for all this guy knew those 2 robbery suspects just butchered his neighbors. You have to be out of your mind to call this guy racist, he witnessed a break in waiting 8 minutes on the phone with the dispatcher until he saw them getting away, he told them to stop, they came at him, and he took their lives. These men were hardened criminals. If they were white would you black people give a shit, its not joe horns fault they were black.
If I did this in the uk they would throw the key away. It must be great to live in a free country like the US. I love Great Britain but it really has gone to hell now
@Landyman999 Yes Sir, it is better then Kingdom (with your muslim and indian immigrant scam bags and "politically correct" policy makers) but liberal low lifes taking our rights day by day, damn it! I hate dirty immigrants that hero Horn shot. Heck, i'm law abiding freedom loving immigrant myself to the great nation of USA and defended its interests in Iraq and do it again if asked. LONG LIVE USA!
@DX17REAPER17DX not a nigger hater, private property! its someones home! if someone broke into your home id hope there asses get shot as well, asian black chinese white whatever!
It's always a fucking nigger or a mexicunt. Go ahead and read the statistics.. the numbers don't lie. percent of african american males incarcerated for violent crimes and robbery, percent of mexicunt males incarcerated for violent crimes and robbery. I salute you, mr horn.
@Mozart1220 When you expose yourself as a nigger lover, you lose all credibility. You are worse than any nigger you attempt to defend. remember liberalism is a mental disorder ...
Dang this ole country boy from the woods aint scared of nothing. He did what right, if you dont like that kiss my ass son. He reminds me of my bud Billy, he is a banjo picker.
Is it "illegal"? I am sure someone can make case for that... Would I send to jail an old man that tried to stop a crime, and that after confronting the criminals and telling them to stop, they jumped at him? HELL NO! I WOULD NOT. NEVER!!!
Let that be a lesson to all you scum bag fucks out there. There are over 30 million registered gun owners in america. You wanna be a thieving bitch, well watch your back.
@weinstein888 Right, because if someone is defending themselves or someone else from a couple scum bags that means they are rednecks, but the countless numbers of kids and innocents that die from gang violence is ok. Thats just progress I guess. The more criminals see people standing up for themselves the less incentive they have to run around taking what they want from hard working people.
@lksjgdfkjgsdkgi He wasn't defending himself. He was in no danger. He's just an idiot who values the right to wildly brandish a gun like all of you rednecks over human life.
@weinstein888 ok listen. He just said they were on his property. Once someone is on your property you have every right to open fire. And theres a difference between "wildly brandishing" a gun and using one responsibly, and YOU biased ignoramuses use the actions of iresponsible gun owners to slander the names of responsible gun owners and its somethin im damn sick of. And i agree lksjgdfkjgsdkgi, what about all the gang violence? would i be a dumb redneck defending my family from one of them
@airsoftjunkie24 Listen to the video again. They're not on his property, he's just looking for an excuse to shoot someone. Again, I don't know why you people think murdering 2 people over a couple grand in property is defensible.
@weinstein888 No, YOU listen to the video again. It starts at 6:25 "that tree in my yard". In HIS yard. And since when is stealing other peoples hard earned money and/or property defensible!?
@airsoftjunkie24 It's a simple disagreement. You think a double murder is an appropriate response to petty theft. I however don't, because unlike you I use my brain before acting. There's really nothing left to argue about.
@weinstein888 Why the hell are you avoiding the subject and trying to back out all of a sudden? I never said he should've murdered them. Maybe shoot em in the leg and make em immobile, but not murder them. And that was not the arguement, the arguement was if they wereor weren't on his property, giving him the right to shoot. I proved that they were and you all of a sudden back out.
@airsoftjunkie24 I'm pretty sure the controversy surrounding this video isn't that he shot them, but KILLED both of them. If he had just injured them enough to get out of harm's way, I have no issue with that, but that's not the argument. The argument is that killing to prevent someone from stealing some random shit is retarded.
@weinstein888 He didnt kill them because they stole "shit" he shot them because they came at him. What can be percieved by your statement is that its ok for people to prey on you and its not ok for you to protect your self or your property. I doubt that you really feel its not okk to protect yourself but thats just the way it sounds. and who ever charges someone with a shotgun is an idiot.
@weinstein888 There you go again changin the subject the "controversy" between YOU and ME was whether or not they were on his property. I proved they were and thats that.
Let's be honest. Joe witnessed these guys commit a crime so it was a fact they where criminals. He also knew they where armed as he saw the crowbar. Plus they where standing on his property and advancing toward him. Joe is obviously a little more paranoid than some people, but was still justified.. especially if he felt he was in danger. You know what's funny? if a woman had done the exact same thing no one would have batted an eye.
murderer and should have been charged. Says he did not go out to shoot anyone but a) he goes out with a gun and b) he tells the 911 operator he is going to do it..listen to the call..its on here also. Vigilantes are cool in movies but suck in real life. In must any state in the USA you cannot use deadly force to protect property, especially that of another person. If you check out Garner v Tennessee, you will see that police cannot shoot an unarmed felon, fleeing felon; so why can this guy?
@controversyking What world do you live in? You think whites don't murder, rape ect. Take a look at our well known serial killers, actually a majority of them are white, And Joe Horn just proved the point. You are just one of those that want to turn any conversation into a races debate, I for one love a debate however I choose not to with people that are not intelligent enough to give me a challenge, so sorry can't waste my time on you.
@controversyking hell no. thats like sayin if the shooter was black ... would I be happy.... no... cuz 2 ppl are dead. when they should just be in prison
Redneck 101-"your dead buddy" means stop. "I had no intentions of coming out er an shootin em sir" - "I'm goin out the door now you hear the shot gun clicking" lol. LMAO. Did he think the 911 call wasn't recorded, why lie?
@walkintall29 It is always nice to know we have such kind, considerate and educated people such as yourself out there in our world, definitely makes feel safer! You really should consider running for president. I'm sure you would have a huge amount of redneck 3rd grade dropouts that would find you an excellent candidate.
Also, he went outside with intention of shooting, he even states that. Had he stayed inside and allowed trained officials, such as police, to do their job then he wouldnt of had to feel threatened, he should have followed the 911 instructions
@Coolsocks102 fuck off. its because u cant shoot them is why these dirty niggers did it to start with. good on him. you shouldnt need a reason to wipe out a fucking nigger
@xxxfirebirdxxx76 I beg to differ, I do not see the lack of logic in that question because that is exactly what Mr. Horn did and did not get charged with. He didnt do an investigation to determine the situation. So If your cousins broke in your house would you want your neighbor to shoot them? He didnt know any of the cicumstances before deciding they should be murdered.
@Coolsocks102 Your question is dumb. Of course it doesn't mean you can shoot "anyone" running across a yard. This situation has very specific details. These guys just weren't people running through his yard, they were crimminals. For all he knew they would have beat him to death for being a witness. I'm not saying the guy was right or wrong, but rather that your question/conclusion lacks logic.
this isn't about race or color. Talk about opportunistic, some ppl scan the forums looking 4 an excuse to say something derogatory about skin color, religion or race. This has nothing 2 do with ppl on welfare, immigrants or skin color. Horn got 2 antsy and worked up & went outside looking 4 trouble, but due 2 the "Castle Law" in TX he has the right 2 defend his property. IMHO Horn should have stayed inside, but criminals know they may get injured or killed during a burglary. Whatever race.
why are people backing this fat dick he was warned like 20 times by the 911 operator not to go outside that the police were on there way, he is an opportunistic murderer.
Hey u can't blame Joe he seems to have a nice home with valuables that he has worked hard for probably the same with the neighbors i don't think it was a racist choice that he made even if the men were of any other race Joe was going to have justice his way. Well looks like his neighbor owes him one
horn is the opposite of a great american. He ignored the law, and other human beings civil rights. He is an idiot murderer. They were only idiot theives.
@beastshawnee What r u talking about havent u heard of the "castle law" that says u have the right not to let 2 illegal spics who have no regard for our country can be shot !! Joe horns as american as apple pie !! We deserve to be safe in our own home.Without fear of being killed by two wetbacks.
@BizzareCorpse You might want to take yourself on down and sign up for law school, being such an expert there. Be sure and tell them about your theories about murdering thieves in class, and explain the terms spic and wetback to them so they can help you look in the legal archives for this justification for cold blooded murder. It might take you longer to graduate than you plan on though, so don't order the party invites yet. You'd probably set a record and graduate as their oldest student.
@beastshawnee Everything i said was true mixed w/opinion.I know u liberals love these poor illegals aww..Listen my grandma came from poland alone thru ellis when she was 14.She didnt rob anybody,she didnt wave the polish flag or commit i.d theft..I really wish a pack of smelly ass wetbacks come into ur home an do God knows what an see how u like paying for there welfare..
@beastshawnee well guess what then jackass.. since your still here arguing about how illegal what he's done is... get this, he's free as ever right now... whether you like it or not.
@beastshawnee How did he ignore their rights? They were committing a crime and were violating others rights and safety. So he did what he thought was best and shot them as most people down here in Texas would. If we had neighbors like him everywhere I guarantee crime rate would be down substantially.
@Bullsi13 Even criminals have civil rights. Do not call yourself a patriotic American if you can't agree with that. Only criminals shoot criminals. Let the police and the courts do their jobs.
Why is it that what ever crime blacks commit, other blacks have every lame ass excuse in the world to try n defend their actions. Had MR. Horn been black and the 2 burglars been black, Quanell X never would have showed up and he knows it. It is only because they were killed by a white person that the panthers showed up, none the the crap that the panthers say is to be believed. The bottom line is this. WITH VIGILANTE JUSTICE, THERE ARE NO REPEAT OFFENDERS!
He is sooo worried about what he has done, because, HE KNOWS THAT HE IS WRONG !!!!!! THESE MEN HAD STOLEN PROPERTY AND HE THINKS IT IS OK TO KILL THEM OR MAIM THEM???????????? WTH
Guy should be in prison.....why you leave the house you old bastard? ANd they were shot in the back...just shows you they were running away and his life was never in danger...but he is old so he prolly will be dead soon ..and on his way to hell and ill laugh lol
@nyjet2210 well the fact that u would rather have criminals roaming the streets than armed citizen defend them selfs and another persons property when they have full right to do so makes me sick. I hope that one day u are getting robbed in your front yard and your neighbor stands at his window with a shotgun and watches the robbers steal ur wallet then blow ur brains all over the driveway.
@nyjet2210 wait a second so if ur lights are off ur not home? damn thats crazy i have been asleep with my lights off plenty of times! even early in the night!
So yes what i said was right! You would rather have criminals roam the street rather that armed citizens defend them selfs and their neighbors!
@nyjet2210 no shit they were not home!!! thats after this happened dumbass!!! Of course once the cops got there they knew there was no one home! Even if he did know that no one was home its still legal for him defend a third parties property so what is your point!
@bobwatters no they were never home all day...dont even say it doesnt matter cuz it does..and theres no statue saying that you have the right to protect your neibors property,,,yes you can protect them...but not for a tv and some jewlery..what kind of credibility do you have for this argument? did you even go to college?
@nyjet2210 Yes i have a college education so dont even start that shit especialy since that has nothing to do with this. Thers is no statute? Actualy there is a statue that says if they are visibly leaving with property then you have the right to stop them using deadly force. So yea just b.c u dont like the law and u would rather ur neighbors stand around and do nothing while criminals rob ur house dosent mean that its not there.
@bobwatters Noooooo I mean credibility in the field of Law...I do...and yes it has alot to do with this..lol and what statue says you can use deadly force with property from your neighbor??I looked it up and in texas you have every right to protect yourself and your personal property...not your neighbor..so he was wrong..but found innocent by his peers so it dont matter we can argue all day..take care old man
@fzappa007 Yes I graduated from UCLA....and im willing to bet money its a more prestige school you went to or think about going to...so what I forgot the T...Im sure I spelled other words incorrectly...I type fast and I dont proof read youtube comments..I know its statute..I wrote several IRAC papers...please please tell me what school you went to..lol junior college!! clap clap clap clap clap junior college!!! lolooololool
It matters not that you graduated from UCLA, You present yourself as a graduate from ROMPER-ROOM...I am sure that TV program is before you time so I will briefly explain it. Romper Room was early morning black and white TV show in the early 60's geared towards pre-kindergarten aged children. It was to developed to keep the kids busy while "mom" kissed "dads" ass and got him off to work. It was basically a kindergarten class on TV.
@nyjet2210 , You're willing "to bet money" ??? now how could you,- as a retarded TROLL- know what university I attended?? I would be happy to provide you with - certs & dox - from this little place in Massachusetts called M.I.T. ...if I need to explain what M.I.T. signifies then this conversation is over.
And back to the point BOOFER wonder into my yard and I might just pull a "Joe Horn" on you dumb ass, go back to kissing -quanell x-'s ass...made-up name retard..
@fzappa007 yeah you attended.......not graduate...cuz if you did you would brag about what degree you graduated with....and you must be uneducated using a word called boofer lol....your a dumb redneck who drives trucks for a living....and I know for a fact your well into your 40s...youll be dead soon...so i dont care...goodbye
So he comes out with a shotgun in his hand, pointed at them, and he felt threatened? This is such shit!!! He shot them in the back for crying out loud!!!!!!!
So just to be clear: his theory is that he saw a robbery taking place. He didnt "want this in his neighborhood". He was inside, doors locked, windows closed, w/ police on the way...and w/ a shotgun on his lap. But he's afraid. SO afraid in fact, that he goes outside, to tell the guys hes afraid of to freeze. Then shoots them in the back. I get it. Its very clear. He was afraid they were going to run from that house, and into his.. All that plus cop told him 14 times NOT to go outside. wow.
@nitewlker do you even live in texas you need to get your facts straight he never said he was to scared to go outside. what he did say was that he was going outside to try to see where they were and if he could get some more information for the cops and that before this he had been on the phone with 911 and they hung up on him.if you had knew the facts you would know where they came out was right next to where he was standing and the one he shot was not in the back both were shot in the chest.
Good Guess. NO Im not from TX. But feel free to go to my channel. You will find the link that takes you the Houston Newspaper. The same Houston Newspaper that reported the findings made by the coroner that examined the bodies. The paper reports, that his report CONCLUDED, that both men... wait for it.... WERE SHOT IN THE BACK. .... so let me ask you. Where do YOU get your facts from?
Also let me know if you want the OFFICIAL transcript of the 911 call. The same call where
@361bryan he was told NOT TO GO OUTSIDE. Told almost FIFTEEN (15) times NOT to go outside. ... But no, not Mr. Neighborhood hero. ... he wanted to go outside. But then says he was scared...does that make sense to you. What did Mr. Horn or you think the robbers were gonna do? Rob the house and then go to his house and "hang out."
Also in the TRANSCRIPT you can see/read that he said several times, "im not gonna let them get away with this shit." .. again, Mr. Neighborhood hero took the law into
@361bryan his own hands. Only a truly ignorant, below intelligent man would be inside his own home, protected with doors and a shot gun, but then claim he went outside....TOWARDS THE DANGER because he was scared. ... if you believe that, than I got water front land in Oklahoma I'd like to sell ya'.
I ALSO have the link to the full call. ..where it is clear, that he was not "hung up" on. And even if he was, he was told not to go outside, and wasnt REQUIRED TO. He didn't know the neigbhors.
@361bryan you can also see/read/hear from the transcript that he said " I don't know if they have a weapon, I know they have a crowbar they used to break the window." So again, this OLD man, inside his home, with a shot gun on his lap, doesn't know if they have a weapon is scared just from watching. So scared, that he goes outside. ... I wonder if he were watching a T5 tornado whirling down the street, if he'd get in his car and drive towards it... out of fear of course.
why yall gotta make this a racial issue? I wouldve shot anybody dead as fuck for breaking in mine or my neighbors house, dont matter if they were white black yellow or green... its always cuz they're BLACK LMAO! its cuz they were piece of shit criminals dumb fucks
he diddent want to shoot them & was in fear of his life so he whent outside his house with a loaded shotgun to confront 2 strangers he's suposed to be afraid of.does that makes sense.on the 911 call he says nothing about being afraid just anger that there getting away with his neighbours (who he does not know) belongings.think about that.
fuck that fat redkneck cousinfucker.he was on his computer looking for childporn when there were 2 BLACK guys (not just guys) then decided to stick his nose into someoneelses problem & whent outside ignoreing advice to play the hereo by shooting 2 guys running away in the back like the coward he is yelling your dead (listen to the audio because thets what he says) then runs inside. what a fucking duchebag.
Neighbor like you Joe horn...You did the right thing.Ignorant people just made this into a race issue Quanell X...there's a true fuck'n racist!..I'm hispanic and praise you for what you did...You are a True American!We work too damn hard for some crackheads to come steal our property!Go Joe Horn!!!
Hell Nah..he is NOT racist!We love Joe Horn here in Pasadena Tx...I wish i had a Neighbor like you Joe horn...You did the right thing.Ignorant people just made this into a race issue Quanell X...there's a true fuck'n racist!..I'm hispanic and praise you for what you did...You are a True American!We work too damn hard for some crackheads to come steal our property!Go Joe Horn!!!
Neighbor like you Joe horn...You did the right thing.Ignorant people just made this into a race issue Quanell X...there's a true fuck'n racist!..I'm hispanic and praise you for what you did...You are a True American!We work too damn hard for some crackheads to come steal our property!Go Joe Horn!!!
So simple minded....what if it was your kids. That went into a neighbors backyard because their ball went over the fence like many kids do. And your kids happen to look older than what they are like most do these days; some 16yr olds have full beards.. And Joe Horn sees them running out the back yard with their ball, and shoots them dead.... Would you still think "great job horn." Probably NOT.
@nitewlker you can dream up any scenario you want.....they broke into someones house with a crowbar and stole their hard earned things. and now they are dead for it. end of story
Sure, they turned out to be robbers in fact, but what if it was another scenario like the one below? That's why the law is in place. There are many other situations that too an "untrained" eye would seem like something is not. Lucky for Joe, they were robbers. And luckily he made up the story of fear and all that other nonsense which Texas law allows. But how great would it have been if those 2 guys were family of the home owner. And better yet, the home owner had consented to them breaking the
window. And the h/o came to court and said "yes, I told them to break the window because it was an emergency." Good ol' Joe would be in Prison right now for first degree murder= the Intentional killing of another human being with premeditation and deliberation which in fact causes death.... He'd live out the rest of his sorry, racist, life in General Population..... Too bad I wasn't the Prosecutor on this case. Too bad.
@nitewlker I seriously hope you are not a real da. You hope on the death of innecent people so you can put a man with good intentions on trial ?Im sure the family of the victims would have broke in and not pulled someone out of the house but yet came out with a bag of stuff. we are defending ourselves these days because we cant depend on criminal justice system because you set criminals free more then you lock them up. You would rather put law-abiding citizens on trial.
What if it was your kids. That went into a neighbors backyard because their ball went over the fence like many kids do. And your kids happen to look older than what they are like most do these days; some 16yr olds have full beards.. And Joe Horn sees them running out the back yard with their ball, and shoots them dead.... Would you still think "you are a real american" Probably NOT.
for all this guy knew those 2 robbery suspects just butchered his neighbors. You have to be out of your mind to call this guy racist, he witnessed a break in waiting 8 minutes on the phone with the dispatcher until he saw them getting away, he told them to stop, they came at him, and he took their lives. These men were hardened criminals. If they were white would you black people give a shit, its not joe horns fault they were black.
diaperbreath 17 hours ago
see now that fuck ass knows that he did wrong cracker son of a bitch !
3000supersimian 2 days ago
joe horn you do understand that you is a fuckin racist killer fuck face !
3000supersimian 2 days ago
joe horn someone is going to pay your cracker ass back honkey ass bitch !
3000supersimian 2 days ago
I would've loved to see the look on those bastards faces right before the died....WAY TO GO JOE!!!
bjroberts65 2 days ago
i wish joe horn was my neighbor
gunnut12395 1 week ago
If I did this in the uk they would throw the key away. It must be great to live in a free country like the US. I love Great Britain but it really has gone to hell now
Landyman999 3 weeks ago
@Landyman999 Yes Sir, it is better then Kingdom (with your muslim and indian immigrant scam bags and "politically correct" policy makers) but liberal low lifes taking our rights day by day, damn it! I hate dirty immigrants that hero Horn shot. Heck, i'm law abiding freedom loving immigrant myself to the great nation of USA and defended its interests in Iraq and do it again if asked. LONG LIVE USA!
SerasPhilly 3 weeks ago
What do you think the robbers would have done to the neighbors if they came home?....
youframedroger 1 month ago
Enter my house ill shit don't care what race you are. Hell might shot if you brake into my neighbours house
sourherngalawn 1 month ago
fuck this old man. just a drunk nigger hater
DX17REAPER17DX 1 month ago
@DX17REAPER17DX not a nigger hater, private property! its someones home! if someone broke into your home id hope there asses get shot as well, asian black chinese white whatever!
gummoboy333 1 month ago
It's always a fucking nigger or a mexicunt. Go ahead and read the statistics.. the numbers don't lie. percent of african american males incarcerated for violent crimes and robbery, percent of mexicunt males incarcerated for violent crimes and robbery. I salute you, mr horn.
gpburr 1 month ago
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Afgh4nSoldier 1 month ago
DON'T FUCK WITH THE HORN!!!
BentleytheBrain 1 month ago
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@Mozart1220 When you expose yourself as a nigger lover, you lose all credibility. You are worse than any nigger you attempt to defend. remember liberalism is a mental disorder ...
Unkraut1960 1 month ago
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Unkraut1960 1 month ago
fuckking idiot people these days... someone needs to shoot this fuckker, this bitch needs to mind his OWN buissness
TheDeadJuggaloHomie 1 month ago
@TheDeadJuggaloHomie so you can rob someone nigger boy ?
Unkraut1960 1 month ago
@Unkraut1960 hahaha nice try but im not black, and to the robbery thing no i work for a living and just people need to mind their own buissness
TheDeadJuggaloHomie 1 month ago
@TheDeadJuggaloHomie your what ever i say you are nigger boy ...
Unkraut1960 1 month ago
@Unkraut1960 haha "OK" bitch calm down before you hurt your self by thinking too much you filthy fuckking kraut bitch..
TheDeadJuggaloHomie 1 month ago
@TheDeadJuggaloHomie save it you slow simple minded nigger ..
Unkraut1960 1 month ago
@Unkraut1960 haha nice try with the racist jokes but again you german fags are dumb as shit matter in fact woser than shit
TheDeadJuggaloHomie 1 month ago
Dang this ole country boy from the woods aint scared of nothing. He did what right, if you dont like that kiss my ass son. He reminds me of my bud Billy, he is a banjo picker.
02CamoZ71 1 month ago 2
Is it "illegal"? I am sure someone can make case for that... Would I send to jail an old man that tried to stop a crime, and that after confronting the criminals and telling them to stop, they jumped at him? HELL NO! I WOULD NOT. NEVER!!!
alfamax4562 1 month ago
So, that means burglery is a death sentence?
webbydeb 1 month ago
@webbydeb He was protecting himself, as they were armed. They were on his property, this was legal.
jsquaredgaming 1 month ago
@webbydeb YES!!!!!
GlockN1911 1 month ago
I WOULD LOVE TO SHAKE THIS MANS HAND!
strokerblowinblack 2 months ago
@strokerblowinblack So would I
Rotoziptheman 1 month ago
Let that be a lesson to all you scum bag fucks out there. There are over 30 million registered gun owners in america. You wanna be a thieving bitch, well watch your back.
lksjgdfkjgsdkgi 2 months ago 9
@lksjgdfkjgsdkgi or people could be reasonable and not kill over a couple grand in property like dumb fucking rednecks.
weinstein888 1 month ago
@weinstein888 Right, because if someone is defending themselves or someone else from a couple scum bags that means they are rednecks, but the countless numbers of kids and innocents that die from gang violence is ok. Thats just progress I guess. The more criminals see people standing up for themselves the less incentive they have to run around taking what they want from hard working people.
lksjgdfkjgsdkgi 1 month ago 2
@lksjgdfkjgsdkgi He wasn't defending himself. He was in no danger. He's just an idiot who values the right to wildly brandish a gun like all of you rednecks over human life.
weinstein888 1 month ago
@weinstein888 ok listen. He just said they were on his property. Once someone is on your property you have every right to open fire. And theres a difference between "wildly brandishing" a gun and using one responsibly, and YOU biased ignoramuses use the actions of iresponsible gun owners to slander the names of responsible gun owners and its somethin im damn sick of. And i agree lksjgdfkjgsdkgi, what about all the gang violence? would i be a dumb redneck defending my family from one of them
airsoftjunkie24 1 month ago
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02CamoZ71 1 month ago
@airsoftjunkie24 Listen to the video again. They're not on his property, he's just looking for an excuse to shoot someone. Again, I don't know why you people think murdering 2 people over a couple grand in property is defensible.
weinstein888 1 month ago
@weinstein888 No, YOU listen to the video again. It starts at 6:25 "that tree in my yard". In HIS yard. And since when is stealing other peoples hard earned money and/or property defensible!?
airsoftjunkie24 1 month ago
@airsoftjunkie24 It's a simple disagreement. You think a double murder is an appropriate response to petty theft. I however don't, because unlike you I use my brain before acting. There's really nothing left to argue about.
weinstein888 1 month ago
@weinstein888 Why the hell are you avoiding the subject and trying to back out all of a sudden? I never said he should've murdered them. Maybe shoot em in the leg and make em immobile, but not murder them. And that was not the arguement, the arguement was if they wereor weren't on his property, giving him the right to shoot. I proved that they were and you all of a sudden back out.
airsoftjunkie24 1 month ago
@airsoftjunkie24 I'm pretty sure the controversy surrounding this video isn't that he shot them, but KILLED both of them. If he had just injured them enough to get out of harm's way, I have no issue with that, but that's not the argument. The argument is that killing to prevent someone from stealing some random shit is retarded.
weinstein888 1 month ago
@weinstein888 He didnt kill them because they stole "shit" he shot them because they came at him. What can be percieved by your statement is that its ok for people to prey on you and its not ok for you to protect your self or your property. I doubt that you really feel its not okk to protect yourself but thats just the way it sounds. and who ever charges someone with a shotgun is an idiot.
tomsws6 1 month ago
@weinstein888 There you go again changin the subject the "controversy" between YOU and ME was whether or not they were on his property. I proved they were and thats that.
airsoftjunkie24 1 month ago
@lksjgdfkjgsdkgi Because shooting someone in the BACK is self defense.
Mozart1220 1 month ago
@Mozart1220 but those niggers will never rob or steal again ...
Unkraut1960 1 month ago
@Unkraut1960 Well, your bigotry and ignorance is showing.
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Joe Horn rules! Two less scum bags on the streets. I love all the whiney cunts crying how Joe is a racist killer. Boo Fucking Hoo.
TopInfadel 3 months ago
good job joe
cutandshoottx 3 months ago
God bless texas and good people like Joe!!!!
Preppndieseldan 3 months ago
thank you Joe Horn
SuperCk1991 3 months ago
Let's be honest. Joe witnessed these guys commit a crime so it was a fact they where criminals. He also knew they where armed as he saw the crowbar. Plus they where standing on his property and advancing toward him. Joe is obviously a little more paranoid than some people, but was still justified.. especially if he felt he was in danger. You know what's funny? if a woman had done the exact same thing no one would have batted an eye.
sqitso 3 months ago
I would like him as.my neighbor
sourherngalawn 3 months ago 13
@sourherngalawn Amen! this guy rocks! respect to him for this! I don't care what race you are you enter somewhere you don't belong you deserve shot!
gummoboy333 1 month ago
God bless you, Joe Horn. I'd do the same damn thing! I don't give a shit what color skin a burglar has.
ashjeremy07 3 months ago
To be honest I do believe he went out there with full intentions to shoot them.. But they should not have been breaking into someones house.
lilmurphy01 4 months ago
murderer and should have been charged. Says he did not go out to shoot anyone but a) he goes out with a gun and b) he tells the 911 operator he is going to do it..listen to the call..its on here also. Vigilantes are cool in movies but suck in real life. In must any state in the USA you cannot use deadly force to protect property, especially that of another person. If you check out Garner v Tennessee, you will see that police cannot shoot an unarmed felon, fleeing felon; so why can this guy?
arroncop 4 months ago
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BigBodySlam 4 months ago
@arroncop don't rob houses in Texas and you won't get shot
8thEastTexasBlues 3 months ago
@arroncop Castle Doctrine is why. Texas has it, so does OK.
oliverjl350 1 month ago
guys a hero
dave997 4 months ago 2
@controversyking ppl need to open their eyes. the law can b a b!tch in sum places....
fijiankilla 4 months ago
@controversyking What world do you live in? You think whites don't murder, rape ect. Take a look at our well known serial killers, actually a majority of them are white, And Joe Horn just proved the point. You are just one of those that want to turn any conversation into a races debate, I for one love a debate however I choose not to with people that are not intelligent enough to give me a challenge, so sorry can't waste my time on you.
Coolsocks102 5 months ago
@controversyking hell no. thats like sayin if the shooter was black ... would I be happy.... no... cuz 2 ppl are dead. when they should just be in prison
fijiankilla 5 months ago
if they were white. he wouldnt have shot them.
fijiankilla 5 months ago
@fijiankilla You sound like a racist black person.
ibxncgc 4 months ago
Redneck 101-"your dead buddy" means stop. "I had no intentions of coming out er an shootin em sir" - "I'm goin out the door now you hear the shot gun clicking" lol. LMAO. Did he think the 911 call wasn't recorded, why lie?
Coolsocks102 5 months ago
@walkintall29 It is always nice to know we have such kind, considerate and educated people such as yourself out there in our world, definitely makes feel safer! You really should consider running for president. I'm sure you would have a huge amount of redneck 3rd grade dropouts that would find you an excellent candidate.
Coolsocks102 5 months ago
Also, he went outside with intention of shooting, he even states that. Had he stayed inside and allowed trained officials, such as police, to do their job then he wouldnt of had to feel threatened, he should have followed the 911 instructions
Coolsocks102 5 months ago
@Coolsocks102 fuck off. its because u cant shoot them is why these dirty niggers did it to start with. good on him. you shouldnt need a reason to wipe out a fucking nigger
walkintall29 5 months ago
@xxxfirebirdxxx76 I beg to differ, I do not see the lack of logic in that question because that is exactly what Mr. Horn did and did not get charged with. He didnt do an investigation to determine the situation. So If your cousins broke in your house would you want your neighbor to shoot them? He didnt know any of the cicumstances before deciding they should be murdered.
Coolsocks102 5 months ago
He didnt say stop, ive called the police. I have seen the original tape, he says, "hey buddy, you're dead."
BeatsByWeight 5 months ago
@BeatsByWeight the 911 call audio tape with the cell phone he called on in his pocket.
BeatsByWeight 5 months ago
@BeatsByWeight
Real Nice. You've heard the tape and you still got it wrong! He said, "Move, you're dead". Which implies
XXXFirebird76XXX 5 months ago
So does this mean we can shoot anyone running across our yard? I think not!
Coolsocks102 5 months ago
@Coolsocks102 Your question is dumb. Of course it doesn't mean you can shoot "anyone" running across a yard. This situation has very specific details. These guys just weren't people running through his yard, they were crimminals. For all he knew they would have beat him to death for being a witness. I'm not saying the guy was right or wrong, but rather that your question/conclusion lacks logic.
XXXFirebird76XXX 5 months ago
this isn't about race or color. Talk about opportunistic, some ppl scan the forums looking 4 an excuse to say something derogatory about skin color, religion or race. This has nothing 2 do with ppl on welfare, immigrants or skin color. Horn got 2 antsy and worked up & went outside looking 4 trouble, but due 2 the "Castle Law" in TX he has the right 2 defend his property. IMHO Horn should have stayed inside, but criminals know they may get injured or killed during a burglary. Whatever race.
kansas66701 5 months ago
why are people backing this fat dick he was warned like 20 times by the 911 operator not to go outside that the police were on there way, he is an opportunistic murderer.
20cFilmWannabe 5 months ago
One sentence would sum it up. "I was in fear for my life."
MylerM182 5 months ago
@MylerM182 those 2 guys are not even in his property and not even threatening him.
he threatened himself.
jscmky 5 months ago
@jscmky His yard is his property.
MylerM182 5 months ago
@jscmky don't rob houses in texas and you won't get shot
8thEastTexasBlues 5 months ago
@jscmky Horn took out the trash.
RadarGuidedVermin 5 months ago
oops make that two
jjmillr420 5 months ago
Hey u can't blame Joe he seems to have a nice home with valuables that he has worked hard for probably the same with the neighbors i don't think it was a racist choice that he made even if the men were of any other race Joe was going to have justice his way. Well looks like his neighbor owes him one
jjmillr420 5 months ago
I don't think you should kill anyone
conman2317 5 months ago
Thanks for taking out the trash Joe horn!!
dooob69 6 months ago
i need to get me a shotgun...
andrademeza 6 months ago 2
They were illegal immigrants. What rights do they have for a United States civil case. NONE
gotmildew 7 months ago
Europe love Joe Horn.
SouthSlavicCernogor 7 months ago
...ANOTHER RED-NECK IS GOIN' TO HELL............ HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
uItrachile 7 months ago
horn is the opposite of a great american. He ignored the law, and other human beings civil rights. He is an idiot murderer. They were only idiot theives.
beastshawnee 8 months ago
@beastshawnee What r u talking about havent u heard of the "castle law" that says u have the right not to let 2 illegal spics who have no regard for our country can be shot !! Joe horns as american as apple pie !! We deserve to be safe in our own home.Without fear of being killed by two wetbacks.
BizzareCorpse 8 months ago
@BizzareCorpse You might want to take yourself on down and sign up for law school, being such an expert there. Be sure and tell them about your theories about murdering thieves in class, and explain the terms spic and wetback to them so they can help you look in the legal archives for this justification for cold blooded murder. It might take you longer to graduate than you plan on though, so don't order the party invites yet. You'd probably set a record and graduate as their oldest student.
beastshawnee 6 months ago
@beastshawnee Everything i said was true mixed w/opinion.I know u liberals love these poor illegals aww..Listen my grandma came from poland alone thru ellis when she was 14.She didnt rob anybody,she didnt wave the polish flag or commit i.d theft..I really wish a pack of smelly ass wetbacks come into ur home an do God knows what an see how u like paying for there welfare..
BizzareCorpse 6 months ago
@beastshawnee well guess what then jackass.. since your still here arguing about how illegal what he's done is... get this, he's free as ever right now... whether you like it or not.
HoustonTexas457000 3 months ago
@beastshawnee How did he ignore their rights? They were committing a crime and were violating others rights and safety. So he did what he thought was best and shot them as most people down here in Texas would. If we had neighbors like him everywhere I guarantee crime rate would be down substantially.
Bullsi13 7 months ago
@Bullsi13 Even criminals have civil rights. Do not call yourself a patriotic American if you can't agree with that. Only criminals shoot criminals. Let the police and the courts do their jobs.
beastshawnee 7 months ago
@beastshawnee AGREED..well said
missund3rsto0d 6 months ago
Joe Horn deserves electric chair like any other murderer
DatBoyO701 8 months ago
He said STOP! I HAVE CALLED THE POLICE ! Funny what i heard was moveandyourdead(BLAMM BLAMM).
MSG685 9 months ago 2
he was watching porn .
MSG685 9 months ago
if Joe had been in the UK he would be serving a 5 year sentence in jail. like the farmer in the UK god bless America.
ABGAN100 9 months ago
If Joe was black he would be in Prison right now. Truth.
MoraDExplora 9 months ago
fat bastard
krisnnaabraham 9 months ago
Why is it that what ever crime blacks commit, other blacks have every lame ass excuse in the world to try n defend their actions. Had MR. Horn been black and the 2 burglars been black, Quanell X never would have showed up and he knows it. It is only because they were killed by a white person that the panthers showed up, none the the crap that the panthers say is to be believed. The bottom line is this. WITH VIGILANTE JUSTICE, THERE ARE NO REPEAT OFFENDERS!
mrwascaly42 10 months ago
He is sooo worried about what he has done, because, HE KNOWS THAT HE IS WRONG !!!!!! THESE MEN HAD STOLEN PROPERTY AND HE THINKS IT IS OK TO KILL THEM OR MAIM THEM???????????? WTH
Celizamite 10 months ago
Joe Horn is an American Hero.
TheGrandCapt 10 months ago
joe for president
snowwhite149 11 months ago
Good Job Joe
BuddWX 11 months ago
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what a lying son of a bitch
modap3000 1 year ago
Guy should be in prison.....why you leave the house you old bastard? ANd they were shot in the back...just shows you they were running away and his life was never in danger...but he is old so he prolly will be dead soon ..and on his way to hell and ill laugh lol
nyjet2210 1 year ago
@nyjet2210 well the fact that u would rather have criminals roaming the streets than armed citizen defend them selfs and another persons property when they have full right to do so makes me sick. I hope that one day u are getting robbed in your front yard and your neighbor stands at his window with a shotgun and watches the robbers steal ur wallet then blow ur brains all over the driveway.
bobwatters 1 year ago
@bobwatters ok that would be different...his neighbors were not home..no ones life was in danger
nyjet2210 1 year ago
@nyjet2210 wait a second so if ur lights are off ur not home? damn thats crazy i have been asleep with my lights off plenty of times! even early in the night!
So yes what i said was right! You would rather have criminals roam the street rather that armed citizens defend them selfs and their neighbors!
bobwatters 1 year ago
@bobwatters No its in the report...they were an asian family gone ...nooooot home
nyjet2210 1 year ago
@nyjet2210 no shit they were not home!!! thats after this happened dumbass!!! Of course once the cops got there they knew there was no one home! Even if he did know that no one was home its still legal for him defend a third parties property so what is your point!
bobwatters 1 year ago
@bobwatters no they were never home all day...dont even say it doesnt matter cuz it does..and theres no statue saying that you have the right to protect your neibors property,,,yes you can protect them...but not for a tv and some jewlery..what kind of credibility do you have for this argument? did you even go to college?
nyjet2210 1 year ago
@nyjet2210 Yes i have a college education so dont even start that shit especialy since that has nothing to do with this. Thers is no statute? Actualy there is a statue that says if they are visibly leaving with property then you have the right to stop them using deadly force. So yea just b.c u dont like the law and u would rather ur neighbors stand around and do nothing while criminals rob ur house dosent mean that its not there.
bobwatters 1 year ago
@bobwatters Noooooo I mean credibility in the field of Law...I do...and yes it has alot to do with this..lol and what statue says you can use deadly force with property from your neighbor??I looked it up and in texas you have every right to protect yourself and your personal property...not your neighbor..so he was wrong..but found innocent by his peers so it dont matter we can argue all day..take care old man
nyjet2210 1 year ago
@nyjet2210 yea b/c ur a youtube lawyer now i guess. and u didnt look hard enough its their and thats why he was found innocent
bobwatters 1 year ago
@bobwatters not "their" but 'there"...and no im not a lawyer...i know there isnt a staute for that...when you find it let me know..nite :)
nyjet2210 1 year ago
@nyjet2210 hey retard its not a "statue" ......its called a STATUTE meaning a: "written law passed by a governing body"
Not a statue, meaning ....well.....a statue... you fucking MORON!!!!
dumb boof and you're the one asking about peoples education ha ha ha ....retard "did you even go to college"?
don't wonder into my yard
fzappa007 11 months ago
@fzappa007 Yes I graduated from UCLA....and im willing to bet money its a more prestige school you went to or think about going to...so what I forgot the T...Im sure I spelled other words incorrectly...I type fast and I dont proof read youtube comments..I know its statute..I wrote several IRAC papers...please please tell me what school you went to..lol junior college!! clap clap clap clap clap junior college!!! lolooololool
nyjet2210 10 months ago
@nyjet2210
It matters not that you graduated from UCLA, You present yourself as a graduate from ROMPER-ROOM...I am sure that TV program is before you time so I will briefly explain it. Romper Room was early morning black and white TV show in the early 60's geared towards pre-kindergarten aged children. It was to developed to keep the kids busy while "mom" kissed "dads" ass and got him off to work. It was basically a kindergarten class on TV.
fzappa007 10 months ago
@nyjet2210 , You're willing "to bet money" ??? now how could you,- as a retarded TROLL- know what university I attended?? I would be happy to provide you with - certs & dox - from this little place in Massachusetts called M.I.T. ...if I need to explain what M.I.T. signifies then this conversation is over.
And back to the point BOOFER wonder into my yard and I might just pull a "Joe Horn" on you dumb ass, go back to kissing -quanell x-'s ass...made-up name retard..
fzappa007 10 months ago
@fzappa007 yeah you attended.......not graduate...cuz if you did you would brag about what degree you graduated with....and you must be uneducated using a word called boofer lol....your a dumb redneck who drives trucks for a living....and I know for a fact your well into your 40s...youll be dead soon...so i dont care...goodbye
nyjet2210 10 months ago
im glad u killed those fools mr. horn.....they deserved that fate for what they were doing!
HtownTom 1 year ago
Shot in the back WOW i can't believe he got off scot free i find that astonishing especially with the phone call
keflar5 1 year ago
@keflar5 even though they were in his yard! he even said they jumped and he shot! they shouldnt have jumped!
bobwatters 1 year ago
So he comes out with a shotgun in his hand, pointed at them, and he felt threatened? This is such shit!!! He shot them in the back for crying out loud!!!!!!!
eisforme 1 year ago
@eisforme those fucking pussies would have ended up killing someone innocent if they had kept on busting into houses. I would have shot them too.
bantermelon 1 year ago
He did not say stop he has called the police,he never said that to them lie.He said move your dead then shot that's what he said.
kaizenx68 1 year ago
So just to be clear: his theory is that he saw a robbery taking place. He didnt "want this in his neighborhood". He was inside, doors locked, windows closed, w/ police on the way...and w/ a shotgun on his lap. But he's afraid. SO afraid in fact, that he goes outside, to tell the guys hes afraid of to freeze. Then shoots them in the back. I get it. Its very clear. He was afraid they were going to run from that house, and into his.. All that plus cop told him 14 times NOT to go outside. wow.
nitewlker 1 year ago
@nitewlker do you even live in texas you need to get your facts straight he never said he was to scared to go outside. what he did say was that he was going outside to try to see where they were and if he could get some more information for the cops and that before this he had been on the phone with 911 and they hung up on him.if you had knew the facts you would know where they came out was right next to where he was standing and the one he shot was not in the back both were shot in the chest.
361bryan 1 year ago
@361bryan
Good Guess. NO Im not from TX. But feel free to go to my channel. You will find the link that takes you the Houston Newspaper. The same Houston Newspaper that reported the findings made by the coroner that examined the bodies. The paper reports, that his report CONCLUDED, that both men... wait for it.... WERE SHOT IN THE BACK. .... so let me ask you. Where do YOU get your facts from?
Also let me know if you want the OFFICIAL transcript of the 911 call. The same call where
nitewlker 1 year ago
@361bryan he was told NOT TO GO OUTSIDE. Told almost FIFTEEN (15) times NOT to go outside. ... But no, not Mr. Neighborhood hero. ... he wanted to go outside. But then says he was scared...does that make sense to you. What did Mr. Horn or you think the robbers were gonna do? Rob the house and then go to his house and "hang out."
Also in the TRANSCRIPT you can see/read that he said several times, "im not gonna let them get away with this shit." .. again, Mr. Neighborhood hero took the law into
nitewlker 1 year ago
@361bryan his own hands. Only a truly ignorant, below intelligent man would be inside his own home, protected with doors and a shot gun, but then claim he went outside....TOWARDS THE DANGER because he was scared. ... if you believe that, than I got water front land in Oklahoma I'd like to sell ya'.
I ALSO have the link to the full call. ..where it is clear, that he was not "hung up" on. And even if he was, he was told not to go outside, and wasnt REQUIRED TO. He didn't know the neigbhors.
nitewlker 1 year ago
@361bryan you can also see/read/hear from the transcript that he said " I don't know if they have a weapon, I know they have a crowbar they used to break the window." So again, this OLD man, inside his home, with a shot gun on his lap, doesn't know if they have a weapon is scared just from watching. So scared, that he goes outside. ... I wonder if he were watching a T5 tornado whirling down the street, if he'd get in his car and drive towards it... out of fear of course.
Good try Bryan...
nitewlker 1 year ago
why yall gotta make this a racial issue? I wouldve shot anybody dead as fuck for breaking in mine or my neighbors house, dont matter if they were white black yellow or green... its always cuz they're BLACK LMAO! its cuz they were piece of shit criminals dumb fucks
Brent80sBaby 1 year ago
What an idiot. He claims he said, "Stop. I have called the police". What, he thinks the 911 call wasn't recorded? You didn't say that, freak!
Listen to how hyped he sounds... excited and proud of what he did. STAY IN YOUR FUCKING HOUSE LIKE YOU WERE TOLD!!!
Or, wth, go to prison, I don't care.
youthecat 1 year ago
@youthecat quit your crying faggot. joe horns the man. your a pussy bitch.
norjak71 1 year ago
he diddent want to shoot them & was in fear of his life so he whent outside his house with a loaded shotgun to confront 2 strangers he's suposed to be afraid of.does that makes sense.on the 911 call he says nothing about being afraid just anger that there getting away with his neighbours (who he does not know) belongings.think about that.
sdavis732010 1 year ago
fuck that fat redkneck cousinfucker.he was on his computer looking for childporn when there were 2 BLACK guys (not just guys) then decided to stick his nose into someoneelses problem & whent outside ignoreing advice to play the hereo by shooting 2 guys running away in the back like the coward he is yelling your dead (listen to the audio because thets what he says) then runs inside. what a fucking duchebag.
sdavis732010 1 year ago
This is great, thanks a lot for posting it. Joe is clearly scared out of his mind.. but he did the right thing.
arcooke 1 year ago
Neighbor like you Joe horn...You did the right thing.Ignorant people just made this into a race issue Quanell X...there's a true fuck'n racist!..I'm hispanic and praise you for what you did...You are a True American!We work too damn hard for some crackheads to come steal our property!Go Joe Horn!!!
SuperLvgirl 1 year ago
Hell Nah..he is NOT racist!We love Joe Horn here in Pasadena Tx...I wish i had a Neighbor like you Joe horn...You did the right thing.Ignorant people just made this into a race issue Quanell X...there's a true fuck'n racist!..I'm hispanic and praise you for what you did...You are a True American!We work too damn hard for some crackheads to come steal our property!Go Joe Horn!!!
SuperLvgirl 1 year ago
Fucking racist old murderer
GTSRBOY 1 year ago
Neighbor like you Joe horn...You did the right thing.Ignorant people just made this into a race issue Quanell X...there's a true fuck'n racist!..I'm hispanic and praise you for what you did...You are a True American!We work too damn hard for some crackheads to come steal our property!Go Joe Horn!!!
SuperLvgirl 1 year ago
great job horn thats 2 criminals off the streets
ChromeGhost0219 2 years ago 42
@ChromeGhost0219
So simple minded....what if it was your kids. That went into a neighbors backyard because their ball went over the fence like many kids do. And your kids happen to look older than what they are like most do these days; some 16yr olds have full beards.. And Joe Horn sees them running out the back yard with their ball, and shoots them dead.... Would you still think "great job horn." Probably NOT.
nitewlker 1 year ago
@nitewlker no, but if they broke into someone's house like those cock suckers did I would have
ChromeGhost0219 1 year ago
@nitewlker you can dream up any scenario you want.....they broke into someones house with a crowbar and stole their hard earned things. and now they are dead for it. end of story
kris40oz123 1 year ago
Sure, they turned out to be robbers in fact, but what if it was another scenario like the one below? That's why the law is in place. There are many other situations that too an "untrained" eye would seem like something is not. Lucky for Joe, they were robbers. And luckily he made up the story of fear and all that other nonsense which Texas law allows. But how great would it have been if those 2 guys were family of the home owner. And better yet, the home owner had consented to them breaking the
nitewlker 1 year ago
window. And the h/o came to court and said "yes, I told them to break the window because it was an emergency." Good ol' Joe would be in Prison right now for first degree murder= the Intentional killing of another human being with premeditation and deliberation which in fact causes death.... He'd live out the rest of his sorry, racist, life in General Population..... Too bad I wasn't the Prosecutor on this case. Too bad.
nitewlker 1 year ago
@nitewlker I seriously hope you are not a real da. You hope on the death of innecent people so you can put a man with good intentions on trial ?Im sure the family of the victims would have broke in and not pulled someone out of the house but yet came out with a bag of stuff. we are defending ourselves these days because we cant depend on criminal justice system because you set criminals free more then you lock them up. You would rather put law-abiding citizens on trial.
kris40oz123 1 year ago
@ChromeGhost0219
not just that, two criminals off the streets, out of the jails, and away from sucking up our tax money
thanks Mr. Horn!
hogo1 6 months ago 2
Whoever put this video out....How bout bleepin his fucking birthday out. It could help steal his info..
TILLEYJS 3 years ago
On June 30, 2008, the grand jury declined to indict Mr. Horn in the shooting incident.
TYX91101 3 years ago
"Hey joe, what ya doin' with that gun in your hand? I'm gonna shoot two scumbags, I saw them breaking into another man's pad" =P
eltrut96 3 years ago
hey joe.. you are a real american...
hiredgun30 3 years ago 32
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@hiredgun30
What if it was your kids. That went into a neighbors backyard because their ball went over the fence like many kids do. And your kids happen to look older than what they are like most do these days; some 16yr olds have full beards.. And Joe Horn sees them running out the back yard with their ball, and shoots them dead.... Would you still think "you are a real american" Probably NOT.
nitewlker 1 year ago