I have heard Fowler Ploughing engines where used for Lake dredging at stately homes although I have never seen it done? Using the same method one engine either side the lake!
@Kennysvids100 American engines are crude machines compared to the Marvellous "John Fowler" productions. Yes the machine is idling it does the job with no effort. Fowlers could pull loads, plough, and generate electricity for the fair ground, What American Steam engine can compare?
@zonkozonko American engines can do all the same and more, our engines can plow with more bottoms in the ground and with smaller engines, they can also do short and long distant road loads and can definatly out pull any traction engines over seas and can easily provide electricity. As to whic can compare to that standard: Case, Minnieapolis, Advance, Rumely, Gaar-Scott, PortHuron, Wood Brothers, Leader, Best, Reeves, Aultiman Taylor, Avery, Baker, And all other AMERICAN MADE STEAM ENGINES!!
@Kennysvids100 What you have to realise with cable ploughing is that very often the engines British or American would not get across the field without getting bogged down. Working from both ends with winch cables prevents this also the weight of the engines does not damage the ground being cultivated.
@Kennysvids100 "Case" machines are in use in Britain and very good they are too. Bulldozers and Diggers, John Fowler made his name in Steam Railway Locomotives many record holders for steam. Sadly the company did not diversify and produce products for the modern day, but many steam engines road and rail are still runing today through out the World. I think as both being steam buffs and loyal supporters of our own favourite products we should shake hands and remain good friends Cheers,
@Kennysvids100 If you are referring to American traction engines vs British ones in terms of pulling power, then obviously that depends on the engines concerned. I note that American engines are rated in terms of bhp, while British ones are rated by a somewhat arbitrary system known as Nominal Horse Power (NHP) Which is basically a comparison to the work rate of a shire horse. I think this was a rather patronising nod to farmers, to whom bhp didn't really mean a lot circa 1910-20.
@Kennysvids100 It's difficult to calculate how NHP relates to BHP, since NHP isn't very scientific. There is one engine that I have 'converted' however, knowing its boiler pressure & cylinder size. It's the big McClaren road locomotive, Boadicea. She is rated at 10 NHP, & regularly pulls 145 tons uphill unaided at the Great Dorset Steam Fair. She produces 4,335 ft/lbs of torque working compound, & 11,877 ft/lbs working simple. At 150 rpm, this would be 125 bhp & 340 bhp respectively.
P.s. She only needs half regulator working compound to pull the 145 ton low loader & rail locomotive up the hill of the show arena. So working simple (full boiler pressure to the high pressure & low pressure cylinders)means that traction permitting, she could certainly pull 400 tons on the level.
Excellent ....loved it !
fjbutch 1 year ago
I have heard Fowler Ploughing engines where used for Lake dredging at stately homes although I have never seen it done? Using the same method one engine either side the lake!
zonkozonko 1 year ago
this a heck of a lot different plowing than American plowing,at least the american engines do somthing besides idelinding out in the field
Kennysvids100 2 years ago
@Kennysvids100 American engines are crude machines compared to the Marvellous "John Fowler" productions. Yes the machine is idling it does the job with no effort. Fowlers could pull loads, plough, and generate electricity for the fair ground, What American Steam engine can compare?
zonkozonko 1 year ago
@zonkozonko American engines can do all the same and more, our engines can plow with more bottoms in the ground and with smaller engines, they can also do short and long distant road loads and can definatly out pull any traction engines over seas and can easily provide electricity. As to whic can compare to that standard: Case, Minnieapolis, Advance, Rumely, Gaar-Scott, PortHuron, Wood Brothers, Leader, Best, Reeves, Aultiman Taylor, Avery, Baker, And all other AMERICAN MADE STEAM ENGINES!!
Kennysvids100 7 months ago
@Kennysvids100 What you have to realise with cable ploughing is that very often the engines British or American would not get across the field without getting bogged down. Working from both ends with winch cables prevents this also the weight of the engines does not damage the ground being cultivated.
zonkozonko 7 months ago
@zonkozonko Yes i understand that but i was just answering your question, I still would put our family "Case" against this "John Fowler".
Kennysvids100 7 months ago
@Kennysvids100 "Case" machines are in use in Britain and very good they are too. Bulldozers and Diggers, John Fowler made his name in Steam Railway Locomotives many record holders for steam. Sadly the company did not diversify and produce products for the modern day, but many steam engines road and rail are still runing today through out the World. I think as both being steam buffs and loyal supporters of our own favourite products we should shake hands and remain good friends Cheers,
zonkozonko 7 months ago
@zonkozonko You right haha sorry just havin a friendly convo with a fello steam buff you have a good one.
Kennysvids100 7 months ago
@Kennysvids100 If you are referring to American traction engines vs British ones in terms of pulling power, then obviously that depends on the engines concerned. I note that American engines are rated in terms of bhp, while British ones are rated by a somewhat arbitrary system known as Nominal Horse Power (NHP) Which is basically a comparison to the work rate of a shire horse. I think this was a rather patronising nod to farmers, to whom bhp didn't really mean a lot circa 1910-20.
hiyadroogs 6 months ago
@Kennysvids100 It's difficult to calculate how NHP relates to BHP, since NHP isn't very scientific. There is one engine that I have 'converted' however, knowing its boiler pressure & cylinder size. It's the big McClaren road locomotive, Boadicea. She is rated at 10 NHP, & regularly pulls 145 tons uphill unaided at the Great Dorset Steam Fair. She produces 4,335 ft/lbs of torque working compound, & 11,877 ft/lbs working simple. At 150 rpm, this would be 125 bhp & 340 bhp respectively.
hiyadroogs 6 months ago
P.s. She only needs half regulator working compound to pull the 145 ton low loader & rail locomotive up the hill of the show arena. So working simple (full boiler pressure to the high pressure & low pressure cylinders)means that traction permitting, she could certainly pull 400 tons on the level.
hiyadroogs 6 months ago
great but much too short!
Didymossy 2 years ago
One of the uses of the whistle back in the day was to signal that the engine was in need of coal/wood or water.
greeneyedsteamengine 3 years ago
Very interesting...
Videofarming 3 years ago