Skyhawks at RNZAF Air Base Ohakea New Zealand 1998.mpg

[Skippy585]

Did New Zealand ever have the phantom in service?

[airasiax]

@Skippy585 no

[Skippy585]

@airasiax

Well I think the Phantom is still a reliable platform even today. Although it was really built to be a Naval attach bomber (just like the A4) it to serve in the USAF for decades before being replaced by the F-15E.

[ginjaninja1988]

are so poor and continually pour our money into welfare. We need to fix our economy, cut red tape, allow mining, industry, development and divsersification to create jobs in a competitive marketplace. Then we can cut back on the crippling welfare bill as Kiwis take up meaningful jobs....only then will be able to afford to defend ourselves once again. Its a bit more complex than just buying new fighter aircraft. But just my 2 cents..I think the Swedish Saab JAS 39N Gripen would be worth a look.

[ginjaninja1988]

We will end up reactivating the Air Combat Wing at some point in the future; the world is an unstable place and it is getting worse. The time may come when for the sake of our Pacific Neighbours or Australia we find ourselves in a fight that will be of a Naval nature and we will require air support. With environmental issues places like NZ could easily become targets in the future due to our ability to grow food and resources. The reason we have such a diminshed Defense capability is because we

[dmmmac2]

should have kept these.

[kiwiboy1]

What strategic importance would New Zealand pose? Well if you are looking at invading Antartica sure i could see New Zealand as being important but that would be as far as it goes. If New Zealand was to be invaded or taken over, I'm sorry to tell you, but the rest of the world would have turned to shit and there would be no point in resisting anyways!

[EltacoNZ]

@labradorasorous Really? Labour have traditionally spent more on defence. National have never increased the defense budget, apart from when Jenny Shipley knew she wasn't going to win the next election. At least labour sent us places, and updated gear. National have only kept people in Afghanistan because labour sent them there. They don't understand how the military affects the balance of payments, so they try to ignore them. We should have kept strike, but Key would have left them to rot.

[SanAndreasVagos]

Thanks to that Marxist Hippie Criminal traitor battleaxe (comrade helen) NZ is now at the mercy of the Chinese when they begin there asia-pacific conquest in the near future, this ocuntry will be over-run in less than an hour, now we have some arseclown yankee loving buffoon at the helm refusing to restore the air force, BRING BACK JENNY SHIPLEY!! at least we would have hadsome F16s to smash those pricks Who even try get near NZ

[Antifaith29]

@SanAndreasVagos I dont mean to alarm you but NZ would be fairly easy pickings either way. Even if you restored your air force to its former power with some new block 60 f-16's or Rafales it wouldnt matter. You'd be over run by force of numbers. Doesnt matter how good your pilots are ( kinda funny how every country says they have the best, right? Especialy small ones) They just wouldnt have the man power. Your only Hope would be an Australian/u.s intervention.

[examinationboard]

@Antifaith29 New Zealand is a British colony, which means the british army would intervene. New zealand does not need an army and hats off to labour for getting rid of these planes.

[Antifaith29]

@examinationboard Yeah, but who's going to hold them off while the brits come to help out? Nobody. By the time they arrive the country would be taken. The bad guys would hbe dug in and fortified.

With that said, i think you're a little off on who would come to the rescue, the poms dont have quite the resorces you might think they have. It'd be Australia and u.s intervention for the main part, the english might send a token force.

The commonwealth means fk all these days.

[Antifaith29]

@examinationboard But, since you're comfortable being reliant on other people to protect your country then im talking to the wrong person about it. You are a little deluded about the english thing.

[examinationboard]

@Antifaith29 We're not living in the 1800s my friend, there is no risk. New zealand is not a rich country, it's famous for its scenery, not for its oil reserves.

[SanAndreasVagos]

@Antifaith29 on the other hand, our army is also trained in urban guerilla warfare, so even if the enemy did invade, they wouldnt be able to survive

[examinationboard]

@SanAndreasVagos Whatever it is, they would still intervene. This is the 21 century.

[Antifaith29]

@SanAndreasVagos Im sorry to burst your bubble but so is every other army. Where do you guys think you get the training from? It's not even a matter of who's best at what, its numbers. Your army man power and vehicles ect are that low its not even listed on global firepower. Countrys like nepal have more power. You have 9 .7thousand personelle total. 1455 of wich are soldiers An attacking force can bring ten times that number in the first wave, use youre brain for gods sake.

[SanAndreasVagos]

@Antifaith29 BRO! - We is a small country and i agree the NZDF are not exactly a world military superpower but if you look at our role in world conflicts you will see that we have lost more men in combat per capita in combat than america. again yes we are a small armed force but we are more than willing to play our part (especially with cmdr cuckobananas AKA John Key as Prime Minister)

[Skippy585]

@Antifaith29 well not really.

If they had a Navy like the US or simular in fire power wouldn't have to worry about an invasion right. well they don't and will more than never have that luxury. But I don't see NZ being overran by the Chines red army.

[Skippy585]

@SanAndreasVagos

HAHAH we never learn from lessons in the past mate. Just think, we the people of United States seemed to have forgotten that liberal progressives always love selling out there country.

[Rodrigo2838]

I remember that El Salvador Air Force was interested in buying between 12-15 aircraft back in 2001 but unfortunately El Salvador suffered a major earthquake that year and the adquisition was cancelled.

[hictecnic]

This is an awesome vid. Thanks for the upload, mate. I did 3 years in the New Zealand Air Training Corps, so this brings back a lot of great memories. Cheers again for the upload.

[timsbitsca]

yes I remember back in the day, I lived in Feilding and miss the A4s