Which kind of Christian are you? Vote No on Question One.

[aussiecath]

Part 8

So now the guilty by association Maloney is supposedly following in the evil footsteps by abusing his position to undermine civil rights. In reality he is a Catholic Bishop preaching Christian orthodoxy and supporting actions consistent with it. That is his job.

I’m a Catholic who objects to you stepping on my fellow Catholics with slanderous misrepresentations for you to rhetorically advance your cause.

[joethemoproductions]

@aussiecath

And I'm a secular humanist who resents having some bigot christian use his bullshit religion to oppose civil rights for gays.

The history of the catholic church is one of persecuting, torturing, and killing Jews, of persecuting, torturing and killing gays, of persecuting, torturing and killing heretics, and of raping children.

So, fuck you and fuck your church you dumb asshole.

[aussiecath]

Part 1

“In 1933 this Christian best known as Pope Pius XII negotiated a treaty with the Nazis guaranteeing that the Vatican would not oppose any assault on Jews. The Nazis stripped Jews, Gypsies and Gays of their civil rights and then they killed them. This Christian Bishop Maloney opposes gay civil rights. He uses his position to urge Christians to support and give money to a campaign that would eliminate gay marriage.”

So Pius XII is sinister & anti-semitic?Bishop Maloney is also guilty.

[35g700]

Question One passed.

[Manuel2029]

Haha lil bitch yor pathetic unlike yew i have a life i dnt always log in on yew tube to act like a fag and yew talk too much abt cucumber yew want one haha fag!!!!! Anyway talk yewr shit dats jst an act of desperation haha lil fag well idgf cuz ur no one to talk shit ur proably d wrost of d wrost sooo peace and fuk yew hahah!!!!

[Manuel2029]

@joethemoproduction

Fuken faggot lover hahahh puto hahahah

[Manuel2029]

@joethemoproduction

Eyyy dawg u lil bitch stfu cuz i did gibe a fuk u faggot lover who proably got molested by ur two dad so jst kik bak and anal ur self hahahah bitch

[Manuel2029]

@joethemoproductions

Fuken faggot wit a ugly face and bitch ass fuu who dnt has da balls to say it to ma face fukin fag

[joethemoproductions]

@Manuel2029

(Cont.)

I suggest ignoring your myths, find a woman, get a cucumber, and let her work you over. It would probably approve many aspects of your life, including that hostile (and seemingly rather intellectually compromised) demeanor of yours.

Kisses,

Joe

[joethemoproductions]

@Manuel2029

HI Manual,

I suspect that you really think a lot about things going up your butt. Because you're christian mythology doesn't approve of that, you're very angry. I call this cucumber anxiety. Cucumber anxiety causes much gay hostility because most gay men have no issues with expressing sexuality in non-christian terms. Thus, you project your anger at gays.

[joethemoproductions]

@Manuel2029

The voice of christianity is harsh, unpleasant, and badly articulated, just like christians themselves.

Manuel you have said more about what your religion is about than any essay by Dawkins, Russel, or Voltaire. Thanks for that.

Hugs,

Joe

[Manuel2029]

@joethemoproductions

Look i dnt no u and i dnt wana no u....idk who or wuht u want all i no is dat if i ever see u i willl fuk u up cuz u wood nr

Ever never ever never say all of dis jiberish to my face u wood be trembling seeing as u bein a homo sexusl fahgot who evedently like penises up ur ass so fuk off cuz u aint gana say to ma face hahaha pussy

[joethemoproductions]

@BJJistheway

If you are going to use the bible to justify demonizing gay people, then you need some evidence to support the existence of a god. To my knowledge there is none.

If you can provide some, let me know. However, to nip typical christian idiocy in the bud, remember the following:

The bible is not evidence of a god. It was written between the 8th cent bce and the 2nd cent ce; it is bad history and worse morality.

Life is evidence of natural selection, not of a god.

Kisses,

Joe

[dkan3]

Here is the balance: Christianity sees everyone as equal in sacredness. Yes gay and lesbians are sacred people and creatures of God. The actions however in the sight of God from the Christian perspective is the same as His view of me when I was sinning with premarital relations... a sin. My sin is just as bad as homosexual sin, but God forgives when you turn away from it and to him. He does away with guilt and shame and brings freedom. Will it be a fight with temptations? Yes of course.

[joethemoproductions]

@dkan3

When you can provide evidence of your god's existence, I'll take your argument seriously.

[dkan3]

@joethemoproductions when you can provide evidence for all the missing transitional fossils from the gradualistic theory of evolution then I will take your respons seriously :)

[joethemoproductions]

@dkan3

Hey asshole, here are the links to everything you need to know about transitional fossils and the science of evolution. The evidence is vast. Go to PBS and watch the following shows, I'll send you links to them.

1. What Darwin never knew:

2. Becoming Human, part one

3. Judgement Day: intelligent Design on Trial

The evidence is overwhelming. But, there is absolutely no evidence for the existence of a god.

[TheVodkaHaze]

I actually couldn't give a fuck about gay marriage, by which I mean, I neither support nor oppose gay marriage.

[linkinsf]

"Mo, love the video. Love the choice of music from U2 to Holtz.

[SpikeDawgProductions]

I'm an athiest, but I am strongly in support of gay marriage.

[35g70]

November 3rd shall go down in history as the day when the people of the great state of Maine said no to minority groups and protected what they believed in.

Yes on one: 53%

No on one: 47%

[joethemoproductions]

For now, this is true. However, this will change. Watch and see.

Kisses,

Joe

[joethemoproductions]

35g70 is 17; he will live to see gay marriage, the repeal of DOMA, and the repeal of DADT.

Time is on my side, not yours.

Kisses,

Joe

[southernred8]

It's called: the unaffected majority get to vote down civil rights for a minority,

If Civil rights were left to a majority vote, slavery would be reinstituted.

[idaman12345]

more like no to democracy and yes to communism

[vender1980]

Martin Luther King Jr, would have voted Yes on 1 , you twit !

[joethemoproductions]

This is highly unlikely. Mr King was good friends with Bayard Rustin, and thought highly of him. Mr Rustin was out.

Furthermore, his wife, Coretta Scott King, strongly endorsed gay marriage.

[cri4154]

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[cri4154]

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[joethemoproductions]

Well, for those who don't think that those who oppose gay rights, especially fundamentalists, are a bunch of vicious animals, explain this.

I think this guy probably had a large fruit or vegetable in his rectum when he wrote this. You would have thought it would have put him in a better mood.

[cri4154]

is pseacial mesage too nat turner not for all black

[joethemoproductions]

I didn't think their kind read books, much less a history book about African Americans.

Since you read, I suggest reading about Frederick Douglas. His insistence that everyone "agitate, agitate, agitate" against unfairness has stuck with me.

Reading about a man who came out of slavery and became a leader in the abolitionist movement would do this guy well.

[mansonmurders]

Holy Shit (sorry, pardon the pun)! That is GREAT!!! Send this to Jesse Connolly (he's the campaign manager for the "No on One" campaign)!! Great, and I mean GREAT work!!!

[35g70]

You do realize that Hitler's right hand man was gay, then he found out and got rid of him.

[joethemoproductions]

Yes, I realize Hitler's right hand man was gay. So was Hoover. So was Roy Cohn. I never said all gay men or women were saints. When Hitler's right hand man was working for Hitler, he wasn't representing a gay org.

PIUS XII REPRESENTED ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL AND INFLUENTIAL ORGANIZATIONS IN THE WORLD:

THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.

I hope you see my point.

Hugs,

Joe

[joethemoproductions]

This is one of the most offensive comments I've seen, but, again, I think it useful to see the souls of those who oppose gay rights.

The anger in his message suggests that he is in the closet with a very strong attraction to black men. I suggest that he apologize to every black person he meets, find a hot black guy, bend over, and end his life in the closet.

[mansonmurders]

Couldn't have said it better myself!

[millerbayne]

I'm from California. I fought Prop 8. Let me tell you something. It doesn't matter how much money goes into an election, it makes no difference how many hopeful dreams you have. You will not sway a persons vote unless you educate them, and spend the time and energy. Don't assume you will win. Let your voice be heard. Whether your Homosexual, or Heterosexual, stand up and let everyone know you are voting NO ON 1. What happened in CA, can't happen again. The west coast is cheering for you.

[harris3810]

I just wanted to say that less than a year ago I was NOT a supporter of gay marriage. While I was not active in voting against it or protesting it, I did speak out against same-sex marriage within my small circle of influence.

Since that time I have realized my error. This is mainly due to getting out of my element and discovering that gays are, in fact, people, too. Keep up your work, we can change.

[futuramark]

i am a christian in favour of freedom of speech ..muslims will kill you if you criticize them...this goes against my believes so now im anti muslim yes im a xenophobic anti muslim now

[SouthSideRyder1990]

support gay mariage??wut the fuck u in luv with an black nigga?u are an shame 4 your parents and rasa(who ever done this vid)1*

[skeeleraar]

How can anyone expect a biggoted little excuse of brain like yours to even begin to understand the concept of freedom and equality FOR ALL.

[joethemoproductions]

I was tempted to remove this comment because it is extremely offensive. But, I think it is useful for others to see the kind of christian who opposes gay marriage and civil rights.

Loser doesn't begin to describe this guy or girl.

[MMA]

Your spelling, punctuation and grammar are horrible, not to mention your racist, homophobic talk.

You need to educate yourself, for your own sake. If you don't move beyond this ignorance, people will take advantage of you for the rest of your life.

[jjred86]

This video boils my blood. It's not fair - and as much as you are entitled to your freedom of speech, it's a disgusting and false juxtaposition. I feel your opinion is extremely closed-minded, and if you really took the time to rethink this complex issue - rather than comparing the other side to Hitler, you would realize Voting Yes is the right thing to do. Stop oversimplifying this to a basic equality issue! Until you discover the gay gene - do you RESEARCH!

[joethemoproductions]

Sexual orientation is governed by a number of genetic interactions. There is plenty of material and evidence on the subject. Also, given the track record of the catholic church, my points were very tame.

How ironic that in a country where civil liberties are to be separate from religious influence you consider my video unfair. But, then, irony is not something your kind understand well.

[jjred86]

My kind? You sick bastard! First of all - I've done my research and care about this issue deeply - having friends with same sex attraction. There is NO evidence that homosexuality is genetic. There have been studies that like to make grand assumptions - but no clear FACTS. So STOP LYING. Being a former Catholic - I will admit the church has a bad track record -but that doesn't justify your points. It's your kind that is so close minded and oversimplfying this as a clear cut equality issue.

[joethemoproductions]

The hypothalamus in gay men differs from the straight hypothalamus, LeVay, 1991.

Gay men respond differently to fluoxetine, Kinnunen LH, Moltz H, Metz J, Cooper M, 2004.

There are many more examples, and the literature has overwhelming evidence that sexual orientation is genetic.

What more do you need. These are clear facts.

My point is that many christians have made some very bad decisions and other christians have used their religion to encourage civil rights. I told no lies.

[Xeletoph]

If you think there's something 'wrong' with homosexuality, and act on that, and seek to prevent others from living their way of life - which does not harm you in ANY fashion, and why it bothers you so much is beyond me - then you are a bigot. You are a plain and simple bigot, and thus equal to Hitler and his Nazis. Get as pissed as you like, but its the truth. There's nothing wrong with being gay dude, and the modern world knows this. It's time you got in sync with reality.

[harris3810]

Whether you like it or not this is an equality issue. I don't know if people are born gay, however most of them say they are, and they are the ones who would know, so I tend to believe them over those who would not know.

I also know what it is like being adamantly opposed to gay marriage, so I feel qualified to write on that topic. This issue has nothing to do with God, religion, sanctity of marriage, society breaking down, etc.

It is driven by the fear of that which we don't understand.

[rextrek]

AGAIN - GO FUCK YOURSELF.

[mara434]

I believe when the Holy Spirt speaks of homosexuality as a sin, that just what it is. When the two angels in the form of men went into Sodom, the sexual perversion was wihout remedy. Christ loves the homosexual, though the hibitual sin prevents fellowship. Should a Christan accept homosexuality, No. Can they love the homosexual yes

[shoulderkolibri]

What else do you "believe"the Holy Spirit say? It never spoke in the first place did it? If you are referring to your conscience, then it is unreliable, for it is plagued by bias. And if you're saying you hear voices, then you are certifiably insane

Also Sodom was not burned solely for the "evil" of homosexuality, it was burned for it's xenophobia and hate for outsiders, and how they would make the poor and disadvantaged suffer, and have rampant sex and rape with one another and strangers.

[joethemoproductions]

This is exactly the kind of Orwellian comments I expect from fundamentalists. Love the sinner hate the sin is a ridiculous comment. Love requires something your kind of christian know little about. It is merely a ruse to introduce bigotry in the name of your religion.

[mara434]

You would call Christ a bigot. I follow Christ, Homosexuality is a sin according to both the OT, and NT case closed. If the Holy Spirit never took residence in your being I would expect you to hate my standing in this world. I'm not going to turn back because man hates God, I'm following the Lord Jesus Christ into everlasting life

[skeeleraar]

If you are a homosexual (the nature that ur God supposedly gave you), you deserve everlasting torture.

If you rape your daughter (your personal evil choice), you go to heaven.

The Bible: total insanity!

[mara434]

Well we kind of got out of context, but the simple teaching of the Word is that man is a sinner, Christ died for the sin of man. A rejection of Christ, Will result in that man being rejected by God.

[skeeleraar]

The sermon on the mount is where a Christians supposedly should get their lessons from. Remeber those great words on judgement?

And remember those words on ostentation?

You born again Christians are the definition of hypocrit and have learned nothing of the word of your own lord! Instead you only pay attention to the supernatural bullshit

[mara434]

Im sorry you don't know your Bible. The sermon on the mount pertains to life in the Kingdom. 1000 year reign of Christ from Jerusalem.

[skeeleraar]

Mainly because i dont have a Bible. I burned a long time ago. Would you rather go live in a country like Saudi Arabia, where gays are stoned to death all in the name of your God?

And you just proved my point, you couldn't care less about all the lessons Christ tried to give mankind. If it weren't for all his miracles, you'd probably label him a sinner.

[narxly]

Most people are simply opposed to embracing what is just not natural. It's not faith-based. Why marry your own gender???  BTW - this video is poor at best - what a singular choice of examples and partial presentation of facts! Get to know some real Christians before you try to make a presentation.

[rainbowheartgirl]

Narx, you're free to believe whatever you want, but think about something for a minute. You weren't born thinking that gay people are bad. You weren't born thinking that gay partnerships are unnatural or wrong. That was something that was *taught* to you, by your culture, your parents, your school, etc. Children aren't born anti-gay. In fact, children who grow up in families that are accepting of gay people consequently do not hate/fear/dislike them.

[muellerican]

What's the problem with choice? As a Jew I wouldn't want anyone telling me that I deserve less human rights for choosing to practice Judaism. Why marry your own gender? Why marry your own religion? or Why marry someone poorer than yourself? Come on Narx, for the sake of the mind that G-d gave you. Is it natural or a choice? Is that really the question? or do you just want to make sure your Ben and Jerry's "Hubbie-Hubbie" ice-cream IS organic, then I'd empathize with you.

[DrRevolutions]

I honestly dont care about Christianity's viewpoint. It should be left out of the law. And without religion, Gay marriage and civil rights would be prominent today.

And for all you bible thumpers out there....

It says in Leviticus to kill gays...

and disobedient kids...

and people or swore at their parents....

Im getting the feeling its not god saying it but some malicious slave driving bastard who hates gays (but probably is one, that happens to be human)

[bartisahunk]

I honestly think it is crappy for grown adults to "tell" other mature/grown adults that they can't get married.

What you do in your home is between You and God, I have no business getting in the middle of it. He will be the Judge of all and it is up to Him to decide who does or doesn't go to hell/heaven.

[DrRevolutions]

Your points and evidence is very interesting

And thank you for being mature and grown up about this.

btw im atheist :P So yea... if you re right im screwed but what the hell apparently this guys all merciful .....

[bartisahunk]

I get a lot of 'flak' from Christians when I say this:

But, I totally believe that God is so Just and Merciful that He looks at a person's heart and their motives for all thoughts, words, and deeds. Those are the things every person is judged on, so He in His eternal wisdom can allow people in heaven regardless of what that person 'claims' to be in this life.

If this were not so, how can He "honestly" judge someone who lived in an area of the world that has never heard of or read the Bible.

[DrRevolutions]

and you shouldn't get anything for saying that ;)

But according to everything I've heard, read, the bible, christians, clergy, etc. God judges you for if you believe in him or not... That seems a little petty

I mean, a person making life hell for thousands of people all his life can be brought into heaven of he is a born again christian on his deathbed... But someone genuinely good his entire life but has a little skepticism CAN'T? Thats BS

[bartisahunk]

What those most Christians don't realize or accept, is that the Bibles they read today are biased and were printed with a lot of misinterpretations. If we go back to the original languages we find that there are things in our modern Bibles that the original writer never meant or intended.

I view the judgments that God places on people as Just, in other words He looks deep into a person -- their entire life -- and then makes his decision. People will do or say anything when faced with death.

[DrRevolutions]

I can completely agree on that

[bartisahunk]

To all who claim to know the Bible and its views on "homosexuality". I must say --

1. the word did NOT exist until 1892

2. it did NOT appear in a Bible until 1946

3. It can NOT be found in the original Hebrew or Greek Biblical manuscripts.

4. the ENTIRE CHAPTER of Leviticus 18 is speaking specifically about RITUAL PRACTICES of those who WORSHIPED MOLECH.

[joethemoproductions]

thanks.  good to know.

[MewHamHead]

Molech is only mentioned once in Lev: 18 and it is the sacrificing children. I presume it was a worship practiced by the follers of the god molech. The next verse is clear: their god does not permit a man to sleep with another man as he would with women.

[bartisahunk]

You obviously do not know how to read things within context.

VERSE 1-5: DO NOT IMITATE THE WAYS OF the people in Egypt or Canaan (they were MOLECH WORSHIPERS)

1. Sexual rituals with family: VERSES 6-19

2. Sexual rituals with neighbors: VERSE 20

3. Sacrificing children VERSE 21

4. Same-sex rituals VERSE 22

5 Sexual rituals with animals VERSE 23

This continues into verses 24-30: With the same basic warning as in verses 1-5

[AmazingTheGaytheist]

Im certain the Egyptians did not follow Molech and scripture does not say they followed molech but nevertheless this is a side issue. Surely the obvious main subject is the instruction from god NOT TO DO THESE THINGS.LOL, What is prevalent throughout the rest of Christian scripture is that god created them male and female and not male and male/ fmal fmale. His command was to go forth and multiply.

Nice try though. Oh and thx for blocking me.

[bartisahunk]

The point I am making is that This specific chapter speaking about forbidden ritualistic sexual acts -- ways of worshiping idols.

I am focusing on this because there are too many people using Leviticus 18:22 to say God does not condone homosexuality. When in fact the verse is speaking about same-sex idol worship.

[bartisahunk]

Secondly, we must remember that the word "homosexual" did not exist in ancient Hebrew or Greek. It in fact came into existence as a word in 1892 and was not placed in to a printed Bible until 1946.

If we as Christians are going to teach others about the word of God, we must learn our scriptures from the original texts and not look to any biased Bibles as "the" Word of God.

[AmazingTheGaytheist]

I fully understood your point. I was showing that your point is clearly based on the wrong premise. Leviticus:18 only mentions Child sacrifice when referring too Molech worship. And besides, who would seriously say that child sacrifice is ok outside Molech worship. The bible certainly does not.

[bartisahunk]

When it comes to the Bible we have to remember that it was centuries later that chapters and verse divisions were placed in the Book of Leviticus. Because this is the way that the ancient Israelite people read the scriptures, it must be read by us in the same manner.

Leviticus 18 especially in verse 21 the Hebrew word the original writer uses "zera`" means BOTH "offspring and semen". That means In ancient Hebrew times it actually says "do not let your children/semen be sacrificed to Molech"

[bartisahunk]

IF you want to continue reading this as bits and pieces of a non-continuous message answer me this question:

Why doesn't it say: "women are not to have sex with women"?

[Psalm23YHVH]

You cannot choose to be a particular race but people choose to be gays this is because the devil has gone inside them

[fantasy0coach]

lmao....and you choose to be a goose

[MewHamHead]

Psalm23YHVH So how would you explain hermaphrodites? They are BORN with both female and male sexual characteristics. Although social conditions do apply I also think people are born homosexual. That doesnt conflict with the Bible, because isn't it Christian doctrine that states man is born in a fallen state?

Hence the old favourite- "have you ever told a lie"- then what does that make you?? etc, lol.

[MewHamHead]

Hmmm, Just a thought but wouldn't Christians have to negate the Bible teachings to do so? And if they do negate the passages in the Bible that condemn homosexuality would they be admitting that the Bible is false?

[joethemoproductions]

Christians negate the bible all of the time and manage to live with it. Deuteronomy 22:13-21: A marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin. If the wife is not a virgin, she shall be executed. Further, the bible says that a woman should leave her house while menstruating.

I know of no christians who advocate killing non-virgin wives and I know of none that leave the house while menstruating.

Ignoring these instructions have not made the bible false to christians.

[MewHamHead]

Unlike some laziies, I have just checked your bible passage. It seems that the validly of the marriage is not theissue in question. It is rather the punishment for lack of chastity.

As for Christians negating bible passages- I suppose they do, but do Christians negate the TEACHINGS of the Bible? It is clear, that the Bible is against Homosexuality but a little grey on menstrual women and virgin brides. Remember we are talking about Christians not Judaism.

[joethemoproductions]

Christians use the old testament all of the time. And, they use it selectively. They disregard what inconveniences them and keep what confirms their own prejudices. This is called selective literalism.

Since christians should pay attention to the message of Jesus, I don't know of any passage where Jesus discusses gay people. Paul does, but he does not quote Jesus. If I am incorrect on this, let me know, and please give a citation.

[MewHamHead]

If they disregarded their incontinences they would just fit in and have no problem. They must upset the apple cart in some issues. Otherwise, why the heated debate?

I think Paul is given the privilege as spokesperson for the Christian faith. But nonetheless, Jesus did mention when the Pharisees asked Him about marriage and divorce, He replied that 'from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female' (Mark 10:6). He did not just forgot about Gays here.

[joethemoproductions]

The comment of Jesus is oblique at best. It certainly cannot be used to say that Jesus was gay hostile.

We're getting off the point here. My point in the video is that some well known christians support gay marriage. Check in with the Quakers. However, other well known christians have used the bible to justify some horrific things. Consider the murder of Dr Tiller.

[Psalm23YHVH]

iF YOU ARE A GAY THEN YOU ARE A SEED OFF THE DEVIL BUT YOU CAN BECOME NEW IF YOU ASK GOD TO FORGIVE YOU AND FIND A WOMAN TO MARRY AND ENJOY WITH HER

[southernred8]

Religion is poison.

I came out gay 7 years after leaving Xtianity, and 2 years after the wife divorced me.

Psalm23YHVH, That is very poor advice, to tell a gay man to go waste some woman's life by getting married to her.

Stupid a--.

[SFHarry]

Great video Joethe'mo.

As for you Kenballer00, I am a gay man and it doesn't matter whether I have sex with men or women I will always be a gay man. It is an immutable characteristic.

[neil73]

As soon as people realise this, that being Gay is how a person is, just as a person born with no legs (crude example, i know), is something the person has no control over. It is NOT a choice. It saddens me that in some countries, gay folk are put to death, and it sickens me that we in the 'enlightened' west, allow preachers to spew forth hate-speech that condemns homosexuality as something disgusting and sinful. Preachers like this should be at the least mocked and at most banned.

[DonQuixotedeKaw]

Theocrats, such as the Dominionists of which you speak, are the greatest focal point of probabilities, for our extinction. The world has other theocratic threats, yes. Until we clean our own house of this human disease, will any possible leadership from the USA have a sufficiently clear perception of the issue, to help reduce the threat elsewhere? I doubt it. The RICO Act is applicable to this cartel of hate cults infesting government, churches, school & corporate boardrooms, let's use it.

[kenballer00]

being gay may or may not be a choice but choosing to live the gay lifestyle is a choice and that's why we are here. the government doesn't ask you whether you are gay or straight. sexual orientation has nothing to do with the issue.you can't compare an immutable characteristic (race, gender, etc) to somebody's behavior. A lifestyle is not a minority. Jews, blacks, and women were discriminated against for who they were not for who they were having sex with.

[ksm1031]

Dear Kenballer. What you're saying might be true if Gay people were only "Gay" in the bedroom. At one time Africans were questioned rather their race qualified also. Have you ever heard of "Gay Culture?" Have you studied Gay history etc? You have a right to your opinions-I am personally unoffended by your comment. I think we should all perhaps evolve beyond such primitive concepts as Race. We are all more than mere clasifications. The children of tomorrow are mixed.