im a huge sc2 player, and i always thought the sc1 one scene and how people refered too their players as being able to destroy the current sc2 champs as just trash talk. well MC, MMA, and MVP, i really really hope that flash and jaedong dont come to sc2, cause....jesus, macro/micro, no one comes close to these guys
I’ve been following the pro-scene since late ‘07/early ’08 I think. This was the best finals I’ve seen. If this proves to be the last MSL Finals ever then I think it was a fitting tribute to the greatness of Starcraft and the two greatest players ever to grace the scene.
JD's flaw in the last game was taking his 3rd and 4th before thinking about going hive. he didn't expect the early-mid push to be that concentrated and he overly relied on his mutas. flash smartly kept his marines in the middle threatening an attack rather than actually attacking a base where he would have been surrounded. terrans usually either keep heading for the base or go back and camp their own.
Hey I don't play neither sc1 or sc2 but I watch alot of replays. But seriously why haven't this game got more hype sc1 it feels it's alot more skill in bw.
JD got owned this game, because he was expecting some kind of 2 base mech. Mech is extremely immobile, so JD thought that with Muta/Hydra, he could keep back the mechw hile he got up his 4 bases to max drones. Unfortunately, as Moletrap said, Flash knew JD would plan for the obvious, and switched to a M/M push, surprising JD. That's why all his lurkers were so late, and his bases undefended with sunkens. Had JD known flash was going for M/M, he woulda gotten lurkers earlier and won.
thank you so much for commentating this series. it was because of you that i learned about korean progamers and i thoroughly enjoyed watching this game :D
The last game was a legit win by flash. Games 1 and 2 though (as well as 4) were just a roll of the dice, completely build order based. The map pool produced excellent tvt games, that were very clearly based on skill but in this match up it was almost reduced to zvz level of build order importance.
I knew once those dumb scourge didn't do their job at 09:20, that it was over, no hope at all.
Sigh.... JD.
GG. Great commentary as always moletrap! Yeah, I wasted a few hours on it, but man, was it worth it. Your excitement is my Flash adrenaline patch. Thank you SO HARD.
whats better to get for a timing push with marines? i always got +1 armor instead of atk. isnt it better for sunkens to have to 3 hit u instead of just 1 dmg more per atk?
@hotstuffwatcher if u have medics it is always 3 hits or more so u dont need armor. u take +1 attack vs mutas and also ling sis nice coz u stim and then have the highest attack rate besides crackling so your dps is the best and gets even better.
It's funny how hard zerg players have to try to win, while terran can just pump a couple units and push. Zergs have to expand a ton, tech to hive and get gas heavy units all the while trying to their defend bases.
@NeRo9k not realy besides the variations in very early game, terran D vs mutas, then zerg D vs tank mm vessle push. zerg need 3 bases vs terran 2, was stupid this game how zerg got 4 and no hive u cant beat mm tank vessle without swarm.
308 views pffft. SC1 is WAYYYYY better to watch than SC2. The Moletrap/Diggity combo is WAYYYY better than the Husky/HD combo also. HD becomes a little insincere after a while but Moletrap makes for exciting commentary.
"It doesn't work against Flash" - hahaha, damn well said. This has to be the BEST fucking series that I've seen throughout the years, gosh... And Moletrap, you're THE MOST AWESOME COMMENTATOR EWURR. If you're pumped it makes the game twice as exciting !
@crazeh sigh totally agree. JD is just too stubborn. Love him but he has to accept terran late game (esp mech) is just way too strong. You have to hit em early and often to take it out like with effort. JD deserved to lose for not learning that lesson. Why are you forcing me not to like you JD why??
Jaedong should have 4 pooled. 100% should have. Infact I expected him to do that and win the MSL (which he would have if he did) and couldn't believe he again invited Flash to 14cc in the final game.
I love JD to death but I have to admit Flash is the better player. Still, I think JD deserved to win this MSL just cos he worked his ass off. Flash was pretty much stomping to get to the finals. Anyway GG, hope we see em again in the OSL finals! ;-)
im a huge sc2 player, and i always thought the sc1 one scene and how people refered too their players as being able to destroy the current sc2 champs as just trash talk. well MC, MMA, and MVP, i really really hope that flash and jaedong dont come to sc2, cause....jesus, macro/micro, no one comes close to these guys
bdawkins32 1 month ago
still <3 u jaedong
badnewZZZZgosu 1 month ago
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leapingfury 4 months ago
epic epic win :)
StamZO 5 months ago
Flash is gambling because he's a hero. How do you think he became so good, by believing he's the best! :D
leapingfury 1 year ago
They should've just used the same balance and units for SC2 that were in SC1 with updated graphics and new campaign.
TJayH09 1 year ago
i actually found the commentary a bit annoying lol didnt say not good its a good commentary regardless :)
AntaresBFJX 1 year ago
looks like hes the legend killer of the legend killer
Ram3nf0x668 1 year ago
NOOOOOOO HE LOST T.T
60SecTimeAttack 1 year ago
GO JAEDONG!!!!!! ZERGS ARE THE BEST FU** TERRAN
60SecTimeAttack 1 year ago
Never bet against flash.. even tho i was rooting for jaedong
Locbui1989 1 year ago
nothing works against flash.. flash makes progamers look like D- players
Deprecate1 1 year ago
holy crap I almost thought he'd screw it up in the end but he somehow made it 0o
RapedByTheLight 1 year ago
I’ve been following the pro-scene since late ‘07/early ’08 I think. This was the best finals I’ve seen. If this proves to be the last MSL Finals ever then I think it was a fitting tribute to the greatness of Starcraft and the two greatest players ever to grace the scene.
Thanks moletrap for the passionate commentary!
Slaphappy1975 1 year ago 8
thank you so very much moletrap
omgLordLituslol 1 year ago 2
Jeadong is the new flash ? He keeps on over expanding without having the units to keep him alive
razno212 1 year ago 2
flash is op
OmnipotentO 1 year ago
10:15
SikLyric 1 year ago
Excellent series, definitely the 2 most brilliant gamers on the planet right now, fantastic cast too, thank you !! :)
Ardbug 1 year ago
moletrap > the world
harrythecrumb 1 year ago
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Sovieto 1 year ago
123 likes and 1dislike
timzoneking 1 year ago
It doesn't work against flash.
DaWanderer 1 year ago
Very nice commentary! Very exciting last game I thought at several points "That's it".
Winner well deserved!
derfahnder88 1 year ago
IT DOESN'T WORK AGAINST FLASH.
ruhtraeel 1 year ago
spoiler:
JD's flaw in the last game was taking his 3rd and 4th before thinking about going hive. he didn't expect the early-mid push to be that concentrated and he overly relied on his mutas. flash smartly kept his marines in the middle threatening an attack rather than actually attacking a base where he would have been surrounded. terrans usually either keep heading for the base or go back and camp their own.
fwing11 1 year ago 4
@fwing11 yet... if he did that against normal people like us... we'd definitely lose.. lol
Th3Sh1n1gam1 1 year ago
lol
wasdwasdedsf 1 year ago
Killing game.
naturalkinds 1 year ago
i almost fell out of my chair... i think i got up on my feet a couple of times. thanks for the fantastic commentary, you're the best !
jdean9 1 year ago
fantastic commentary for an epic match series!!
simonthewarrior 1 year ago
Hey I don't play neither sc1 or sc2 but I watch alot of replays. But seriously why haven't this game got more hype sc1 it feels it's alot more skill in bw.
Elvathar 1 year ago
@Elvathar it's because it's too hard of a game to just have noobs come in and become a decent level...
Th3Sh1n1gam1 1 year ago
it doesnt work against flash! truer words have never been spoken.
completelyhopeless1 1 year ago
jaedong jaedong!!, when you gonna learn?...why no 9pool?...4bases no god
sapitoraider 1 year ago
booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
wanted my fav to win =(
Sonix21 1 year ago
thank you very much mole,
rubenedu 1 year ago
@3:14 you said that flash has 3 barracks... he has 4, the three you saw + the one blocking the chokepoint
ThrustVectoring 1 year ago
JD got owned this game, because he was expecting some kind of 2 base mech. Mech is extremely immobile, so JD thought that with Muta/Hydra, he could keep back the mechw hile he got up his 4 bases to max drones. Unfortunately, as Moletrap said, Flash knew JD would plan for the obvious, and switched to a M/M push, surprising JD. That's why all his lurkers were so late, and his bases undefended with sunkens. Had JD known flash was going for M/M, he woulda gotten lurkers earlier and won.
fangedcow12345 1 year ago
Great commentary!!! I like the way you did it in one go and split it into 5 parts too :)
kippherr 1 year ago 3
wow.... losing that way because you were being greedy. that must've been annoying.
MoonyD911 1 year ago
You made a drone?
Doesn't work against Flash.
Danceofmasks 1 year ago 5
here is our Viewer Question from Germany:
Moltrap how many times did you have an orgasm during this MSL Finals?
BTW: Great commentary :)
nivek26091980 1 year ago
thank you so much for commentating this series. it was because of you that i learned about korean progamers and i thoroughly enjoyed watching this game :D
supersaiyoon 1 year ago
LMAO @ JAEDONG
Go home and slap your mother for me you little bitch boy!
twocheddar 1 year ago 5
great games and amazing commentary moletrap!!
Skr0s 1 year ago
Since when has HD and Husky been as informative and exciting as moletrap and Diggity?
p111SC 1 year ago 2
flash deserved that one.. gg
good to see flash with emotions for once :).
0kthenn 1 year ago
great series
tnx for quality commentary
KaLNFoRc3R 1 year ago
thank you moletrap for this fast and great commentary
daynvattah 1 year ago
The last game was a legit win by flash. Games 1 and 2 though (as well as 4) were just a roll of the dice, completely build order based. The map pool produced excellent tvt games, that were very clearly based on skill but in this match up it was almost reduced to zvz level of build order importance.
drewbsn87 1 year ago
Awesome job Moletrap, watching this marathon was a bunch of fun :)
LifestreamQc 1 year ago
thanks, moldtrap! awsome marathon!!!
DDeyanski 1 year ago
lol no cc gg
AndyoGuan 1 year ago
awwwwww man.
I knew once those dumb scourge didn't do their job at 09:20, that it was over, no hope at all.
Sigh.... JD.
GG. Great commentary as always moletrap! Yeah, I wasted a few hours on it, but man, was it worth it. Your excitement is my Flash adrenaline patch. Thank you SO HARD.
Now to drink a beer and wind down!
haguremetaru 1 year ago
thx for the gamecasts mole.
dkjh902 1 year ago
Thanks, Moletrap. :D
Bikkit 1 year ago
omggg so epic god i was waiting all season for this game haha wow so epic nice commentary moletrap, we love you!! <3
Xanczor 1 year ago
Thank you for the commentary of this season moletrap.
Smaschge 1 year ago
at least there wasn't a power outage to stop flash this time :)
myskillzrhi 1 year ago 3
whats better to get for a timing push with marines? i always got +1 armor instead of atk. isnt it better for sunkens to have to 3 hit u instead of just 1 dmg more per atk?
hotstuffwatcher 1 year ago
@hotstuffwatcher if u have medics it is always 3 hits or more so u dont need armor. u take +1 attack vs mutas and also ling sis nice coz u stim and then have the highest attack rate besides crackling so your dps is the best and gets even better.
Smaschge 1 year ago
@hotstuffwatcher 1 dmg is 20% more damage per marine per shot
mognite 1 year ago
@mognite marines do 6 dmg initially, so thats 16.6% damage increase, not 20%. lings are 20% incr :)
UpTballA 1 year ago 2
It's funny how hard zerg players have to try to win, while terran can just pump a couple units and push. Zergs have to expand a ton, tech to hive and get gas heavy units all the while trying to their defend bases.
NeRo9k 1 year ago
@NeRo9k not realy besides the variations in very early game, terran D vs mutas, then zerg D vs tank mm vessle push. zerg need 3 bases vs terran 2, was stupid this game how zerg got 4 and no hive u cant beat mm tank vessle without swarm.
daltondoyou4 1 year ago
I'm still wtf over game 4 lol. I think Flash threw it. :P
deanykongy 1 year ago
Ah man, I literally feel relaxed after watching this. I had an adrenaline rush watching the end of this.
davidr64yt 1 year ago
absolutely awesome commentary. thanks MT!
sklyrovka 1 year ago
308 views pffft. SC1 is WAYYYYY better to watch than SC2. The Moletrap/Diggity combo is WAYYYY better than the Husky/HD combo also. HD becomes a little insincere after a while but Moletrap makes for exciting commentary.
Great series right there. Loved it
Pigroota 1 year ago 57
@Pigroota youtube doesnt update views very fast... this will grow
adamisuber 1 year ago
@Pigroota sc2 is not fun to watch at all :/ I hate the 3dness.. makes it hard to observe what is going on
imGenji 1 year ago
@Pigroota
I think Husky is just as sincere and shows genuine excitement about Starcraft in general. Sad thing he switched over to SC2, though.
To sum this thing here up:
Great series, great commentator, great final.
nf1n1ty666 1 year ago
Jaedong :C
ReganHuang 1 year ago
"It doesn't work against Flash" - hahaha, damn well said. This has to be the BEST fucking series that I've seen throughout the years, gosh... And Moletrap, you're THE MOST AWESOME COMMENTATOR EWURR. If you're pumped it makes the game twice as exciting !
TRAWTF 1 year ago
Intense games go FLASH!!!
SC:BW Rules
BuBaClD 1 year ago
Intense games
BuBaClD 1 year ago
Flash is imbalanced
Retgery 1 year ago
@Retgery Man, please dont write bs
BuBaClD 1 year ago
Thanks for the commentary MT :)))
GTass455in 1 year ago
soooo epic!!!! spectacular moletrap!!!!!
Dcebes 1 year ago
Your best commentary to date! Awesome!
boredtodeathwth 1 year ago 3
@boredtodeathwth +1
MrBouzeux 1 year ago
Thanks moletrap. That was a great MSL final.
JivaKool 1 year ago
the GG remind me of SNSD- Gee =D
RAE4eva666 1 year ago
ÀYYAYAYAYA WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
seraro 1 year ago
OP TERRAN woops wrong game
patatepowa 1 year ago 5
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crazeh 1 year ago 18
@crazeh sigh totally agree. JD is just too stubborn. Love him but he has to accept terran late game (esp mech) is just way too strong. You have to hit em early and often to take it out like with effort. JD deserved to lose for not learning that lesson. Why are you forcing me not to like you JD why??
userasdf 1 year ago
lol what
wasdwasdedsf 1 year ago
@crazeh I kinda disagree, i felt both of them played well but flash used the mind games correctly like you said for the win
Effort played damn well too but he read flash like a textbook.
dk9999 1 year ago
what mind games
wasdwasdedsf 1 year ago
haha yes, hes stubborn because he doesent take the free win he has because of knowing opponent will 14cc...
wasdwasdedsf 1 year ago
It doesn't work against Flash...
Zaknafeinpz 1 year ago 3
Jaedong should have 4 pooled. 100% should have. Infact I expected him to do that and win the MSL (which he would have if he did) and couldn't believe he again invited Flash to 14cc in the final game.
crazeh 1 year ago
LOL WHAT
wasdwasdedsf 1 year ago
awesome commentating man!
cujo111 1 year ago
jaedong: idc. i have a golden mouse, bitch.
lowfatfishsticks 1 year ago
whats with the 4hatch build? lost all the matches were he went 4 hatch.
Cimbom1990GS 1 year ago
Hahaha, awesome commentating man!
KristianJS 1 year ago
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Timic83amv 1 year ago
Terran OP :P
sufilix 1 year ago
Greatest commentating I've heard.
wow great game!!!!!!!!!!!
TheOKAY 1 year ago
Flash as got ballz of steel
Mendelevium146 1 year ago
YESSSSSSSSS!!!
sakelee 1 year ago
7 rax SC2 style :)
SuperiorBeen 1 year ago
Extra bases = more gas, minerals not saturated doesn't matter.
Carutsu 1 year ago
thanks mtrap best msl ever
really like the anti spoiler style uploader much more fun
slowfuse 1 year ago
now win both MSL and OSL
manudead454 1 year ago
Naw, Flash's motto: You aim for the King, you better not miss!
Strand0410 1 year ago
Bravo dude. Bravo.
Strand0410 1 year ago
nooooooooooooooooooo!!! :(
ButCritically 1 year ago
I love JD to death but I have to admit Flash is the better player. Still, I think JD deserved to win this MSL just cos he worked his ass off. Flash was pretty much stomping to get to the finals. Anyway GG, hope we see em again in the OSL finals! ;-)
bwones 1 year ago
Even though my man didn't win I "enjoyed my head off" too.
GG both of these guys. Hopefully it's another rematch at the MSL
danmanjones 1 year ago
oh no.... its a quick game
AzureSky317 1 year ago
I am pumping my fist in the air with FLASH
IGFBP5 1 year ago
I think jaedong lost vs light on Odd eye going for an extra hatchery as well
92Alex92 1 year ago
EPIC SERIES!!! Love both players, but I honestly think winner is slightly better.
And are we now going to consider him.....5th bonjwa?
PSdualwielder 1 year ago
is it wrong that i love flash so much?
EeXen 1 year ago
Noooooooooooooooooooooooo, jaeeeeeeeeeeeeedonggggggggggg
SkySparkZ 1 year ago
Epic series and great casting moletrap xD made me lol at so many random moments
fangedcow12345 1 year ago
GG, great end to the series.
sansviedotcom 1 year ago