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  • Yea, she's pretty, even prettier than Barack maybe she could trade places with Biden?

  • Lou Dobbs should just retire.

    Wow is this guy out of touch.

  • Where have I been..I try to keep up, on most everything..I think..Today I turned on to see the most stunningly beautiful woman that I have seen in many a day. Karen Finney ! WOW WOW, she is beautiful and so intellegent...I never knew she existed..I like to have a picture suitable for framing..I hope her looks dont stop her , cause being so good looking can hinder a woman, I 'd like to see her run for political office< and I'd vote for her. Jon in Owensboro,Ky

  • Lou wants some of that sweet brown sugar from Karen.

  • ReneeNme is as gay as Justin Bieber

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  • Lou is a D%$K

  • Yawn....Lou who??

  • Every one should fear Markisum and socilisam,, and the sneaky Fabian take over of our goverment.

  • dobs is a cock sucking fuck-face

  • how & why does Lou have a job?

  • Don't talk to people like Lou Dobbs. You can't reason a man out of a position that he did not reach through reason.

  • How dare Dobbs, use freedom of speech!

    He should be taken out to a camp with Constitution Supporters like himself and be ground up to feed the Homeless Spade & Neutered dogs and cats. Then us Progressives should collect up all the Christians force them to do the civil work for our great Socialist Americanism Union. then the Jews and that grumpy old man that won't recycle ( he yelled at me once for walking on his lawn). All of them ALL Ha HA HA We'll teach them Freedom of our Speech.

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  • @aaron19840904 keep hearing this, but can ANYONE, point to ONE piece of legislation that further restricts the rights, passed during Obama's tenure.

  • karen finney is a DIME!!!! My goodness she is black, beautiful, sexy and smart.....the perfect woman!!!!

  • My God this guy its a stiff

  • Errol Lewis=total fail

    He should have said something to the unraveling drunk racist uncle dba as Lou Dobbs.

    So much for the "strong black brother" LO

  • I usually defend Dobbs, but I think Dobbs just lost his cool. However, both Finney and Dobbs were guilty of the crimes they were accusing each other of. I consider Dobbs to be the most open of all the opinion news shows, but this is one example where I think that Dobbs and everyone got a bit out of control.

  • "tyranny is when you organize for the purpose of being disruptive."

    holy shit we're doomed if these people are allowed to mold this country as they see fit.

  • Lou Dobbs used typical right wing "interview" tactics here. If the right winger doesn't have anything to stand on, interrupt, and change the topic to suit their agenda.

    This guy belongs on Fox-where all the other anti democratic slimebags are.

  • Un American? Tyranny is Fascism Howard Dean is a DoucheBag Pelosi is the queen of Evil Mongering Concentration camps? Really? I'm loading my gun right now - Any takers? We're talking about fascism I have the right to take my gun anywhere. You have the right to be an assbag. Leave me alone & I will leave you alone. Take my property & rights away & I will take your property & rights away as well.
  • I wish Lou would let people talk. Its difficult trying to analyze what others are saying with him interrupting with some cute comment after every sentence..

  • Lou dobbs is a classic rhetorician, and the goal of a rhetorician is to flap their jaw and dominate the conversation with their own ideas, not to advertise the ideas of others. Rhetoric is about the systematic persuading and discrediting of your opponent rather than conversation. Karen was being a lawyerly douche as well.

  • She says the Tea Party protesters are causing "violence and hate speech" at the town hall meetings. Examples? Nope.

    Shultz is dense. If we allow Marxism & Socialism to run unchecked, this will NOT be the USA anymore.

    RE Death Panels were in the healthcare bill, as cited (by page & paragraph) by Palin, after which hey were removed. Concentration camps are different.

    These 2 tripped over themselves trying to back up their claims. KUDOS to Dobbs for his "hissy fit" of asking for SPECIFICS.

  • @NoGuff Update: Black members of congress were called "niggers" and openly gay members were called "faggots". That is hate speech.

  • "Black members of congress were called "niggers" and openly gay members were called "faggots"."

    --Yeah. Funny how no one (protesters, supporters, politicians, bodyguards, reporters, Capitol Police, Secret Service) can provide any evidence for such accusations.

    Cameras & reporters everywhere and not a single instance was caught on tape.

    And please tell me, you're a tough guy, right? When was the last time words hurt you? Or are you a whiny cry-baby?

  • @NoGuff The capitol police did witness the "n" word chant. That's their word, but no tape; but there is a tape where one of the tea baggers spat on one of the black caucus members. And this isnt about me, it's about the members of congress who were hurt by the words. Racial slurs+spitting on members of congress= Hate.

  • "The capitol police did witness the "n" word chant"

    --Please provide a link, I'd be happy to read it.

    "one of the tea baggers spat on one of the black caucus members"

    --I've seen it. No one concludes the person spat on him, the person was obviously yelling. You've never seen anyone unintentionally let loose some saliva when they speak? And unrelated to that, why did they choose to march through that crowd in the first place? Couldn't possibly be to taunt them & ilicit a reaction, huh?

  • @NoGuff

    The crowd was outside the surrounding the door. They had to walk through the crowd to get into the building.

  • "They had to walk through the crowd to get into the building"

    --To use a route they've never taken before.

  • When someone asks a question and interrupts the answer, you know that they're completely full of shit. And Lou is a giant, steaming, pile of it. Great video.

  • Adios, douche bag!

    It's a good thing that CNN finally found a good proctologist and took this piece of shit out of their asses.

  • Dobbs has it right. Keep on doing what you're doing Lou! The anti-constitution crowd will cry all they want. Stand up for liberty!

  • Absolutely right. The left is all for freedom of speech ONLY when it fits their agenda. Otherwise it's labeled "hate speech" and silenced. This is the perfect example.

  • Lou go back to lap dancing in the penal system or the YMCA their are openings all over the place. You are a ultra conservative racist . Together with Rush Limbauch you can stand on the corner shaking your booty for nickels and dimes. Take those false teeth out grow a Van Dyke beard get down on your knees and do your thang !!!

  • you know she called him out on a comment he made about someone, but he is i mean what she is saying in the beginning is that their should be restrictions on speech which goes against the American constitution. I think That Lou is a bit loud and controling in this but he is right in what he's saying. But this was so funny to watch ts way better han our Canadian news channels thier so boring

  • He doesn't hate immigrants? he hates illegal immigrants breaking the law and our federal government breaking the law as well

    Are you blind?

  • I Only called him a blood-sucking leftist.

    And, BTW.. guess what, I agree with Ed as well.

  • I love Lou Dobbs, he actually does real research and gives people NEWS instead of appeals to authority, buzzword slogans, Straw Man tactics.

    Lou has my full support.

    Piss on Republican and Democrat ideologues and party faithful.

  • Just calling her a bitch really helps a lot. It helps me realize you have no rhetoric, just hate. All that hate and rage will give you high blood pressure, a weakened immune system, cause weight problems, stress your already weak neurons and will kill you. I don´t want you to die, I´d much prefer you grew up.

  • LOL @ Dobbs gettin owned on his own show.

  • No, Dobbs stood up for the Constitution against three suck asses. That is why Dobbs is leaving because CNN keeps hiring those that go along with phony news casting. Have you ever wondered why there are no real questions debated with respect to the wars, and how the Fed has engineered this economic melt down? Well Dobbs sees why there are not and wants nothing to do with the subtle deceit of the American people. The three stooges on his show are clueless. Dobbs is floored with their stupidity.

  • Hey, the right is very good at throwing around 4 letter words. Short on discussion, heavy on profanity. It's a pre-adolescent thing I believe. The left are a bunch of Hitler followers? He he, and the Right are a bunch of goody goodies. Unfortunately what all here are missing is we are here together and supposed to work things out together, not run around accusing all that appose your ideals as a Bitch or dumb ass. YOUR ALL AMERICANS YOU BUNCH OF DUMBASS BITCHES.:)

  • you're all bat shit crazy! the racist, immature, hate filled comments here speak volumes. what are you afraid of? it is unbelievable that a woman having a conversation on a news show - staying calm and making her point rationally - is being called a bitch repeatedly. those of you speaking that way - whether you know it or not - are opposed to conversation, and you are in the way of democratic progress. wake up! think for yourselves!

  • Lou has some class, I would have called her a BITCH!

  • Karen is what this county is headed to not white not black but a mixed up gray confused polarized hate filled commie state. Multiracial my ass.

  • Since when it is ok for a USA civilian citizen to possess a gun inside a building in which the President of the USA is in?

  • @j4unumber1 He didn't bring it in

  • @j4unumber1 a citizen should be alowed to pack any where,anytime., Besides leagly he is not the pres.

  • @darrellmellissa i fucked mellissa chump..what a nasty whore!

  • @j4unumber1 It should be allowed, The right to carry does not say where.or when

  • Typical tyranistspeak from Obama's DNC.

  • This woman is a blood sucking leftist.

  • She is a typical lying blood sucking leftist bitch......

  • If Lou Dobbs weren't such a bully I would have felt sorry for him in this video.

    He got owned.

  • I absolutely cannot STAND to hear the kind of liberal propaganda BS coming from the mouth of this DNC bitch... she would have made a great first Lt for Adolph Hitler and seems to have studied her Goebbels well.. Repeat a lie often enough and people will believe it

  • The DNC beatch and MSNBC are covering up that the man carrying the gun that they refer to was BLACK. So what are they saying - he's a racist? Bwahahahahah

  • The point is when you don't have an agenda and when you are not affiliated with either side it's easy to be attacked. This was a debate on health care reform and look at what the agenda pushing panel turned it into.

  • people are fed up...when people lose everything they lose it as Celente says. ..these town hall meetings are being distorted because serfs are not allowed to yell at the barons from capital hill...and Finney is stroking one of the baron's scepter

  • Watch Youtube Video: The Health Care Bill: What they DON'T want you to know!

  • Carrying a gun is expressing yourself? Who knew .

  • Come on Lou stop hiding your head in the sand...i

  • this woman owned Lou and he knew he was caught by her but had to save face and do and say what he did!

  • Who is paying this Finney lady? She is a whacko!! Talk about going crazy in the town hall meetings, heck she just did the same in a four person discussion on heath care! Which, by the way, I didn't hear anything about!! Don't you just love these folks? They ALL have an agenda that involves nothing but themselves!!

  • It was quite obvious that Lou IS the ideologue. also, notice the way in which he asked Karen a question, she answers, he either explodes or she gets in 2 words and he cuts her off. Rude, arrogant, pig.

  • I love the Liberal talk, "It's all over the place." But he cannot name a single name or tell who said it!

  • Lou Dobbs is one of the last honest people in big media, he is not right or left, he's right down the middle like most of America.

    It's shameful you upload one of Lou's worst performances.

  • Lou Dobbs is an asshole

  • You're an asshole wonkguy

  • ed schultz another stupid msnbc liberal

  • I never expected to see such a great man on CNN. Go Dobbs! I hope he knows how much of America agrees with him.

  • go! lou dobbs!

  • Lou Dobbs is da man.

  • Lou Dobbs..get the hell off the air please..this is disgusting..what a fucking hack.

  • Dobbs, you idiot, if you actually think the Secret Service would have let a muslim guy with a gun into a Bush rally, then you are ignorant.

  • Way to go Lou. You're about the only good thing about CNN

  • Dobbs needs to be taken out.

  • No Keep Lou Dobbs, he was telling the truth about Obama's birth certificate.

    He said that Obama's for New World Order.

  • is that a threat ?? I will be reporting you to the police.

  • Dobbs is the man

  • Im a libertarian so both sides can fuck off. But Dobbs has a point.....when liberals voice their opinion it's considered a great social success in free speech, but when conservatives do it....theyre facists

  • well they FIRRRE this old bat alrdy CNN .

  • Mr.Dobbs is great kick her ass!!!

  • dobs is the only thing left to redeem CNN

  • Fire Dobbs now!

  • No Keep Lou Dobbs, he was telling the truth about Obama's birth certificate.

  • If you've listened to Lou Dobbs & don't think he's a racist, you haven't really been listening.

  • You've been getting your propaganda from left-wing sites. Lou's wife is Mexican, but she is here legally. He is against: illegal immigration.

    But whatever right? Who cares about truth when you can suck the balls of your left-wing party? Oooooobammmmmmaaaaaa

  • Lou Dobbs is RIGHT.

    They don't want it to be about healthcare, but rather about a guy who was following his constitutional right to carry a gun, evil racists, etc.

  • the fuzzy, soft focus they film Dobbs with matches his brain.

  • my 2cents.. there is no left or rght if there ever was, there is only right and wrong and forced socialism is wrong..

  • if you notice. On his radio show Lou gets away with much more inflammatory language than when he's on CNN. That's what he really objected to. THe fact that someone brought up his own dirty laundry on the wrong program.

  • Lou was exactly right. They want to restrict the amendments when they are out of favor. And they know this healthcare bill is a shit sandwich.

  • When is CNN going to fire this guy. He is inciting hatred and violence. He is responsible for his words and, yes, the effects of those words when they are clearly discernable in advance.

  • Dobbs is completely mad. Absolutely insane. He needs to have a cocktail with Glenn Beck and work out a contract with Fox. CNN should be embarrassed. Either that or put out to pasture. I thought Lou Dobbs was a joke back in 2003. Listen to him interrupt everybody. He's just a toasted old fatty in a suit. Nothing to offer. No solutions, nothing.

    BTW, Karen Finney is rather fine looking.

  • Lou Dobbs is lying. He wants to be able to stoke flames of anger, hate, & violence without being held accountable. Violence & irrational confrontation are on the rise. A man who made threats against the white house days ago was in a stand off with police. When you see the disruptions at Town Halls, Lou is brushing it off with "That's 1st amendment". It's not. It's inciting. When someone disagreed with Bush policy & spoke up about it, that was "Unamerican", "wrong", & "ruining the country"

  • Everyone knows the only free speech allowed is the one that comes from the left. Then lie when they use that freedom

  • wow, that was a train wreck if I ever saw one!

  • Dobbs has two illegal aliens mowing his lawn. He said it's ok but just don't let any others in. Lou learned to love him and now he says "they're like family" . " I even let them use my bathroom,sometimes " .

  • You can see the liberal parrot-factory has assigned some tools to this particular thread. There is a big push in the politburo to denounce, discredit, and instigate the firing of Lou Dobbs. Pay no attention to the leftist echo chamber. Lou has balls of brass and speaks his mind as her sees fit. Cheers, Lou!

  • And how come gun rights are holy to the people disrupting town halls...

    ...but free speech is not?

    And how isn't it? Because they yell over people when they are answering. They boo things they disagree with to the point that those disagreeing are drowned out. They discourage dialogue. They intimidate their opposition.

    So they pick and choose what should apply in the constitution.

    Ironically, the town hall mobs HATE and are RAPING FREE SPEECH.

  • Of course evil mongers in wrong. However, do people want to kill Obama? I would say yes. There are people that want to kill Obama and for the exact reasons that Ed pointed out. That is fact.

    And Dobbs argument of sitting around waiting for violence, maybe that's what he wants. But some people don't want violence.

    And as for the real crux of this argument - the town hall protesters are DISRUPTING town halls. That means they are violating the first amendment. Simple.

  • Dobbs is dumb as s**t -- you can't help but be dumber after listening to him.

  • America needs to escape from the north korea inspired regime propaganded by the republicans for decades,wealth for the party members /crumbs for the indroctinated fools.

  • I agree with Dobbs when he says Dems like Howard Dean are blood suckers. They would have government take over more personal decision making ability and control of our own money. All the Left can do is call names and talk of the incivility of those who disagree with them.

  • It is understandable that liberals are upset. They lost 1/2 of their talking points playbook - 1. Rush was addicted to painkillers; 2. Polls show Obama's policies are popular. They have substituted the latter with demonizing fellow Americans. Ya cant bring up Rush in EVERY sentence. Seems like a winning strategy (giggles.)

  • The libs are losing this debate and are now throwing tantrums. BooHoo.

  • Vigorous debate for libs is hurling things at Ann Coulter, jumping on the stage while a Minuteman is giving a speech or throwing a brick through the window of a venue where a Congressman is giving a speech on Shamnesty.

    In the Orwellian Liberaland, hate speech = speech they hate, and should be silenced.

  • Leftists to Conservatives: Free speech for me, but not for thee.

  • Lou Dobbs is regressing in his old age. I don't remember him being this nutty, but now he's acting like an angry 2-year old.

    Old Lou, it is time to retire - you're looking crazier each day.

  • These leftist are nuts,

    I have a license to carry concealed, it is legal for me to carry at town hall, so why should I leave my gun in the car? So that some liberal leftist nut won't mess his or her pants? let them dung themselves or get some courage.

  • democrats hate you

    they freaks

    resign obama resign you leftist illegal alien

  • This is the thug tactics of the left. The last thing they can allow is Free Speech or Assembly.

  • Bravo, Lou! I've never heard a more whiny group of cowards. They only want free speech for two groups: 1. Leftists and libs.; 2. quiet, obedient, subservient conservatives.

  • Dobbs is an idiot.

    You can tell he is a part of the racist rep party. It runs deep.

  • your the idiot, why bring race into this when he is fighting for the freedom of speech? You moron. I hope you dont think i am racist for calling you a moron? because moron means moron not the N word, and no i am not racist you moron.

  • I said he is a part of the racist rep party. I didnt say he's racist for fighting for freedom of speech.

    That freedom of speech goes out the window when your speech is used to try and get violence started. That called pre meditated.

    And the childish name calling? Not very becoming at all. LOL

  • She is rude because shie is a lying bitch!

  • Lou Dobbs is very sorry man, or imitation of a man. He is so lost now that he must face both a black president and illegal imigration! Crawl in a hole and save us your pathetic insight Dobbs. What lies at the bottom of all this rage is pure and simple: RACISM

    The whitey's don't want a black man to be successful. IF we get a public option it will force insurance companies to compete and will keep the dems in power for a very long time. This is what scares the righties!

  • Actually if we get a 'public option' it will distort competition and drive companies out of business. Which is exactly what Obama wants unless all his speeches about universal healthcare from 2005 thru 2007 were all a lie. And, it will severly damage our economy, our access to health care or both.

    Oh wait...I forgot...I'm racist! Forget what I just said. I have no idea what it's about. I just don't want it because a black man is President.

    The racism schtick is so tired.

  • If i call you an idiot is that racism? certainly the people in power would want you to think that, and no i am not racist, idiot means idiot, and you are an idiot. You are buying into propaganda.

  • It is not about health care. It is about our United States Constitution. That is all that matters to us now. We Americans will stand strong and we are not backing up.

  • The socialists and communists must be stopped. The Democratic party has been taken over by left wing nuts just like the Republican party was taken over by right wing wackos. And, the American people and the US Constitution are left in the middle, stuck.

  • "Evil", "Un-American". Just more hot words used to appeal to the emotional part of the person. These idiots are a bunch of brain dead hacks.

  • however, there is a pro side to obama's nationalization: illegals will be covered!

  • Karen:

    "You called him a blood-sucking liberal"

    Lou:

    "No i didn't! I called him a blood-sucking leftist"

    lol Lou that was just as horrible XD

  • Dobbs should go work for FOX. Shame on CNN.

  • I wonder how Lou Dobbs would react if Karen Finney pulled out a gun during this "debate".

  • Look up the following phrase on Youtube: Pelosi Tells Anti War Protesters Im a Fan of Disruptors.

    Hypocrisy in action as is demonstrated by the people representing the "left" here. They have their radicals: Ayers, Wright, plus many more. HYPOCRITES. Dems and Libs are no better than anybody. They can lie, cheat and steal as well.

  • Simple fact is that these people can't handle the truth...

  • typical tactics of the left. cant win on the substance so they have to demonize their opponents. not gonna work this time though. 2010 cant get here soon enough .

  • Lou Dobbs is off his fuckin meds ROFL!

  • Sorry, Lou, you neocon propagandists are drumming up hate and violence. There have been a rash of killings that have ties to hate speech from you, savage, limbaugh, beck and hannity. Your lies, name calling, and idiocy contribute to violence.

  • I call BS name one first of all. Second, please tell us how these investigations have linked right wing media hate speech to the "rash of killings" your talking about. Im going to tell you now they dont exist your lying.

  • Lou Dobb is rushing toward irrelevancy! OHYEAH! Let it happen!

  • White House: People are actually finding out what's in the healthcare bill. Quickly, change the subject!!.....................­..............LOL

    Obama for one term president.

  • Dobbs calling others ideological...hahaha, PROJECTION!

  • Good boy, Lou.

  • FUCK LOU DOBBS.

  • Dobbs is representative of how I feel everyday-surrounded by idiots.

  • CNN needs to fire Dobbs already.

  • Freedom of speech has more to do with the printed word than being allowed the freedom to screech at a town hall meeting.

    And I hope people are aware of the tactic being used by Lou Dobbs of asking a question and then interrupting the answer with another question or accusation, changing the subject of the original question. These so called "news" personalities, do this all the time. Depending on your side of things, the viewer comes away with a sense of winning.

  • wow, it is so hard for him to see past his fear that he can't see that carrying a gun to a town hall meeting and calling Dean names is inappropriate. Karen Finney and the other guest there told Dobbs the truth, he just couldn't handle it...

  • Lou Dobbs - One more reason not to watch CNN or buy any products that they advertise.

  • Dobbs is such a pompous - has been. Was he ever anybody to begin with? Other than in his own mind?

  • fascinating

  • and lou calls himself an independent, we just witnessed a glipse into the shear stupidity of lou dobbs.

  • I love him, and Im no racist and Im not a "birther", you idiots always try to class people as something to be the enemy, "global warming deniers"... uhuh....

    Well Obama is trying to supress freedoms just like Idiot Bush did, they arean't helping us you Fool, don't you see... they are taking America's freedoms away, first Bush and now Obama... I want a independent they never screwed me over yet.

  • ok, I saw Obama supporter beat up a guy that was selling flags. now, do I think every person that is supported of reform is like that? NO! so, why should they judge 1/2 of America that disagrees with this plan in this negative way?

  • This woman is whacked "They are not attacking people who are upset (about healthcare), WTF...........and that black guy got a chip on his shoulder and could not back up what his own statements.

    Lou Dobbs was great on conrolling these losers and even defended the americans constitutional freedoms.....Anyone who does not like Lou for that is simply and outrightly UNamerican!

  • Hello! What about everything people called Bush! these people can certainly dish it but not take it!

  • It is obvious that Dobbs is Finney's DICKLESS and BALLESS BITCH and PUSSY! Finney is wearing the pants in this argument while Dobbs wears the skirt. Dobbs is also Sarah Palin's DICKLESS and BALLESS BITCH and PUSSY! Palin is a SUPERIOR and GREATER being than this phony balony could ever be.

  • Also, when you have peopel Bringing Loaded Guns to Town Hall meetings..It can Go bad.!

    What if someone gets shot??

  • Everyone outta brings guns. And I am an ex-police officer and an ex-soldier.

  • i didnt see anything wrong with what Ed Schultz has said.

    When You have people Like hannity, Limbaugh and beck who Day after Day Showing Pics of naziz and Spewing hate speech..and they incite anger and violence..its Dangerous and Bad.

    When you got people Painting Swaticas and beinging signs with nazi Symbols and other real bad stuff..its bad.

    AND DOBBS IS AN IDIOT!

  • man, these guys did so shitty against dobbs on this. he was clearly caught and just got away with crime because they didn't pressure him enough. in fact, dobbs did the pressuring. crazy.

  • I strongly dislike Lou Dobbs

  • That's the worst I've seen of Dobbs. When I thought it couldn't get any worse...

  • HAte speech.. WHAT Americans have freespeech irrespective of people being offenned. The Jews really have taken over America using their Media.

  • The conversation goes from healthcare to freedom of speech to, of course, guns.

  • when a person like finney comes on to simply regurgitate ideological pabulum when confronted with valid questions you've got to call her out for what she is...a spokeshole.

    finney is fucking crazy if she thinks anyone at a town hall cares what she thinks about their decorum.

  • That is because the specific people you are referring to at these town hall meetings can't think, they are told.

  • y.clatter are you yet another person who can't believe there are those who would take a stand against what they passionately believe is the wrong course for the u.s.? the only drones at these town hall meetings are the union goons and the politicians.

    debasing a group of citizens because they chose to voice their frustrations over the proposed destruction of our health care system is hardly not thinking for themselves; it is, in fact, the very opposite.

  • That is a downright lie and you know it. The only people who have been manufactured are your little buddies in the shout-down business, who cannot handle a logical debate, because if god forbid, someone at one of these meetings was to pose a meaningful question to them, their brain would fry. Sarah Palin talking points must be one of the dumbest things a person can go on and you fell for it.

  • sorry, clatter, i'm not a palin fan (not a hater either). hope she goes peaceably off into the sunset.

    the people (dem/rep) alike are looking for answers from their reps in congress and, so far, no one is providing them with credible solutions.

    do you listen to the town halls besides the sensational news sound-bites? there have been plenty of meaningful questions posed and answered w/out shouting down.

    quit making it ideological; it's all of our necks if we go to national coverage.