ya them show people ruined the breed I have a 4.5 month Pup and he is showing some good potential but mine comes from a field line not as pretty or as red got white patch on chest, streak on head and paws. but I tell you what he gives them pointers and english setters a run for their money
Ive a setter dog from a working line and hes bigger, hairier and heavier than the show type setters. It's great to see a setter doing what it is actually bred for as they are being bred more and more for "looking pretty" type dogs - fantastic to see one in action here!
gorgeous dog! Show breeders in north america have ruined the Irish Setter and Gordon Setter lines. This dog is very similar to my Field line Gordon, similar gait and looks ( ecept colour.
Really? Well, it is known that the Russians have lines of hunting Irish Setter that are very different for the Field-type lines we have in North America. In fact, they call the American field type Irish setter the "Red Setter." And it is somewhat different. It is much lighter in red.
I've just done a post on working line Irish setters. The ones we have in the US are very similar to the ones that were bred into the golden retriever in nineteenth century. We also have the goldens that still have setter features here, too, and the breeds are confused with each other.
@Retrieverman1 What do you mean the breeds are confused. In America most people hunt with field red setters now. They are two different dogs. I have a field red setter. Shes small but she is a deep red and doesn't look like a golden at all.
Notice the rocking, loping gait on this dog. It's called a "wolf hop" or "wolf lope." It is one of the most energy efficient gaits. Only working Irish setters (and very few of them) have this gait, and it occasionally pops up in working golden retrievers (a descendant of Irish setters).
In working golden retriever, we get this gait because of the Irish setter in them. It's a fault in the show ring for goldens to move like this, but it's helpful in the field.
i think irish setters were bred more for scaring up birds than pointing, which is why they are hyper and love to run. great dogs, only dog i've come across which is good with children and also protective against strangers.
Russians have lots of working red setters. The US is producing a working red setter, but it's a bit different from the Irish setter breed. It's lighter in color, and quite a bit smaller.
they were bred for hunting you idiot! there a sporting dog the only thing is most people use labs and other dogs and not many people use setters anymore.
No, he does. After intensive bird shooting the dog runs faster and stylish now. Most important thing this hunting dog looks like IS, when all filed trial dogs look like sh*t.
Very naice ypur dog. Speedy and hi head and nose. Beatiful dog , I like so much like to take the wind your dog . I was juice some times in México. ( retriever and bird dogs - horseback-
This dog comes from famous UK dogs of 50-60's both show and field trial champions Wendover Romance, Wendover Beggar and Brackenfield Hartsbourne Bronze...
ya them show people ruined the breed I have a 4.5 month Pup and he is showing some good potential but mine comes from a field line not as pretty or as red got white patch on chest, streak on head and paws. but I tell you what he gives them pointers and english setters a run for their money
USA4thewin 1 year ago
Ive a setter dog from a working line and hes bigger, hairier and heavier than the show type setters. It's great to see a setter doing what it is actually bred for as they are being bred more and more for "looking pretty" type dogs - fantastic to see one in action here!
winstonlegthigh99 2 years ago
Congratulations, for your awesome dog! In my oppinion, it´s the best breed for hunting, they´re restless and gallope like no one else...
andrefelipe18 3 years ago
true my setter just won't quit even tough she has been running for hours and hours.
mathias1211 2 years ago
gorgeous dog! Show breeders in north america have ruined the Irish Setter and Gordon Setter lines. This dog is very similar to my Field line Gordon, similar gait and looks ( ecept colour.
84Supraman 3 years ago 2
I've heard of the Russian Irish setters. You have preserved the old breed!
Retrieverman1 3 years ago
Actually this particular dog brings UK/Ireland blood and no one drop of Russian one.
Several days ago this dog got a CACT (Candidate to Russian FTCh by FCI rules)
Gennadi1959 3 years ago
Really? Well, it is known that the Russians have lines of hunting Irish Setter that are very different for the Field-type lines we have in North America. In fact, they call the American field type Irish setter the "Red Setter." And it is somewhat different. It is much lighter in red.
Retrieverman1 3 years ago
I've just done a post on working line Irish setters. The ones we have in the US are very similar to the ones that were bred into the golden retriever in nineteenth century. We also have the goldens that still have setter features here, too, and the breeds are confused with each other.
Retrieverman1 3 years ago
@Retrieverman1 What do you mean the breeds are confused. In America most people hunt with field red setters now. They are two different dogs. I have a field red setter. Shes small but she is a deep red and doesn't look like a golden at all.
urbansetter1 1 year ago
А я-то думала, ну где же они нашли такие просторные поля в Америке? Вот бы мне так! А потом услышала русскую речь :)
Люблю сеттеров, особенно ирландских. У афганы.
golden777empire 3 years ago
А куда же все американские паблик поля делись? :)))
Был там, поля видел, чего и вам желаю.
Gennadi1959 3 years ago
Complimenti, good.
Domusac 3 years ago
Notice the rocking, loping gait on this dog. It's called a "wolf hop" or "wolf lope." It is one of the most energy efficient gaits. Only working Irish setters (and very few of them) have this gait, and it occasionally pops up in working golden retrievers (a descendant of Irish setters).
westphalianprinz 3 years ago
Same dog in allmost 1 year, try search for Troy On Snipes or go to my videos.
The gallop is not so rocking as it was before.
Gennadi1959 3 years ago
In working golden retriever, we get this gait because of the Irish setter in them. It's a fault in the show ring for goldens to move like this, but it's helpful in the field.
westphalianprinz 3 years ago
Your golden's move in show ring galloping? Wow! ;)
Gennadi1959 3 years ago
No, the hunting field. In the show ring, it's a fault. And not all goldens have it.
westphalianprinz 3 years ago
i think irish setters were bred more for scaring up birds than pointing, which is why they are hyper and love to run. great dogs, only dog i've come across which is good with children and also protective against strangers.
silverscreenname 3 years ago
your kidding, right? IS are pointing dogs, or at least ment to be!!
ppaauull71 3 years ago
IS was and is pointing dog.
Legendary John Nash (Moanruad owner) did his best to return the dead point to red dogs after WW-II.
Gennadi1959 3 years ago
Beautiful Dogs!!!
lt543 4 years ago
my uncle john used to have one called 'dax' of all names... are theya good gun dog?
mbb05jb 4 years ago
It depends. One of good blood and after good training will become great gun dog. I've heard a lot of American working red's are realy mad.
Gennadi1959 4 years ago
Russians have lots of working red setters. The US is producing a working red setter, but it's a bit different from the Irish setter breed. It's lighter in color, and quite a bit smaller.
westphalianprinz 3 years ago
irish setters are cool i have one
winni3poohwifey 4 years ago
great work . excellent find.
lettersonapostcard 4 years ago
awesome bird dogs, i hav 1 of my own
vigburt 4 years ago
not good for hunting
mdsr2002 4 years ago
Look at 'More from Troy' photos. Wish you to get same results in fields.
Gennadi1959 4 years ago
thats because hes hunting, and on the trail of something, duh
vigburt 4 years ago
they were bred for hunting you idiot! there a sporting dog the only thing is most people use labs and other dogs and not many people use setters anymore.
codyclemmons92 4 years ago
that dog doesn't know how to run... i'm sorry
lucanada 4 years ago
No, he does. After intensive bird shooting the dog runs faster and stylish now. Most important thing this hunting dog looks like IS, when all filed trial dogs look like sh*t.
Gennadi1959 4 years ago
Very naice ypur dog. Speedy and hi head and nose. Beatiful dog , I like so much like to take the wind your dog . I was juice some times in México. ( retriever and bird dogs - horseback-
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joscarch 4 years ago
This dog comes from famous UK dogs of 50-60's both show and field trial champions Wendover Romance, Wendover Beggar and Brackenfield Hartsbourne Bronze...
Gennadi1959 4 years ago