 year ago
@elchapito3 You're misreading the quote - he is saying that accepting the sacrifice by faith is the substantial partaking and the echarist is the later symbolic expression of that. Therefore, he further states that the bread and wine are not the literal body and blood of Jesus but, "the bread and the wine are visible signs, which represent to us the body and blood." Signs and representations - not the literal body and blood, please try to understand quotes before believing propaganda about them.
KeithTruth 1 year ago
@KeithTruth
Granted, he did not hold to the same view as catholics and orthodox on the eucharist but, nevertheless, he still held to a real presence and not a "symbolic" presence. He even says "Moreover, I am NOT SATISFIED with those persons who, recognizing that we have some communion with Christ, when they would show us what it is, make us partakers of the Spirit ONLY, omitting mention of Flesh and Blood" (Ibid., p. 1366-1367). So he didnt believe it was symbolic "spirit" only.
elchapito3 1 year ago
hey keith do u believe that when you eat the eucharist you are truly and substantially partaking of the body and blood of Jesus and that by doing so you have eternal life?
elchapito3 1 year ago
@elchapito3 Thats not the Catholic position as defined by them in council. They teach that when you eat the bread and drink the wine you are eating the body, blood, soul, spirit and deity of Jesus. No I do not believe such a thing. When we eat its a metaphorical symbolic way to honor Jesus and a recognition that we have accepted his saving work on the cross. People without eyes or ears have perverted this though and ritualized salvation.
KeithTruth 1 year ago
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@KeithTruth
I wasn't raising the issue of catholicism at all. My question was simply this "do u believe that when you eat the eucharist you are truly and substantially partaking of the body and blood of Jesus and that by doing so you have eternal life?" Yes or No. Thanks
elchapito3 1 year ago
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elchapito3 1 year ago
When Christ died on the Cross and said "it is done" he meant the gates are now open to those who will prove their love to him by suffering as he suffered through forgiving those you hate, giving charity to those you despise, and understanding that you are humble! Now listen to this... if you think you are saved through the crucifixion and nothing else! Then Christs bread of life means nothing to you, does it?
BloodOfRayne 1 year ago
I've decided to love my Catholic bro's and sis's aside from trying to convert their understanding... because I've seen the fruitlessness of it, and how it engenders contention... I would rather respectfully agree to disagree.
1156511 1 year ago
Many people may be surprised that Muslims love Mary,
The nineteenth chapter of the Quran is named after her, Mariam. Mariam means Mary in Arabic. The third chapter in the Quran is named after her father, Imran. Chapters Mariam and Imran are among the most beautiful chapters in the Quran. An authentic Haddith states that the Prophet said,(Many men reached the level of perfection, but no woman reached such a level except Mary, the daughter of Imran and Asia, the wife of Pharaoh.) (Bukhari 4.643)
Bulldozerislamik 1 year ago
1. Where in the Bible does it say that Mary knew Jesus better than anyone else?
2. Just because the LORD gave her favor by birthing Jesus, this does not mean I should venerate her. Once again, GOD hasn't told me to do this, so why should I follow man's example?
3. Does the verses that he's quoting from the Catholic Bible line up with the King James Bible, or even the Torah for that matter? The Bible confirms itself over & over, does the Catholic Bible do the same?
jebeja 1 year ago
I guess people don't realize that Blessed Mary is the Ark of the New Covenant. To show veneration (Cultus Hyperduliæ) to Blessed Mary is not a sin. Catholics show veneration and honor to the Angels & saints (Cultus duliæ) and to Blessed Mary, though give Worship and Adoration (Cultus Latriæ) to God alone.
It is quite apparent that many fail to realize that God the Father was the very first to call Mary "Blessed"(Lk. i. 28) and God the Holy Ghost was the second.(Lk. i. 41-42).
Pax Christi
3987Gara 1 year ago
WOW that's a young James White :D he looks good!
TheSpurgeonist 1 year ago
@jessdoublediz You're an idiot! Well done. :)
BloodOfRayne 1 year ago
Dr Fastiggi as well as the Pagaan Roman Catholic Church are not of GOD. They worship Mary which means that they have not given their lives to Jesus but have given their lives to Mary. They therefor do not have the Holy Spirit within them and are blinded from truth and believe the lie.
John 8:4 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
Ephesians 4:18
Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
Matthew 15:14
Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
"...for many shall be deceived." Jesus Christ is all that's required. Not Mary, not the pope (so-called "Holy Father"), not anything but Jesus. Sure, listen to Mary when she says "do whatever he tells you" & paul when he says "follow christ", yeah! Let christ be the judge. I judge no-one & no-one can judge me but I test the spirits & the spirit of CATHOLICISM FAILS.
sthnwatch 1 year ago
Fastiggi went to Fordham Jesuit University. Thats all I need to know about that guy. The Jesuit University system might as well be Harry Potters, Hogswarth. This is the system of schools that, while compartmentalized to segregate the general public, is actually the learning system to educate the sons and daughters of Jesuits and high level Catholics and Wiccans. into the occult knowledge of the Babylonian Wiccan Sun and nature worshiping elite and its hierarchy which controls EVERY GOVERNMENT!
kidwave1 1 year ago
the human nature is FROM the Father God, not mary sorry rob
strongyang 1 year ago
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Romans 8:38-39
38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[a] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
envolik123 1 year ago
Romans 8:38-39
38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[a] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
envolik123 1 year ago
see, i watch this kind of stuff, then it frustrates me when i can't get a catholic to understand that they're not truly christian
legomoviem4ker 1 year ago
This video just proves that even Catholics belong to a cult. What a bunch of ridiculous nonsense.
sandrock605 1 year ago 2
interesting this catholic wants us to be a connect of eve and mary based on one word .... women what about other occasion where he says women is it the same situation .... check john 4 :7and 17and 22, and 8 : 3, 9 and 10
i guess these times where women is used by the writer and jesus it is an indication of the connection of a women to eve
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@jessdoublediz
well said
TangerineGroovin 1 year ago
Its Clear Fastiggi does not know the Bible and He does not believe in scripture alone???? woooh He rather Believe in other writings that are not derived from the Bible.
He says Dr White's Theology comes from a "few little passages"? notice how he belittles the Word of God.
This is the mixture of truth with lies for the sore purpose of deceiving people.
honeybarger 1 year ago 10
@honeybarger "... for many shall be deceived."
It's all we can really do to keep ourselves from temptation. It's so hard to live beside ignorant people determined to stick with the dogma that they're wrapped up in that's choking them down when we love them & know they want to be in Christ. Really hard when we're trying to help them be free 'coz we know they want it deep down. They're so deceived. The line has been drawn & it's not far from us now. God bless the catholics, they really need it.
sthnwatch 1 year ago
@honeybarger -- Well said!
aldotkd1 9 months ago
@honeybarger The Bible teaches that the word of God is contained in Sacred Oral Tradition and the Sacred Scriptures not through Sacred Scripture alone (2 Tim 2:15, 2 Tim 3:16, 1 Cor 11: 2). Mankind has been illiterate for the majority of human history that is why God passed down truths predominantly through Sacred Oral Tradition. Luke 10:16, Romans 10:14. Jesus and the Apostles did not believe in scripture alone. The New Testament was not even written when they started preaching.
Heb59 7 months ago
@Heb59, The old testament books were already all there in Jesus time, that's what they read in those days(BC). Jesus quoted from the Old testament Bible he's defense to the devils temptation came from the Word alone, Not from sacred Oral Tradition...
You see the whole Roman Catholic "thing" was made for pagans, why I say that, because it was made with some truth mixed with paganism in a deceitful way meant to accommodate pagans.
honeybarger 7 months ago
@honeybarger The Old Testament was not written over night. Truths were passed down through Sacred Oral Tradition first before any Sacrded Scripture could be recoreded. The books in the Bible are part of Tradition. If you look at the Bible there are no authors listed there. We trust Sacred Oral Tradition to tell us the Bible is the word of God. The titles you see in there were not part of the manuscripts. It was added in there because tradition taught it was written by Paul, John, etc...
Heb59 6 months ago
@honeybarger I do not agree that the Roman Catholic "thing" is a mix of paganism. But for arguments sake let's say it was a mix of paganism, that means there must have been a church as ancient as the Catholic Church but was not mixed with paganism. Where is this church now because that is the church i want to join?
Heb59 6 months ago
@Heb59 You do not have to go to a specific church to receive Christ.
honeybarger 6 months ago
@honeybarger If I do not have to go to a specific church, can I receive Jesus Christ in the Catholic Church?
Heb59 6 months ago
@Heb59 Of course you can. God is omnipotent, But if you truthfully receive him he will give you the gift of the Holy Spirit which will guide you unto all truths.
Your eyes will be opened to see the wrongs you were not able to see when you did not have the Spirit of God.
honeybarger 6 months ago
@honeybarger Once you receive Christ in the Catholic Church but continue practice the so called “paganism” are you still saved?
Heb59 6 months ago
wow james white looks really young here. Im guessing early 80's... I think it is crazy to pray to any saints, idols, or mary. Some one had to be Jesus' earthly mother, she was just a normal women who tried to live right like everyone else.
ADAJ3 1 year ago
lol sounds like Mary is a mediator to Christ.
megaman90 1 year ago
@megaman90 ah well, would a pastor be a mediator to the Trinity when discussing Christianity (which is a product of the Trinity)?
RidgeofEternity 1 year ago
@RidgeofEternity A pastor is not the mediator of Grace or Salvation. Only Jesus alone is that mediator.it just what Dr. Jame White brought up about Moses being a "Mediator" but it is the mediation of the old covenant. and I believe pastors are leaders for the church and servants of God. like the appointed apostles were.
megaman90 1 year ago
@megaman90 Very true! That would mean that Mary is the same as a pastor, just for the whole church.
RidgeofEternity 1 year ago
@RidgeofEternity that would be going too far. According to the bible Mary was a vessel for giving birth the son of God and just being an example of a good servant to God which is a great blessing. that is all she was. she was not one of the apostles to lead the church, she was never appointed for that. there is nothing historical of the account of her doing so, that is a misconception if the church is giving her that position.
megaman90 1 year ago
@megaman90 What I said was an explanation on Mary's function. Mary is the mother of Jesus Christ by the Grace given to her by God above, this is obvious. But what you can't say is "this is not true!" because to say that would be the rejection of something unknown, which is wrong.
Even with what you said doesn't tell me you know much about this. John 19:26-27 speaks of Jesus beholding Mary as the mother of a disciple. This is not to argue her spiritual value, but that she 'was' something else.
RidgeofEternity 1 year ago
Amazing how Catholics reference from the Cataclysm when Christ simply says:
"Do not turn itching ears to doctrins of men or of devils"!
bionicdanb 1 year ago
the catholic is definitly being ignorant and wont use the scripture for direct truth just assumption good post
thatsonofourgod 1 year ago
i never knew catholics pray to mary i thought they just idolized her thats worse!
thatsonofourgod 1 year ago
@thatsonofourgod They also pray to the Pope. Pope Classic that is, not the New Pope.
GompCelticPL 1 year ago
Dr. White with hair lol!
kytekutter 1 year ago
Great Upload. Dr White quotes nothing but the bible and Dr. Fastiggi is willing to quote everything except it. Fastiggi doesnt even attempt to quote the bible for his belief which I find disturbing. He quotes these past Preachers such as Martin Luther as if they are on par with scriptures in the bible. Thats like some one quoting TD Jakes 300 years in the future and referencing him as a saint and his words have as much weight as the Disciple Luke.Dr White .Beware of Non Biblical Dogma.
DaSurreal1da 1 year ago
I have to say that it turned my stomach to hear such unbiblical justifications for creating this false idol of "Mary". Dr. Fastgiggi's arguments could have been summed up as follows: "We think Jesus would honor His mother thusly."
However, as he said earlier, Mary's words were to do what Jesus commanded (John 2:5). And Jesus commanded that we give every brother and sister in the Lord the same honor we would give His mother, nothing more (Matthew 12:50). That is good enough for me.
Ainesis3 1 year ago 15
@Ainesis3 very well summed up..my thoughts exactly
fontz2001 1 year ago
@Ainesis3 Why would Jesus even HAVE to say "I would honor my Mother thusly"? She was the Mother of the Son of God! Could it not just be common sense to revere (not idolize) her! Why do you Protestants always say "if it ain't in the Bible, it ain't true!" Where does it say in the Bible that the Bible is the only authority? Nowhere!
I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel.
BloodOfRayne 1 year ago
We are not lean to our own understanding. Yet, RCC mariology is based in what you call the "common sense" of man where Scripture is silent. That's a HUGE red flag. The contradiction with Scripture they pose is yet another.
We DO know that oral tradition NEVER contradicts written tradition for they are both inspired by the same Spirit (2 Thess. 2:15). God never calls us to determine worship by "common sense" but by the Spirit and His truth. Anything else is soulish and in lies.
Ainesis3 1 year ago
@BloodOfRayne CORRECTION: "I will put enmity between you & the woman, & between your offspring & her offspring. He will pound your head, & you will bite his heel." From the Torah, verse 15, chapter 3-bereishis/genesis
So you see, it was written that it was eve's offspring that would pound the serpents head, & whose heel the serpent would bruise.Yes we should have respect for Mary but to idolize as the mother of God? You're right, NO! We shouldn't.This is vid isvain contention over the obvious.
sthnwatch 1 year ago
@sthnwatch You haven't answered the question? Are you a Sola Scriptura guy? I have to say that if you are a true atheist, why do you even give a fuck? Are you telling me that you are such a sad lonely atheist that you spend your time mocking a God don't believe in just because your atheist belief isn't getting you laid? Is that it?
BloodOfRayne 1 year ago
@BloodOfRayne I didn't realize you'd asked me anything. I was just correcting your attempt at quoting scripture. I am a follower of Christ. You couldn't have got your impression of me more wrong. Your attitude is blinding you somewhat & you simply want to put me down or insult me or somehow hurt me. Whatever it is, you should take a look at yourself & just check that you're seeing things clearly, for your own sake my friend. God bless you. Peace.
sthnwatch 1 year ago
@BloodOfRayne We dont say that if it aint in the Bible is not true. The Bible does not mention everything in the world, so to say that is stupid. The thing we believe is in the authority of the Bible Alone. The Bible does not mention nor gives the concept of "veneration". ""if it ain't in the Bible, it ain't true!" Where does it say in the Bible that the Bible is the only authority? Nowhere! It gives the understanding that you are admitting it is not Scripture....
johnpolanco18 1 year ago
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@johnpolanco18 2 timothy 3:16-17
adamcarp83 1 year ago
@johnpolanco18 You never understood! There is no Bible alone! Christ himself sent the first disciples to preach and they wrote many books after him to be followed! The Holy Ghost gave them the power to go out and preach and to retain or forgive sins in his name! The Bible is the book of truth but not the only book! The saints wrote many books and Christ told us to follow them in their teachings! Jesus said this in the New Testament! They that confess, shall be confessed!
BloodOfRayne 1 year ago
@BloodOfRayne That is a problem with Catholics.They try to make it seem as if all the Saints agreed to everything they said. It is obvious that the church fathers disagreed with each other in many different levels. Melito of Sardis, Athanasius, Jerome, Hilary of Poitiers, Cyril of Jerusalem all rejected the apocrypha, yet Catholics lie about saying " we were all in agreement." T