for those of us LUCKY enough to live through the punk era, we were LUCKY and kids today will never understand what it was like to live during a time we didnt give a shit about life only having a good time and the state generally LEFT US ALONE TO ENJOY OURSELVES !!
State of world Ruts what a band if a cover brought you hear fine, but man whats up with young people, Clash,Ruts,Damned,Buzzcocks,999, DKs all out their and they blow the arse off anything in last 20 years.
I'm also 47, and know them well. In the very early 80's here in Melbourne an underground radio station used to play The Ruts stuff. I can't thank them enough
malcom's voice just fit the sound, and the sound fit malcom's voice just perfectly. henry rollins was good fill-in for that one gig, but the sound just wasnt the same.
I saw Gallows do this live at Oxford (with Lethal Bizzle!) and got to say they did it credit, I see it as a compliment to those that influenced them. The whole set was powerful and tight. Most eras cover something from the past, Pistols did Steppin Stone, Stranglers did Walk on By etc. RIP MO
Classic - but some things never change : while most of us are dancing around like dangerous maniacs to some amazing music, there are idiots here with nothing better to do than start a fight. Well, f**k you, I'm here to dance...
BRILLIANT - 1980 was a great year for rock music - the 80s was shite - but 1980 was the last year of the 70s - if you know what i mean - in December 1980 Spandau Ballet released their first record and the 80s began - but before that record was released it was great
Being 57 I saw most of the punk bands back then.. Including The Clash, Jam, Undertones, Boomtown rats and many more but The Ruts were by far the tightest most exciting band I ever saw... Even now when I put that old LP on the hairs on the back of my neck start to bristle and I cant help singing along....
Gallows gave it a good shot for their generation but landed well short of the mark..
Bit too much anger in their style for me but a good go nevertheless...
This is good, and it's a LEGENDARY song, but the gallows gave it a little kick ya'know, it's just that LITTLE bit more badass. Frank carter is a ginger with a soul, and as for the guitarist, he plays the song perfectly doesn't he? no mistakes. and the raper just adds a little twist, which is what punk is really about, NOT conforming and being the same.
@greendaydudesayshi Wash your mouth out with soap and water you stupid cunt!!!! The Gallows want fuckin shootin for fuckin such a great song up. WANKER!!!
@MOONST0MP , why? everyone has a right to their opinion, and sorry what did you just call me? wanker, cunt . . hmmm, and IM the one thats supposed to wash my mouth out?? anyways, it's not like i slagged this song off, i love it, but im open to all kinds of music, and i like the gallows version better. calm down dude, it's a song. >.<
@greendaydudesayshi When I watched the Gallows video of them attemptin to do this I felt sick, it was pathetic and I will never watch that shit again, This is a classic. Mabey I am sayin this because I bought the single when I was a kid when it first came out. All i can say is i am so glad I aint young today, Music was so much better when I was young. To me them Gallows wankers should have more respect, how dare they make such a mess of a great song. And dont call me 'dude' you fuckin prick!
@MOONST0MP , i can call you whatever i like, it's not rude, and threatening me over the internet doesnt make you look hard, pack it in. and they did have respect, that's the whole point of the gallows cover, because lets face it, most people don't have a clue who the ruts are, unless they're oldl enough to have experienced them when they came out, so what they gallows actually did was bring the song to light and introduce it in a way that appeals to the younger generation, like me.
@greendaydudesayshi "Threatenin you over the internet"?????? I havent threatend anybody over the internet? I said 'dont call me Dude you fuckin prick.' If you go round callin people 'dude' then you must be a prick ok.
went to see them in Newcastle at the Mayfair before Malcolms untimely death. They were great, I was lucky enough to meet the band and a roadie called Manor. We got pissed and stoned with them at the County hotel. One of my fav punk memories!!! I watched the gallows version of this earlier and found it to be a VERY RESPECTABLE RENDITION.
Yeah the Gallows version is more raw in my opinion... Anyway the rap part with Bizzle is because the song was anti-racism. Which is the whole meaning of punk in the first place.
@JimmyMayorga well, every band has it's own style. I think covering a song exactly how it was made is fine, but a real musician will add his own style to the song
@thecos1337 Right, but a ghetto acting MTV hip-hopper is not exactly what a punk rock band should include in any of their songs, let alone a cover of a song by another band.
Bizzle is in the Gallows version because they covered it to combat racism and to fund cancer research. This is an anti racism song to begin with, they did it in Foxy's honour!
To me this doesnt appeal as much as Gallows does, since i like harder vocals and i think these vocals are much like to pop and hardly punk, but thats just my opinion.
THIS was a tune i was 14 listerned to this Yellow Man and all sorts and to the man that said John Peel ! Nothing but respect for that Man ! LEGEND . His mind was free and how many bands got their break on his show !
The Gallows cover is a modern version, but as a vocalist he doesn't hold a candle to the original. Gallows are just a new band, that's all. The original captures the energy and excitement of the time period when it was first released. I can still recall every single lyric 29 years later.
not all white people who like rap are wiggers. and lets be real here, punk and rap have a pretty extensive history. johnny rotten was friends with afrikaa bambataa (or however that's spelled)....
I have this episode actually and its a repeat performance from the 17th of April 1980 and Peter Powell is introducing it at the beginning of the clip.
This reminds me of the pitch battles between the musical factors at the time. Punks, mods, rude boys, skins and metalheads were all at it. Everyone gets on now which is great. We know we have the same common enemies - society! PROPAGANDA!! PROPAGANDA!!!
I appreciate their energy but really the Gallows version is ridiculous. Silly liberties with the lyrics to make it a fashion-punk party anthem? Please. Ironically, Dag Nasty did the same thing in the 80's with their straight edge version of the song. Also ridiculous. The original stands the test of time.
This is a much more powerful version than the gallows one...its just weak. boys vs men i'm afraid...sound like they should be on pop idol. Shame really wanted to like it, but i guess the The Ruts did it right first time around and all others will pale compared to this timeless classic
not sure how anyone can compare Gallows to The Ruts, Gallows shout a bit, The Ruts were second only to the Clash in their championing of black music at the time of punk, and wrote songs that meant, and still mean something.
I'm not even sure what I meant mate, just couldn't really see how the small time of space where Bizzle was singing made the song any better, it was mainly just Gallows doing what they usually do and making quite abit of noise. I hate wolfmother and the darkness. Whatever happened to Wolfmother? Did they just disappear off the face of the Earth?
The Gallows version is a whole lot stronger and more rallying then this, but doesn't carry the message. But the whole point of that is because this generation doesn't need that message and doesn't need to get a song going to kick the crap out'a Nazis. There aren't any going to gigs and if they are found, survival rate is pretty low for them. The Gallows version suits our time just like The Ruts suited theirs. Both as good as the other in my opinion.
I think the gallows cover maybe doesn't carry such a strong message but I think they've just re-done it as an attempt to unite the youth of today, shame its not that simple
2 of 2.During this time (late 70s and the 80s) a Nazi/racist Skinhead faction reared its ugly head and regularly clashed with Rude Boys and basically anyone else they get there Nazi saluting hands on. Violence was just as bad then!
Nazi Skins and Reggae Skins/Rude Boys should NEVER be confused! N.B. Check out the Two Tone label. KICK FUCK OUT THE NAZI BASTARDS!
God bless The Ruts. R.I.P Paul Fox.
P.S. The potent message of this song is lost in The Gallows cover, but still a good effort.
The raw and gutsy passion of The Ruts will never be topped.
This song touches on the tribal tension of youth culture at the time.
Rude Boys were of Jamaican origin (late 50s/early 60s) and their lifestyle revolved around Ska, distinctive smart attire and at times serious violence.
Ska was grasped by the first Mods (circa 64) and then by the original Skinhead movement (circa 69) who were heavily influenced by the Rude Boys.
Dag Nasty covered this song too, B side of the 7" "All ages show". The Ruts were great. Jah War is a classic too; the 2 albums are, probably, among the best punk albums of that period, and if you believe punk and reggae can be mixed intelligently,if don't know about it, check Stiff Little Fingers Peel session, for a cover of "Johnny was" (Bob Marley) , and "it doesn't make it allright" (The specials), and yes, I know, the Clash bla bla.. but, never been a big fan, sorry.
there are a few covers that do add and surpass the originals - but listen mate - Gallows are NOT one of them and hardly deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Hendrix's cover of All Along the Watchtower. Also just who's version of Knockin' is better than Dylans? answer : no one's (and please don't say GnR).
well I pay homage to the original guys ya know they had the idea and so without this no gallows version but i agree the gallows track has more agression... i love both versions this kinda gives me an age around Thin Lizzy
the pistols r set to relese new songs and maybe a new album the stranglers r still going the buzzcokcs r still releasing albums so is the damned so how the fuck is punk dead
ya know, never was the biggest fan of the ruts, and I do like the Gallows, but I gotta say, in my mind, both renditions are about equal, with positives and negatives.
fuk sake lol u make it sound like gallows have banned ppl from lisnin to this version n now they av dun a version of it no1 can ever lisen to the original the havent ruined it evn if u dnt lik the gallows version doesnt mean this is ruined
Well you have the Ruts to thank for that. And the Ruts will probably be thanking Gallows for raising their profile and introducing them to the youth of today. Punk is alive and well.
punk died in 1978/9 then transformed into new wave , you cant beat the pistols,the strangers,the damned,and the buzzcocks, etc,todays punks could have a thousand gallows and still couldnt match the 70s scene,try as you mite
Sorry mate, punk is still alive. The Pistols are doing a number of gigs this year!! And the Gallows guitarist is technically superior to most of the punks of the 70`s.Buy their album, you might be surprised.
class track,class band & an honour to have been a witness.
helio221 2 weeks ago
to Malcolm Owen- starr! Alive
druimnaguie 1 month ago
for those of us LUCKY enough to live through the punk era, we were LUCKY and kids today will never understand what it was like to live during a time we didnt give a shit about life only having a good time and the state generally LEFT US ALONE TO ENJOY OURSELVES !!
frankgallagherwasere 1 month ago 2
@Evthedrunk you should probably check it out its awesome. not how i discovered the ruts though
kix7711therealone 2 months ago
This is FUCKING CLASS _ u CUNTS! - Proper BRITISH - ENGLISH - Means fuck all - God bless him - I wasnt even born when this was out - Fuck off u cunts
hhhaaazzziii 3 months ago
State of world Ruts what a band if a cover brought you hear fine, but man whats up with young people, Clash,Ruts,Damned,Buzzcocks,999, DKs all out their and they blow the arse off anything in last 20 years.
DelStrainComedy 6 months ago 8
what a band
calboy64 6 months ago
oh this is fucking proper
5stringdropout 6 months ago 2
Segs still has hair here!
thenamesbondy 8 months ago
I'm also 47, and know them well. In the very early 80's here in Melbourne an underground radio station used to play The Ruts stuff. I can't thank them enough
MrAz1963 8 months ago
wow iam 47 and remember them in my teens,,just a great band
joeyg2 8 months ago 2
Classic!
Dillboy 8 months ago
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mysterywhylay 8 months ago
malcom's voice just fit the sound, and the sound fit malcom's voice just perfectly. henry rollins was good fill-in for that one gig, but the sound just wasnt the same.
paragshah2112 9 months ago
how oi as fuck does malcolm look on this?
randypan71 9 months ago
I saw Gallows do this live at Oxford (with Lethal Bizzle!) and got to say they did it credit, I see it as a compliment to those that influenced them. The whole set was powerful and tight. Most eras cover something from the past, Pistols did Steppin Stone, Stranglers did Walk on By etc. RIP MO
ClashCityRocket 9 months ago
@ClashCityRocket my mate loves the gallows...he didnt know this was a cover....played him this...he nearly poo-ed at how good this........
randypan71 9 months ago 5
How I loved this band.
hotclaws 10 months ago
A true classic. Punks not dead!
marcocatano 11 months ago 2
one of the best punk band ever,and agreat lead singer
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amlshadilini 1 year ago
Classic - but some things never change : while most of us are dancing around like dangerous maniacs to some amazing music, there are idiots here with nothing better to do than start a fight. Well, f**k you, I'm here to dance...
FreedomJunkie 1 year ago
BRILLIANT - 1980 was a great year for rock music - the 80s was shite - but 1980 was the last year of the 70s - if you know what i mean - in December 1980 Spandau Ballet released their first record and the 80s began - but before that record was released it was great
NeilThompson30 1 year ago
i love both gallows and ruts versions anyway you ass wankers lol
shit311 1 year ago
Being 57 I saw most of the punk bands back then.. Including The Clash, Jam, Undertones, Boomtown rats and many more but The Ruts were by far the tightest most exciting band I ever saw... Even now when I put that old LP on the hairs on the back of my neck start to bristle and I cant help singing along....
Gallows gave it a good shot for their generation but landed well short of the mark..
Bit too much anger in their style for me but a good go nevertheless...
bobreeder 1 year ago
@bobreeder did you see any of the 2 TONE bands mate?
beano1eye 1 year ago
@beano1eye No... 2Tone was never my thing..
bobreeder 9 months ago
This is good, and it's a LEGENDARY song, but the gallows gave it a little kick ya'know, it's just that LITTLE bit more badass. Frank carter is a ginger with a soul, and as for the guitarist, he plays the song perfectly doesn't he? no mistakes. and the raper just adds a little twist, which is what punk is really about, NOT conforming and being the same.
greendaydudesayshi 1 year ago
@greendaydudesayshi Wash your mouth out with soap and water you stupid cunt!!!! The Gallows want fuckin shootin for fuckin such a great song up. WANKER!!!
MOONST0MP 1 year ago
@MOONST0MP , why? everyone has a right to their opinion, and sorry what did you just call me? wanker, cunt . . hmmm, and IM the one thats supposed to wash my mouth out?? anyways, it's not like i slagged this song off, i love it, but im open to all kinds of music, and i like the gallows version better. calm down dude, it's a song. >.<
greendaydudesayshi 1 year ago
@greendaydudesayshi When I watched the Gallows video of them attemptin to do this I felt sick, it was pathetic and I will never watch that shit again, This is a classic. Mabey I am sayin this because I bought the single when I was a kid when it first came out. All i can say is i am so glad I aint young today, Music was so much better when I was young. To me them Gallows wankers should have more respect, how dare they make such a mess of a great song. And dont call me 'dude' you fuckin prick!
MOONST0MP 1 year ago
@MOONST0MP Hear hear!!! Very well said my freind.
GreenGobllin 1 year ago
@MOONST0MP , i can call you whatever i like, it's not rude, and threatening me over the internet doesnt make you look hard, pack it in. and they did have respect, that's the whole point of the gallows cover, because lets face it, most people don't have a clue who the ruts are, unless they're oldl enough to have experienced them when they came out, so what they gallows actually did was bring the song to light and introduce it in a way that appeals to the younger generation, like me.
greendaydudesayshi 1 year ago
@greendaydudesayshi "Threatenin you over the internet"?????? I havent threatend anybody over the internet? I said 'dont call me Dude you fuckin prick.' If you go round callin people 'dude' then you must be a prick ok.
MOONST0MP 1 year ago
@MOONST0MP how does calling you dude make me a prick? jeez, if anyones a prick it's you, who swears for no reason, get a life dude!
greendaydudesayshi 1 year ago
The Gallows version is a poor attempt,mainly coz the musicianship isn't even close to The Ruts.....
peteyzfr1 1 year ago
What a band .,.. !!!!
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dilharaanjani 1 year ago
Saw them as a teenager at Clouds in Edinburgh, with The Mekons and I've had very little nights that top that. I even talked to Faye Fyfe that night.
I have heard the Gallows version of this and to say it is shit really gives shit a bad name.
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adrienolson 1 year ago
went to see them in Newcastle at the Mayfair before Malcolms untimely death. They were great, I was lucky enough to meet the band and a roadie called Manor. We got pissed and stoned with them at the County hotel. One of my fav punk memories!!! I watched the gallows version of this earlier and found it to be a VERY RESPECTABLE RENDITION.
1962jacker 1 year ago
secret soldiers would make a good addition -
cosak23 1 year ago
Gallows version is terrible, the Gallows guitarist is no Paul Fox, and as for Malcolm Owen there's no comparison.
jethropike1964 1 year ago
crack and smell me arse! pillgrams spelict mistakes lis not speak
rezlerken 1 year ago
RUTS... best version... original version
Photonzos 1 year ago
gallows.....forget it,nowhere near it
hEyes1000 1 year ago
long live tha ruts
rubitchen 1 year ago
MASSIVE
heavydutydudes 1 year ago
lost count the amount of times i saw the ruts.fuck me what a great band even today no one can top em rip malc and foxy.
seasidebob1 1 year ago
oh yeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh
XVLaHireXV 1 year ago
Yeah the Gallows version is more raw in my opinion... Anyway the rap part with Bizzle is because the song was anti-racism. Which is the whole meaning of punk in the first place.
shallyhally 1 year ago
malcolm owen 14/7/80 aged 26 almost 30 years ago
GONE TO SOON
hoddlewaddle 1 year ago
No bands today even come close to the bands of the late seventies
pawnsacrifice1 1 year ago
Am i allowed to love this AND gallows' version?
therur 2 years ago 2
@therur I do ^^''
SweetHeroin 2 years ago
no :D
okorjelodjubre88 2 years ago
aboslute top flippin brilliant brilliant
XVLaHireXV 2 years ago
the guitar guys r a Lil too happy!!!!!
racoon1957 2 years ago
rude boys are fecking amazing
Ska and Punk ftw (Y) ;)
MrM0ng 2 years ago
great band - RIP Malcolm & Foxy!
66gadus 2 years ago 2
I don't know much about the Gallows, but I do know that to cover a song is the highest complement one band can give to another! \m/
thecos1337 2 years ago
@thecos1337 what about the whole rapping part? :p
JimmyMayorga 1 year ago
@JimmyMayorga well, every band has it's own style. I think covering a song exactly how it was made is fine, but a real musician will add his own style to the song
thecos1337 1 year ago
@thecos1337 Right, but a ghetto acting MTV hip-hopper is not exactly what a punk rock band should include in any of their songs, let alone a cover of a song by another band.
JimmyMayorga 1 year ago
@JimmyMayorga XD oh, believe me, I agree, but whatever. Let them be happy and do their thing, and we'll do ours!
thecos1337 1 year ago
@thecos1337 excellent point. and just so we're clear, I love the gallows's version, too. I just skip the rap part and pretend it never happened x)
JimmyMayorga 1 year ago
@JimmyMayorga cool man! I like their version too, but I prefere the Ruts...
Rock on kiddo -^_^-
thecos1337 1 year ago
@JimmyMayorga Where's this punk rule book then? I always thought the whole point was year zero forever, no rules, no formula to commodify
handofsutekh 1 year ago
@handofsutekh
Too right. It's meant to be diverse. Not identikit narrow minded hardcore thrash.
SatansHellBunny 1 year ago
Bizzle is in the Gallows version because they covered it to combat racism and to fund cancer research. This is an anti racism song to begin with, they did it in Foxy's honour!
CaseyDFloyd 2 years ago 2
To me this doesnt appeal as much as Gallows does, since i like harder vocals and i think these vocals are much like to pop and hardly punk, but thats just my opinion.
spacewolf77 2 years ago
Hmmm....The Ruts Wrote & Recorded This 30 years ago...Gallows was a cover, released shortly after Foxy's death..in his honour..get over yourselves!!
triacyde 2 years ago
they id it for music against racisum thats why
LittleLukeCOBHC 2 years ago
I know this is the original, but I think that Gallows did it better.
xG33Kx 2 years ago
The who?
kingslndflyr 2 years ago
Yep, but 30 years later without writing it....
triacyde 2 years ago
Gallows must have heard the original from their parents (vinyl) record collection! RIP Malcolm and Paul.
SianK24 2 years ago 9
THIS was a tune i was 14 listerned to this Yellow Man and all sorts and to the man that said John Peel ! Nothing but respect for that Man ! LEGEND . His mind was free and how many bands got their break on his show !
pmo56 2 years ago
Gallows version sucked arse! Kind of an insult that such a piss-poor cover came out when Foxy was dying of cancer :(
GS160Mk2 2 years ago
gallows did a great cover, fuck you loser
Saikulv100 2 years ago
this and TG Version are fkin beasty
BrandXdude1567 2 years ago
Wow. This is the first time I've heard this version. I like it loaaaaads. Its gritty and a lot more emotional than the Gallows version.
Gallows ruined the song, by letting Lethal Bizzle in it. :(
leolovesrandom 2 years ago
The Ruts and The Damned rule!
pnebuz 2 years ago
LAst of the great Brit bands. Saw them in 1979 or so.
TonySlug 2 years ago
cheers classic
axellock62 2 years ago
The Gallows cover is a modern version, but as a vocalist he doesn't hold a candle to the original. Gallows are just a new band, that's all. The original captures the energy and excitement of the time period when it was first released. I can still recall every single lyric 29 years later.
coldfries 2 years ago 2
This is an amazing song, but I like how Gallows changed it to be directed at wiggers.
koryakapelinal333 2 years ago
not all white people who like rap are wiggers. and lets be real here, punk and rap have a pretty extensive history. johnny rotten was friends with afrikaa bambataa (or however that's spelled)....
drkrunk68 2 years ago
I didn't say they were. I love rap, but I don't act like a wigger. I didn't say "at white people who like rap", I said wiggers.
koryakapelinal333 2 years ago
and dee dee ramone took a short lived try at rap
liltimir 2 years ago
Lydon & Bambatta did a record together...
Wilthomer66 2 years ago
Best punk band ever! Malcolm's a genius! RIP
chowbotak 2 years ago 2
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WavyGravy22 2 years ago
rip
markusa 2 years ago
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Gallows version of this song is way better.
schwarzerFalkeunten 2 years ago
The Punks in the corner are Speeding like a jet. Brilliant.
kernowdel 2 years ago
I have this episode actually and its a repeat performance from the 17th of April 1980 and Peter Powell is introducing it at the beginning of the clip.
Glamking1 2 years ago
what a belting tune
piledriver89 2 years ago
yes sorry i probably should have been more specific - most kids don't experience the diversity in youth culture
iveco321 2 years ago
augek Cheers pal.
Excellent. Brings back great memories
5130FDR 2 years ago
This reminds me of the pitch battles between the musical factors at the time. Punks, mods, rude boys, skins and metalheads were all at it. Everyone gets on now which is great. We know we have the same common enemies - society! PROPAGANDA!! PROPAGANDA!!!
AndyLeeds 2 years ago
from mid 70s to 81 were fucking amazing times for music the rest u can keep
Ricer1968 2 years ago
i feel very privaliged to have been 16 when punk kicked off - kids today don't experience the diversity in youth culture like we did
iveco321 2 years ago 27
@iveco321
yes kids don't experiance youth culture....
:s
reallyphatkid 1 year ago
@iveco321 I'm 15 and I envy you
WazzzupWill 11 months ago 2
@WazzzupWill its amazing how many younger people are listening to 70's and 80's music , good on ya !
iveco321 11 months ago
I appreciate their energy but really the Gallows version is ridiculous. Silly liberties with the lyrics to make it a fashion-punk party anthem? Please. Ironically, Dag Nasty did the same thing in the 80's with their straight edge version of the song. Also ridiculous. The original stands the test of time.
agr42fontana 3 years ago 4
True, my brother, true !
ralphieretard 2 years ago
PUNK RULES
1983toby19947N531 3 years ago 3
If Carlsberg made this song it would 'Probably be the best punk record ever'. R.I.P Malcolm
skiboyrobertson 3 years ago
i actually prefer the gallows' version *hides*
sidandmoi 3 years ago
This is an awesome song, just irritates me, when they guitarist and bassist do that stupid status quo bit with their guitars.
ItLiesInTheProles 3 years ago
Status Ouo or Mud? What a shame there isnt a dececent version of West One with Malc on you toob.
allihalls 2 years ago
He was dead by the time it came out so they couldn't really promote it properly.
NeilThompson30 2 years ago
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gallows are mint and just cause they did this song doesnt make em shit because they made it their own so FUCK YOU :P
oewinnie 3 years ago
Anyone remember this was played constantly on Stuart Henry[Radio Lux;} while the movie by the Clash was in the Cinemas,Rude Boy........???
CBRSIXPACK 3 years ago
the ruts are timeless!
much respect to malcolm owen and paul fox!!!!!!
rest in peace my brothers!, rest in peace!
big up to john robb from goldblade for doing so much and helping with the dvd!
ecopunk66 3 years ago 2
This version is magnificent... The Gallows fucking suck dick.
rippercreeper 3 years ago
more melodic than Gallows version- the other one is more wild but I like both
Balsch 3 years ago 9
This is a much more powerful version than the gallows one...its just weak. boys vs men i'm afraid...sound like they should be on pop idol. Shame really wanted to like it, but i guess the The Ruts did it right first time around and all others will pale compared to this timeless classic
antz28270 3 years ago
not sure how anyone can compare Gallows to The Ruts, Gallows shout a bit, The Ruts were second only to the Clash in their championing of black music at the time of punk, and wrote songs that meant, and still mean something.
wehatetottenham 3 years ago 3
enittt.
AmoLou13 3 years ago
i think Gallows are quite annoying but their cover was cool, only because it had Lethal Bizzle on it. other than that, i prefer the original
guanjon 3 years ago
You what? You mean Bizzles, what.. Minute in the song?
Right.
asthenia44lb 3 years ago
make more sense next time please
& Gallows suck. they are so late. just like Wolfmother & The Darkness were lol
guanjon 3 years ago
I'm not even sure what I meant mate, just couldn't really see how the small time of space where Bizzle was singing made the song any better, it was mainly just Gallows doing what they usually do and making quite abit of noise. I hate wolfmother and the darkness. Whatever happened to Wolfmother? Did they just disappear off the face of the Earth?
asthenia44lb 3 years ago
lets face it gallows arent brilliant? maybe everyone should stop reading too much nme?
smonny9 3 years ago
The Gallows version is a whole lot stronger and more rallying then this, but doesn't carry the message. But the whole point of that is because this generation doesn't need that message and doesn't need to get a song going to kick the crap out'a Nazis. There aren't any going to gigs and if they are found, survival rate is pretty low for them. The Gallows version suits our time just like The Ruts suited theirs. Both as good as the other in my opinion.
Suetehk 3 years ago 5
I think the gallows cover maybe doesn't carry such a strong message but I think they've just re-done it as an attempt to unite the youth of today, shame its not that simple
mylescolbert1991 3 years ago 3
2 of 2.During this time (late 70s and the 80s) a Nazi/racist Skinhead faction reared its ugly head and regularly clashed with Rude Boys and basically anyone else they get there Nazi saluting hands on. Violence was just as bad then!
Nazi Skins and Reggae Skins/Rude Boys should NEVER be confused! N.B. Check out the Two Tone label. KICK FUCK OUT THE NAZI BASTARDS!
God bless The Ruts. R.I.P Paul Fox.
P.S. The potent message of this song is lost in The Gallows cover, but still a good effort.
WellSuspect 3 years ago 4
The raw and gutsy passion of The Ruts will never be topped.
This song touches on the tribal tension of youth culture at the time.
Rude Boys were of Jamaican origin (late 50s/early 60s) and their lifestyle revolved around Ska, distinctive smart attire and at times serious violence.
Ska was grasped by the first Mods (circa 64) and then by the original Skinhead movement (circa 69) who were heavily influenced by the Rude Boys.
All three cults enjoyed a renewal 10 years on.
WellSuspect 3 years ago 5
we will never surrender
teevanjohn 3 years ago
rude boys = skinheads?
PublicAgainst 3 years ago 2
Rude Boys - Gangster types..
greendayidiot13 3 years ago
this is amazing!!! gallows cover cannot be compare to the original this song is real street music!!! gallow is hardcore for mallpunx .
punketee 3 years ago
this is a cool song.check out gallows reworking of it.
christurkthebrave 3 years ago
this song is about kickin the crap outta nazis!
SpursFeeder 3 years ago
go thr ruts english masters
philagar 3 years ago
yeh! lol
pedbarstow 3 years ago
Ahh...my youth returned in 2 minutes!Good call.
hydraphone 4 years ago
What passion! This is what its about!!
suzypie400 4 years ago 2
Well said.
This version is more melodic, and the Gallows cover is more shouty & hardcore, but tbh they both own.
MCRsGerald 4 years ago 2
we had a band in vienna, who covered it double speed... oh my, back in the eighties ... never surrender!
sybil1964 4 years ago
i'm with you Bro
nonirog 4 years ago
HAAHAHAHA xD
pumpkinzer0 4 years ago
Dag Nasty covered this song too, B side of the 7" "All ages show". The Ruts were great. Jah War is a classic too; the 2 albums are, probably, among the best punk albums of that period, and if you believe punk and reggae can be mixed intelligently,if don't know about it, check Stiff Little Fingers Peel session, for a cover of "Johnny was" (Bob Marley) , and "it doesn't make it allright" (The specials), and yes, I know, the Clash bla bla.. but, never been a big fan, sorry.
botcontrol 4 years ago
I do as well :]
emxrawrr 4 years ago
ruts version is, of course, better - its the original , so it HAS to be better. Can't think of many covers that surpass the creators.
trippinflags 4 years ago 2
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All along the Watchtower?
Knocking on Heavens Door?
A couple for you there! Originals are hard to beat but it has been done.
I prefer Gallows.
smokeystrummer 4 years ago
there are a few covers that do add and surpass the originals - but listen mate - Gallows are NOT one of them and hardly deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Hendrix's cover of All Along the Watchtower. Also just who's version of Knockin' is better than Dylans? answer : no one's (and please don't say GnR).
trippinflags 4 years ago
well I pay homage to the original guys ya know they had the idea and so without this no gallows version but i agree the gallows track has more agression... i love both versions this kinda gives me an age around Thin Lizzy
muzikscud23 4 years ago
classic
streetbeatpoet 4 years ago 2
Tune!
DIZZYskin 4 years ago 2
Bloody amazing song. Up there with GSTQ and White Riot.
HoeMyDown 4 years ago 2
wow
jjvalentine 4 years ago
Punk is not the music, punk is the attitude imho!!!
augek 4 years ago
the pistols r set to relese new songs and maybe a new album the stranglers r still going the buzzcokcs r still releasing albums so is the damned so how the fuck is punk dead
djgrice85 4 years ago
Fuck you Faggot, you obviously don't know what punk is
nonirog 4 years ago
Hah, you need to give me a shout when the pro's show up then. Might want to buy yourself a Gallows album :)
infinitysnail 4 years ago
this song is all about the clash of white
teenage cults skins, punks, mods right wing versus the left etc. and gigs were usually disturbed by outbreaks of violance hardly relevent today
billcauk 4 years ago
ya know, never was the biggest fan of the ruts, and I do like the Gallows, but I gotta say, in my mind, both renditions are about equal, with positives and negatives.
dizzypunk 4 years ago
totally agree... still RIP
nomaddjs 4 years ago
ooh i have an opinion, i must be an idiot
jegg77 4 years ago
fuk sake lol u make it sound like gallows have banned ppl from lisnin to this version n now they av dun a version of it no1 can ever lisen to the original the havent ruined it evn if u dnt lik the gallows version doesnt mean this is ruined
tehe
15bailey15 4 years ago 2
Call me naive but i would never have heard this song if it wasn`t for Gallows. They`ve hardly ruined it, it sounds very similiar.
smokeystrummer 4 years ago
call me naive but I would never heard of the Gallows if they hadn't covered this song
billcauk 4 years ago
Well you have the Ruts to thank for that. And the Ruts will probably be thanking Gallows for raising their profile and introducing them to the youth of today. Punk is alive and well.
smokeystrummer 4 years ago 2
True my friend true.
Toma4449 4 years ago
ruts thanking the gallows lol ,other way round ,never heard of the gallows
merseyside 4 years ago
punk died in 1978/9 then transformed into new wave , you cant beat the pistols,the strangers,the damned,and the buzzcocks, etc,todays punks could have a thousand gallows and still couldnt match the 70s scene,try as you mite
merseyside 4 years ago
Sorry mate, punk is still alive. The Pistols are doing a number of gigs this year!! And the Gallows guitarist is technically superior to most of the punks of the 70`s.Buy their album, you might be surprised.
smokeystrummer 4 years ago