The Turtle Neck

[bjj1987]

Submissions101 is the greatest for me because I am not rich so i cant afford high class gym to train at plus there is no one around he at that.

[Pandemos]

Who singles with their head on the outside, though? Double, yeah. Single, you wanna tuck the nose to the leg to prevent a cross-face. Look at 21 Seconds. Might as well pull back into a cross-face to make distance, then RNC after a break and double hooks, or be in a perfect position for a crucifix? Just looks like a very sloppy shoot position is all.

[TIKOMIX]

Seems like this is for "failed" single legs after the sprawl and the shooter is either tired or inexperienced and doesn't want to give up the leg.

[deadspartan0]

oh, i didn't see that he gave him his leg, i was going to say, you could have not given him your leg and put it over his head and just fell back. we call it the Rodrigo choke at my gym.

[10thplanetjjphx]

I get it usually off the transition from front head and arm control to the back with the over under grip... I just leave the leg out there as bait, and 7 out of 10 times the opponent will grab your leg...then you just trap it and go to work :)

[deadspartan0]

There is another way you could do that, after you sprawled and grabbed him under the arm you can put your front leg over his head and just lean back, you'll have him strangled in less than 5 seconds.

[ishbla]

that looks like when BJ Penn put Jens Pulver in a body triangle trapping his arm then going for the RNC

[10thplanetjjphx]

Listen to what i say at the 58 second mark. If he is defending with the hand..now there's no defense at all.

[cyclissmo]

I suppose so. Even still, no high level grappler I've ever rolled with just grabs one leg and sits there like that.

But I concede that it MAY work, if it fits naturally into your game. That's the beauty of jits. Thanks for sharing.

[Submissions101]

Good Point cyclissmo. Not everything works for all people and I find that many bjj police types will insist that their is one way to do things. There isn't. You make the game YOUR own and that is why it is such a wonderful art.

peace!

[cyclissmo]

I don't understand this technique.

If the attacker already has one arm deep under the opponent's neck, why bother trapping the arm? Go straight for the RNC. I can see by the video that it's right there.

This is why I'm a big fan of Roger Gracie. Solid fundamentals, and why he chops so many people to pieces.

[mmaniac07]

I'm sure I could get the ankle lock on him even from that high, BUT I would be asleep before it made a difference. I have stumbled on a version of this sub setup also and like all the greats - it is simple and effective. Great video guys!!

[10thplanetjjphx]

I hit this all the time... you have to have a good squeeze. No technique is ever 100%. My feet are never crossed below the waist or you are open for an ankle lock. I often hit the inverted triangle or go to Spider web off this position. I hit it twice in training tonight, but then again..I could give you 50 bucks get you laid and you'd still complain.. :)

[Submissions101]

John:

Its the internet! A 2 minute clip an people will make judgments after all. It is plain to see however that you ankles are ABOVE the waist and the 'common no no of crossing your feet" doesn't apply. Funny enough, BJ PENN and Rousimar Palhares both have done this in UFCs.

[g4techtv98]

this is an extreamly inefective technique because it is often hard to to get arm in so you can hold on the back guard.... also he states that you should cross your legs and that is a common misconception because they will triangle your feet messing you up making u tap out

[Submissions101]

John gets this rolling so it can't suck as much as you think. Also, notice that John's feet are crossed HIGH above the waist thus keeping it away from the ankle lock.

Eddie is heard off camera praising John as well. I think that says something too but I'll let John chime in here.

[10thplanetjjphx]

keep your feet waist high not around the groin..

[mmafanatic90]

the intro sound is the T-rex from Jurassic Park. I found that out last night!!!

[10thplanetjjphx]

I'll get more in detail later...check my comment below.

[CMTOM]

But if someone were to shoot in for a single, wouldn't they keep there head on the inside?

[CMTOM]

Sorry, nevermind. I read that comment a bit down.

[gregoman20]

Very nice John cant wait to roll down there soon again

[isy111]

thats good

[sssleeper]

I've been doing the over-under and rolling into a RNC in a similar fashion for a while now. I came across it by fluke from a single leg attempt from the knees. I really like it. Thanx for the video!

[chancee]

No disrespect but who would ever shoot a single at a perpendicular angle like that. I'll try tomorrow morning when my students come to train. Thanks for posting none the less.

[kenpojujitsu3]

They don't. They shoot straight, you cut the corner angle on your sprawl to put them at a 45. Then crossface and move to the back to get that 90.

[10thplanetjjphx]

Once you get the back, oyu can bait the leg by just putting the leg out there. most of the time the guy will grab it...then you lay back and blah, blah, blah. I just showed it from there because it was easier that way. I'll put a more in depth version out soon...Thanks :)

[gjfovf]

Dynamite

[Shogun777]

great sub, something i have never thought about!

[diabolic42090]

Haha damn, barely any way to tap out!

[hattrickhockey17]

sweet sub, I like how that is executed

[Levrof]

It was hard to see, but did he cross his ankles while putting on the rear naked choke? Thought that was something we were never supposed to do because the opponent can place an ankle lock on you. Am I mistaken?

[Submissions101]

No, you are correct but if you notice, John's ankles are up higher on Joe's body precluding the lock, but it is something you have to watch out for.

[cuzz63]

Never say never....watch BJ Penn take peoples backs and he crosses his ankles...who is going to tell BJ Penn how to do BJJ? Next reply is good tho, if you keep your crosses ankles above the guys waist he would have to be some sort of freak to be able to cross his ankles on top of yours.

[orbite11]

could i hear Eddie Bravo in the backround? or just someone who sounds like him?

[Submissions101]

Yep..that was Eddie giving props to John!

[canadiantreebjj]

haha good cause i thought i was going crazy too.

simple and effective, just gotta get that hook in deep. ilove it.