More umpires cheating? Ramiz Raja 'RUN OUT' Perth 1987.......

[yunnes09]

15 from 40. That is really disgusting

[dj6ful]

its not cheating but its very stupid running

[jpcrabtree1]

Not cheating as you incorrectly put it. Try buying a rule book and read it.

[robelinda2]

@jpcrabtree1 dickhead, notice the QUESTION MARK.......as in ASKING A FUCKING QUESTION....

[Subash0069]

I would have called him back. 15 runs in 40 balls. I know ODI was knew back then but still 15 runs of almost 7 over: I would have never wanted him to go to the pavillion.

[Bhuddababajee]

this is cheating Bucknor's call in 92 final was correct. teams that take wickets like that only shows one thing they are not quality teams as they can not get the opposition out through legal deliveries.

To: stratocaster1986able (read the rules again its not out and you are a moron)

[nk7792]

The only way that could have been not out, was if the fielding team either decided to not appeal, or after the batsman was given out run out, then they could have retracted their appeal. By the rules, the umpires did what they were supposed to.

[Malincanada]

The law (27.7) says "An umpire shall intervene if satisfied that a batsman, not having been given out, has left his wicket under a misapprehension that he is out."

Clearly he thought he was out, but that wasn't the reason he left his wicket. However, The reason he didn't regain his ground WAS because he thought he was out.

I think the law needs a tweak to make it specifically about the actions of the batsman AFTER his misapprehension occurs not about the initial reason he left his ground.

[MegaDevilsoul]

@Malincanada exactly and that is y umpires started calling it a dead ball when this situation occured.. it started happening may be after this incident bcoz i remember during a Pak vs West Indies WC'92 match , ramiz was caught off a no ball and he again had left his crease without knowing that it was a no ball , and the fielding side tried to run him out but the umpire quickly called it a dead ball...im not sure y ramiz cudnt pick this no ball:S the one in a wc game was a shoulder height no ball

[czcoisie]

but why call it umpires cheating i think that year law 43 wasn't inducted yet

[waqasalikhanrajput]

This wasnt cheating, you can get a run on a no ball. Else you could just keep running... You cant be bowled, caught out, lbw. You can still be run out of a no ball

[moodyh]

@waqasalikhanrajput You are wrong here buddy. If you get caught off a no ball, unless you are clearly attempting to score a run you cant be given out. In this instance he is walking back to the dressing room, this is Not Out.

[abdulwaseemgani]

the umpire's job is to cheat, hahah. lol

[saadikins69]

If the batsman was walking back because he did not hear the no ball call and a run out is attempted then he would not be run out it would be a dead ball as was the case in the 92 final where the batsman was again Ramiz caught off a no ball which he did not hear and was walking back. Hick tried to run him out but missed the stumps Bucknor had already called it a dead ball by then. Over here he was not walking back but attempting a run as the pavillion was the other way where he eventually headed.

[laiq350]

@saadikins69 watch carefully @ 0:45 he turned back to the bowlers end, where the pavilion is placed, and even the umpire wasn´t looking he was just signaling no ball. and in the end the bowlers expression shows all, that this is a cheap way to get someone out

[whatsdoing23]

I believe the rule is "the batsman shall not be given out run out unless he is attempting to run". This happened to Dean Jones in 1991 in the West Indies, when he was bowled off a no-ball, didn't hear the call, and was then run out when walking off the field.

It's not clear from the footage here whether Rameez was trying to run, but I highly doubt it. Gatting was right, the batsman should have been called back.

[stratocaster1986able]

NOT CHEATING. CHECK THE FUCKING RULES.

[unevenestfall]

Isn't there a rule saying if the batsman thinks he's out he can't be run out?

[deathoffaces]

y wud u take off for a single after bein caught close in? the ball was rite in the fielders hands! i say thats a fair decision, i dont kno where the hell the batsman was goin..

[parshiwal887]

technically its not cheating... but there something called ''spirit of the game'' which is missing in english books.........

[MICKY1Q2W]

THATS NOT CHETING

[unleashedtrojan]

this is more acting against the spirit of cricket

[jumpnjza2]

Can't be run out off a no ball.

[lestephenois1]

@jumpnjza2 yeah you can

[anshuman0001]

How is that cheating? The ball wasn't dead clearly the umpire was still signalling a noball.

[rincool]

thats not cheating. Ump raised his hand well ahead of that moron got out of his crease. Stupidity at its best from the batsman.

[ludocrat]

I think the law is that if the batsman thinks he's out and starts walking off (for instance if he's been caught) then he can't be run out. The umpire screwed up royally here . The players just don't know some of the more obscure laws - and shouldn't be expected to. That's what the bloody umpires are for!

[blackkkladder]

@ludocrat

Absolutely!

[IanGorton]

Well in that instance the ball wasn't dead so he should've stayed in his ground.

[TheBillABCTV]

The umpire wasn't cheating because in the Laws of the game you can be run out off a No Ball.

[cabinet96vids]

Why are there umpires who don't understand the rules.

[akheR666]

Gatting himself looks disgusted lol...

and poor R.R. xD

[farrukhj]

why is Ramiz always in such situation? Remember in 92 final he did the same thing with Lewis? lolz

[IanGorton]

@farrukhj Yeah but on that occasion Steve Bucknore called dead ball. So couldn't be run out

[FreudSG]

@farrukhj yea i was thinking the same thing... and that too against England..

[yunnes09]

15 from 40 :O

[jatpattat]

@yunnes09 that was standard back then

[negooog]

i know the rules, but serves him right for not watching the umpire

[DreddWolff]

Was well within his rights to run him out. Raja should of been paying more attention. good decision by the umpires/Raja

[thelostpiranha]

@DreddWolff Not really. Well, I don't know what the rules were then, but he can't be run out off a no ball if he was walking back to the pavillion. There has to be an intention of a run. Even Gatting was clearly embarrassed and looks like he regrets not calling him back.

[DreddWolff]

@thelostpiranha Good point. I know the rules are that if it's a no ball and you attempt a run you can be run out, but if you are believed to be dismissed, and 'walk' then you can't be runout. It looked like (from the camera angles etc) that he was attempting a run, but I can't be 100% sure.

[ludocrat]

@thelostpiranha

Absolutely right. But if Gatt knew the law he could have overruled the umpire and recalled him. I think he wasn't sure.

[Come2PaaPaa]

@DreddWolff WITHIN RIGHTS? LOL SO WHEN A PAKSTANI UMPIRE IS WITHIN RIGHTS ABOUT GATTING YOUR WHITE ASS WILL GO ON FIRE SUCKER

[vigilantez78]

One way or another , a pakistani will be involved

[Come2PaaPaa]

@vigilantez78 VEGETABLES ARE NOT MAN ENOUGH

OH I FORGOT GAVASKAR CRYING ABOUT LBW V LILLE