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  • What these widows and orphans need is not a temporary shelter. They need villages made up of their population to shield them from the mysogynism of their society with healthcare, education, and psychological counseling to help them stay strong as they combat the dominant culture. They've basically been robbed of personhood if they have to depend on male relatives to function normally.

  • Religion Kills !!!!!!!!

  • everyone needs to stop mixing religion with culture! oppressing women isnt a religious issue but rather a cultural issue. THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CULTURE AND RELIGION. sheesh.

  • Death to religion. Everywhere

  • USA and NATO moms and daughters can be found on P O R N H U B DOT C O M .....these seeds are being sown in your country afghans wake up

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  • por que no pasa al reves?

    why only the women?

    why so much hate to the women?

    the only form to know is that the men do and feel like a women feel when has to depend of the man and had to dress like that.

  • Its so funny to see idiotic, stupid people who relate islam to everything.

    These people have no intrest in reading the quran and hadith for themselves rather, they'll copy and paste from "scholorly" hate sites .

    Moronic people will always exist.

  • she s complaining in the shelter, with food piling up in front of her, incredible,

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  • lol at "Red Crescent".

    Perhaps if their men didn't die a meaningless death, as he was trying to set up a road side bomb in the night...

    It would have saved us cannon rounds, and saved them a whole lot of trouble.

    And is every Muslim who watches this video incapable of seeing how oppressive Islam actually is?

  • Honestly I'm not one to hate on religion, but listen to all you fucks. YOUR FIGHTING OVER WHOS GIANT INVISIBLE MAN EXISTS. NONE of you have any idea what the fuck your religion is about. I'm fine with religion because each one basically says to be a good person, but for some reason humans need to create competition for themselves. Don't judge based on misinformation, and it seems as though none of you read up on the other side of the story. FUCK CHINESE PEOPLE AND BUDDHISM!!!!

  • The viel is often seen as a symbol of oppression of men over women, but I think it protects the latter from FORMER's oppression. West speaks of oppression, but this video only shows an amalgam of culture and religion, which is quite opposite to Islam. West's own society has among the highest rape crime rates in the world, and its liberalism has never controlled it.

  • the reason these women arent allowed to show their faces is because there so dam ugly.

  • Costoffplus: your mom is a bitch, I'm sure she's got some fucking blow job face

  • why do women have to look nice there? Theres no motivation

  • Costoffplus: you're so racist as well as ignorant. They do live a harsh live, but that's because of the Chrisitan wars that destroyed Afghanistan. You don't get to decide for them, to have to look nice or not. I mean look at your own picture, you're ugly as hell. you look so Iranian to me. are you? is that why you hate Afghanistan?

    Anyways, watch the video again, and see how the woman is being sad that her husband was killed in the war.

  • look whos talkin i think u need to cover ur face more then they do

    forth fag of jones brother

    lol

  • WaqasRashid: women in some islamic societies are executed as adulterers for being raped. In others their families perform an honour killing. How can you honestly say that rape statistics in any muslim society are credible.

    Rape is a worldwide phenomenon. We, at least, are honest about it.

  • As far as adultery's concerned, a women accused of adultery in Isam is not penalized or executed unless a certain number of pious men bear witness to her being malicious.

    There are certain criteria which are judged before this decision is made.

    I know many countries where these procedures aren't even followed, but that doesn't depict what Islam says.

  • Islam is often depicted by the Westerners as a religion that oppresses women by ordering them to cover their heads, and throughout history, the same viel has adapted many forms, including burqa, scarf or just a dupatta (covering head only). I believe any of them can be followed as long as they meet the criteria.

  • What Muslims do and don't doesn't reflect the teachings of Islam, especially in modern times. You can not judge Islam merely because Muslim countries have high crime or rape rates. Islam should be judged by studying it, not by analyzing the state of affairs in Islamic countries, because none of the countries fully practice its teachings.

    As far as rape and honour killing's concerned, honour killing is a completely forbidden practice taught by culture not religion.

  • One more liberal moron, you are! Muhammad was a war criminal. There are over 140 verses in the Quran which preach violence against the nonbelievers.

  • Muhammad (SAW) only resorted to killing non-believers when they threatened the integrity of Muslims. There is another worse in the Quran that says something to this effect: "To them their beliefs and to you yours." Allah gives guidance, coercion and forcing to comply doesn't. The Muslims only fight when the non-believers  threaten them or their religion. Many other religions, including Christianity, have the most bloodiest records of being war criminals.

  • @AdiZetaFunction Yeah, and about whole books in the Bible dedicated to war and violence. get over yourself; nearly all religions advocate violence. Read the Bible and you'll notice the Quran is a lot less violent. I say this as a Catholic.

  • and i might be a liberal but i understand the mistakes of both sides, west and east

    but you guys just refuse to look in to yourself

  • n my comment i emphasised that it was NOT the religion which taught this it was the afghan perception of the religion and culture.now you can be myopic and call the west bastards, or you can accept that this kind of treatment is oppressive to the particulr gender, is it the fault of that particular woman that she was born a woman? why should she be opressed because a bunch of idiot uneducated mullahs think its the "right" thing to do?

  • jeepo its not about being a liberal pakistani

    if something is wrong then its wrong, if women are treated like this in a culture than its not the religion, its the culture, if there is certain un fair treatment allowed in the religion and your condoning it, then that is wrong too

  • funny world we live in

  • misogynist ignorant soulless fuckers. I'm craving hardboiled eggs again dammit. Im off to the 24-7 supermarket , PMS sucks.

  • oforfuckssakes the WhoWhaReligionHatesWomenLess argument is *REALLY* fucking annoying, look people here's the deal: All religion is stupid and makes people WORSE because it requires them to think along unnatural and illogical lines and to unquestioningly accept Unanimously patently Ridiculous and Ancient I.E. outdated and Irrelevant dogma. Give it up people, get smart, become atheists, and stop hating women especially since you wouldnt exist without them you nasty little impotent

  • The woman was happy with her husband, just like most, but the Americans killed her husband!

    Her young son helped his family until he was killed by a driver, maybe an American one! THEN her life became miserable.

    Again she was happy with her husband, and living in peace, until the U.S invaded that country and destroyed the lives of these women.

    she didn't complain about how bad her husband was, other wise she would consider his death as her freedom, but some people are too ignorant to see that

  • I know Bush and the neocons suck hard, but sorry I really think the society she lived in is more evil, well at least the fascist psycho misogynist pig men. *vomits at them*

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  • I would kill myself if I was born into this part of the world as a woman. No offsense to everyone from that part of the world honestly, but I would just end it, and Id probably take down all the evil men around me as I did.

  • if the Christian women were raised as Muslims women were, and if only the western socity has the values of the Muslims, then we wouldn't see their women flashing their boobs all over the internet, and creating AIDS.

    Why don't the Christians teach their women to cover up? Women in the west are nothing but sex objects

  • Very often one is tempted to say, why bother with Afghanistan, they don't want help from the West and our kids are getting killed for nothing. Do they want Western help or don't they?

  • jeepo88

    your response is very myopic, to the rest

    i am a muslim, this is not the religion, a careful distinction needs to be made between the religion and the culture in most developing countries, in most religious tribal societies women are opressed, because its the culture, not necessary the religion, its always good to debate about religion, but i feel people start to get offensive and start defending their religion to the point of idiocy.

    anyhow, this seems like a more healthy argument here

  • Agreed, and thank you for posting this.

  • saadis12,

    what the hell are you talking about you Paki, what's the point that you're trying to make?

    I'm not surprised, because I know exactly what the liberal Pakies are like. I hate ass kissers

  • jeepo88...."you Paki"????

    women are creating AIDS by flashing their boobs all over the internet?

    your values are rather in need of an overhaul yourself, jeepo

    Western people never said they're perfect (as muslims are want to do) but life is a learning experience and we much prefer to have our freedom to be wrong than be slaves to a religion which has been invented by another mortal who just wanted some power and women and whose morals were most definitely wanting.

  • marwon8: enough of your non-sense, and tell us who you are! Are an atheist, a Jew, or christian? how come talk about how good Jesus teaching, while you are an atheist! Does Jesus's teaching tells you to not believe in god?

    by the way, I meant that the Western society takes the #1 credit for AIDS, thanks to their slutty women, who are free do all kind of dirty stuff once they turn 18. Western society has no values, I lived there, and I know that all they care about is sex and getting drunk

  • jeepo88, your attitude sucks, your comments suck, it's not my fault if about the company you kept, it's your own. no one forced you, did they?

    What I believe in has nothing to do with being a decent human being. If you need someone (religion) to tell you to behave properly, I pity you. I read things for guidance, for inspiration, not for telling me what to do.

  • marwon8: What exactly are you trying to point out? you're not clear!

    I am writig all of this to remind those ignorant Christians, who wrote stupid comments of some of the horrible stuff about Christianity and Western society as a whole.

    You guys look silly making false accusations about Islam while Western society has a lot of problems of it's own.

    I was only reminding those evil and ignorant Christians of their own problems

  • I have a great answer to all the intolerance stupidity and war. very simple. ERADICATE THE Y CHROMOSOME!!!!!!!!!

    Men are soulless.

  • ariannnahiggins: I totally disagree with you! Afghanistan went through long wars (thanks to the evil Christians who are blood hungry), thus, it is very unstable, and the environment is harsh and tough even for men, and it is worse for the Afghan women.

    What this video doesn't say is that the woman's husband, and all of the women in shelter were killed by the Americans. The United States, and George Bush are the ones responsible for the misery of these women.

  • That's what the evil religion of Christianity wants other religions to live like.

    Christianity is afraid of Islam because it is the true religion, and it tries desperately to make it look bad in the media.

    Islam will prevail, and it will still be the #1 fastest growing religion in the world, because Christianity is full of hate and bullshit

  • jeepo88....can you hear yourself talking at all? YOU are the one who is promoting hatred. In your case against Christianity. I see and hear this propaganda against Christianity over and over again. If you have a Quran, read it and substitute every occurence of the words Jew, Christian, non believer with the word muslim. Then tell me who hates whom.

  • how am I promoting hate, when I see the ignorant Christians accuse us of all sort of things that you guys are guilty of. you guys are disgusting as well as very stupid. Christianity is bunch of stupid and bullshit ideas, perhaps that's why so many people in the West are Atheists

  • Actually all Judaic/Christian/Muslim religions are useless. In this I exclude the teachings of Jesus because they have not been properly understood. When you say Christianity is full of bullshit ideas you are most likely using those ideas which have been fed to you. Also, you might think people in the West are atheists while most really do have their own beliefs. Which is what everyone should do - follow their inner self because we are born knowing what is right and what is wrong.

  • jeepo88, and - what exactly are "you guys" (Christians) guilty of???  I am talking about today, not yesterday or 1000 years ago.

  • a corrupt country along with a corrupt religion, there is no hope

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  • That's very sad because the bible actually says that your suppose to help the widowed. The bible was inspired by God and in the muslum religion "Allah" is God. So the fact that they would mistreat their widowed women is beyond me and in my opinion contrary to how God or "Allah" would want the widowed to be treated. Exodus 22:22-24:

  • Says: You people must not afflict any widow or fatherless boy.

  • hahahahahaha, i read your comment then read your profile name, hahahahah. so either your making a really long educated joke that only you and a few friends laugh at, or you don't understand that when people think "slave bunny" they immediately picture either a bunny in chains, or a high class prostitute. either way, thanks.

  • lol my name has nothing to do with it and it's not a joke! Slave Bunny - because I work alot and not for me but mostly for my family/mortgage/bills/etc, etc. Kind of like Busy Bee type of thing. I think this is sad, the way they are treated... like outcasts just because they are widowed. The bible says in the old testament in Exodus "you must not afflict any widow or fatherless boy."

  • In my opinoin the whole terrirost thing is caused by 1 thing religous beliefs im not saying its wrong to belive in something im just saying to keep your belifs to your self and don't try to enforce them on others hopefully the next generation wont be as bad as us

  • Unfortunately she spent most of her money on ornate oil paintings of her family...

  • America and Russia are responsible for the plight of these widows and orphans. These are countries that elect criminals as their leaders. So the world has to pay for the crimes of the American voters or the Russian voters.

  • Where does Jesus advocated the beating of slaves & the killing of disobediant children?

  • America, has the highest rate of homeless people in the world, and yet it is supposedly the most powerful western country! your system if fucked up.

    Christians rape women in Churches, there are too many scandals about this, why don't we see this on the western Media?

    I can go on and on, listing horrible things about Christianity and the western culture, if someone interested, just reply to my comment

  • There are always isolated incidents in any country, but over all the quality of life is much better in Western countries. Just compare the life expectancy. Furthermore, why are middle eastern countries copying western ones? Internet, cars, television, all created in western countries

  • all valid points, but if you go back in history you'd be surprised to find out that in fact Muslims are the one who exported science and technology to Europeans, as they were bunch of savages who knew nothing. We built Europe, but they turned against us and took advantage of Muslims because we are too nice.

    We don't have enough money to spend on education, as well as we're not as politically stabled (thanks to the westerners), otherwise we would surpass you by far\ in science and technology!

  • Science did not come from Muslims.  The Muslim religion is not even that old. I dont know who the first group of people to use perfect rational thinking, but i know that the Greeks influence was long before Islam existed or Christianity.

  • I agree thats exactly what I been thinking this whole time

  • While Christian theocracy set the intelligesia, libraries and universities aflame in the dark ages and inquisition, muslims were saving the world's knowledge for when the west would deliver itself from the insanity of Christianity. Read a history book...

  • Let's see, one of the problems with Christian people is that they don't like to face reality. they like to critisize other religions and cultures, while American and Christian women are bitches, and prostututes. American women flash their boobs all over the internet, they get rapped and killed by gangs, their families abandon them when the turn 18????

    and they become drug addicts, and alcoholics, man, fuck Christians & Christianity, I would never want to be one

  • Isn't that westerners in general? Lesser form, Christians? Or are you saying that most westerners are Christians? I'm confused by your comment

  • I don't know "kgonepostl", I would like you to tell me the difference! for us middle eastern, we are both Arabs and Muslims, therefore i assume that Westerns are/and Christians are the same, or at least live under Christianity teachings and Christian governments

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  • This should be the worst cuntry in the world to live in, I feel so sad for this poor women.

  • Thats why Islam doesnt work

  • you are exactly right... they treat women as property, not as a human being... if they could solve this little issue then the world would be a better place...

  • last i checked when i was in afganistan pakistan and dubai and saudi arabia ...you disrespect a women in any way you get your ass handed to you... you see the reason you see these videos is becuase helps people realize that there is bad out there and we have to fix it... unfortunately afganistan got bombed like all hell killing innocent people like no tomorrow ...making afgan the highest widow country.., and islam teaches to respect women ..the people who treat them bad have not studied islam

  • it all depend on education level and understanding of religion.

    better one will always treat in best manner...

  • Islam has a different understanding of what is respecting women. In the Koran you can actually read instructions on beating women. I'm not making this up, just go and check it out.

  • In what context? does the holly Quran tell Muslims to beat women at no reason? read it and find out, because saying general things, make you stupid and ignorant just like morst Christians.

    by the way, have you read your own bible, I'm sure you did not, because there are some horrible sexual words and disgusting ideas about women. you can watch a video about it in a debate on google video

  • jeepo88,

    Before calling other people ignorant for the discordance of their comments pay attention to what you are saying. Firstly, the Koran (or Qur' an, or Alcoran) does explicitly instructs men to beat their wifes. By the way, I also read the Bible and I also find very disgusting things in it. What makes you say my "own bible"? Just because I made a statement on the Koran that you didn't like I must be, therefore, "stupid and ignorant just like most Christians"? Or even a Christian? Bad guess

  • a2zguitar:

    If you want to have constructive discussion, then you must show the evidence and the full context about beating women in the holly Quran.

    You are so wrong on this. I don't care what you see on TV, and what your media is feeding you, you tottaly misunderstood the context and the real purpose behind this.

    Does Christianity protect the virginity of women, when they are not married? does Christianity teaches women to cover up their flush among men? Why the West has AIDS and Rape?

  • 1.

    Man, you're really something!

    from the holly Qur'an, 4. An-Nisa (Women), 32.

    Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard.

    Read on...

  • lol sorry for the double rely :p just wanted to say all men are stonger then women

  • 2.

    As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).

    Does anyone notice the submission that is expected from women toward their husbands, or is it just me? Don't call me on Christianity. I'm not here to defend it. Why are you associating me with it? I don't get it.

  • what the hell this whole time thier religion was telling them to beat thier wives thats part of the problem (no offense to any muslims who are reading them)

  • not that i don't agree or anything but theres no use fighting about it both Christianity and muslims have thier fine points and bad points

  • those guys are animals... but with micro-dicks. They should need a good ol' fashioned American-prison raping. Let em' know how it feels to be the bitch.

  • Truly heartbreaking. I wish I could help somehow...

  • Ne mutlu TURKUM DIYENE NE MUTLU MUSLUMANIM DIYENE YA ALLAH

  • better than being a womans world

  • This is not Islam. Islam was one of the first religions to GIVE rights to widows and women. Ironic isn't it? The people who treat these women so poorly are the worthless extremists. You might ask "is the whole country extremists" Simply, No i think if you had a gun to your head you would follow the directions of the person with the gun very closely. If Muhammad saw this he would most certainly be disappointed. Just for the record im not Muslim, im just reading about Islam very heavily recently.

  • As a muslim and as an Afghan i would definetly agree with your statement...

  • Muhammed had a wife that was 12 years old, you have a fucked up religion.

  • Indeed, Muhammed was 54 when he consumated his marriage with a 9 year old girl, and that's horrid. But its no more horrid than the fact that Jesus advocated the beating of slaves & the killing of disobediant children. ALL of the Abrahamic religions are "fucked up". But thats because human beings are barbaric, greedy idiots.

  • why are the jews fucked up?

  • Ever take a look at the slaughter Jews have waged both today & historically? They have repeatedly raped & pillaged the living shit out of their neighbors, or economically preyed upon their host countries and then scream martyr when they were vengenced upon. Their own God despises their behavior according to their scriptures!

  • AND the less religious as well NATURALLY

  • Atheistscholar: honestly, I entirely agree with you, except *most* humans arent barbaric and stupid naturally ...if only we trusted human nature a bit more, its natural (innate genetic) laws. Theres an interesting correlation between violence and poverty and social chaos; the more cohesive and affluent a society, generally tyhe less violence and mysogyny.

  • just shows u don't have any knowledge and your mind is consumed by the media that tells you what is right and wrong.brother before u argue and right false arguement that u do not know of, then please do not write it.look up what islam is about.islam was the first to give women rights, islam gave us algebra, look this up and you will be amazed, the process or stages of fertilization is described in the holy quran at time when no men knew what science even reall was.u will see more only if u read.

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  • yeah sure islam gave rights to women and then gave the right to a man to have 4 wives and he can beat his wife!!! and the first religon to give women rights was Christianity.

  • When did that happen? Must have been very recently. As far as I know Christian women are required to submit to their father and or their husband. The Bible says if widowed she is required to marry her brother-in-law, no matter how many wives he already has. Don't confuse Christianity with the good brought us by secular means. If not for The Enlightenment this could be our lives, our daughter's lives, our mother's lives. Learn something before you spout off.

  • Please elaborate..no really...i need to know why you think that.

    I on the other hand am actually taking a course on the 3 monotheistic religions...i would know.

    So please tell me more about Christianity giving rights to women first.

  • all of you Mother Fucking Christians who believe that god had a son, and who treats black people as second class citizens, you better know facts about your own fucking religion, Christianity was and still the bloodiest religion of all three.

    Fuck Christianity, Fuck the bible

  • Women have to unite behind putting an end to these outrages. What the middle east does to women is inexcusable. Have these men have no shame?!

  • Thanks for sharing. Wish the world was more fair.

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