Infinity Miles Per Gallon: Art Haines and the Solar Car

[eprofessorjulio]

solução para a poluição

[dsourn]

I see problem with this, the government and motor industry will not approve of this. Just the ideal of free energy and no maintenance scares them. I would love a solar power car but we all know they will fight or delay it for years claiming its still a trial phase and drop it

[ken10092]

So when do you go into mass production?

[rclark23]

11:52 would have been cool to see his mod for the rail-road tracks,, I know he's thought about it,,

[newfarmerfilms]

I uploaded another copy of this video with complete audio. See my channel.

[orwek1]

Have you thought about re-uploading this video so the audio comes back?

[pheenix42]

This is approximately the same point Henry Ford was at with his 'quadricycle' many years ago. Who knows how far it could go, eh? =D

[phantasmbunny]

It definitely reminds me of an Amish buggy--especially with the pylon-orange triangle across the back.

I wish this were more practical for my situation (unfortunately I have to put up with highway driving in order to get ANYWHERE, even the grocery store).

[TK42138]

Nicely filmed, good interview and a fascinating subject.

[MegaCaboodle]

Hey, we have a store in Melbourne Bch. FL. We have seen Andy's car and his sister (who just got one too) for the past year in Mel Beach. You have a picture on him on your website. We love your solar car idea and think you are a fantastic designor. We love the whole green movement and you are heading up the heard with this amazing design. We are from Maine but have lived in Florida for the past 18 years. Would love to buy one. What are the costs of the car or how do we find out more info?

[newfarmerfilms]

@MegaCaboodle You can visit Art Haines's website sunnev dot com. Thanks! - New Farmer Films.

[revrickw]

at the 5:35 mark, this video looses audio

[boomer290]

I want one of these extremely bad. My gas powered car is about dead and something like this would save me.

[boomer290]

I wish i could afford something like that... My gas powered car is about dead and I can't afford to fix it.

[ryseancorp]

sound cuts out at 5:30

[newfarmerfilms]

@ryseancorp Thanks for the message, Ryan. The audio suddenly stopped a few days ago. I've sent a report to YouTube.

[my80chevette]

@newfarmerfilms The audio still cuts out at 5:30. Do you have the original video to reupload? I would like to see the whole video with sound. Might want to find another site to put a copy of the video incase one goes down.

[my80chevette]

@newfarmerfilms The sound still cuts out at 5:30......... Stupid Youtube!!

[newfarmerfilms]

@my80chevette I've uploaded another copy. See my channel.

[aldenbuzz]

Ingenuity at it's best.

[tamilee08]

Art Haines is my hero!

[tamilee08]

At Haines is my hero!

[TimpBizkit]

Brilliant, I can park my car at night time and no one can steal it! (unless it has a storage battery)

[TheGrayman1234]

Add two more solar panels on the roof and a couple of more batteries. Would love to see the plans on this.

[LEDthings]

These need to be put into production. There are investors I am sure. Do you have a WEB site? I wish you had more details about the car and less stories about the community, moving, etc.... What kind of batteries / motor / controller did you use? LED headlights? They would help lots on the battery life for night driving. Does it get the 20-30 miles you planned on? 20 minutes to go 3 miles is onloy 9 miles an hour. How steep a hill can it handle? More aerodynamic design would help,

[newfarmerfilms]

@LEDthings For more information, contact Art Haines at his website, sunnev.com

[Kipsass]

looks like smart car from village

[Kipsass]

looks like smart car from vilage :D

[NoiteraD]

Shouldve made it longer and less high, more space for solar panels (i know theyre damn expensive) and more aerodynamic.

[djbarcode5xyz]

Would it be possible to put about 8 batteries under the hood and run off of two batteries at a time (to get more voltage and speed boost), and have each group of 2 batteries labeled as (Group A, B, C and D), and then when group A is losing voltage, flip a switch to run off of Group B as the solar panel charges Group A, but when Group B is drained but not quite done charging, we still have Groups C and D to go through before flipping the switch back to freshly charged Group A then B, etc?

[newfarmerfilms]

@djbarcode5xyz Contact Art Haines on his website. He can better answer your question.

[newfarmerfilms]

@djbarcode5xyz Contact Art Haines on his website. He can better answer your question.

[sunrydz777]

Very decent American car

[stelicr]

The car is great.Not so important how look or is not so fast Is fast enough to can travel around The most important is the car run without gas I have a question I saw the solar panel ,is not large The car use only solar power to can travel ,to keep the battery charged??? Not need to charge the battery at end of day from the power grid ?????? Can be used the roof of car to mount a second solar panel

[sharon102645]

You done real good and gave those kids inspiration hats off to sir.

[Cheshire167]

wait...the students build it and he uses it.  he sounds like hes just cheap.

[manoman0]

But above all.....I still think it's cool what he's doing.

[manoman0]

I doubt Detroit CAN'T build it. When I look at it, I am actually quite glad Detroit WON'T build it. Side Impact Protection? Inflatable Restraint Systems? Tightening Seatbelts? Power Windows? A/C? LOL

[DontTread0nMe1776]

Maybe this will be the new Chinese Hummer H4? LOL

[manoman0]

Oi, mate, the Chinese just bought HUMMER....

[MORGAN999]

And some of you are right - we currently do not produce electricity in the cleanest ways possible. The sun and wind are free, and pretty darned clean. You're fighting HUGE money and corporate interests, though. In any event, we must move away from oil. It may sound trite, but it's true - If we kill the planet, we kill ourselves. There is no such thing as 'away' when it comes to CO2, toxic chemicals, etc. It won't go 'away'.

[MORGAN999]

If you haven't seen the movie 'Who Killed The Electric Car', you really have to. The politics behind NOT giving people clean transportation technology will boggle your mind. We already have some genius engineers and inventors who made all kinds of wonderful clean things...only to be 'killed' by the oil and auto industries. Even alternative fuels are designed to FORCE you to go to a filling station.

I applaud this gentleman! I love this little car! BRAVO, Sir!

[oksard100]

too fast for my taste

[manoman0]

Not too fast, that thing's just unsafe at any speed

[newfarmerfilms]

It's just a prototype. The new model has disc brakes, seat belts, directional signals, etc. -- a street legal vehicle.

[manoman0]

Hi. Sounds good, disc brakes. Well, guess improving it is a constant effort. Good luck.

[TucsonBassPlayer]

Damn, next thing you know he'll let someone ride in the back of a pick up. ; ]

[manoman0]

LOL

[lisn92]

right electric cars are not 100% harmless to the planet, seen as we get electricity by burning fossil fuels, only when u charge the car up using substainable power is it 100% harmless to the planet or unless u use solar pannels to power it like this one, just fort i wud point that out, have fun peeps

[mmar4281990]

yea but wat about the batterys they do harm the planet

[lisn92]

yeh but if they are good batteries they would last for ages, bout 5000 recharges but then they are only used to store the potential energy made from the solar pannels, so really, if the batteries die out cus of exhaustion, it wont matter cus you would be able to use them to use the car while its still daylight so yeh maybe like 98% harmless to the environment if you chuck the batteries away

[cthulufunk]

Looks like an Amish golf cart.

[ramonet27101993]

the money is on the oil, so nobody who have oil bussines want electric cars, but people than me that love us planet yes,so my car will work by batteries, ecology and freeride 4ever

sorry 4 my english im from catalonia

[ujayet]

People relax!! those idiots in Detroit can build a solar power!.Car. they just simply don't want too, why?? because the money is in the Oil! those greedy bastard would never want you to drive solar cars or any other alternative energy source.. as long as you continue to buy gas,!.. they will continue to build gas hogger vehicles. soon as you stop driving those gas hogger... only then they will consider other alternative!!. until then,.. they will keep milking the oil industry dry!!!

[mihajlovic28]

extraaa

[rhinohippo]

wow, you sure made me smile

[BloodJunkie11]

im sure everyone wants a car that looks like that. not.

[campaninof]

bellissimo! 5.0 star!

[foxrunneris]

"the shift"? what are you talking about?

[ZeroGasoline]

Great work gentleman!

[lschlachter1]

i dont think he had a solar panel on the roof. he should install another one on the roof and then add a second battery

[guitarpikz]

those stupid idiot in detriot can't build shit....these should be CEO of GM

[prankmypants]

good shit! i think more people need to make these. I'm currently trying to make my own one but struggling to afford the materials. But my project is to find out the best way to make a poormans solar car. Imagine if you saw a diy solar car on instructables witha build cost less than £200 / $400

[runnergirl36]

That is so cool! Where did you find the solar cells?

[billionaireby16]

This is very nice! It's about time that we started Manufacturing goods for Peacetime....

[miconn69]

have you considered researching if a wind turbine (like the small one they have for RVs) on your vehicle would give a little extra charge while traveling down the road?

[kadakas]

no it wont, because the turbine will add extra drag

[captort]

so nice!

[freedomfighter252]

Solar panels actually polute the environment more. To make just one simple panel you need to burn dangerous chemicals that release deadly VOC's into the evironment thus, making everything worse. I have an idea, let's just walk to your jobs or ride a bike. That will surely stimulate our economy.

[malcomxtreme]

In what part of the manufacturing process is that?

[freedomfighter252]

Smelting and adding paint.

[zobraman33]

hi i want this program can u send me a link to get it since i can't find it and it's it's on autodesk then i can't get it but i need it for designing vehicles

[jcfdillon]

there's more sunlight above the clouds. also, you have more surface area on a sort of disk shaped fuselage, or perhaps even better, sort of flattened toroidal fuselage perhaps. the fuselage can be carbon fiber to reduce weight. power is free solar, then run that electric power thru a Seversky Ionocraft air propulsion grid. notice you get rid of the junk weight of wheels, suspension, and any sort of engine. also, Seversky Ionocraft has efficiency of scale, so do the thin film solar photovltaics.

[toobroke2fight]

Maybe adding a tilting roof so the top solar panel can be aimed at the sun better for better charging. Not to be driven that way, (unless very slow) but it can increase the efficiency of the panel by 40%. My 2 cents

[patrick31031976]

Nice video

[nadeem5476]

you didnt tell us whats the AMP of solar panel to charge the battery and which typo battery you use and how long it lasts etc !

[blabbershnitz]

yes! high school students rule!

[igualnimp]

lol "we ewnted make it look more like a hummer" lol! or did i missunderstood?? :)

im laughing but i have many respect for such a project.

[hawaiidoves]

Great car! Too bad you are not mass-producing it.

[Cr3ativity]

Great achievement. Only one thing, why not a solar panel on the roof?

[Redshift21]

In a way it reminds me of a car from the 1920's or 1930's like a model "T" ford.

[99cachorro]

this is a great educational hobby. You certainly havn't wasted your time, It is the small car of the future's little brother.

[ackpht]

If you're going to build from scratch you might as well aim to build something with performance that a production electric golf cart with solar panels tacked on couldn't match. I don't see it here.

[theclaybox]

Maybe if you weren't retarded you would notice that he addressed the issue of converting a golf cart and why he didn't.

[ackpht]

Obviously because he wanted to build his own- but that doesn't make it some advance in technology.

[theprisonersix]

Fun project.I'd be willing to bet most of us old guys- kinda like Art - read about projects like this in the 50's and 60's in Science and Mechanics, Popular Science, Popular Mechanics, Mechanics Illustrated and all the "Guy" mags we had. Hey Art...remember the "King Midget" built in Akron Ohio? Great gas milage...easily repairable at any hardware store. Why not now? NANNY STATE and Leftists who want the all powerful socialist government to dictate what we can have. Continued in part 2.

[theprisonersix]

It's NOt the oil companies it's the farking leftist who won't let people do things. As someone else posted...License, Insurance, Safety equipment? Ok..anyone ever hear of neighborhood or farm vehicles? Nix to that in PA! Mopeds...nopers! FQIQ I drive a Durango and it's incredible! Best all around vehicle - for my family - EVAR! Don't give a hoot about milage, I need to carry people and materials over a daily 40 mile radius. It does that very well.

[videojockeysword]

They could have put solar panels on the roof! It does not have all the tings necessary for DoT approval, so it is no different than a scooter...definitely not street legal. A fun project for kids who learn nothing useful in school. We need to bring back "SHOP" classes, something even I missed. I only got electronics in a local learning center for computer repair certification...which I got kicked out of, because the teacher knew less than I did. Fortunately, I read the book!

[LiquidMetalBand]

When you have an average Joe making a car like this, just imagine what secets the oil companies have locked up... It's so sad. People are going to figure it out one day, so why not just tell us how to get off of that black poison?

[meinasalon]

How much to buy one? Can you tell me how to buy it. Thanks.

[newfarmerfilms]

Do a Google search for sunnev. That's Art's website for the car kit.

[DChappelle27]

how do you drive on the road with no license plate and no insurance? oh, and if its a fifteen minute drive, why not buy a bike? excercise is vital for living a healthy, long life...

[toeg1]

Great concept, great production.

This is exactly how Ford started out at the turn of the 20th Century.

[Ronwang]

Yes, we should utilize the solar energy.

[gmankan]

i want one its so gas saving!!!!!

[toamaori]

yea man country people rock :)

[anime1245x]

Hi I really like this idea. Do you need a driver's license or car insurance? Good luck with the new model.

[aadesig]

That kind of car I want some day :) nice!

[hawkermustang]

neat toy!!

[CaymanWolfe]

We own property on a Caribbean Island (Little Cayman) where the speed limit is 25 mph island wide. This car would be perfect for almost everyone there if our government would just grant a special license for it. Lots of Caribbean islands could use them.

[mynonsense]

where would we be if the model t started of as solar

[atlanticus]

Great video, really enjoyed it.

But you forget to mention the specs like the type of battery that it uses and the overall cost of the vehicle..

[steppapajon]

This is the kind of project that very well may shape the lives of the young people that participated in it. We need more people like Art to involve our youth. They are our future. My hat is off to you sir.

[frogeye3000]

Way to go!

Good job all together!

Hope you will make a "stage 2" or something with some design students, too.

:)

just kidding.

Concept of the future!!!

[tsport100]

You're right. A conventional electric motor can last 100,000 hours.

That's equal to 6 million kms. Compared to 300,000km before your average ICE dies of heat stress.

[subach]

f(x)=1/x, singularity is near...

[Minuvash]

Dear Art,Thank you very much. It's great.

[kenth68]

Relative short term answer, nuclear plants and electric vehicles. Longer term, when they become available, fusion and orbital solar power and electric vehicles.

[isi2isi67]

What a nice guy

[skaterboyiscool]

I'm doing a solar powered car for my ppp project! thanks for the idea!!

[thinazzabird]

Art Haines, your solar car has more heart than any others I've seen.

[redhotcustoms]

E85 hybrid is not the best answer. a diesel hybrid would be way better, but still not the best, a plug in diesel hybrid would be better, but the real answer, or so i believe, is electric. as Art has shown, you can get our electricity from the sun, which makes it free. even if you get your electricity from coal, its still cleaner than gasoline, and if you live in places like california, than chances are you get your electriciy from air, so it is the cleanest method.

[caraddict520]

this car is cool, but its UGLY

[techforumz]

ethanol is the worst source of ALL. Ok, maybe nuclear is worse, but it's right behind. More energy goes into producing eth. than out.

[techforumz]

nice job. Detroit can't because everytime they try, the gas companies kill them.

[panhead55]

ha, that is so true too. someday very soon we will have no choice to change our greedy u.s.a. antics or we will simply wither away...

[forgmebadman]

Thanks for this post,,,anyone that can get kids,out of the computer/beadroom gets my vote,,great work man,i wish the world had more folks like you.

those kids may now have a good future,and an interest in there futures too,,thanks again.

[tttthephantom]

On the other end of the spectrum you have the Venturi Astrolab solar car, but that costs over $100,000! You can find the Venturi and many more electric cars on EVtransPortal dot com.

[themaster408]

According to his website it's 5,279 for the parts. However, it's FREAKEN SOLAR ENERGY! Gah, I want one of these soooooo bad!

[victorgrigas]

Your car is awesome!!!

[hugens26]

How much did alll of this cost

[energyadvertiser]

Check out my solar powered prius video. 70 MPG and if you do less than 6 miles per day and 42mph you never have to buy gas or plug in again.

[hsk01945]

Congratulations! Q's: What initial goals/objectives were implemented? Also, do you have any more details about the design, the components used and where you obtained them. I too would like to try a similar project with the help of others here at our local high school. Also - final costs of the project? Could you post a contact address so I can sent you mine?

[newfarmerfilms]

Contact Art directly at the email address at the end of the movie. He has a website for the solar car.

[techforumz]

specs? I might wanna build one.

[newfarmerfilms]

Check the comments for specs from Art, along with his website address.

[sarpicaste]

Great film, very well done. The topic is also a great one, thanks for making it on such an important topic.

[tormentor87]

hahah nice

[sustainabletech]

nice work!

[OrganicDrew]

awesome, they could put an ondemand hydrogen generator to produce electricity through internal combustion in the trunk area and have a mega huge range as they could store hydrogen fuel in carbonfiber tank $700

[tribalairbrushing]

what a hooptie

[Mois52]

Gotta say, that's the most po-dunk Subway I've ever seen.

[JUKIO01]

damn, i think they were using sarcasm. jeez mr. perfection

[yrralebutuoy]

Not to be party-pooper, but remember Ford Explorers rolling over, the A pillar on driver's side collapse and kill the driver? Car won't run 70mph, but you'll be sharing road with faster cars and weighing heavier. Test with a couple of crash-test dummies from front/rear impact to side impacts. Great for DIYers and small towns, but mass producing for general public makes this a law suit magnet. Manufacturers spend on R&D to get design right. Will GEICO insure? Amish would love this design!

[ripperarn]

Why not put a solar panel on the back as well and mabye thin film solar panels could work like stan ovshinsky.

[keithm940]

Let's hope Big Oil's friends in Washington don't quash this invention like they did the electric car. But I wouldn't bet on it considering the MSM isn't touching the story.

[jqbtube]

Yes, "30" in "30 miles" is an adjective, moron, just like "many miles" or "several miles". Talk about clueless, I'm surprised they let you pass 3rd grade, where you should have learned such things. Only a retard could think that <noun><noun> is a proper form in English; the first noun plays an adjectival role, even if it is normally a noun, as "boy toy" or "brain fart".

[Kokyunage]

Any place we can see the specs? Like type, capacity, and efficiency of solar cells, batteries, etc?

[newfarmerfilms]

Art lists the specs in an ealier comment, but here they are again:

Weight: 350 pounds

Cost: about $2000 to build. It has an Advanced DC 2-5 HP motor, Curtis controller and three 12 Volt Lead acid deep cycle batteries.

[jqbtube]

"80" is either a noun (as in "the integer after 79 is 80) or an adjective (e.g., "80 miles"), but "infinity" is only a noun -- so "infinity miles" is in fact grammatically incorrect. "aleph-0 mpg" would be grammatically correct, but would be lost on the illiterate ignoramuses that make up the vast majority of folks here.

[ssfrench]

libbybapa, what the hell are you talking about?! Infinity means (according to the dictionary)

a: the quality of being infinite b: unlimited extent of time, space, or quantity : boundlessness.

So, to be 'GRAMATICALLY CORRECT', you are an idiot!

[jeffgrave]

Stop showing how ignorant you are.

[jqbtube]

Apparently that's all you know how to say, showing how ignorant *you* are. "infinity" is a noun, so "infinity miles" is wrong.

[johan28]

Going to save the link to the site ;)

Very nice! Ever since I heard my physics teacher say more cars should use solar i've always wondered about its potential. My own opinion has been it has a limited range, but without more people utilizing this possibility how do we really know? Thanks guys for making this possiblity real and giving others the option to make it real!

[newfarmerfilms]

The cost of the car and other information can be found in one of Art's comments below. There's also a link to his website where do-it-yourself kits can be ordered.

[SModikoane]

You should make them and sell them!!!

[grgrgrgff]

this nigga left new hampshire because it was way too hectic?

[jeffgrave]

Stop showing how ignorant you are.

[newfarmerfilms]

Grammar be damned. "Infinity" sounds better.

[biffula]

Well, we know these folks may be geniuses at science, but not grammatical whizzes. It should be INFINITE mpg.

[AmazingJoeJoe]

Most Awesome!

[DennyO1]

I admire Art. And, the car does have its charm, in a "fliverish" way.

[newfarmerfilms]

See "SUNNev.com" for build-your-own solar car kits, which Art says will be available in the spring.

[snailout]

hi i got an elec motor (inhub) kit for my bike , im wondering wat type of solar panel could i put on the luggage rack of my bike to supplement the batteries? do u have any suggestions, im want to have the bike able to perform extreme distances.

[joebonk]

i love your idea alot

[terrorist420x]

How much does it weigh? How much did it cost to build? What kind of motor, controller, and batteries?

An updated version should be built. Make it longer and lower, say a 45" height and make reducing aerodynamic drag of key concern. On those same components, if aerodynamics are properly addressed, that could be a 55-60 mph car. Range of course would increase a lot on the same battery pack.

[mgcarpet]

Hi;

It weigs 350 pounds, cost about $2000 to build. It has an Advanced DC 2-5 HP motor, Curtis controller and three 12 Volt Lead acid deep cycle batteries. I am now building a lower profile version with less rolling resistance.

Art

[terrorist420x]

That's light! Even at 35 mph, rolling losses are not as large as aero losses for a box like that. I don't know what your own design goals are, but if I were building such a vehicle, I'd do an airfoil shape like those solar cars raced by universities to cut drag, and use AGM battery pack ~500 pounds in a vehicle that weighed ~800 pounds. For some performance, use an ADC 8" motor and Zilla 1k controller. You'd have a 100+ mile range, 0-60 mph in 5 second, solar powered terror. Would cost ~$5,000.

[terrorist420x]

Although I doubt you're looking to spend that much, or willing to risk breaking things from having too much torque on tap!

Going with an airfoil using the same motor and battery pack in this 35 mph car would still allow 60-ish mph.

Aerodynamic drag force varies as a square of velocity, while rolling losses are relatively constant(at least in your application).

[terrorist420x]

I'm quite impressed with the performance of this car, given it was a bunch of high school kids. They're doing what Detroit refuses to do. But so many simple tweaks could greatly enhance performance. I imagine difficulty would arise with making it sufficiently safe for highway speeds and getting it registered.

You should enter your next car into a Tour De Sol rally if applicable.