Or it could be that when we started engines on phrogs we used the rotor brake and it was on until both motors were started so the plane wouldn't do that.
Its normal for these planes to do that it has nothing to do with how light it is. Now do these turds have a rotor brake?
Looks like they hit some ground resonance during the start up...as a former phrog mech and crewchief, I couldn't help it but notice the crewchief standing within the rotor diameter during the start up, a big no-no! If one of the blade flap retainers fails...goodbye head. Cool vid though! SF
@bushman14 No, that's not how it's done...well, maybe in the civi world...dude. USMC phrogs are finely tuned machines. Ground resonance could mean the rotor head and/or blade are out of balance...even a worn out pitch link bearing could cause it. I've heard all the maintenance horror stories that come out of columbia helicopters, so I'm not surprised to see this.
@marine6172 phrogs are heavy turds, dude. these 107's are stripped down and light, light, light. So light that the initial imbalance caused by the blades being swept forward at rest tosses the front end around until the blades lead/lag to their dynamic operating position. The RPM's are way too low at startup to induce ground resonance. And a final note, all the Columbia maintenance horror stories you hear are caused by Marines who think they know how it all. Bar none.
@bushman14 I see I touched a nerve. Phrogs are heavier, yes, but they also have a pair of 1700 turbo shaft balls and upgraded drive and rotor systems that can out carry and out run many a medium lift chopper, 107's included. The horror stories were told by former Marine mechanics who had transitioned and were able to observe the 107 maintainers and their practices. It was so bad, it even made some of them re-enlist. Now that's bad! We may not share views, but I'm glad we share a passion. Peace.
It's actually older than the CH47 by a year or two. This is the civilian model of the CH-46 Sea Knight. The U.S. Navy flew the Sea Knight until 2004, and the U.S. Marines are still flying them.
thats not ground resonance, its because at a certain point there is not much weight over the nose and then as the blades rotate there comes a bit more weight at the front causeing the nose to bounce up and down kinda like pushing car suspension down. ground resonance is a whole different ball game.
The bounce at start-up is caused by the rotor blades not being in there respective balanced locations until they get up to speed and balance themselves out. Its worse when its cold as the fluid in the blade dampners is more viscous and it takes longer but its normal for this type of machine.
nice vid that bounce is very comman it happenes all the time, im a captain on a 107 my self for helifor looks like a columbia machine there we run the exact same ones
The lag dampers allow the blades to shift forwards while the blades are sitting static. This means that the blades will throw off the balance of the rotor heat until they spin up to a speed high enough for centrifugal force to pull them back into a balanced configuration.
why didn't you record the takeoff?
LTF85199 3 months ago
why he is going up and down
MrDegansta 4 months ago
이거 엔진이 디젤인가?
dbrqhdakdhkd 4 months ago
Or it could be that when we started engines on phrogs we used the rotor brake and it was on until both motors were started so the plane wouldn't do that.
Its normal for these planes to do that it has nothing to do with how light it is. Now do these turds have a rotor brake?
v22crewchief 5 months ago
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bigchad007 5 months ago
is this in bc? these thing fly all over the place over here
jarrod989 6 months ago
This vid sucks motherfucking fat donkey dick.
HelloHansSolo 7 months ago
Year unbalanced air craft you have there.
44971719785648751978 9 months ago
Gotta wonder where it's going. Taking tourists sightseeing? Aerial lumberjacking? Recon? Piracy? It can do a whole lot of things xD
peepeevagi 11 months ago
So why is it bobbing up and down? I grew up practically on the Navy flight line and never once saw a 46 do that that I can recall. :-S
EMT308 11 months ago
@EMT308
I only dose that if it's unbalanced.
44971719785648751978 9 months ago
Hello is why the heli at the front always up and down?
MrVeichtel95 11 months ago
Looks like they hit some ground resonance during the start up...as a former phrog mech and crewchief, I couldn't help it but notice the crewchief standing within the rotor diameter during the start up, a big no-no! If one of the blade flap retainers fails...goodbye head. Cool vid though! SF
marine6172 11 months ago
Weak gear dampers,its shaking up itself...thats not so good.
aircraftchecker1 1 year ago
Is that a little ground resonance on the front rotor on start up?
BCAD01 1 year ago
Civil Phrog
geoago 1 year ago
Damn. Someone needs to service the nose strut bad and dude needs to stand OUTSIDE of the rotor arc...
walkerpl2006 1 year ago
@walkerpl2006 You don't know shit, dude. That's how it's done, and the nose strut is just fine.
bushman14 1 year ago
@bushman14 No, that's not how it's done...well, maybe in the civi world...dude. USMC phrogs are finely tuned machines. Ground resonance could mean the rotor head and/or blade are out of balance...even a worn out pitch link bearing could cause it. I've heard all the maintenance horror stories that come out of columbia helicopters, so I'm not surprised to see this.
marine6172 11 months ago
@marine6172 phrogs are heavy turds, dude. these 107's are stripped down and light, light, light. So light that the initial imbalance caused by the blades being swept forward at rest tosses the front end around until the blades lead/lag to their dynamic operating position. The RPM's are way too low at startup to induce ground resonance. And a final note, all the Columbia maintenance horror stories you hear are caused by Marines who think they know how it all. Bar none.
bushman14 11 months ago
@bushman14 I see I touched a nerve. Phrogs are heavier, yes, but they also have a pair of 1700 turbo shaft balls and upgraded drive and rotor systems that can out carry and out run many a medium lift chopper, 107's included. The horror stories were told by former Marine mechanics who had transitioned and were able to observe the 107 maintainers and their practices. It was so bad, it even made some of them re-enlist. Now that's bad! We may not share views, but I'm glad we share a passion. Peace.
marine6172 11 months ago
That's a happy looking chopper.
KingOfSchmucks 1 year ago
só pra testa xD
vespapreta 1 year ago
did they change their name to helifor recently? i mean, as in a week recently?
FPVsean 1 year ago
big pimp'n with them hydrolics.
graffie 1 year ago
why is it jumping at low rpm?
jetranger7803 1 year ago
If the chopper is rockin', don't bother knockin'!
taofledermaus 2 years ago 25
quite smaller than ch-47?
markvinas31 2 years ago
I always find it amazing how they sync the rotors to turn without hitting.
FSimviator 2 years ago
isnt one higher than the other?
DKF22 1 year ago
I guess you're right. I couldn't tell in this video, but they are.
FSimviator 1 year ago
Lowrider
1SFODdelta 2 years ago
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1SFODdelta 2 years ago
Make sure you pee BEFORE the rotors ramp up.
guitartec 2 years ago
Wow!! Dancing beast....
AAzmanacob 2 years ago
Interesting. Rotors produce a harmonic at start up.
pgiustino 2 years ago 2
boy do they ever. I didnt know boeing made a counter rotating tamdom shaft chopper. Its like the small version of a chinook ch47
Marshall7302 2 years ago
It's actually older than the CH47 by a year or two. This is the civilian model of the CH-46 Sea Knight. The U.S. Navy flew the Sea Knight until 2004, and the U.S. Marines are still flying them.
decibully1984 2 years ago
Its not a Chinook. Its a Ch-46 Sea Knight variation
nicocrux 2 years ago
the pilot must be sitting there thinking "omg this is so embarresing" my aircraft is like a horney old dog!!
northernal321 2 years ago 4
HAHAHA!! quality comment
mark675 2 years ago
if the chopper be a rockn,,,,
jjjazzycraig 2 years ago
There was still some ground resonance at the beginning...
crazyrum 2 years ago
thats not ground resonance, its because at a certain point there is not much weight over the nose and then as the blades rotate there comes a bit more weight at the front causeing the nose to bounce up and down kinda like pushing car suspension down. ground resonance is a whole different ball game.
franzjosefnz 2 years ago
From the outside, it looks like someone's screwing in the cockpit, LOL ))))
MrZlodeus 2 years ago 22
hehe, ye
SindreAHN 2 years ago
if the sea night be a rock'n...dont come a knock'n
jjjazzycraig 1 year ago
what a flying turd
Point432 2 years ago
this is real right???
Nelson142356 2 years ago
what ?..do you think the pilot and the man disconnecting the power are animated action figures ?
quakermaas 2 years ago 2
sigh somebody said they were fake
Nelson142356 2 years ago
OK. fair enough.
Well I cant spot anything fake about it and if it is fake it is very well done.
All so, I cant see the point why anybody would go to such lengths to make a very good fake video of a helicopter start up ?
quakermaas 2 years ago
the shocks are really affected!
twcpilot 2 years ago 5
nice chopper! I wonder how much this model runs for
TyphoonBling 3 years ago
look like that bloke is pissing up the side of it!LOL
mrtreebus 3 years ago 3
It's called a Stubwing check. You know, looking for leaks. I always seemed to find one myself.
DrunkEskimo 2 years ago
Thanks Drew, I was just pissing around
;-) lol
mrtreebus 2 years ago
Don't come knockin' if the 107's rockin!
royaltonrotors08 3 years ago 5
The bounce at start-up is caused by the rotor blades not being in there respective balanced locations until they get up to speed and balance themselves out. Its worse when its cold as the fluid in the blade dampners is more viscous and it takes longer but its normal for this type of machine.
themyth66 3 years ago
So the blades are filled with viscous fluid for blade balancing?
christychackojohn 3 years ago
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DrunkEskimo 2 years ago
I read that the bounce is common, but what causes it?
lst1195 3 years ago
nice vid that bounce is very comman it happenes all the time, im a captain on a 107 my self for helifor looks like a columbia machine there we run the exact same ones
Tyler4240 3 years ago
Pimp my Choppa; BV-107 with bouncy air suspension.
It should be the next big thing on MTV!
onnovanbraam 3 years ago 2
The rotor brake cause more wear and tear on the drivetrain and of course rotor brake wear.
osht1 3 years ago
it does look like the rotorbrake was left on or something at the start
itsumonihon 3 years ago
The rotor brake was not left on at start. The sound you hear at the beginning is the sound of the GPU.
osht1 3 years ago
interesting bounce in the beginning, harmonic vib?
planedude91 3 years ago
probably more likely just the weight of the blades bouncing the helicopter as they start up slowly
geetarwanabe 3 years ago
The lag dampers allow the blades to shift forwards while the blades are sitting static. This means that the blades will throw off the balance of the rotor heat until they spin up to a speed high enough for centrifugal force to pull them back into a balanced configuration.
osht1 3 years ago
Hi there, nice video! The first sound was GPU working right? Or was that the APU?!
Best regards.
Focha 3 years ago
GPU, big ol' gas motor
plani107 3 years ago
@Focha GPU !
JULIOBLITZ 6 months ago
Was that blade tape I was hearing???
bushman14 3 years ago
fucking pilots!!! xD
lol
sdrfgvrfgvsfravgdsvS 3 years ago
Is that The Pearl in Coco-traz Yog1?
codeman107 3 years ago
sure is....
plani107 3 years ago
Would that be Coco-traz and the Black Pearl Yogi?
codeman107 3 years ago
Wild video..Thanx..Jerrylee///
hueyleader 3 years ago