@polycarp256 (correction) that first reply is misleading. When I said Rob Bell never said not to do that I was talking about what the guy in the video did not what Jesus did just fyi
@polycarp256 (cont) Thats Gods job. It is not your place to judge sinners. You dont get to decide whether or not they go to hell. And to be frank its none of your god damned business. Let people see for themselves how great it is. When I used the word "fun" which you guys keep pointing out, it was a metaphor about getting kids to do something unresentfully. I could elaborated and translated each part of the metaphor to my point but i just figured people were smart enough to figure it out.
@polycarp256 Sorry I dont check my youtube inbox very well so Im a little late. Yeah you say its not gospel. He says it is. But your right because you read the bible and rob bell hasnt. I am telling you right now the reason why people run away from religion is because others try to force it on them. Jesus led by example. He pointed out peoples sins and still loved them. Rob Bell never said not to do that. He said dont scare them away by pulling a West Burrow Baptist Church and threaten Damnation
If you want to make fun then you completely failed at it. if you want to give your opinion your so unoriginal. see Rob Bell makes me want to listen more agree or dont agree i listen. now, you are boring and unoriginal and UNSINCERE so last time i check out your videos
I mean, why not just ignore Rob? Why so defensive? and why go so far as to mock [Brother] Rob in this fashion? Brother Todd is really doing a discredit to himself in doing this, at least he is with me. I can't even take him and his program seriously most of the time because quite frankly, Todd behaves very erratically and ridiculous.
When Todd and others go all militant against Rob and others....I don't know what they think they're trying to prove. All this tells me is that Rob and everyone else who gets treated in this most un-Christlike way by Todd and his friends are on to something, all it tells me is that Rob has struck a deep nerve with Todd and his fellow latter-day Pharisees and that what Rob says is at least to some degree, true! That's all this type of response from Todd and his likes proves.
@adambomb312 So what would you say to Jesus when he said "Repent for the kingdom is at hand" and also sent his disciples out with the same message? Its actually how he started his ministry. Todd in another one of his videos makes the point that we have two means to convey the gospel when witnessing. One is grace and the other is law. If they are proud/self-righteous then we expose this, in a loving manner, by showing them the law. If they realize they're broken sinners they get grace/mercy.
In the interview with Martin Bashir, Bell was asked if to accept Christ in this life was relavent to salvation, he replied that what happens after this life is just "spectualtion"....Hmmm...pretty sure the Bible is clear on that on... Either your with the Father, or not (Lake of FIre). Why dont you remove the heretical fog from your square rim glasses and read your Bible.
I think you completely missed the point of Rob Bells video in this response. He didn't say that we don't tell them about hell and salvation, but he said that we don't scream it at them if we want them to believe what we're saying. Why can't people understand that there has to be balance? You actually proved Rob RIGHT by talking to those people with respect and love. He was contrasting yelling at somebody, and doing exactly what you did. I don't know how you didn't see that.
@polycarp256 Oh yeah? What makes you think that? That actually comes from him? Cause he states numerous times and in his book that he does. Why don't you read the book before judging it instead of parroting what angry christians say on a blog ?
Hey. I have news fro you. There's something beyong the ten commandments. It's called the New Testament: the Gospel the Good News, the liberation that Christ granted us in the cross salvation from sin and liberation from the law. We are saved by faith not by deeds.
@franconstanza Ive got news for you...Jesus said the Law will never pass away...that liberation only come from a Holy Spirit inspired repentence of sin. James tells us "faith without deeds is dead", deeds automatically come with true faith and repentence.
but you are interviewing christians in your movie, I guarentee you if you had a homosexual, or an athiest, rationality wouldnt work because they rationally feel you shouldnt push your beliefs, just as you wouldnt appreciate them doing it too you
Thats how I was converted, I had people preaching to me my whole life, on both sides, christians and athiests telling me they were right, I never had anything else, I wanted nothing to do with either, than I was put into a dr. love enviornment, and these people were happy. And I litterally thought, maybe theres something to this christianity thing. that is what he meas by show love, "not let him walk off a cliff"
One can not be a born again christian until he first realizes that he has sinned against God and that when he dies he will go straight to hell. That is why street preachers come out in their own time and preach the FULL GOSPEL, not a heretical half Gospel which only speaks of God's love as do christians within modern churches. These people who only preach God's love really have no idea what God's love truly is.
So you convince them by showing them how much fun it is, by showing them how much more happy you are after taking it. Sure rationality can work and besides rob bell wasnt talking about people like you any way. He was simply offering an alternative to hate and condmnation with love and understanding, eventually making them want to "take the vitamins" too.
@MrRavioliPanties Thats very tolerant and postmodern, but is not biblical. Romans 3:10-18 makes it very clear mankind in its degenerate fallen state will never choose God on its own, "there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God..." Before man can accept Gods love he must understand, through the holy spirit, that b/c of his sin he is doomed and unless he repents unto Christ there is no salvation. That was the message of John the Baptist, Jesus and Paul, not through "fun"
"Alternative to hate and condemnation"?... It takes more love to tell someone that no matter what you do you will be tormented forever and ever just b/c you were born. Thats what the Gospel is, despite your evil nature God decided to save you, given you accept Him. You dont "win' people over. You dont do a thing. You preach the Word of God and the Holy Spirit convicts and pushes people to Christ. Becoming a Christian is not supposed to be "fun", its picking up your cross and dying to yourself.
your over simplifying "Dr. Love." He isnt saying just love them, hes saying I'll be nice and loving, and take the medicine in front of you, but as opposed to forcing it on you show you how and saying hey you should take it so you get better he shows you, he has a higher quality of life taking it. Kind of like how you get a kid to take vitamins. You dont force it on them, they will than resentfully take it. And you obviously cant rationalize with a child on taking things they dont want.
All due respect, you're a typically condescending pseudo-"christian" douchebag. Like I said, ALL due respect, douchey.
faithdefenderjmc 4 days ago
Home run Todd!
disciple5150 1 week ago
This is an excellent rebuke of Rob Bell while showing Love and a sense of urgency for reaching the Lost.
Great job, Todd!
dougmoerhoffman 1 week ago
fairly terrible and boring, I dont agree with anything!
hottiewakechik008 1 month ago
good Work , Wretched!!!
labandus 2 months ago
@polycarp256 (correction) that first reply is misleading. When I said Rob Bell never said not to do that I was talking about what the guy in the video did not what Jesus did just fyi
MrRavioliPanties 2 months ago
@polycarp256 (cont) Thats Gods job. It is not your place to judge sinners. You dont get to decide whether or not they go to hell. And to be frank its none of your god damned business. Let people see for themselves how great it is. When I used the word "fun" which you guys keep pointing out, it was a metaphor about getting kids to do something unresentfully. I could elaborated and translated each part of the metaphor to my point but i just figured people were smart enough to figure it out.
MrRavioliPanties 2 months ago
@polycarp256 Sorry I dont check my youtube inbox very well so Im a little late. Yeah you say its not gospel. He says it is. But your right because you read the bible and rob bell hasnt. I am telling you right now the reason why people run away from religion is because others try to force it on them. Jesus led by example. He pointed out peoples sins and still loved them. Rob Bell never said not to do that. He said dont scare them away by pulling a West Burrow Baptist Church and threaten Damnation
MrRavioliPanties 2 months ago
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Georgephyl 3 months ago
If you want to make fun then you completely failed at it. if you want to give your opinion your so unoriginal. see Rob Bell makes me want to listen more agree or dont agree i listen. now, you are boring and unoriginal and UNSINCERE so last time i check out your videos
Msngquinteros87 3 months ago
lol, you obviously messed the whole point of what Rob Bell was saying.. #fail
dapcook 4 months ago
I mean, why not just ignore Rob? Why so defensive? and why go so far as to mock [Brother] Rob in this fashion? Brother Todd is really doing a discredit to himself in doing this, at least he is with me. I can't even take him and his program seriously most of the time because quite frankly, Todd behaves very erratically and ridiculous.
adambomb312 4 months ago
@adambomb312 Can you tell me what the gospel is?
steveoho 3 months ago
When Todd and others go all militant against Rob and others....I don't know what they think they're trying to prove. All this tells me is that Rob and everyone else who gets treated in this most un-Christlike way by Todd and his friends are on to something, all it tells me is that Rob has struck a deep nerve with Todd and his fellow latter-day Pharisees and that what Rob says is at least to some degree, true! That's all this type of response from Todd and his likes proves.
adambomb312 4 months ago
@adambomb312 So what would you say to Jesus when he said "Repent for the kingdom is at hand" and also sent his disciples out with the same message? Its actually how he started his ministry. Todd in another one of his videos makes the point that we have two means to convey the gospel when witnessing. One is grace and the other is law. If they are proud/self-righteous then we expose this, in a loving manner, by showing them the law. If they realize they're broken sinners they get grace/mercy.
steveoho 3 months ago
In the interview with Martin Bashir, Bell was asked if to accept Christ in this life was relavent to salvation, he replied that what happens after this life is just "spectualtion"....Hmmm...pretty sure the Bible is clear on that on... Either your with the Father, or not (Lake of FIre). Why dont you remove the heretical fog from your square rim glasses and read your Bible.
polycarp256 4 months ago
I think you completely missed the point of Rob Bells video in this response. He didn't say that we don't tell them about hell and salvation, but he said that we don't scream it at them if we want them to believe what we're saying. Why can't people understand that there has to be balance? You actually proved Rob RIGHT by talking to those people with respect and love. He was contrasting yelling at somebody, and doing exactly what you did. I don't know how you didn't see that.
MisaMaggie 4 months ago
@MisaMaggie No. Rob Bell is a universalist, he does not believe Hell.
polycarp256 4 months ago
@polycarp256 Oh yeah? What makes you think that? That actually comes from him? Cause he states numerous times and in his book that he does. Why don't you read the book before judging it instead of parroting what angry christians say on a blog ?
HerGlassBones94 4 months ago
Hey. I have news fro you. There's something beyong the ten commandments. It's called the New Testament: the Gospel the Good News, the liberation that Christ granted us in the cross salvation from sin and liberation from the law. We are saved by faith not by deeds.
franconstanza 6 months ago
@franconstanza Ive got news for you...Jesus said the Law will never pass away...that liberation only come from a Holy Spirit inspired repentence of sin. James tells us "faith without deeds is dead", deeds automatically come with true faith and repentence.
polycarp256 4 months ago
but you are interviewing christians in your movie, I guarentee you if you had a homosexual, or an athiest, rationality wouldnt work because they rationally feel you shouldnt push your beliefs, just as you wouldnt appreciate them doing it too you
MrRavioliPanties 6 months ago
Thats how I was converted, I had people preaching to me my whole life, on both sides, christians and athiests telling me they were right, I never had anything else, I wanted nothing to do with either, than I was put into a dr. love enviornment, and these people were happy. And I litterally thought, maybe theres something to this christianity thing. that is what he meas by show love, "not let him walk off a cliff"
MrRavioliPanties 6 months ago
@MrRavioliPanties
One can not be a born again christian until he first realizes that he has sinned against God and that when he dies he will go straight to hell. That is why street preachers come out in their own time and preach the FULL GOSPEL, not a heretical half Gospel which only speaks of God's love as do christians within modern churches. These people who only preach God's love really have no idea what God's love truly is.
02Davidka 4 months ago
So you convince them by showing them how much fun it is, by showing them how much more happy you are after taking it. Sure rationality can work and besides rob bell wasnt talking about people like you any way. He was simply offering an alternative to hate and condmnation with love and understanding, eventually making them want to "take the vitamins" too.
MrRavioliPanties 6 months ago
@MrRavioliPanties Thats very tolerant and postmodern, but is not biblical. Romans 3:10-18 makes it very clear mankind in its degenerate fallen state will never choose God on its own, "there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God..." Before man can accept Gods love he must understand, through the holy spirit, that b/c of his sin he is doomed and unless he repents unto Christ there is no salvation. That was the message of John the Baptist, Jesus and Paul, not through "fun"
polycarp256 4 months ago
"Alternative to hate and condemnation"?... It takes more love to tell someone that no matter what you do you will be tormented forever and ever just b/c you were born. Thats what the Gospel is, despite your evil nature God decided to save you, given you accept Him. You dont "win' people over. You dont do a thing. You preach the Word of God and the Holy Spirit convicts and pushes people to Christ. Becoming a Christian is not supposed to be "fun", its picking up your cross and dying to yourself.
polycarp256 4 months ago
your over simplifying "Dr. Love." He isnt saying just love them, hes saying I'll be nice and loving, and take the medicine in front of you, but as opposed to forcing it on you show you how and saying hey you should take it so you get better he shows you, he has a higher quality of life taking it. Kind of like how you get a kid to take vitamins. You dont force it on them, they will than resentfully take it. And you obviously cant rationalize with a child on taking things they dont want.
MrRavioliPanties 6 months ago