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  • Every time I hear news like this, it draw me more closer to GOD, it just shows that He is a Sovereign God who reveals the truth to let us know He is real.Glory be to GOD in the highest!!!

  • Found something old in the sand? Start killing eachother and claim your ancestry NOW!

  • Awesome love it when they find God's word .

  • @RangerX413 yes, most of it, have you?

  • "we are money grabing bastards, and dont follow this stupid religion, save yourselfs now!!"

  • if I wanted to BS someone in 2011 I'd bury the MIT manufactured texts in say 1998 and unearth them in oh let's say 2011..? moi, a skeptic..?

  • So? it's writen in an early form of chaldean?

  • Archeology is great but the dating system is bullshit !

    Dating in archeology is not an exact science.So they can say what they want. And that's what they do!

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  • Take that atheists!!

  • @2skullscrushing you are a believer and youre username is : skull crushing ? And for a believer you are provoking enough !

    I wonder what Christ would think of you?

    But i know YOU DONT CARE !

  • @segomil its 2 skulls crushing, and you dont know what it means and you are prejudging? its a left / right paradigm reference. or democrat/republican, or black/white yin/yang. its divide and conquer. But you got it all figured out, so i guess i better worry what yahushua thinks of me, someone that prays to him all the time to forgive people like you.

  • @2skullscrushing hold on... I do believe in this worlds past, but this discovery still doesn't prove anything except for the fact that whoever wrote on that pottery knew stories from the bible, or vice versa(if you go back a bit and thing of the sumerian texts, namely, the flood, which was also in the bible).. if you want toget closer to the truth, go as far in the past as humanly possible.

  • @JPBeViL Abraham came from sumer area, which is where the gilgamesh stories where found. So they where knowing the flood story in Sumer while Abraham was there. Which was I'm sure an old story even then. Since every handed down story, was in oral form, who's to say one of noahs ancestors, in sumer, didnt change the names to update the old tale? Or that the real names of noah and his family were forgotten over time? because remember when moses wrote the first books, God dictated that to him.

  • @2skullscrushing A better explanation is that there are accounts of a great flood. Moses writes the most accurate or 'official' account. This is observed today. There are accounts of WW2 written in 1950. (some not even perfectly accurate but okay), then very good documented accounts in 1955. In 1970s BBC did some of the most extensive and accurate accounts ever made.

  • @TheRightOffensive probably true in instances, but ww2 doesnt have a world and evil working against its truth.

  • @2skullscrushing I see what you mean though I have to say its only 2012 and about 100 'online atheist characters' here on YT insist that Hitler was a 'Christian' and a 'Capitalist'. We used to say 'We shall never forget' but just a generation later it's becoming 'We will revise and rewrite it'. Ugh.

  • @TheRightOffensive Just dont forget, the Nazi funders and keepers of that ideology are STILL running things.Most arent aware of a declassified document discovered at the end of ww2. Intelligence report no.EW-Pa 128. It was kept classified til '96. And it shows that the nazi party were industrialists.They planned to infiltrate the corporate world in the U.S. & we helped with operation paperclip. Companies like IBM,Dupont,& Ford. Nazi front companies. hard to believe, but true. 4th riech coming.

  • Israel the literal physical place does not exist ( ask any real Jew not a cultural jew or a zionist ) they will tell you that Israel is a land that only exists if you can find the path to it from within.

    Israel is a place for all those that have found DAATH & know the path to heaven, they are known as Israelite`s and can now ascend Jacobs ladder. Israel & Jew are holy title bestowed by God not birth rite or nation.

    Interesting that the trinity of man is mentioned on this artifact ...... a clue

  • Archaeology only reinforces what is already known to all -

    Jerusalem was the capital city of Israel

    Jerusalem is the capital city of Israel

    Jerusalem will be for eternity the capital city of Israel!

  • Please read the book I recommend.

    The House of the Messiah by Ahmed Osman.

  • The identification of David in the Mesha stele remains controversial, at least partly from the fragmentary state of line 31.

    There is much evidence of a King Omri who is hardly mentioned in the Bible at all!

    However,

    If you want to know the facts about the David and Goliath story I recommend:

    The House of the Messiah by Ahmed Osman.

  • @mgketteridge

    The fact that David and Omri are mentioned at all in the stele and scripture confirms the consistency of the historical relevance and reference.

  • @mgketteridge

    Also I would recommend

    Who Wrote the Bible? by Richard Elliot Friedman Professor of Hebrew literature

  • Many academicians have noted the similarities between the most famous Ancient Egyptian folktale The Autobiography of Sinuhe and the biblical account of David and Goliath Your case is not proven as Egyptian myths go back to 2000 - 3500 BCE The Merneptah Stele and Mesha Stele you refer to are only 840 BCE.

    Cuniform script preceded Egyptian Hieroglyphs which preceded Sumerian scripts from which Hebrew is derived.

  • @mgketteridge

    You've missed my point which isn't about the type of script or age of the artefacts. I'm pointing out that the steles report events that actually happened and people who really did exist in terms that are consistent with what's recorded in Judaeo-Christian scripture.

  • why are you guys talking about jews everyone who belived in god the jews believed in him first everyone back then who believed in god was a jew then jesus came and they made christality and stuff guys stop being so dumb a pick up a bible

  • UGH i hate those fucking people!!

    Don't you dare of stealing the name Scoopy Doo, And change it to Scoopy Jew!

  • Hebrew is not the "oldest language".

    What about Sanskrit?

    Where did Chinese come from?

    King David is a Hebrew myth borrowed from an even older Egyptian myth!

    Has he not heard of Egyptians hieroglyphics?

    The man is trying to back up Jewish claims to a home land - a land that was once Judah (south) and Israel (north). Its about time that it was split up again fairly between the Palestinians and the Jews to end this stupidity.

  • @mgketteridge

    You are mistaken in that King David is NOT "a Hebrew myth borrowed from an even older Egyptian myth".

    Search: Merneptah Stele and Mesha Stele. BOTH prove that Israel and its history are NOT an invention of scripture and events recorded on both stones are strongly consistent with what's been recorded in the bible. Line 31 of the Mesha Stele, dated about 840 BC, bears the phrase "the house of David".

  • How can some people still base their beliefs on tales that were written when everyone tought the earth was flat?

  • This is just another example of the revealing science of God. Israel is just where she is supposed to be since 1948. What other "nation" has returned to its homeland after being exiled 2000 years before? There isn't one. What other "scholarly, preistly people" has God claimed to and for mankind? They'll find other objects that will confirm The Word of God. What archaelogical "finds" have the arabs made? They throw away pricless artifacts to "prove" that the Jews were never there. Mazel tov!

  • @bheadh So god created everyone and then chose sides?

  • This is just another example of the revealing science of God. Israel is just where she is supposed to be since 1948. What other "nation" has returned to its homeland after being exiled 2000 years before? There isn't one. What other "scholarly, preistly people" has God claimed to and for mankind? They'll find other objects that will confirm The Word of God. What archaelogical "finds" have the arabs made? They throw away pricless artifacts to "prove" that the Jews were never there.

  • Hooray for science confirming religious "facts" contained in the Bible! If science confirms evolution, well that's different, science can never be trusted.

  • @kaduisaui Talking snakes, talking donkeys, men living inside whales for three days, etc, are hardly "facts." Evolution has been proven for decades.

  • @evelsteev I see you got my sarcasm...

  • @kaduisaui Be we get no god....

  • @evelsteev I don't understand what you mean. Please explain.

  • @kaduisaui exactly. ;)

  • @evelsteev Oh wait a minute.. With science we get evolution and reality but in trade we don't get any Gods. Is that what you meant? If so, I like it.

  • @kaduisaui amen

  • well there you have it, this proves there were giants in the middle east 3000 years a go.

  • @tomitstube Really? Where are their skeletons?

  • @evelsteev ~ in atlantis.

  • @tomitstube and where's that?

  • @evelsteev ~ under the sea where sponge bob lives.

  • I "liked" the video just because of the news caster

  • the man talks nonsense

  • This is politicization archaeological for nationalistic propaganda for the state of isreal / its pretty easy to dig through or bury the other tribes of past civilizations to find a part of a nationalistic re- affirmation even if you discard all other Arabic and Egyptian finds .. in the same soil and dating earlier and past this time....

  • @bluesgottaclue Yeah, it's impressive how when someone else makes a find like that, we just say "hey we learned something about our history". For them it's all about politics and confirming their stupid religion.

  • why does everyone have to fight on these videos about their racial origins...archeology has a lot to prove the information is fascinating....I wouldn't care if I am descendant of chinese some time ago lol I am white however what difference does it make is human pride so big that your less over your anscestors from 3000 years ago..I am sure given that much time we all have every race in our blood!

  • @beepu2 no one is stopping black african jews going back to siberia

  • Judaism is not of Genes but of Faith in the heart.

  • ROFL Paltestinians are arabs...

    geneticlaly they are jews conquered and mixed with arab genes.

  • Archaeology only reinforces what is already known to all -

    Jerusalem was the capital city of Israel

    Jerusalem is the capital city of Israel

    Jerusalem will be for eternity the capital city of Israel!

  • @michalebeb Who the fuck cares? Get over your false "identity" and start realizing the fact we share the world with other people.

  • @michalebeb this only prooves the old testament is a bunch of lies, and the world is older than 6000 years

  • Israel belongs to the Jews and no-one but the Jews. "Palestine" isn't even a real place.

    "Palestine" is like a unicorn: easy to describe but very difficult to find.

  • this is interesting...i put it on my facebook profile.  thanks for all the trouble you've gone to finding these! :)

  • So, how do they get all this information from, "judge, slave" and "king'?

  • The children of Israel pretty much killed off the canaanites & took over way back when. They screwed up bigtime after that by not sticking to the agreement they had with The Lord and got exiled over & over again 'cause God doesn't put up with covenant breakers for too long.

  • If you trace the origin of societies in the area you'll see that many tribes\cultures lived in the area prior to the Israelites. The Bible states this very clearly and says they are descendants of Shem. The same as Abram. The difference is God promised the Land to Abraham and his lineage through Isaac.

    The continuing regathering and re-establishment of Israel as single unified nation is the fulfillment of prophecy. God will accomplish his goals regardless of politicians or radicals. Watch.

  • @JohnD24x7 In Jeremiah it was written that the inheritance was stripped from them and inturn they receive anger from God.

  • @melaygrovecourt of course JEWS stole Palestinian land everyone know it. if youre so giving to everyone back what belonged to them 1000 years ago, why dont you ask Engayland to return back Northern Ireland ? or Why americans return US to natives ? etc

    it doesnt work that way the engaylish to piece of palestinian land and gave it to jews the jews got hungry so they started killing paletisnains for more land.

    it doesnt matter the land was jewish 1000 years ago its 2011 not year 0 you moron

  • @TheDallasDragon no one is stopping the irish or natives to get back their land.

  • this is brainwashing video !!!!!!

  • Even with all the facts that this is Jewish land those wishing to stir up trouble will still deny it.

  • @AbuAvital

    If that is the case then only native Americans should own any of the land in the Americas and every one else there should be thrown out or marginalized as a non citizen. Oh wait they dont have a retarded fairy tale telling them they are the chosen people nor the backing of a super power.

    The racism here is thick and sickening. No race is better or more privileged than any other, asshole. Regardless of where your ancestors lived and what cult they belonged to.

  • @qarohc You proove my point, thank you.

  • @AbuAvital

    Ok, dint realize your point was to show of your idiotic bigotry.

    Congratulations then, on being proud of being a bigot.

  • @qarohc If being considered a bigot is a sign of your ignorance then I am proud that you consider me a bigot.

  • @qarohc

    I don't think he's claiming Jewish superiority over other races, man. He's just saying that this proves the Jews really were in Israel, with Jerusalem as its capital, and King David as its King. This gives credibility to the Biblical "fairy tale" accounts, bolstering the case for the historical accuracy and integrity of the Bible. If there is racism in this, then you're right, its sickening. I don't necessarily see it that way though. No, the Jews are not 'better', but they were there.

  • @Grambo4

    they found a pot with writing on it that was likely to be Phoenician.

    The only thing he has "proven" is that it is possible that people that spoke a Phoenician language lived there at that time or at least traded there. King David and all the rest of that garbage is a long way away.

    If you dont understand why i called him a racist then you have not read my post. Or are lying to defend your idiotic fairy tale. Stick to lying to the sheep that are unwilling to question please.

  • @qarohc

    well, I was just going off of what this video said. The gentleman holding the artifact seems to be saying that there is enough written on there to help corroborate the historical person of King David (to what degree, I don't know) in places where the Bible said he built fortified cities. I had not read all your posts, and was just going on what I could see on the 1st page.

    thnx 4 so quickly moving to slander me as a liar, though. Nice touch.

  • @Grambo

    u quoted part of my post (fairy tale)...

    So instead of manning up you play the victim. Nice touch.

    We dont know what is written on the pot other than a few words. The idea that it corroborates the king david story is pure fabrication. At best it shows the possibility of a population that we may consider as Jewish ancestors. From that possibility he concludes that the OT must be all true, just sad. But as long as it reinforces your beliefs you dont bother to question it, how strange.

  • @qarohc

    Right, again, as I said, I was only going on what this video seemed to be presenting. Obviously this short clip is not exhaustive or definitive on the matter. Of course you're entitled to your opinions. They may be right, too. I'm not trying to play the victim; I just thought your reaction to me was uncalled for. To call someone ignorant, and a liar, based upon one comment on a youtube video seems drastic to me. Maybe not to you, but to me it does. That's all.

  • @MrJapaneseboy1111 theyre still where on earth ? the jews got land stolen from palestinians in 1960.

    the jews lost thier plans of taking over german government thats why hitler wanted to get rid of them.

    my great grand father was jew im normal person and believe me JEWS or Israelis or whatever you call them arent any better than HITLER.

    nazi germnay = jews israel

    if youre black or muslim or annything different then white and christian do not go to live in israel cuz you will regreat it

  • @TheDallasDragon Ahem....jews stole the land from the palestinians? Jews were in the land from the time of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. And you're saying that the land belongs to the palestinians? You better study history.

  • @melaygrovecourt Well, that was thousands of years ago... y'know...Rome ended Jewish rule and dominance in the area and made it into Syria Palaestine, which later underwent many other transitions and changes of hands without the Jews in power.

    Then, in 1948, close to 2,000 years later, the Jews got some special consideration and influence due to their persecution by the NAZIs and were permitted to form a state in the "uninhabited" Palestine area.

    The Zionists then violently expelled the Arabs.

  • very interesting

  • wouldn't he want to avoid touching the damn thing so much?

  • Yeah they were Hebru and you illegal islamic phillistines need to get out of God's holy land. Your sutch a pain in the neck! Just get out and go home LOL. Get your stupid mahadi or what ever his cave dwelling anti yashua heathen dog scum and bring him out to make the peace treaty so the rebuilding of the true temple can begin and the book of Revelations can finnaly unfold! Yes you will be getting it in the end of ends. You who are to be marked for destruction by the beast. Go kiss your rock LOL!

  • @BrophyBass Why would you get so upset like this? God said in one of his prophetic books that he was building up a new and different army? Even Hitler himself as evil as I think he was, was merely a pawn in the story we all are God does what he wishes with each of us. When it is God's perfect timing he will move in the hearts of the palestinians and make them do as he chooses. The battle is not OURS it's the LORDS. Did he not say that he created the evil for the day of evil.

  • @BrophyBass I agree with you, your response clearly show that you are well informed on Bible prophecy, the evil Quran and contemporary signs. G_D'S eternal plan and purpose

    That are moving rapidly forward to the destiny He ordained. "end of the age." forever more, God government .

  • so called jews going to get it in the end. better stop saying your authentic. their are lying people out there claiming to be of the israelites but it is a lie. 1st, there was no letter j in the hebrew alphabet nor the letter j used as words until the 1600's. so there were no people called the jews, and there was no jesus (hey zeus). oh yea the original israelites where chased out of their land centuries ago and were put in africa and other nations then later sold as slaves.....fact.

  • all but a few alpha bets come out of ancient phonecia the jews speak ancient phonecian , there is no hebrew language incidentally the phonecian IE hebrew alpha bet letters are as follow ALEPH and BET in english its now ALPHA-BET phonecian comes from the time of phonecia canna as in CAIN the one who killed his brother and this was before latin as it accured before the tower of bable incident were the languages we split , the chinese korean and a few others are not out of phonecia

  • latin was the 1st language not hebrew or wutever he said "the porto-krekhhklahicjuew;o;cvejc­gkjekuhjxadilw73etyl83rigur3kj­4uryki script"

  • @H0U5T0N3TX Phoenician - about 1000 BC Aramaic - c. 950 BC Hebrew - c. 950 BC: Gezer calendar Phrygian - c. 800 BC Moabite - c. 800 BC Ammonite - c. 800 BC Old North Arabian - c. 800 BC Old South Arabian - c. 800 BC Etruscan - c. 700 BC Umbrian - c. 600 BC North Picene - c. 600 BC Lepontic - c. 600 BC Tartessian - c. 600 BC Lydian - c. 600 BC Carian - c. 600 BC Eteocypriot - c. 600 BC Latin - c. 500 BC
  • @H0U5T0N3TX lol at mexicans with their latin pride nubs

  • @blunmann210 what the hell makes u think im mexican. just because u went to my channel and saw that i had a vid about mexicans doesnt mean i am mexican. latin pride? wtf u do realize that mostly every language derived from the latin language. including english. n i know u cant b talking especially since u commented on a video on how to "karate man" i bet u jacked off to that shit. which u most likely did. since u posted a comment on their saying "ill give it a shawt :)" like a little FAGGOT

  • @blunmann210 lmao nigger english derived from germanic u retard plus i was making fun of his accent little girl nice try tho but ur wrong again =]

  • The Jews are responsible for all the "script" in the world. Hardly. I'm sure that Jews are taught that all non-Jews have the minds of children. The lies are incredibly blatant and huge, it makes them giggle to repeat them. But they think that they will be believed.

  • Folks...he's holding a piece of a clay pot. With this evidence he speaks of entire languages, fortified cities, King David etc. A history of 3,000 yrs ago that is a belief of Jews but never proven to exist beyond fantasy. It's just a piece of a pot. Evidence to that...it's in a big room filled with other junk, no special gloves, no special storage, just false evidence to ancient Middle Eastern Jews.

  • @JohnnyRock2000

    The question I have is; why does a man who does not speak English as his primary language use the word Bible as the name for the scriptures? The Hebrew word for the scriptures is Tanakh.This is a name used in Judaism for the canon of the Hebrew Bible. The Tanakh is also known as the Masoretic Text or the Miqra. The name is an acronym formed from the initial Hebrew letters of the Masoretic Text's three traditional subdivisions: The Torah

  • @db4805 As you know, all this is Zionist propaganda...in this case designed for the english speaking Bible worshiping West. 

  • if the letter J is only 500 year old where are you coming up with this news.. Y was 1st then I then j came to chance the name of YAHUWAH our Father

  • if the letter J is only 500 year old where are you coming up with this news..

  • israel didnt win all wars..the northernkingdom of Israel lost to the Assryrians and the ten tribes became scattered..then Babylon invaded Judah the southern kingdom of Israel and the Jews were in captivity for 70 years... and Israel was again invaded by Rome in 70 AD... but this shows the glory of God the Jews have survived as a culture, religion and language for over 3,000 years

  • The 10th Century BC? But the BIBLE teaches us that the earth is only 4 thousand years old!

    (sarcasm there)

    At what point to the christians STOP making up fake history and just say, "history and science or over there, religion/mythology are over here."

  • Very interesting.. a very important find

  • does anyone on youtube knows how to spell???..

  • @1127mickey It's rare to see people that can spell these days. I suspect "txting" is eroding the language. But I'm not sure it's a bad thing, It's more efficient but loses some of the history of the language. What's everyone else think?

    BTW there's a typo in your message berating spelling. 8^)

  • @1127mickey sorry, buddy, but when you are in a hurry. It happens. Hope, I spell it correctly and pardon my grammar. LOL

  • the story about king of khazar and why he converted to a jewish is written in wikipedia.

  • Israel does not belong to the european jew. It belongs to the children of Yisrael. The Jews have no biblical or historical claims to the land. Lastly , Jesus has absolutely no place in Yisraelite faith , Jewish Faith , and Biblical History. He did not and does not exist except in the hearts and minds of christians. thumbs up or down , I told you the truth.

  • @Bennydyisraelite

    I believe that is ur opinion, everyone have their own opinion; but it doesn't become truth!

  • @ksebasti100 The european Jews , descend from the khazars, they had never set foot in the place they now call home until the united nations decided to take the land and give it to them. That is a historical fact. I am not trying to be hateful , please check it out for yourself. Lastly , there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever of the existence of a man named Jesus who fits the mythology of the greek new testament..another fact..not opinion..please if you dont believe me research for yourself.

  • @Bennydyisraelite The historic fact is the Jews all over the world, in Europe and everywhere else, are descendants of the twelve tribes of Israel that inherited G-d's Holy Land over 3000 years ago. The Khazars (and the rest of civilized society) would have never even had a civilization if it wasn't for the Jews who escaped destruction when The Holy Land was stolen by the empirical designs of the Babylonians, Persians and Romans.

  • @Bennydyisraelite Where do you think the European Jews came from? Jews have always traveled and lived in other places. Jews are the only nation on earth with a rightful claim to the land of Israel.

  • @cooperdavidc The "Jews" is a name that evolved from those europeans who embraced the faith of The children of Yisrael through the tribe of Yahudah(The Tribe of kingship) The are actually Gentiles of a non Hebrew or semetic origin. We could discuss this back and forth , but it seems that you are intelligent and have the ability to research this matter on your own. Please check it out. Jews have no legal, politcal or spiritual rights to the land of Yisrael. Thats a fact.

  • @Bennydyisraelite you are obviously forcing your anti semitic agenda. The word Jew is derived from the Hebrew name Yehudah refering to people decended from that tribe and the souther nation of Judah. The DNA tests have proven that European Jews are in fact descended from those tribes. Your opinion is not fact and is refuted by millennium of documented history. Go troll somewhere else.

  • @Bennydyisraelite if god is not with the jews

    so why they won all wars?

    they saw all the armies of the world go and come but they are still there !

  • @MrJapaneseboy1111 UM. THE KHAZARS ARE 'WINNING WARS'? STRANGE. FIRST OF ALL THEY HAVE GOTTEN KICKED OUT OF EVERY REGION THEY HAVE EVER BEEN IN. SECOND, IF THE MOST HIGH WAS INDEED WITH THEM...WHY ARE THEY STILL FIGHTING? SHOULDN'T THEY HAVE CONQUERED BY NOW? THIRD, THE US GOVERNMENT IS AIDING THEIR FELLOW DEMONS-NOT THE MOST HIGH. THEY HAVE PARTED THE LAND AND HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THAT WAS PROPHESIED THEY WOULD.

  • @THEALMIGHYCHOSEN12

    You are unimaganbel stupid.Read genetics More than 30 genetic studies proved the israelite origin of all Jews.Read Hammer behar nabla Shen Foset Cruciani Semino or at least read wikipedia

    wiki/Jews#Genetic_studies

    Unfortunaly for you neighter modern populational genetics nor archeology is playing to your hands.Genetical scientists proved the Israelite origin of all Jews while archeologists are reveling day by day new findings about the glory of ancient Jewish Israel

  • @MrJapaneseboy1111 SO LET'S NOT CONFUSE TECHNOLOGY AND THE ASSISTANCE OF 'KILLERICA' WITH THE MOST HIGH.

  • @THEALMIGHYCHOSEN12 american help to israel started only in the end of "yom kippor war"

    long after 1948 !

  • @MrJapaneseboy1111 SO WE JUST COMMENT ON CERTAIN PARTS OF COMMENTS NOW. OK. BUT I KNOW WHY. CAUSE ITS THE TRUTH. AND YOU AND YOURS ARE THE LIE FROM YOUR FATHER SATAN. THANKS FOR SHARING!

  • @THEALMIGHYCHOSEN12 i hope for your sake it dosent hurt !

  • @MrJapaneseboy1111 one word: holocaust..

  • @SunWooz the holocaust only cosed most jews to go back to israel !

    your point?

  • @MrJapaneseboy1111 Have you even read the bible? The Jews were very far from winning all wars.

    Prime examples being their loss to Babylon and their following enslavement.

    Then of course they lost to the Romans. Israel was Roman territory during the new testament.

    Get your stories straight.

  • @MrJapaneseboy1111 Not sure why got so many thumbs up.. except that most don't know their history, I suppose.

    Israel was formed in 1948, many nations are MUCH older.

    Looking at the Jewish people themselves, they are an ethnicity. Saying that they have survived today isn't surprising, either. Romans, Greeks, Chinese, Africans, Native Americans, Aborigines, and MANY MANY other ethnicities OLDER than the INVENTED Jews are still around.

    And no god was required to make that happen. Funny, huh?

  • @looncraz

    Search: Merneptah Stele and Mesha Stele. They PROVE beyond any historical doubt that Israel, Jews and the "house of David" were NOT "invented".

  • @Msunbird02 They were a real people, but they WERE invented.. as in their stories, history, and placement are all inventions of their own imaginations.

    Virtually every culture does it to some degree, and they often ended up calling themselves an ethnicity.. but Jews then tried to call themselves a race of people... thus they INVENTED themselves...

    Jews are the result of the mixing of outer-Egyptian tribes into one group. Hence the "tribes of Israel."

    They then invented a God for themselves...

  • @looncraz Not quite. Jacob's son Judah was the 1st Jew. Canaanites were bronze age invaders cursed by Noah. He cursed his son Ham's decendants (Canaanite Arabs) to be servants of his other son Shem's descendants (Shemites=Semites=Jews): Gen 9:18-27. The genealogy is Noah > Ham + Shem > Eber (a Shemite = Semite = Jew) > Abraham > Isaac > Jacob (God renamed him Israel) > Judah (the 1st Jew) > 12 tribes of Israel > King David > Jesus Christ (both Jews). "Palestinians" are the invented ethnicity.

  • @Msunbird02 The bible is a poor source for the truth in regards to this subject as it is written by those perpetuating the fallacy.

    You see, there is no race on the planet that can say who the first of their kind was, as race does not work in such a manner. Claiming to have such a stark beginning is PROOF of a fallacy.

    The truth is that Jews are not a race, but a people with common cause and beliefs who invented their own history. Archeology has proven their conquest claims as outright lies.

  • @Msunbird02 (part 2)

    Furthermore, the claims they make of their god is the same all others before them have made - and then some.

    They claim that their god said: "Every place whereon the soles of your feet shall tread shall be yours." And also a guarantee of protection from attackers so that they may never lose a battle.

    Shortly thereafter the Jews were conquered and removed from the land "god promised them."

    The tribes united after the weakening of Egyptian rule in the area, simple as that.

  • @looncraz

    Why do you presuppose that "the bible is a poor source for the truth in regards to this subject as it is written by those perpetuating the fallacy" while modern archaeology is proving much of its contents to be historically factual? Israel has become a formally established State in 1948 and one of the reasons for that was to protect Israeli Jews from unwarranted persecution regardless of whatever any alleged entity is claimed to have said. It's about politics rather than religion.

  • @Msunbird02 The only thing archeology has proven is that the bible used real places in its stories...that is ALL.

    Archeology has dis-proven the conquest stories outright. The Jews claimed to have conquered cities which were already destroyed hundreds of years prior.

    Their genealogy could even be absolutely PERFECT, but that still shows the story to be a fallacy...they are NOT a race, but a religious faction.

    The establishment of the Israeli state is something you should research thoroughly...

  • @Msunbird02 (part 2)

    The establishment of the Israeli state in Palestine resulted in wide-spread bloodshed as the Israeli's military muscle invaded the territories and forcefully evicted the rightful residents. They had no claim to the land.

    Just because my family once ruled over large swaths of Germany doesn't give me the right to go "reclaim" that land for myself, does it?? Of course not!

    Zionists are evil and manipulative; history shows this.

    (Keep reading to my next post, much to say!)

  • @Msunbird02 (part 3)

    At the time when the Zionist Jews invaded Palestine, they used extreme force to remove the inhabitants from the land. They even fooled many into believing that the land was already empty!

    The raped the villages, decimated the populous, and sparked off a war with the Arab world.

    This is why the Arabs today are so, legitimately, angered by the Jews.

    Most Jews did not know what was happening either and likely would have never permitted such acts to be done in their names!!

  • @looncraz

    I think you're obviously contradicting yourself .... claiming Jews invented themselves and their history etc etc and then accuse "Zionist Jews" of invading Palestine. In truth, Palestine is the invention. There never has been any such place or a "Palestinian" people.

  • @Msunbird02 Hmm.. where to start... Research "Palestinian Exodus." These are the Kingdoms, more or less in order, that controlled modern day Israel: Canaanite City-States Phoenicians Minoans Syrians Egyptians Philistines Merge United Kingdom of Israel --Kingdom of Israel --Kingdom of Judah Assyrian Babylonian Achaemenid Greek (Macedonian - Alexander) ... Seleucid -Judea -Samaritan -Idumaean -Ituarean -Galilean Rome -Syria Palaestina <-- -Palmyrene Palestine Joined Islamic Empire And so on...
  • @looncraz

    Try the truth instead at: w w w . imninalu . net/myths-pals.htm

  • @Msunbird02 You understand that none of that matters, right?

    They are NOT the newest of all peoples on the Earth. ( You know, Mexicans, Canadians, Americans, Brazilians, Cubans...etc... are ALL newer ).

    The only ones who have any claim to that land should be those were there originally - but we don't even know who that is... Sumerians? Canaanites??

    It wasn't the Jews, they created that identity LONG after the area was established ( even says so in the bible... ).

    So why do they get the land?

  • @Msunbird02 (part 2)

    Why did I type Sumerian when I was thinking Phoenician?? LOL!!

    My knowledge of the history of the area is quite thorough. Jews formed their union there before area split ( many times ) ultimately ending up as Palestine. Then, THOUSANDS OF YEARS later, the Israelis are all butt hurt about losing their land ( which they claim to have stolen fro those from before... or.. rather.. were GIVEN IT BY GOD... yeah.. all evidence is against that claim, sorry! ).

    All from memory!

  • @looncraz

    I suggest you re-read that link and comprehend the fact that there never has been any such place as "Palestine". It's called Israel and in reality, it has only ever been the fictitious "Palestinians" who falsely claim ownership to that land. As I recall, NOWHERE is it written that ANY land on the face of this planet has to belong exclusively to anyone. Thus, your memory clearly isn't of much use in this instance. Peace :)

  • @Msunbird02

    Palestine began as the Roman province Syria Palaestina, to which I alluded previously.

    While there was no Palestine state, it does not prevent its logical existence.

    The area was called such for about 2,000 years, the peoples can be collectively referred to as Palestinians.

    What gave the Jews the right to remove the people who called it home for so long? Nothing. They lied and forcefully removed those people.

    They were a minority in the area before Israel was formed in 1948.

  • @Msunbird02 (part 2)

    Now, naturally, land changes hands all the time by violent means.

    If you were to ask me who, today, belongs there, I would say those who are on the land now, today.

    Were the "Palestinians" wronged?? Yes, they were.

    Should the land be returned?? No, it is the spoils of war.

    If you view it as an invasion, it was a brutal one, but not exceptionally so.

    Who is right today? Both sides are right.

    To the victor goes the spoils, but the fight must continue until it is won.

  • @looncraz

    Err...it seems to me that you can't 'wrong' a group of people who've never existed.

  • @Msunbird02 Just because they didn't have a "Palestine" state doesn't mean there weren't people there.

    Those people were mostly Arabs ( about 98% ) which identified themselves as anything from Syrian to Egyptian. There were also Jews, but very few.

    The area was referred to as Palestine for a LONG LONG time. Including in the invasion plans and other agreements between the French & British.

    You are putting much stock into a name, a word. These people were there, that is an undeniable fact...

  • @looncraz

    It doesn't matter whom was there first or whatever they called themselves. "Palestine" was only ever a colloquial label. The only solution that has even a remote chance of succeeding is a Native Title Agreement such as that which operates in Australia (see Mabo v Queensland, High Court of Australia). Even so, the muslims will make sure that fails too.

  • @Msunbird02 And here we find total agreement.

    Though I'm personally more familiar with the American Natives and their reservations, rights, & entitlements.

    I fear, however, that the Arabs would be far too proud to accept such an agreement at his point in time. Peace will come soon only through total conquest or submission.

  • @looncraz

    Your view about imminent peace is overly optimistic. There will never be peace in any land where Islam is allowed to exist.

  • @Msunbird02 Never said anything about imminent peace, only that any hope of having it soon would require conquest or submission.

    I'm generally against all religions as it pertains to non-spiritual matters, Islam, as it is practiced, is the epitome of that distaste, with Catholicism & Judaism tied for a close second.

    The separation of church and state can never go too far, IMHO.

  • @looncraz

    No, you asserted that "peace will come soon" without the prefacing it with "any hope of having" peace. I definitely agree with your views about secularism and Islam. I don't believe there is any place for that dogma on the face of any planet.

  • @Msunbird02 Use the full quote: "...peace will come soon only through..."

    That being a condition on peace :-)

    I think I was running out of characters and changed the wording, though, which does make it more difficult to comprehend in the written word... without the proper emPHASis on the right sylABle...

  • @looncraz

    Pls accept my apology as I misinterpreted your inference. That said, it's doubtful Israel will ever submit and Netanyahu was right to reject Obama's proposal to revert (pardon the pun) to pre-'67 borders, imho.

  • @Msunbird02 No problem, happens all the time, so I'm guessing my wording has something to with it... ;-)

    Israel would never submit and neither will the Arabs (a.k.a. ex-Palestinians).

    Obama's proposal was foolish to say the least, so again we find agreement!

    Interesting how two entirely different lines of thought end at the same conclusion, ain't it??

  • @looncraz

    Yes, I probably had a 'moment' at the thought of peace in the ME and thanks for being so gracious! lol ;)

    Even so, "Palestinians" already have a homeland of Jordan so there's no GENUINE motive for the Arab land grab other than the infamous Islamic tenet for world domination. E.V.I.L.

  • @looncraz

    People might have been there for a long time but that doesn't bestow sovereignty regardless of population demographics. I'd contend that Islamic despotism will be more likely than "Arab pride" being responsible for failure of any peace proven by Arafat's deception at the Oslo Accords.

  • @MrJapaneseboy1111 (part 2)

    The Jews lost MANY wars, they merely LIED and claimed they won. If they hadn't lost any wars, then why hasn't the ancient Israel survived until today?

    Why did they LOSE to the Romans ( who COMPLETELY destroyed Jerusalem, IIRC, in 70a.d. )?

    Why were they captured and taken into Babylon??

    Sure sounds like a people whose god never let them lose a war!!

    Sounds like he kept his promise that "wheresoever you place your foot shall be yours."

    Yup, god kept that promise!

  • @Bennydyisraelite judaism is an opened religion and if a gentile realy want to be a jewish he can convert. it does not matter if his mother or father were jew or not.

    the parents of Rabbi Akiva were gentiles and they converted to jews. Rabbi Akiva is considered to be equal to Moses. King David was a descendant of Ruth and she was a Moabite. also Rabbi Me'ir Ba'al Ha'nes- his root is from Sisra, also Shma'aya and Avtalion they became the rabbis of Hillel Hazaken. there are endless examples

  • great video

  • in berber we use t=in first and t =in last of the words for female words for example tanit tazzit tamimt tuzrit tawnat etc you have to study the grammar of languages first than u talk

  • The land was given but to _Israel_ - the 12 tribes.

    But in 2 Chronicles 7:19-22 God warned them that if they continue to disobey Him they will be uprooted from the land.

    This is exactly what happened. So the only Biblical claim the remaining 1 tribe can make is to admit they lost it.

    Therefore the claim that Israel belongs to the Jews is ill-founded. Or it is a claim that is _not_ based on the Bible.

    Then again people have been quoting the Bible when it suits their needs since the beginning.

  • @LivingDog94 Since you are so well versed in Tanach, I'm sure you aware that just as this prophecy is true so are the prophecies that foretell our imminent return to Zion to establish G-d's kingdom for eternity.

    In fact, Isaiah 1 predicts the exile and eventual return of the Children of Israel to His Holy City in His Holy Land of Israel, Jerusalem. Followed by Isaiah 2 there is no question that the destiny of the Children of Israel is in Zion.

  • This is what it says in Revelation.

    Your understanding is worldly. But in reality the children of Israel are those born of the Spirit of God - not the world - not the nation of Israel.

    The message of 2 Chronicles 7:19-22 is to _worldly_ Israel - aka national Israel.

    But the idea is that those who belong to God will _never_ be (can _never_ be) uprooted from His _spiritual_ Kingdom (Heaven) - b/c they are born of His Spirit.

    So any claim to salvation via national status is religious and false

  • All writings came from Pheonicians, Sumerians, Egyptians and Olmecs who were all BLACK tribes. PROVEN! These people are liars, they are trying to prove the bible is HOLY, when in fact all stories were hijacked from those in Egypts. The patriachs range from Hyksos pharaohs to sorcerers. The word LORD in the bible in many cases refers to egyptian pharaohs who called themselves gods and lords, yet gave respect to the Creator of the Universe.

  • we all are gonna be in the tribulation period read matthew 24:29-44. Yahweh is talking to us through his unchanged word. the new versions of the bible has been contaminated by the roman empire church (christians) Yahshua never mentioned the word christian!! the disciples and apostles were called nazarenes and messianic. after yahshua went to heaven. my advise to all christian churches to change there ways and to obey yahwen's word and keep the sabbath and the feasts of Israel!!

  • 10th century bc? bullshit. if you even think this is possibly true you have no idea what was going on in the 10th century bc.

  • this looks like bullshit. if its so old then why the hell would you be taping it with your exposed finger? this is the biggest piece of bullshit i have ever seen

  • You would appear to have made an interesting point.

  • I'm "The Voice" that's going to call Jesus back 2 Earth. So get READY for the Rapture!