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  • here's the answer, they did not have the same "policy's" that the do today then back then, they could dress or have as much facial hair as the wanted, now everyone who chooses to whatch this, LEAVE NOW! this guy is trying to get u to hate us! he does, for those of you who dont know what an apostate is, it's someone who turns their back on jehovah god,whom he should b grateful towards, because if it werent for jehovah, he wouldnt even b there making this disgusting video

  • @steve50145 Explain to me how I'm trying to get people to hate Jehovah's Witnesses. Show me where I attacked Jehovah's Witnesses on a personal level. And think about this, by your own logic if I had never been a Jehovah's Witness then I could never have become an apostate. Interesting. Apostates come from Jehovah's Witnesses. And also, if it's such a disgusting video, why are you watching it? Deep down, somewhere, you know that Jehovah's Witnesses are a false religion.

  • @AnonDude2 I have been watching all of his videos, and he makes valid points. He does not tell you to leave the org. but if you are not up to the ride you are about to get. You better get out of her my people, as Jehovah warned. They are not without very big problems. If you want details of these problems see ewatchmandotcom channel. He is very correct.

  • @radoliz2 lol ewatchmen is an Apostate too! What makes one Apostate better than another?

  • @AnonDude2 Silly, he is a watchman! Not an Apostate! He educates you by taking you through history of the WTBTS, and biblical scrptures to show how the WTBTS has run away with Jehovahs people under false authority. He has volumes of facts of information that explains exactly why the WTBTS is what it is today, and why we as people are getting chewed up and spit out of an org. that has turned itself over the the lawyers of the land for salvation. Your an apostate! Hahaha Just kidding!

  • @steve50145 Incorrect, an apostate is not someone who turns their back on God.

    An apostate is someone who turns their back on a particular faith.

    ATTENTION ALL Jehovah's Witnesses, please try to actually understand what an apostate actually is, don't just keep throwing that particular word at people just because they don't follow your beliefs.

  • How dare you confuse Jehovah's witnesses???

    Don't you know that JWs are to read their Bible passages from Wt litterature and believe by this that they are reading God's word? Don't you know that you are not to read the Bible without the God given litterature? Don't you know that the Bible is very confusing and this is why only the governing body understands it and is commitioned to dispense the food at the proper time?

  • @TheScrewedGeneration Besides, you are "teaching" the Bible and you have a b..b..b..b..beard!!!! Aaaaarrrrrgh!

  • Of course Jehovah Almighty God has the highest standard ,not like human dust thoughts !

    Isaiah 55:8 “For the thoughts of YOU people are not my thoughts, nor are my ways YOUR ways,” is the utterance of Jehovah. 9 “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so my ways are higher than YOUR ways, and my thoughts than YOUR thoughts.

  • @smagisa Of course God's thoughts are higher than mans thoughts. Which is precisely why Watchtower Co. pronouncements will always fall pitifully short of God's standards. Which is why I agree with Jesus who said to 'quit following man!' So quit following Watchtower Co. led by men, staffed by men, and made of men.

  • Just continue on being full of hate, you seem to revel in it. You know, it wouldn't matter what sort of defence I put up for the witnesses and scriptural truth I put forth. I'm signing off, you're not worth it Matt 7:6

  • @grantknott Note: You are the one who came onto my video to make incorrect and baseless assertions. You are the one who, just now, are calling me a dog and a swine. So please, do explain how it is I who are full of hate. Explain to me how I, the man who has been shunned by my 'loving christian family' am somehow the one full of hate. And who exactly are you, the loving Christian, to tell me that I'm not worth it? That I'm below you? Am I the least among you? Didn't Jesus mention that

  • Who are the "Tax collectors" of this day? The ones so hated by christian leaders today?

  • Are you? I mean doing something useful, by attacking and mocking true christians that are trying to do good. What do you do? besides tearing down true christians I mean. What are your beliefs, what do you stand for?By the way, if you're a student of what the witnesses actually bring out in their publications, you would know that they continually state that they are imperfect humans that make mistakes but try to adhere to bible principles and prey and encourage one another to do so.

  • @grantknott You just threw the preaching card, which I knew you would, it's all ya got. JWs aren't the only ones doing that. The WT is the only religious "charitable" organization that doesn't actually give anything to charity. Hmm.

  • @Danmera What did Jesus say? Go therefore and make a charitable organisation? No, he said in Mat 28:19,20-Go therefore and make disciples of people of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the father and the son and of the holy spirit. Anyway, how do you know that they don't personally give to charity? You don't do you?

  • @grantknott Which they don't do either. They baptize in the name of Jehovah, Jesus and the Watchtower Society.

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  • @grantknott And if you were a student of their literature then you would know they claim the Governing Body is a channel for God's information. But you also undoubtedly know that the Governing Body has made many mistakes. So what is the case? Did they not listen properly? Did God Lie? Or are they simply not his channel? If any is true, then they are not to be trusted in any case! And also, find me a direct quote where Watchtower Co. admits that they are the same as you.

  • @grantknott True Christian? Define that for m? What does a 'true Christian' comprise of? A Christian is a follower of Christ, correct? So it would seem to me that what defines a 'true Christian' depends on whether one follows Christ, or not. Note that the key character in that assessment is Christ, and not Watchtower Co. People who follow Watchtower Cp. are followers of men, not God. So explain how following men translates to following Christ?

  • AnonDude, have you heard of the saying.."if you kicked every dog walking down the street that barked at you, you wouldn't get very far. In this instance I'm sorry but you are one of those dogs referring to your video that is. One thing that is glaringly obvious in your "colorful video" is that you never say anything positive about the witnesses and what they do. All you do is carry on like a clown and tread on your own toes. Please, stop being a complete wanker and do something useful.

  • @grantknott Of course I didn't mention any of the 'good' (and I use that term loosely in their case) that the Witnesses do. Why? Because it's a video designed to help point out their flaws. Let's apply your logic in a different scenario, why don't you ask the Witnesses why they never point out any of their flaws in either the magazines or from the platform? Wouldn't that be a reasonable request if you're looking for a balanced argument? By the way, I am doing something useful.

  • @grantknott What good do they do? Are JWs known for their giving back? Their charity? Honestly, what good do they do? If you say preach, pick another one, JWs aren't the only ones doing that. Honestly, what GOOD does this organization do? How do they give back, how do they apply James 1:27 (my CO used that scripture to prove, instead it disproved). How has the WT remained separate while being part of? (UN) how do they take care of widows and orphans, charity? I would love to hear it.

  • @Danmera What good do they do? where do I start? Firstly by encouraging people to adhere to bible principles, preaching them, door to door or publicly, offering free bible studies using their own time and resources Honest, hard working people with bible trained consciences. If more people took notice of their message and sound bible principles (their publications are designed to attract people to the bible) I'm sure the world would be a much better and safer place. As to James 1:27- read on..

  • @grantknott So in other words, nothing.

  • @Danmera James 1-27- How do they take care of widows and orphans you say? With sympathy, just like everyone else that are down. I'm guessing you mean as a governing body? The governing body's focus is the preaching work. All finances, resources, energies are focused on the preaching work worldwide. You see, the witnesses advocate bible principles and preach them whenever they can and truly live by them. In many ways they are helping many people who are willing to listen and get to the core of wh

  • Q2. I think you answered that question yourself, yes Jesus did come to heal sick people and cure their spiritual sickness as well as healing them physically. That tax collector you referred to that he dined with, oh yes he became his follower didn't he. One of the reasons Jesus came was to declare the good news of the kingdom of God-to everyone. Just like the witnesses do, and they follow biblical wisdom. Yes bad associations do spoil useful habits. Take it to heart and stop mocking it!

  • Anon dude, I listened to the first two questions and I'll answer them. Dress and grooming:

    Do you really think people would respect what the witnesses had to say if they went witnessing in rags? Would you respect them if they came to your door in jeans and t shirt? They honor Jehovah by the way they dress and their conduct and that goes for meetings as well. If you had an appointment with the king or queen would you show respect by wearing jeans and a t shirt? and not even bother to shave?

    Q2-ne

  • @grantknott Ah so you admit that the Witnesses are trying to create salesmen. Because the words of Jesus don't have their own merit. Faith wouldn't move you to dress appropriately, oh no no no we need to create a stencil of 'the perfect Christian' that will SELL you the word. And incidentally you still fail to account for the fact that even in your own literature Jesus is wearing inferior attire to the Scribes and Pharisees. Jesus wore blue jeans and a t-shirt compared to them.

  • @grantknott Also unlike a king or queen God has perspective. God accepts sinners, prostitutes, handicaps, and other degenerates because unlike a King or Queen God can see the most important part, the heart. So who do you think you're fooling with your suit and tie? God? . . . . rethink your position because it is moot.

  • @3:24 AnonDude2 says: "they tell you not to associate with worldly people"

    Ain't that the truth.This doctrine was the main reason I left as all of my family are 'worldly' and I was sick of being the rope in a tug of war.

  • Why do members of the Watchtower Society come to my door when there is no possibility of them accepting me if I decided to join?

    They would reject me outright without hesitation on the street, why would they want me in the Bosom of the Flock (so to speak)?

    I guess I am an Apostate before I am even a Member.

    Works for me.

  • @hammerogod They will come to your door until the cows come home. You almost have to be absolutely flat rude to get them to stop. Specifically ask to be put on the 'Do Not Call List' and that will get them out of there. And also, they don't really want you in the flock. It's not you specifically that they care about, they care about the hours, return visits, and magazines that they report back to the Elders.

  • @AnonDude2 About ten minutes at my house sends them away for good. BUT I want them to come back. I think they put me on the "do not call list" without me asking is that possible? I would be interested to show them my Aramaic NT with YHWH in it and uses Y'shua in place of Jesus. I have a Kingdom Hall down the street from me. I really want to show them this NT to see their reactions.

  • @AnonDude2 Phil 2:11 and that every tongue should confess that Y'shua the Mashiyach is YHWH to the glory of Elohim his Father. aent(dot)org.

  • @AnonDude2 Is it best to get them alone rather than in a group? I know they only go out in groups.

  • GREAT question at 2:20.

  • "If Jesus were a Jehovah's Witness, would he participate in shunning???"

  • @WWZenaDo Interesting question. Jesus knew that Judas would betray Him. did Jesus shun Judas? For that matter, did Jesus shun anyone?

  • @EvidenceMinistries Heh, heh!! If you REALLY want to "sprain yer brain", try these two questions: "Did Jesus know that Judas was going to betray him before Jesus even MET Judas? Then why make him a disciple?" "If 'someone' was NEEDED to betray Jesus, did they choose Judas BEFORE Jesus ever went to earth to be born as a baby? If so, then was it fair to choose Judas AS THE BETRAYER before poor Judas was even born? And if a 'betrayer' was NEEDED to fulfill the 'sacrifice', why CONDEMN him?"

  • I liked this guy and the sarcastic way he speaks.

  • @linharesapiens Was Jesus ever sarcastic?

    As for associating with people, consider Jesus' words at Matt. 18:15-17.

  • @keithcarley Your first point is just silly, asking if Jesus was sarcastic is like asking if Jesus had a car. Sarcasm is part of English humor and culture, the Jews had no such humor. However examine Luke 7:36-49 and you see a tiny bit of sarcasm leaking out in the way Jesus presented his illustration.

  • @keithcarley Now as for your second point, I believe you feel as if some great point had been demonstrated by citing that verse. Indeed Jesus instructs us to treat them as men of the nations, as tax collectors. NOTICE WHO JESUS WAS EATING WITH IN MATTHEW 8:11-13, and also note that he states these ones need aid. On the treatment of tax collectors, didn't Jesus invite them to his flock? Zacchaeus? Matthew? How does it look like Jesus treated these 'tax collectors?'

  • In all seriousness I believe that if Jesus were a baptized Jehovah's Witness he would be disfellowshipped for apostasy.

  • I forgot, I miss the pipe!

  • I think, that this is, or it has to be! The best video you have created so far...I applaud you for helping free up those that can't see their own way clear of this form of religious slavery. Good Show I do wish your auto focus would quit moving it is a distraction.

  • History is repeating itself. WT is just like the Jewish church of Jesus' time. He would say the same things of them, and they would and DO treat Him the same. They put down all of Christianity for their love of Jesus, and everything Christians do to honor Him, WT hates.

  • @CaptainArrrgh yeh, never saw a JW put their hands up in worship or sing a new song to Jehovah.. book work, book work, book work.

  • @CaptainArrrgh This would be a good place to see whether the NWT translated the original writings into modern speech. Where Matthew 9:11 and Mark 2:16 would say the Elders and the Bethelites asked Jesus' followers why he ate with Apostates and Disfellowshipped?

  • Hey , ur wearing a snuggie like me! (> ^o^)

  • Really fantastic video Anondude!

  • 10 hours a month in service. ha! that reminded me of a time when an elder had a meeting with the mic handlers, one of which was myself. He stated that if we didn't have at least 10 hours of service in our next field service report, that our priviledge would be removed. I remember thinking to myself, "Fine, i didn't ask for this 'priviledge' in the first place."

  • i wonder if one person ever understood the lyric to the closing song

  • @wp4866 Well, if you mean understanding the lyrics as intended by the writers, it was written as a metaphor for the sadness the entire country was feeling in the wake of the JFK assassination.

  • @wp4866 Wasn't there a sequel song by LEN?

  • Beautifully explained. Yes The WT organization is Very none Jesus. Far far from him.

  • Jesus is portrayed as having been not a jew but a waldensian protestant.

    What makes DFing wrong is not that it includes shunning but the process, how they do it.

    "one person Chirst v. many leaders" Remember that the chiistian church is Christ. as in 'Saul y r u persecuting me?' Saul never met Jesus, he persecuted the church (the christians), ergo Christ=the church (a unity of many). Sio this particualr point of ur's doesn't stand.

  • Dude2, love your videos. Thanks for not smoking your pipe in this one. You made some excellent points in this one. I hope there are a bunch of JWs secretly watching these. They could learn something from your videos.

    Question: is there a reason you've blocked watching your videos from iphones? I first found your videos by searching something on my iphone. I'd appreciate it if you'd allow playback from iphones again. (but I'll understand if you have some reason for blocking them.) Thanks.

  • @Kretyen7 I didn't know I did have iphones blocked. I didn't even know it was an option! I'll look into it and see if we can get that taken care of. :)

  • @AnonDude2 if you didn't do it, maybe there's something blocking your videos on my end. Can't wait to hear what you have to say in your next one.

  • Yup, Jesus would def end up in the back room, and if he failed to have his thinking "re-adjusted" the elders would have no choice, but to DF that unrepentant apostate.

    And as everyone shunned Jesus, they would remind each other...the WT doesn't order us to shun, it was Jesus choice not to follow WT counsel, if we just shun him long enough, he will come to his senses and see it our way.

    Scary thought actually, Jesus doing things WT way. *shiver*

  • this video is very very nice!

  • AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA NO!

  • Its interesting to note that the sinners which Jesus was socializing with were part of Gods "organization" at the time as all Jews were. Many should have been stoned by Law, equal to DFing in the WT, yet Jesus reached out to these! It just shows that the WT understands NOTHING of Jesus' words about God wanting mercy and not sacrifice.

  • great video man! Your right Jesus wouldnt make it as a JW! He"d soon be DF"d as an apostate!

  • What happened to your spanking athiests pee pee vid? Saw it uploaded and it disappeared.

  • @Templehatchet A what? lol

  • @SpecialPioneerSmerf No worries. I found it and shut it off after AnonDude2 stated that atheism is a faith. I have no time to waste with such bullcrap.

  • @Templehatchet I'm with SpecialPioneerSmerf on this one, I have no idea what you're talking about. The only video I've ever made on that is still up as far as I know. Not that it matters anyway since it has nothing to do with this video. Context context context xD

  • @AnonDude2 It showed up on my list and disapeared. Humm. I will track it down.

  • Former Louisiana governor singing? Simple answer, Jesus would be disfellowshipped. In a way haven't they disfellowshipped him every time they hold the memorial and not partake? Been thinking about Maslov a lot this week.

  • @slanelcla "Jesus would be disfellowshipped"

    this^^

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