What? I didn't quite catch it. What are the plenty of the videos and pictures of the concenctration camps and the dead bodies and stuff everything? This video says that there is nothing but the eyewitness' testimonies. Someone please enlighten me of what I've missed
@NellaN1337 yes, you can. I dont belive everything the govnt says, but theres written records, pictures, and SURVIVORS. Might as well say there was no pearl harbor as well.
Watch the video and argue against it if you can, but you can't. You're one of those morons that haven't had a single independent thought in your entire life, you accept everything your Jewish masters tells you as fact.
In all this game, the devil is losing and at the end will be accused of everything because GOD don’t want any rivals. Conclusion: live at the full in the freedom of GOD (praying in a right form, following the INSTRUCTIONS in the Bible - keeping the 10 commandments - including keeping the Saturday as the 7th day etc.) instead of in the incapacity and limited power of devil because he is just a temporary puppet. Jesus Christ is our savior and our hope!
Hair, shoes, What about the pile of human bodies? The pictures of the people being shot over ditches already filled up with dead bodies? The multitude of dead humans lined up in rows on the ground? If these people who didn't come back weren't murdered by the Nazis, what happened to them? Did they just disappear?
So are you just telling me they lied about the Holocaust? That there was no Terror and Hatred?
Because If so, why did I just so happen to see a Footage of a dead corpse being dragged out of the ground and being buried properly. Also why did I SEE A bulldozer pushing a group no not GROUP a pile of dead corpses in a ditch?!
Wow... you mean all those people just magically disappeared? And have you ever heard of the velodrome d'hiver? or maybe they got amnesia and never went home? Is that an effect of zyklon b? Oh and all the eyewitnesses were lying, and moreover, told the same story.... hmmm...
@eazydee415 before you bust out the "crackers" statement (i take you are of african decent) google orutube the name african professor tony martin. the jew has a lot to answer for and the african slave trade is one of those. hopeful one day we can all understand the amount of playing one side against the other the jews do to all peoples.
yeah the gas chamber was actually a building that concealed a tunnel below ground. the tunnel of course goes to isreal to the right and the usa to the left, hence easily explaining all those millions of missing jews etc.
why do we not know that the jews were living a comfortable live during their holocaust while the palestines have to suffer severly during their holocaust
The Holocaust has always been a matter of faith. Those promoting it never felt compelled to provide evidence, and pretended offense when asked for any.
Evidence of the extermination of the Jews on the level of that provided for Katyn was never offered. It was always based on the political capital of the victors, and now that is running out, police enforcement.
Just like organized religions! The holocaust,is a matter of faith!
Abraham Foxman, ADL on the Frontline, January 1994 Issue: "The Holocaust is something different. It is a singular event. It is not simply one example of genocide but a near successful attempt on the life of God's chosen children and thus, on God Himself. It is an event that is the antithesis of Creation as recorded in the Bible; and like its direct opposite, which is relived weekly with the Sabbath and yearly with Torah, it must be remembered from generation to generation."
It is a historical fact that not one of the 54 fraudulently alleged “huge mass graves” of Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka has ever been proven to contain so much as - 1 / 1,000 of 1 % - of the alleged buried bodies, and not so much as one single person has ever been proven to have died by means of poison gas in a homicidal gas chamber at Auschwitz, Belzec, Chelmno, Majdanek, Sobibor or Treblinka.
"Not so much as one single person has ever been proven to have died by means of poison gas in a homicidal gas chamber at Auschwitz, Belzec, Chelmno, Majdanek, Sobibor or Treblinka".
Strange how you keep leaving Natzweiler-Struthof out of that list, isn't it Red? Is it just bad memory, or is this an example of lying by omission? You wouldn't do a thing like that - surely?
Neither Dr. Larson nor any other forensic specialist has ever been cited by any Holocaust historian to substantiate a single case of death by poison gas, whether Zyklon-B or any other variety.
Part of that is a hoax." And what part was the hoax? Dr. Larson, who told his biographer that to his knowledge he "was the only forensic pathologist on duty in the entire European Theater," informed "Wichita Eagle" reporter Jan Floerchinger that there "never was a case of poison gas uncovered."
After his grim work at Dachau, he was questioned for three days by U.S. Army prosecutors. Dr. Larson's findings? According to an interview he gave to an American journalist in 1980, "What we've heard is that six million Jews were exterminated.
When American and British forces overran western and central Germany in the spring of 1945, they were followed by troops charged with discovering and securing any evidence of German war crimes. Among them was Dr. Charles Larson, one of America's leading forensic pathologists, who was assigned to the Judge Advocate General's Department.Dr. Larson performed autopsies at Dachau and some twenty other German camps, examining on some days more than 100 corpses.
AND WE CANT USE THEE EXCUSE THAT THE NAZIS DESTROYED THE EVIDENCE BECAUSE THEY INERCEPTED TRANSMISSIONS? HOW COULD THEY'VE DONE THIS, THEY DIDNT EVEN HAVE RECORDERS BACK THEN SOO THAT WAS A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT... AND WHY DISPUTE THE FACT THAT THE NAZIS DESTROYED EVIDENCE? WHY WOULDNT THEY'VE DESTROYED EVIDENCE THAT THEY MURDERED PEOPLE?
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I REALLY WANTED TO WATCH THIS BUT I CAN'T LISTEN TO YOUR ANNOYING VOICE FOR A HOUR!!!!! HORRIBLE HORRIBLE VOICE BUD! I DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU AND I ALREADY HATE YOU!
people are trained in their beliefs from a young age and very few possess the ability to be objective. The Holocaust myth is a good example of Soviet "re-education" it's been proven beyond doubt that 6 million is at best exaggerated (the Soviet official line is 4-5 million) yet many believe unquestioningly that 6 million died, they were turned into soap and lampshades etc when all of these things have been proven lies and hysteria by serious and politically correct historians
@jake20589 It's starvation. These camps were not only outside of Germany itself but some were located within newly-collapsing German occupancies, and toward the end of the war allied bombing of convoys and routes made getting supplies to the camps impossible. This is also the same reason diseases such as Typhus began to suddenly overrun the camps.
He's not even Jewish. He claims to have "always been an atheist." To wear a yamulke if you are not Jewish is disrespectful. "all there is is the eyewitness testimonies"
seriously? ALL there is? that is precious first hand evidence that is CONSISTENT from survivor to survivor that is worth more than any of his useless speculation.
The reason only 5% of Zyklon B was used on humans is because it only takes 300 ppm to kill humans in minutes and 7000-15000 to kill lice in several hours.
@sparklingcherries "it only takes 300 ppm to kill humans in minutes and 7000-15000 to kill lice in several hours."
Two different measurement standards are being used, with the pretense there is only one measurement standard.
The measurement standard used for the HCN killing insects is the measurement for killing every single insect. In other words, if there are a thousand insects on a piece of cloth or room, the measurement is for killing every single one of those thousand insects.
@sparklingcherries "ALL there is? that is precious first hand evidence that is CONSISTENT from survivor to survivor that is worth more than any of his useless speculation."
Jean-Claude Pressac (Expert for the Jewish Beate Klarsfeld Foundation and author of several Auschwitz-Reports for Jewish bodies) in an interview for the book Histoire du négationnisme en France, Éditions du Seuil, Paris 2000, p. 613 ff)
@sparklingcherries Paul Rassinier=With regard to the gas chambers, the almost endless procession of false witnesses and of falsified documents to which I have drawn the reader " s attention during this long study, proves, nevertheless, one thing: never at any moment did the responsible authorities of the Third Reich intend to order - or in fact order " the extermination of the Jews in this or any other manner.
I don't understand how one can discredit hundreds of people who have seen these atrocities occur, including members of the sonderkommando, who stood very close to the gas chambers and heard all the screaming. Isn't it strange that all of their "stories" are very consistent and add up? And why would former SS members admit to this if it wasn't true? They have come forward from living stable comfortable lives and admitted that gassings happened because they've seen it.
@sparklingcherries Concerning the labour camps, over the period Spring 1942-February " 43, the following information was obtained: " Auschwitz, the largest of the camps , mentioned illness as the main cause of death, but included references to shootings and hangings. There were no references in the decrypts to gassings. " That seems clear enough - though no-one took any notice of it at Nuremberg. Nicholas Kollerstrom, PhD
He's not even Jewish. He claims to have "always been an atheist." To wear a yamulke if you are not Jewish is disrespectful. "all there is is the eyewitness testimonies"
seriously? ALL there is? that is precious first hand evidence that is CONSISTENT from survivor to survivor that is worth more than any of his useless speculation.
@sparklingcherries With the measurement for humans, on the other hand, what's used is the measurement that can kill a single human being. This measurement is extremely low, because a small percentage of humans have a very low tolerance. In other words, if a thousand people were in a room, that concentration could kill one person out of that thousand.
@sparklingcherries "Bungling, exaggerations, omissions and lies are the signpost of most reports of that époque ... It is inevitable that new documents will come to light which will shatter more and more the official Au-schwitz story. The present, seemingly triumphant portrayal of the universe of concentration camps (Auschwitz), is destined to be doomed. What can be saved of it? Very little!"
Great new vid on Youtube titled "The Last Days of the Big Lie" youtube.com/watch?v=-48HQpgQRz0
Safer to be in German work camp than German city as cities were being carpet bombed mercilessly.
Dr. David Duke's latest vid- “The Real Rogue Nuclear State” great also: youtube.com/watch?v=KLSlmLx4Fls
FDR vs Hitler. Both took power/office 1933 their countries unemployed 25-30%. 6-8 years later Germany rate 2% USA still 20%. How? Hitler threw off International Bankers they HATE him 4 it still.
There is eyewitness, video, and photographic evidence of the German Army burning and destroying a lot of the evidence of their war crimes. They knew they only had days before they would have been overcome by allied troops so they were ordered to destroy everything.
@RememberToday4ever No Order. No Plan .No Budget .No Weapon (No expert report stating: 'This was a homicidal gas chamber'). No Body (No autopsy report stating: 'This is or was the body of a person killed by poison gas.')
Sei talmente patetico, e criminalmente ridicolo, che puoi essere subumanamente classificato... come una larva molliccia e cerebropenica che rincorre inutilmente una sua impossibile metamorfosi!
No Prussian Blue staining on the walls means the media and government have been lying to us, day in and day out, for over 60 years.
It hurts knowing we murdered all those Germans based on a pack of lies. The German guards at Dachau were machine gunned by the Americans in cold blood , all because we had our heads filled with nonsense about gas chambers, that never even existed.
@bananito4 Just because one is a Holocaust Revisionist does NOT mean they have to be Anti-Semitic, unless you're a troll (which I'd assume is true, since you're posting this around the same time a thread on /b/ got posted concerning this), Jews are fine people. The main thing they do wrong today is try and profit from a "tragedy" that might not have happened and the disgusting thought process of Zionism, by which they oppress and slaughter Palestinians. But largely I love Judaism.
you stupid dumb son of a non-jewish-and-probably-a-nigger bitch,
you are not going to tell me how is to live with antisemitism caused by the actions of some jewish crooks that are using our intellectual stock for their own boring and destructive purposes.
@pk1225 Don't forget GenEisenhowers DEATH CAMPS that killed 1,700,000 German POW's AFTER THE WAR WAS OVER. He starved them-where there was plenty of food,gave them no water-when 1 of the camps was next to a river & refused to shelter them-they were all outdoors with no shelter. PURE SCUM.How come they don't tell US about that SATAN? Great book-OTHER LOSES-JAMES BACQUE tells the facts.
U should expand on the harm the jews caused the german people.They set up embargoes correct?
And who ELSE supports Bacque's bullshit, mate? He was caught putting words into the mouths of witnesses, overstated the death rate by a factor of ten, and the European Advisory Commission, Department of the Army's Center of Military History, the German Office of Military History in Freiburg and the United States Army Theater Provost Marshal figures (which Bacque misquoted) all tell a completely different story. The book is crap from start to finish.
@MSM4U2POM And who ELSE supports Bacque's bullshit, mate? HOW ABOUT AMERICAN SOLDIERS GUARDING THE CAMPS MATE! "overstated the death rate by a factor of ten" HORSESHIT. Bacque didn't "make up anything"genius. He got his numbers from French,English,German&Russian RECORDS.
"We had our heads filled with nonsense about gas chambers, that never even existed".
ROFL!
Another quote, also from David Cole:-
"There is a very high probability, based on my own strict standard of documentary evidence, that the Struthof gas chamber was indeed used to kill Jews".
And before you cry foul, this is from LONG BEFORE he recanted. 1995, in fact.
Wrong again, denier boy. It's part of a 16 page document written by Cole long before he recanted, in which he exposed Robert ('No Holes - No Holocaust') Faurisson as a liar. It's all there in the Shofar FTP Archives, and he (Cole) has never denied he wrote it. Not then. Not now.
@pk1225 All fucking LIES. Google EISENHOWER'S DEATH CAMPS- After WW2 WAS OVER -Eisenhower killed 1.7 MILLION GERMAN POW'S by STARVATION & KEEPING THEM FROM WATER. 1 Camp was right next to the rhine river & prisoners dying of thirst who ran to take a drink were machine gunned & killed.Patton let all his POW's GO after the war was over.Eisenhower HATED THE GERMANS&KILLED THEM whenever he could.He was just as bad as HITLER.May he burn in hell as i write this.They killed old men-kids&evensome women.
Bacque misquoted and ignored official medical figures, citing a 30% death rate, when in reality it was just 3%; he did not follow up sources to interpret what "other losses" actually referred to - basically release without formal discharge. German historians do not support his claims, and we are still waiting for evidence - from anywhere - of his 800,000 to 1 million dead. Bacque's "brilliant exposé" is a brilliant exposé......of James Bacque!
YOU EVEN ADMIT IT? About time u told the truth. BTW England is going down even faster than the USA. They lost so many conquered lands they wouldn't have anything soon. lol hahaha
"James Bacque might be willing to relegate the world food shortage to the category of myth. Few others will do so. Perhaps he can try the interviewing techniques that he employed in Other Losses — namely putting words in the mouths of selective eyewitnesses."
- James Tent, "Food Shortages in Germany and Europe 1945-1948"
"Most scholarly reviewers of Bacque's book have pointed out that Bacque fails to establish the proper historical context...worse, the historical records that Bacque did use are amateurishly misrepresented and often misleading or wrong. Once Bacque's endnotes are checked, frequent misreadings of documents are easily discernible."
- Gunter Bischoff, "Eisenhower and the German POWs"
Günter Bischoff has written (in German) a number of papers(a)(b) that strongly support Spanuth’s theory, which places Atlantis in the North Sea with the royal capital on a Helgoland larger than what we have today.
MAYBE HE WAS TOO BUSY LOOKING FOR FUCKING ATLANTIS WHEN HE TRIED RESEARCHING.COME ON-THIS ASSHOLE IS GOING TO REVIEW A BOOK ON ANYTHING? HAHAHHAHAHA
@MSM4U2POM Günter Bischoff has written (in German) a number of papers(a)(b) that strongly support Spanuth’s theory, which places Atlantis in the North Sea with the royal capital on a Helgoland larger than what we have today. He believes that its megalithic influence extended from Scandinavia and the British Isles on to North West France and southern Spain and the western Mediterranean. YOU MEAN THIS GUNTER? TALKING ABOUT WHERE FUCKING ATLANTIS WAS?LOL HAHAHA Sure genius i'll take him serious.
@MSM4U2POM STEVEN AMBROSE... DUMMY.Beginning late in his life and continuing after his death, however, many reports and evidence have continued to surface documenting long time patterns of plagiarism, falsification, and inaccuracies in many of his published writings and other work
BETTER DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE U SEND ME SHIT MORON.
"When scholars do the necessary research, they will find Mr. Bacque's work to be worse than worthless. It is seriously - nay, spectacularly - flawed in its most fundamental aspects... Mr. Bacque is wrong on every major charge and nearly all his minor ones".
Stephen Ambrose, 'Ike and the Disappearing Atrocities', New York Times Book Review, February 24, 1991
@MSM4U2POM He was a long time professor of history at the University of New Orleans and the author of many best selling volumes of American popular history. Beginning late in his life and continuing after his death, however, many reports and evidence have continued to surface documenting long time patterns of plagiarism, falsification, and inaccuracies in many of his published writings and other work.Ambrose said he was not "out there stealing other people's writings." U FUCKING MORON.LOL HAHAHA
Goodness me, you are an angry little man, aren't you? Those verdicts on record, they're from multiple sources, and your opinion does not change or threaten them. I'm afraid you're well and truly stuffed on this one, mate. I cannot imagine any of those historians gives a flying one what you think, and neither do I.
@MSM4U2POM Stephen Edward Ambrose (January 10, 1936 – October 13, 2002) was an American historian and biographer.Beginning late in his life and continuing after his death, however, many reports and evidence have continued to surface documenting long time patterns of plagiarism, falsification, and inaccuracies in many of his published writings and other work. In response to one of the early reports, Ambrose said he was not "out there stealing other people's writings."
"That's the SAME Stephen E.Ambrose...who was accused of LYING-PLAGIARISM-FALSIFICATION-&INACCURACIES".
Plagiarism only casts doubt on the source of a statement, mate, not its accuracy. These allegations fail to prove that he lied or falsified anything about Bacque either.
The subsequent book which he co-authored, "Facts Against Falsehood" - a direct rebuttal of 'Other Losses' - has been endorsed by heavyweights such as John Keegan. Bacque's work is shit. Get over it.
@MSM4U2POM lol u fucking loser..get over your own useless sources asswipe. You know fuck all about everything asswipe.Ever read the book? FUCK NO. lol LIAR.
@MSM4U2POM Plagiarism only casts doubt on the source of a statement, mate, not its accuracy. These allegations fail to prove that he lied or falsified anything about Bacque either.
IT DIDN'T SAY JUST PLAGIARISM MORON-TRY READING THE ENTIRE SENTENCE ASSHOLE.
PLAGIARISM,FALSIFICATION, INACCURACIES...ETC.
YOU LOSE LOSER. LOL HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA your work is shit-get over it loser.
It's called the Slippery Slope Argument mate, and it's one of the most basic logical fallacies: A is true, B is true, and C is true; ergo D,E,F must also be true. Does not compute.
Therefore, these allegations [of plagiarism, falsification, inaccuracies] fail to prove that he lied or falsified anything about Bacque.
If you're happy to advertise your 'special needs' debating techniques, then carry on. It just makes my life easier.
@MSM4U2POM And you sending me bullshit OPINIONS by some asshole that's been charged with plagiarism,falsification & inaccuracies is just good research? LOL Sure i'd believe his OPINION. That's the sensible thing to do.hahahahaha fucking moron. You don't debate jerkoff-you're incapable of it.
Slippery slopes my ass. If someone is a LIAR..they are a LIAR. In other words dummy,nothing they say can be trusted.
@MSM4U2POM In debate or rhetoric, a slippery slope (also known as thin edge of the wedge, or the camel's nose) is a classic form of argument, arguably an informal fallacy. A slippery slope argument states that a relatively small first step leads to a chain of related events culminating in some significant effect, much like an object given a small push over the edge of a slope sliding all the way to the bottom.
YOU DIDN'T EVEN GET THAT RIGHT ASSHOLE.LOL IT DOES NOT SAY IN ANY RESPECT THAT ABC..
There's just three of the crushing indictments of the standard of Bacque's work, and there's plenty more. The overall picture they paint is one of dishonesty, amateurism and incompetence. Remember, this is just the tip of the iceberg, and you if you choose to believe the claims of a man who has been refuted in such severe terms, then it is your problem, not mine. Simply put, 'Other Losses' is crap. You believe what you like.
"Furthermore, there are periods in the records when "other losses" is not in the record. It is for this period that Bacque uses the medical record and the famous missing zero typo. A total of 700,000 should be given as the number of prisoners in a report issued by the ETO surgeon, but the typist mistakingly omitted a zero, making the total 70,000".
@MSM4U2POM Stephen Edward Ambrose (January 10, 1936 – October 13, 2002) was an American historian and biographer of U.S. Presidents Dwight D. Eisenhower and Richard Nixon. He was a long time professor of history at the University of New Orleans and the author of many best selling volumes of American popular history. Beginning late in his life and continuing after his death, however, many reports and evidence have continued to surface documenting long time patterns of plagiarism, fal
"...Although a glance at the rest of the chart is sufficient to realize the typo, Bacque nevertheless uses that incorrect figure and the number of deaths reported (which was totalled correctly) to give 30%, when the actual number was about 3.56%".
@MSM4U2POM STEVEN AMBROSE... DUMMY.Beginning late in his life and continuing after his death, however, many reports and evidence have continued to surface documenting long time patterns of plagiarism, falsification, and inaccuracies in many of his published writings and other work
BETTER DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE U SEND ME SHIT MORON
NOT VERY GOOD AT THIS ARE YOU MORON? LOL
U send me quotes from a KNOWN PLAGARIST...u fucking asshole. lol AND AN ATLANTIS LOCATOR. HAHAHAHA fuck off asswipe.
"STEVEN AMBROSE... DUMMY... BETTER DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE U SEND ME SHIT MORON".
Priceless!
"Stephen E. Ambrose" - Wikipedia; "Historian Stephen Ambrose dies" - CNN Entertainment, 13th Oct 2002; "Stephen Ambrose, Historian Who Fueled New Interest in World War II, Dies at 66" - New York Times, 14th Oct 2002;
Notice the spelling??? Been a pleasure to meet you, mate: I haven't laughed so much since Grandma died!
ARTICLE BY Lt. Col. Gordon "Jack" Mohr, AUS Ret. I guess you can't read because i already sent you this
TELLS ALL ABOUT EISENHOWERS HATRED OF GERMANS & HOW HE KILLED THEM.Unlike Patton who was a REAL HERO & PATRIOT who let his PW's go after the END OF THE WAR.
@MSM4U2POM That's the SAME Stephen E.Ambrose u dumb fucking moron who was accused of LYING-PLAGIARISM-FALSIFICATION-&INACCURACIES.....DUMBER THAN A DOORKNOB YOU ASSHOLE.
And then you RESEND me proof of your stupidity.lol hahahahha
@MSM4U2POM Funny how Bacque had AMERICAN GUARDS verify Germans being killed when they ran to the river to GET WATER TO DRINK. Try reading the book u fucking moron.
"Now fuck off if u can't read douchebag. You're a total waste of time".
ROFL!
I take it by the tone of that post, that you're a bit pissed off. Oh dear, what a pity, never mind.
This is what happens when you choose to believe the likes of Bacque, Mohr and their cronies. Why not save yourself the angst and start taking notice of real historians?
@MSM4U2POM Simply put, 'Other Losses' is crap. You believe what you like.NO SHIT MORON. I already sent you an entire website talking about Eisenjews hate of GERMANS. In which he was described as hating germans with a passion.That's why this scumbag never let any of the POW's go-WHILE Patton did-A REAL HERO.
What about all the Jews who died during the WWll they didnt die from natural causes? What about the Kristallnacht? The endlösung? It doesnt matter if they killed 1 million or 6 million, to me it is horrible no matter what. What about the nazi officer franz suchomel who have told about Holocaust and what happened to the Jews, see: Interview with a nazi ss officer - franz suchomel.
@globe255 IF it was 1 million then THAT is not a Holocaust THAT is not as terrible as ALL the other genocides in the WORLD! The ONLY reason why Israel is inside Palestine is because of this "Holocaust" everytime we question Israel about their warcrimes they daily commet towards the Palestinians they play the Holocaust card! Every day some one in the UN stands up against them Israel plays the Holocaust Card, Israel wanted a war in Iraq - we said no at first - then they played the Holocaust card!
"The entire atmosphere here is unwholesome ... Lawyers, clerks, interpreters and researchers were employed who became Americans only in recent years, whose backgrounds were imbedded in Europe's hatreds and prejudices." He criticized the one-sided handling of evidence. "Most of the evidence in the trials was documentary, selected from the large tonnage of captured records.
Charles F. Wennerstrum, an Iowa Supreme Court justice who served as presiding judge in the Nuremberg trial of German generals. "If I had known seven months ago what I know today, I would never have come here," he declared immediately after sentences were pronounced. "The high ideals announced as the motives for creating these tribunals have not been evident," he added.
Marcus, a fervent Zionist, became the "number three man in making American policy" in occupied Germany. As chief of the US government's War Crimes Branch in 1946 and 1947, he selected almost all of the judges, prosecutors and lawyers for the Nuremberg NMT Trials. (He later became a commander of Zionist "Haganah" military forces in Palestine.)
Two Jewish officers in the US Army -- Lieutenant Colonel Murray Bernays and Colonel David "Mickey" Marcus -- played key roles in the Nuremberg enterprise. In the words of historian Robert Conot, Bernays was "the guiding spirit leading the way to Nuremberg." Bernays, a successful New York attorney, persuaded US War Secretary Henry Stimson and others to accept the idea of putting the defeated German leaders on trial.
On the basis of these articles, the Tribunal accepted as valid the most dubious "evidence," including hearsay and unsubstantiated reports of Soviet and American "investigative" commissions. For example, the Tribunal accepted an American congressional report that "proved" gas chamber killings at achau, and a Polish government report (submitted by the US) that "proved" killings by steam at treblinka. (No reputable historian now accepts either of these stories.)M.W
@TheRedcatchop: So nothing at the tribunal was true. It is all lies if anything in the procedure is not absolutely flawless? There has been no research of any kind since then?? Using your logic we should have no system..legal or otherwise unless it is flawless. Tell me, what would a Nazi tribunal look like...assuming they would have taken the time to have one. LOL! Thanks for sharing.
The Tribunal shall not require proof of facts of common knowledge but shall take judicial notice thereof. It shall also take judicial notice of official governmental documents and reports of the United [Allied] Nations, including acts and documents of the committees set up in the various allied countries for the investigation of war crimes, and the records and findings of military and other Tribunals of any of the United [Allied] Nations.
The Charter of the International Military Tribunal permitted the use of normally inadmissible "evidence." Article 19 specified that "The Tribunal shall not be bound by technical rules of evidence... and shall admit any evidence which it deems to have probative value." Article 21 stipulated:
Anyone can refute anything that has happened in history by making their own version of history via a home made video. I can go to any battlefield and suggest nothing happened by current examination. It is very easy. So the question of credibility comes into play. Apparently, the less qualified you are to a Neo Nazi the more credible you are if you share Nazi values. Remember....Nazis were good. Their victims were bad....LMAO! These goose steppers are too much.
@AgouraMo lol this sounds silly but you are growing on me. Thank you for finally talking about this rationally! im honestly just curious, not malicious. However, can you please tell me why it is that the nuremburg trials admitted such outlandish falsehoods to convict the nazis, I think the genocide of six million jews and others was enough to get the result the victors desired. Why the need for the additional vilinization? Also, I do not know how anyone can refute DR Pipers interview, however>
@AgouraMo seletively edited it obviously was, as most tapes etc are..you cant deny that he does contradict himself, and the contradiction is massive to the theory. It is also fishy how the extermination programme was not mentioned in churchills volumes, which i checked myself. The forensic tests also are quite hurtful to the theory. look, even if there was the final solution as you and other believe, it still fails to explain and prove to us what the method was. I just hate being told to
@AgouraMo have faith in the gas chamber story. The only difference between the steam, electro chamber stories is that they have a few gas canisters which they can show off to people as definitive proof, when infact it really isnt as it was obviously used in the camps for hygine purposes. we probably wont agree on it, However it just annoyed me that you would not refute what he says. Also, it was bradley smoth who commissioned the tape and trip, not zundel, though for you i imagine it a fine line
@lalalady4216: This video series is part of the Samisdat series...owned by Zundel. If you are objective on this subject. I suggest you read The Nazi Doctors by Lifton. It goes into the T-4 program..which doctors cooperated and were later assigned to concentration camps. The final solution was just an extension of the T-4 program. Himmler stated that the public uproar to the T-4 program would have never existed if the SS were in charge. The SS knows how to follow orders etc.
@lalalady4216: Cont. In the T-4 program unfit Germans(not Jews) were euthanized via gas & injections. We are talking about 100,000 to 200,000 unfit Germans..MS, Cerebral Palsy,numerous mental states & even juvenile delinquency in some cases..over 5000 children. Military leaders worried about permanent wounded soldiers being exposed to this program. All of your arguments so far can be found in privately printed neo nazi pamphlets. Reading serious books on the subject would eliminate this debate.
@AgouraMo I know about the t-4 programe issue and it was horrific. However its my opio that it is only a theory as to how that influenced the gas chamber story. This secnario is relavently recent however so it begs the question as tohow they assumed there were gas chambers in the first place, let alone these magical steam and gas chambers. Listen we wont agree on the gas chamber story but i appreciate your right to believe what you and i hope ou will grant myself and other same couriticy.:)
@lalalady4216: Well, if you know about it. Tell me what the "special Aktions" were that SS doctors had to verify. You have every right to believe what you want. It would help your opinion if it was substantiated w/historic research which is very critical of your views. We have been debating a home movie w/ a clear agenda supported by neo nazis, white supremacists,Islamic fascists. You appear more objective than most but should know the company you keep. Yes, everyone is entitled to an opinion.
David Cole is Jewish like Al Capone is Catholic. He is an amateur home movie maker assistant hired by a Neo Nazi. There is something called academic discipline & peer review. David Cole has NO CREDENTIALS IN ANYTHING AT ALL!! He could just as easily give you medical advice. Some poor unfortunate souls would accept his medical advice because it is what they want to hear. All historians are revisionists. Deniers are just liars. Awake goose steppers! The Fuhrer is dead. Time to get a job.
@AgouraMo lmao you are just the limit! do the jidl give you a script on how to dismiss cole as a person lol. this isnt "academic review, this is just you getiing on here and spouting nonsense. REFUTE THE FACTS PRESNTED... in other words either piss, or get off the fucking pot. Most people are good people just wanting to know the otherside of the story. like me. so stop using your pathetic tactics and use your so called knowledge and intellect to debunk the facts presented in this video!!
@lalalady4216: I have mentioned Facts. You cannot refute them. So you claim that Cole's opinions are facts. They are not. You are entitled to your own opinions but not to your own facts. You have no idea what Cole/Zundel are showing. You have no idea what has been selectively shown or edited. You embrace Cole because he suggests a fantasy you share. That is not a fact. Auschwitz was 30 plus sub-camps. Some were killing stations others were not. Those who were there refute him. That is a fact.
What? I didn't quite catch it. What are the plenty of the videos and pictures of the concenctration camps and the dead bodies and stuff everything? This video says that there is nothing but the eyewitness' testimonies. Someone please enlighten me of what I've missed
Besoaria 1 hour ago
@etcuty228 we live in a time where everything is a conspiracy. 1/4 of americans are morons.
jazzinonkids 1 week ago
@NellaN1337 yes, you can. I dont belive everything the govnt says, but theres written records, pictures, and SURVIVORS. Might as well say there was no pearl harbor as well.
jazzinonkids 1 week ago
Your an absolute dumbass if you think it didnt happen
jazzinonkids 1 week ago
@jazzinonkids
Watch the video and argue against it if you can, but you can't. You're one of those morons that haven't had a single independent thought in your entire life, you accept everything your Jewish masters tells you as fact.
NellaN1337 1 week ago
Hmm i would have thought thousands of eye witnesses and mads graves would be convincing enough
MrLicker65 2 weeks ago
Moron, all guides in all (all) museuns, repeat what they learn. They are guides, not professors, less, University professors.
SuperPais 3 weeks ago
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In all this game, the devil is losing and at the end will be accused of everything because GOD don’t want any rivals. Conclusion: live at the full in the freedom of GOD (praying in a right form, following the INSTRUCTIONS in the Bible - keeping the 10 commandments - including keeping the Saturday as the 7th day etc.) instead of in the incapacity and limited power of devil because he is just a temporary puppet. Jesus Christ is our savior and our hope!
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In at least ten European Countries, you can go to prison for questionong the Holohoax.
In Germany, if you doubt that Soap was made of "Sacred Lard", you can go to prison for "Defaming the Memory of the Suds".
In Austria, if you deny that Lampshades were made of "Holy Hide", you can get five years for "Household Appliance Denial"!
To learn more about the Holocaust, visit:
CODOH (dot) com
VHO (dot) org
NAZI GASSINGS (dot) com
And the Truth will set the World free!
Sockpuppet2012 2 months ago
Hair, shoes, What about the pile of human bodies? The pictures of the people being shot over ditches already filled up with dead bodies? The multitude of dead humans lined up in rows on the ground? If these people who didn't come back weren't murdered by the Nazis, what happened to them? Did they just disappear?
etcuty228 2 months ago
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UKTVBoxVariety 1 month ago
AND THE UNNECESSARY SURGERIES?!! HUH HUH!?
TheURMYSPACE 2 months ago
What about the Pictures?! And the Videos?!
TheURMYSPACE 2 months ago
So are you just telling me they lied about the Holocaust? That there was no Terror and Hatred?
Because If so, why did I just so happen to see a Footage of a dead corpse being dragged out of the ground and being buried properly. Also why did I SEE A bulldozer pushing a group no not GROUP a pile of dead corpses in a ditch?!
TheURMYSPACE 2 months ago
@TheURMYSPACE Those were dead Germans
MoneyIsSilver 2 months ago
Wow... you mean all those people just magically disappeared? And have you ever heard of the velodrome d'hiver? or maybe they got amnesia and never went home? Is that an effect of zyklon b? Oh and all the eyewitnesses were lying, and moreover, told the same story.... hmmm...
evenstar132190 2 months ago
Damn Crackers
eazydee415 3 months ago
@eazydee415 before you bust out the "crackers" statement (i take you are of african decent) google orutube the name african professor tony martin. the jew has a lot to answer for and the african slave trade is one of those. hopeful one day we can all understand the amount of playing one side against the other the jews do to all peoples.
MWsandstorm 1 month ago
yeah the gas chamber was actually a building that concealed a tunnel below ground. the tunnel of course goes to isreal to the right and the usa to the left, hence easily explaining all those millions of missing jews etc.
what a load of bollocks..............
JohnBlunt59 4 months ago
why do we not know that the jews were living a comfortable live during their holocaust while the palestines have to suffer severly during their holocaust
groeneveldp 4 months ago
Very good a Jew in search of truth.
Guilherme1498 6 months ago
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listen to this bell-ends voice !!!! silly student prick !!!!!!!
davor1873 6 months ago
Interesting video!
Boldenberg 6 months ago
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The Holocaust has always been a matter of faith. Those promoting it never felt compelled to provide evidence, and pretended offense when asked for any.
Evidence of the extermination of the Jews on the level of that provided for Katyn was never offered. It was always based on the political capital of the victors, and now that is running out, police enforcement.
Just like organized religions! The holocaust,is a matter of faith!
TheRedcatchop 8 months ago 13
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Abraham Foxman, ADL on the Frontline, January 1994 Issue: "The Holocaust is something different. It is a singular event. It is not simply one example of genocide but a near successful attempt on the life of God's chosen children and thus, on God Himself. It is an event that is the antithesis of Creation as recorded in the Bible; and like its direct opposite, which is relived weekly with the Sabbath and yearly with Torah, it must be remembered from generation to generation."
TheRedcatchop 8 months ago 10
It is a historical fact that not one of the 54 fraudulently alleged “huge mass graves” of Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka has ever been proven to contain so much as - 1 / 1,000 of 1 % - of the alleged buried bodies, and not so much as one single person has ever been proven to have died by means of poison gas in a homicidal gas chamber at Auschwitz, Belzec, Chelmno, Majdanek, Sobibor or Treblinka.
TheRedcatchop 8 months ago 15
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@TheRedcatchop
"Not so much as one single person has ever been proven to have died by means of poison gas in a homicidal gas chamber at Auschwitz, Belzec, Chelmno, Majdanek, Sobibor or Treblinka".
Strange how you keep leaving Natzweiler-Struthof out of that list, isn't it Red? Is it just bad memory, or is this an example of lying by omission? You wouldn't do a thing like that - surely?
MSM4U2POM 7 months ago
@TheRedcatchop why the drop in population then?
transmoogrify 4 months ago
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@transmoogrify Meyers Handlexicon, Germany 1921 -- 11,600,000
World Almanac, 1925, pg. 752 -- 15,630,000, "In 1925 a census of Palestine gave a total of 115,151 Jews"
World Almanac, 1929, pg. 727 -- 15,630,000
National Council of Churches 1930 -- 15,600 ,000
March 24, 1933, Jewish newspaper Daily Express -- 14,000,000 Jews worldwide
World Almanac, 1933, pg. 419 -- 15,316,359, ["The estimate for Jews in the above table is for 1933, and is by the American Jewish Committee"
TheRedcatchop 4 months ago
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@transmoogrify World Almanac, 1936, pg. 748 -- world Jewish population = 15,753,633
World Almanac, 1938, pg. 510 -- world Jewish population = 15,748,091, with 240,000 in Germany
American Jewish Committee Bureau of the Synagogue Council, 1939 -- 15,600,000
World Almanac, 1940, pg. 129: World Jewish Population -- 15,319,359
World Almanac, 1941, pg. 510: World Jewish Population -- 15,748,09
TheRedcatchop 4 months ago
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@transmoogrify World Almanac, 1942, pg. 849: World Jewish Population -- 15,192,089 ("Jews include Jews by race not necessarily by religion")
World Almanac USA, 1947, pg. 748: World Jewish Population -- 15,690,000
World Almanac, 1949, pg. 289: World Jewish Population -- 15,713,638
Statistical Handbook of Council of Churches USA 1951 -- 15,300,000
Encyclopedia Britannica's 1955 Book of the Year -- 11,627,450,
TheRedcatchop 4 months ago
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@transmoogrify World Almanac, US News & World Report, 1983 population of Jews -- 16,820,850
World Almanac, 1996, pg. 646: World Jewish Population -- 14,117,000
World Almanac & Book of Facts, 1989: World Jewish Population --18,080,000
World Almanac & Book of Facts, 2001: World Jewish Population -- 13,200,0
TheRedcatchop 4 months ago
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Neither Dr. Larson nor any other forensic specialist has ever been cited by any Holocaust historian to substantiate a single case of death by poison gas, whether Zyklon-B or any other variety.
TheRedcatchop 8 months ago 5
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Part of that is a hoax." And what part was the hoax? Dr. Larson, who told his biographer that to his knowledge he "was the only forensic pathologist on duty in the entire European Theater," informed "Wichita Eagle" reporter Jan Floerchinger that there "never was a case of poison gas uncovered."
TheRedcatchop 8 months ago 4
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After his grim work at Dachau, he was questioned for three days by U.S. Army prosecutors. Dr. Larson's findings? According to an interview he gave to an American journalist in 1980, "What we've heard is that six million Jews were exterminated.
TheRedcatchop 8 months ago 4
When American and British forces overran western and central Germany in the spring of 1945, they were followed by troops charged with discovering and securing any evidence of German war crimes. Among them was Dr. Charles Larson, one of America's leading forensic pathologists, who was assigned to the Judge Advocate General's Department.Dr. Larson performed autopsies at Dachau and some twenty other German camps, examining on some days more than 100 corpses.
TheRedcatchop 8 months ago 6
AND WE CANT USE THEE EXCUSE THAT THE NAZIS DESTROYED THE EVIDENCE BECAUSE THEY INERCEPTED TRANSMISSIONS? HOW COULD THEY'VE DONE THIS, THEY DIDNT EVEN HAVE RECORDERS BACK THEN SOO THAT WAS A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT... AND WHY DISPUTE THE FACT THAT THE NAZIS DESTROYED EVIDENCE? WHY WOULDNT THEY'VE DESTROYED EVIDENCE THAT THEY MURDERED PEOPLE?
extremlybored45 8 months ago
AGAIN THE AUSCHWITZ GAS CHAMBERS WERE DEMOLISHED IN 1945 AND RE-CONSTRUCTED IN 1947...
extremlybored45 8 months ago
76 Jews came here lol
SomeWhiteDude2 9 months ago
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I REALLY WANTED TO WATCH THIS BUT I CAN'T LISTEN TO YOUR ANNOYING VOICE FOR A HOUR!!!!! HORRIBLE HORRIBLE VOICE BUD! I DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU AND I ALREADY HATE YOU!
shoot2merk 10 months ago
people are trained in their beliefs from a young age and very few possess the ability to be objective. The Holocaust myth is a good example of Soviet "re-education" it's been proven beyond doubt that 6 million is at best exaggerated (the Soviet official line is 4-5 million) yet many believe unquestioningly that 6 million died, they were turned into soap and lampshades etc when all of these things have been proven lies and hysteria by serious and politically correct historians
fleamarket3000 10 months ago
@letsfIogthezog
Arguing with people like you is absolutely pointless and ridiculous. You believe what you want, I'll believe what I know is right.
sparklingcherries 10 months ago
So... whats up with the pictures of skinny people?
I mean, i've seen pictures of multiple men standing around etc.
You're not gonna tell me thats typhoid, are you?
jake20589 10 months ago
@jake20589 It's starvation. These camps were not only outside of Germany itself but some were located within newly-collapsing German occupancies, and toward the end of the war allied bombing of convoys and routes made getting supplies to the camps impossible. This is also the same reason diseases such as Typhus began to suddenly overrun the camps.
WN4723 10 months ago
He's not even Jewish. He claims to have "always been an atheist." To wear a yamulke if you are not Jewish is disrespectful. "all there is is the eyewitness testimonies"
seriously? ALL there is? that is precious first hand evidence that is CONSISTENT from survivor to survivor that is worth more than any of his useless speculation.
The reason only 5% of Zyklon B was used on humans is because it only takes 300 ppm to kill humans in minutes and 7000-15000 to kill lice in several hours.
sparklingcherries 11 months ago
@sparklingcherries "it only takes 300 ppm to kill humans in minutes and 7000-15000 to kill lice in several hours."
Two different measurement standards are being used, with the pretense there is only one measurement standard.
The measurement standard used for the HCN killing insects is the measurement for killing every single insect. In other words, if there are a thousand insects on a piece of cloth or room, the measurement is for killing every single one of those thousand insects.
TheRedcatchop 11 months ago 3
@sparklingcherries "ALL there is? that is precious first hand evidence that is CONSISTENT from survivor to survivor that is worth more than any of his useless speculation."
Jean-Claude Pressac (Expert for the Jewish Beate Klarsfeld Foundation and author of several Auschwitz-Reports for Jewish bodies) in an interview for the book Histoire du négationnisme en France, Éditions du Seuil, Paris 2000, p. 613 ff)
TheRedcatchop 11 months ago 2
@sparklingcherries Paul Rassinier=With regard to the gas chambers, the almost endless procession of false witnesses and of falsified documents to which I have drawn the reader " s attention during this long study, proves, nevertheless, one thing: never at any moment did the responsible authorities of the Third Reich intend to order - or in fact order " the extermination of the Jews in this or any other manner.
TheRedcatchop 11 months ago 18
@TheRedcatchop
I don't understand how one can discredit hundreds of people who have seen these atrocities occur, including members of the sonderkommando, who stood very close to the gas chambers and heard all the screaming. Isn't it strange that all of their "stories" are very consistent and add up? And why would former SS members admit to this if it wasn't true? They have come forward from living stable comfortable lives and admitted that gassings happened because they've seen it.
sparklingcherries 11 months ago
@TheRedcatchop
Himmler talked openly about the extermination of the jews
MaeglinMiriel 5 months ago
@MaeglinMiriel Like so much else about this so called holocau$t, the Posen speech when scrutinized doesn't hold up.
TheRedcatchop 5 months ago
@sparklingcherries British Intelligence in World War Two, HMSO, 1981 F.Hinsey Ed., Vol. II, p.673. =
German military radio messages were successfully decrypted at Bletchley Park using the " enigma " codebreaker.
TheRedcatchop 11 months ago 16
@sparklingcherries Concerning the labour camps, over the period Spring 1942-February " 43, the following information was obtained: " Auschwitz, the largest of the camps , mentioned illness as the main cause of death, but included references to shootings and hangings. There were no references in the decrypts to gassings. " That seems clear enough - though no-one took any notice of it at Nuremberg. Nicholas Kollerstrom, PhD
TheRedcatchop 11 months ago 2
He's not even Jewish. He claims to have "always been an atheist." To wear a yamulke if you are not Jewish is disrespectful. "all there is is the eyewitness testimonies"
seriously? ALL there is? that is precious first hand evidence that is CONSISTENT from survivor to survivor that is worth more than any of his useless speculation.
sparklingcherries 11 months ago
@sparklingcherries With the measurement for humans, on the other hand, what's used is the measurement that can kill a single human being. This measurement is extremely low, because a small percentage of humans have a very low tolerance. In other words, if a thousand people were in a room, that concentration could kill one person out of that thousand.
TheRedcatchop 11 months ago 2
@sparklingcherries "Bungling, exaggerations, omissions and lies are the signpost of most reports of that époque ... It is inevitable that new documents will come to light which will shatter more and more the official Au-schwitz story. The present, seemingly triumphant portrayal of the universe of concentration camps (Auschwitz), is destined to be doomed. What can be saved of it? Very little!"
TheRedcatchop 11 months ago 2
He's not even Jewish. He claims to have "always been an atheist." Watch him on Donahue if you don't believe me.
sparklingcherries 11 months ago
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Great new vid on Youtube titled "The Last Days of the Big Lie" youtube.com/watch?v=-48HQpgQRz0
Safer to be in German work camp than German city as cities were being carpet bombed mercilessly.
Dr. David Duke's latest vid- “The Real Rogue Nuclear State” great also: youtube.com/watch?v=KLSlmLx4Fls
FDR vs Hitler. Both took power/office 1933 their countries unemployed 25-30%. 6-8 years later Germany rate 2% USA still 20%. How? Hitler threw off International Bankers they HATE him 4 it still.
2ndSamuel710 11 months ago
My god, this guy's voice is fucking annoying.
itchyballz300 11 months ago 2
@itchyballz300
Hahahaha!! that's so true!
sparklingcherries 10 months ago
crap these people talk.
aztec208 1 year ago
There is eyewitness, video, and photographic evidence of the German Army burning and destroying a lot of the evidence of their war crimes. They knew they only had days before they would have been overcome by allied troops so they were ordered to destroy everything.
RememberToday4ever 1 year ago
@RememberToday4ever No Order. No Plan .No Budget .No Weapon (No expert report stating: 'This was a homicidal gas chamber'). No Body (No autopsy report stating: 'This is or was the body of a person killed by poison gas.')
TheRedcatchop 1 year ago 2
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tvsux1 11 months ago
I deny the holocaust but would like to think it happened, to give those kikes reason to create these lies, 6 MILLION MORE!
smiddy515 1 year ago
Te lo dico in perfetto italiano:
Sei talmente patetico, e criminalmente ridicolo, che puoi essere subumanamente classificato... come una larva molliccia e cerebropenica che rincorre inutilmente una sua impossibile metamorfosi!
Similmente, appunto, a un viscido ametabolo.
Adesso traduci.
PagusPaetiniani 1 year ago
you do talk crap!
trbooks 1 year ago
so when was this guy assassinated by mossad?
knowthingman 1 year ago
No Prussian Blue staining on the walls means the media and government have been lying to us, day in and day out, for over 60 years.
It hurts knowing we murdered all those Germans based on a pack of lies. The German guards at Dachau were machine gunned by the Americans in cold blood , all because we had our heads filled with nonsense about gas chambers, that never even existed.
@globe255
Don't act like the Jews were blameless, they were rounded up because of all the harm they had caused Germany
pk1225 1 year ago 28
@pk1225
kikes have caused damage not only to germany but the entire world
nearly to every race
and they kill their own jews from time to time
kikes are scum.
bananito4 11 months ago
@bananito4 Just because one is a Holocaust Revisionist does NOT mean they have to be Anti-Semitic, unless you're a troll (which I'd assume is true, since you're posting this around the same time a thread on /b/ got posted concerning this), Jews are fine people. The main thing they do wrong today is try and profit from a "tragedy" that might not have happened and the disgusting thought process of Zionism, by which they oppress and slaughter Palestinians. But largely I love Judaism.
teethofghosts 11 months ago
@teethofghosts
im jewish
you stupid dumb son of a non-jewish-and-probably-a-nigger bitch,
you are not going to tell me how is to live with antisemitism caused by the actions of some jewish crooks that are using our intellectual stock for their own boring and destructive purposes.
bananito4 11 months ago
@bananito4 Talk to me when your post makes sense.
teethofghosts 11 months ago
@teethofghosts
yeah i know nigger brains are easily overloaded but im not here to make a genius out of a beast (you)
bananito4 11 months ago
@bananito4 Haha, I love you<3
teethofghosts 11 months ago
@teethofghosts
nope
you love my whip
bananito4 11 months ago
@bananito4 I love your dick
teethofghosts 11 months ago
@teethofghosts
yeah then plz get in the line.
bananito4 10 months ago
@pk1225 Don't forget GenEisenhowers DEATH CAMPS that killed 1,700,000 German POW's AFTER THE WAR WAS OVER. He starved them-where there was plenty of food,gave them no water-when 1 of the camps was next to a river & refused to shelter them-they were all outdoors with no shelter. PURE SCUM.How come they don't tell US about that SATAN? Great book-OTHER LOSES-JAMES BACQUE tells the facts.
U should expand on the harm the jews caused the german people.They set up embargoes correct?
ed11561 9 months ago
@ed11561
And who ELSE supports Bacque's bullshit, mate? He was caught putting words into the mouths of witnesses, overstated the death rate by a factor of ten, and the European Advisory Commission, Department of the Army's Center of Military History, the German Office of Military History in Freiburg and the United States Army Theater Provost Marshal figures (which Bacque misquoted) all tell a completely different story. The book is crap from start to finish.
MSM4U2POM 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM And who ELSE supports Bacque's bullshit, mate? HOW ABOUT AMERICAN SOLDIERS GUARDING THE CAMPS MATE! "overstated the death rate by a factor of ten" HORSESHIT. Bacque didn't "make up anything"genius. He got his numbers from French,English,German&Russian RECORDS.
Your COMMENT is crap from start to finish.
northerntruthseeker .blogspot.com/2009/08/re-writing-history-eisenhower-death.html
just check out some facts i've heard before in various places.You can read right mate?
ed11561 8 months ago
@pk1225
"We had our heads filled with nonsense about gas chambers, that never even existed".
ROFL!
Another quote, also from David Cole:-
"There is a very high probability, based on my own strict standard of documentary evidence, that the Struthof gas chamber was indeed used to kill Jews".
And before you cry foul, this is from LONG BEFORE he recanted. 1995, in fact.
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TheRedcatchop 8 months ago
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@MSM4U2POM" that the Struthof gas chamber was indeed used to kill Jews"
Once again ,total bullshit!.
TheRedcatchop 8 months ago
@TheRedcatchop
"Once again, total bullshit!".
LMFAO!
Wrong again, denier boy. It's part of a 16 page document written by Cole long before he recanted, in which he exposed Robert ('No Holes - No Holocaust') Faurisson as a liar. It's all there in the Shofar FTP Archives, and he (Cole) has never denied he wrote it. Not then. Not now.
MSM4U2POM 8 months ago
@TheRedcatchop This guy is a total asshole.
ed11561 8 months ago
@pk1225 All fucking LIES. Google EISENHOWER'S DEATH CAMPS- After WW2 WAS OVER -Eisenhower killed 1.7 MILLION GERMAN POW'S by STARVATION & KEEPING THEM FROM WATER. 1 Camp was right next to the rhine river & prisoners dying of thirst who ran to take a drink were machine gunned & killed.Patton let all his POW's GO after the war was over.Eisenhower HATED THE GERMANS&KILLED THEM whenever he could.He was just as bad as HITLER.May he burn in hell as i write this.They killed old men-kids&evensome women.
ed11561 8 months ago
@ed11561
ROFL!
Bacque misquoted and ignored official medical figures, citing a 30% death rate, when in reality it was just 3%; he did not follow up sources to interpret what "other losses" actually referred to - basically release without formal discharge. German historians do not support his claims, and we are still waiting for evidence - from anywhere - of his 800,000 to 1 million dead. Bacque's "brilliant exposé" is a brilliant exposé......of James Bacque!
MSM4U2POM 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM SOURCE? PROOF? Submit your VERIFIED FACTS not shit u pull out of your ass. So far you .PROVE NOTHING.
German historians do not support his claims,-OH YEAH? SHOW ME THE PROOF OF THAT GENIUS,
800,000 to 1 million dead-ALREADY IN THE FRENCH-RUSSIAN-ENGLISH-ETC. POW RECORDS. You fail bigtime.No proof at all just bullshit LIES.
ed11561 8 months ago
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MSM4U2POM 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM Occupation:Hard-drinking, loud-farting oik (allegedly).
YOU EVEN ADMIT IT? About time u told the truth. BTW England is going down even faster than the USA. They lost so many conquered lands they wouldn't have anything soon. lol hahaha
ed11561 8 months ago
@ed11561
"YOU EVEN ADMIT IT?".
LMFAO!
Pity you didn't read the bit about 'Laughing at people who make stupid inferences from my profile", isn't it?
MSM4U2POM 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM Why would i even bother reading the rest of your loud farting bullshit profile? I wouldn't.
ed11561 8 months ago
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@ed11561
"James Bacque might be willing to relegate the world food shortage to the category of myth. Few others will do so. Perhaps he can try the interviewing techniques that he employed in Other Losses — namely putting words in the mouths of selective eyewitnesses."
- James Tent, "Food Shortages in Germany and Europe 1945-1948"
MSM4U2POM 8 months ago
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"Most scholarly reviewers of Bacque's book have pointed out that Bacque fails to establish the proper historical context...worse, the historical records that Bacque did use are amateurishly misrepresented and often misleading or wrong. Once Bacque's endnotes are checked, frequent misreadings of documents are easily discernible."
- Gunter Bischoff, "Eisenhower and the German POWs"
MSM4U2POM 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM
Bischoff, Gunter??
Günter Bischoff has written (in German) a number of papers(a)(b) that strongly support Spanuth’s theory, which places Atlantis in the North Sea with the royal capital on a Helgoland larger than what we have today.
MAYBE HE WAS TOO BUSY LOOKING FOR FUCKING ATLANTIS WHEN HE TRIED RESEARCHING.COME ON-THIS ASSHOLE IS GOING TO REVIEW A BOOK ON ANYTHING? HAHAHHAHAHA
ed11561 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM Günter Bischoff has written (in German) a number of papers(a)(b) that strongly support Spanuth’s theory, which places Atlantis in the North Sea with the royal capital on a Helgoland larger than what we have today. He believes that its megalithic influence extended from Scandinavia and the British Isles on to North West France and southern Spain and the western Mediterranean. YOU MEAN THIS GUNTER? TALKING ABOUT WHERE FUCKING ATLANTIS WAS?LOL HAHAHA Sure genius i'll take him serious.
ed11561 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM STEVEN AMBROSE... DUMMY.Beginning late in his life and continuing after his death, however, many reports and evidence have continued to surface documenting long time patterns of plagiarism, falsification, and inaccuracies in many of his published writings and other work
BETTER DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE U SEND ME SHIT MORON.
ed11561 8 months ago
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"When scholars do the necessary research, they will find Mr. Bacque's work to be worse than worthless. It is seriously - nay, spectacularly - flawed in its most fundamental aspects... Mr. Bacque is wrong on every major charge and nearly all his minor ones".
Stephen Ambrose, 'Ike and the Disappearing Atrocities', New York Times Book Review, February 24, 1991
MSM4U2POM 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM Stephen Ambrose?/ A FUCKING BOOK REVIEWER?? HAHAHHAHA right
ed11561 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM He was a long time professor of history at the University of New Orleans and the author of many best selling volumes of American popular history. Beginning late in his life and continuing after his death, however, many reports and evidence have continued to surface documenting long time patterns of plagiarism, falsification, and inaccuracies in many of his published writings and other work.Ambrose said he was not "out there stealing other people's writings." U FUCKING MORON.LOL HAHAHA
ed11561 8 months ago
@ed11561
Goodness me, you are an angry little man, aren't you? Those verdicts on record, they're from multiple sources, and your opinion does not change or threaten them. I'm afraid you're well and truly stuffed on this one, mate. I cannot imagine any of those historians gives a flying one what you think, and neither do I.
MSM4U2POM 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM Stephen Edward Ambrose (January 10, 1936 – October 13, 2002) was an American historian and biographer.Beginning late in his life and continuing after his death, however, many reports and evidence have continued to surface documenting long time patterns of plagiarism, falsification, and inaccuracies in many of his published writings and other work. In response to one of the early reports, Ambrose said he was not "out there stealing other people's writings."
ed11561 8 months ago
@ed11561
"That's the SAME Stephen E.Ambrose...who was accused of LYING-PLAGIARISM-FALSIFICATION-&INACCURACIES".
Plagiarism only casts doubt on the source of a statement, mate, not its accuracy. These allegations fail to prove that he lied or falsified anything about Bacque either.
The subsequent book which he co-authored, "Facts Against Falsehood" - a direct rebuttal of 'Other Losses' - has been endorsed by heavyweights such as John Keegan. Bacque's work is shit. Get over it.
MSM4U2POM 8 months ago
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@MSM4U2POM lol u fucking loser..get over your own useless sources asswipe. You know fuck all about everything asswipe.Ever read the book? FUCK NO. lol LIAR.
northerntruthseeker .blogspot.com/2009/08/re-writing-history-eisenhower-death.html
ARTICLE BY Lt. Col. Gordon "Jack" Mohr, AUS Ret. I guess you can't read because i already sent you this
ed11561 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM ihr .org/jhr/v10/v10p161_Brech.html Institute for Historical Review
In 'Eisenhower’s Death Camps': A U.S. Prison Guard Remembers
Martin Brech
LOL A FUCKING PRISON GUARD REMEMBERS
ed11561 8 months ago
@ed11561
"A FUCKING PRISON GUARD REMEMBERS" etc.
Goodness me - a holocaust denier quoting eyewitnesses? Whatever next?
MSM4U2POM 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM Read the report asshole.
Goodness me? Just those 2 words show what a total ignorant asshole you are moron.
fuck off.
ed11561 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM Plagiarism only casts doubt on the source of a statement, mate, not its accuracy. These allegations fail to prove that he lied or falsified anything about Bacque either.
IT DIDN'T SAY JUST PLAGIARISM MORON-TRY READING THE ENTIRE SENTENCE ASSHOLE.
PLAGIARISM,FALSIFICATION, INACCURACIES...ETC.
YOU LOSE LOSER. LOL HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA your work is shit-get over it loser.
ed11561 8 months ago
@ed11561
"PLAGIARISM,FALSIFICATION, INACCURACIES" etc.
It's called the Slippery Slope Argument mate, and it's one of the most basic logical fallacies: A is true, B is true, and C is true; ergo D,E,F must also be true. Does not compute.
Therefore, these allegations [of plagiarism, falsification, inaccuracies] fail to prove that he lied or falsified anything about Bacque.
If you're happy to advertise your 'special needs' debating techniques, then carry on. It just makes my life easier.
MSM4U2POM 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM And you sending me bullshit OPINIONS by some asshole that's been charged with plagiarism,falsification & inaccuracies is just good research? LOL Sure i'd believe his OPINION. That's the sensible thing to do.hahahahaha fucking moron. You don't debate jerkoff-you're incapable of it.
Slippery slopes my ass. If someone is a LIAR..they are a LIAR. In other words dummy,nothing they say can be trusted.
ed11561 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM In debate or rhetoric, a slippery slope (also known as thin edge of the wedge, or the camel's nose) is a classic form of argument, arguably an informal fallacy. A slippery slope argument states that a relatively small first step leads to a chain of related events culminating in some significant effect, much like an object given a small push over the edge of a slope sliding all the way to the bottom.
YOU DIDN'T EVEN GET THAT RIGHT ASSHOLE.LOL IT DOES NOT SAY IN ANY RESPECT THAT ABC..
ed11561 8 months ago
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There's just three of the crushing indictments of the standard of Bacque's work, and there's plenty more. The overall picture they paint is one of dishonesty, amateurism and incompetence. Remember, this is just the tip of the iceberg, and you if you choose to believe the claims of a man who has been refuted in such severe terms, then it is your problem, not mine. Simply put, 'Other Losses' is crap. You believe what you like.
MSM4U2POM 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM Bacque misquoted and ignored official medical figures, citing a 30% death rate, when in reality it was just 3%;
GOT PROOF?? nope.
ed11561 8 months ago
@ed11561
"GOT PROOF?? nope".
Wrong.
"Furthermore, there are periods in the records when "other losses" is not in the record. It is for this period that Bacque uses the medical record and the famous missing zero typo. A total of 700,000 should be given as the number of prisoners in a report issued by the ETO surgeon, but the typist mistakingly omitted a zero, making the total 70,000".
(Cont'd)
MSM4U2POM 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM Stephen Edward Ambrose (January 10, 1936 – October 13, 2002) was an American historian and biographer of U.S. Presidents Dwight D. Eisenhower and Richard Nixon. He was a long time professor of history at the University of New Orleans and the author of many best selling volumes of American popular history. Beginning late in his life and continuing after his death, however, many reports and evidence have continued to surface documenting long time patterns of plagiarism, fal
ed11561 8 months ago
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"...Although a glance at the rest of the chart is sufficient to realize the typo, Bacque nevertheless uses that incorrect figure and the number of deaths reported (which was totalled correctly) to give 30%, when the actual number was about 3.56%".
- Shofar FTP Archive File: people[/]b[//]bacque.james[/]bacque.005
Not very good at this, are you?
MSM4U2POM 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM STEVEN AMBROSE... DUMMY.Beginning late in his life and continuing after his death, however, many reports and evidence have continued to surface documenting long time patterns of plagiarism, falsification, and inaccuracies in many of his published writings and other work
BETTER DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE U SEND ME SHIT MORON
NOT VERY GOOD AT THIS ARE YOU MORON? LOL
U send me quotes from a KNOWN PLAGARIST...u fucking asshole. lol AND AN ATLANTIS LOCATOR. HAHAHAHA fuck off asswipe.
ed11561 8 months ago
@ed11561
"STEVEN AMBROSE... DUMMY... BETTER DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE U SEND ME SHIT MORON".
Priceless!
"Stephen E. Ambrose" - Wikipedia; "Historian Stephen Ambrose dies" - CNN Entertainment, 13th Oct 2002; "Stephen Ambrose, Historian Who Fueled New Interest in World War II, Dies at 66" - New York Times, 14th Oct 2002;
Notice the spelling??? Been a pleasure to meet you, mate: I haven't laughed so much since Grandma died!
MSM4U2POM 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM So what you're telling me is that you sent THE WRONG PERSON'S NAME in your "source" material?
lol
ps- i'm not your mate faggot.That's probably your uncle.
ed11561 8 months ago
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MSM4U2POM 8 months ago
@ed11561
"So what you're telling me is that you sent THE WRONG PERSON'S NAME in your "source" material?".
LMFAO! The article was written BY Ambrose FOR The New York Times!!!
You know fuck all about this, don't you? If you were any denser, you'd stop reflecting light.
MSM4U2POM 8 months ago
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@MSM4U2POM northerntruthseeker .blogspot.com/2009/08/re-writing-history-eisenhower-death.html
ARTICLE BY Lt. Col. Gordon "Jack" Mohr, AUS Ret. I guess you can't read because i already sent you this
TELLS ALL ABOUT EISENHOWERS HATRED OF GERMANS & HOW HE KILLED THEM.Unlike Patton who was a REAL HERO & PATRIOT who let his PW's go after the END OF THE WAR.
ed11561 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM You're new at this shit right? Or you're a complete ignorant moronic asshole.
ed11561 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM The article was written BY Ambrose FOR The New York Times!!!
NO SHIT ASSHOLE. Boy u r 1 dumb fuck.
ed11561 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM That's the SAME Stephen E.Ambrose u dumb fucking moron who was accused of LYING-PLAGIARISM-FALSIFICATION-&INACCURACIES.....DUMBER THAN A DOORKNOB YOU ASSHOLE.
And then you RESEND me proof of your stupidity.lol hahahahha
ed11561 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM rense .com/general46/germ.htm
ed11561 8 months ago
@ed11561
"rense .com/general46/germ.htm".
What about it?
MSM4U2POM 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM : A is true, B is true, and C is true; ergo D,E,F must also be true. Does not compute.
THAT'S MORE OF YOUR STUPIDITY IN ACTION. NOTHING OF WHAT YOU SAY IS TRUE NEVERMIND A B C OR D MORON.
ed11561 8 months ago
@ed11561
"THAT'S MORE OF YOUR STUPIDITY IN ACTION. NOTHING OF WHAT YOU SAY IS TRUE NEVERMIND A B C OR D MORON".
Dear me, you are a funny little man aren't you - all that shouting! Anybody would think you're pissed off.
ROFL!
MSM4U2POM 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM Capital letters also denote EMPHASIS punk.
BTW "A is true, B is true, and C is true; ergo D,E,F must also be true." is the DUMBEST fucking thing i have ever seen.
Only a total failure would even try to use a stupid statement like that when he has lost an argument. hahahaha LOSER.
LOL
ed11561 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM .....that made up stupid equation that you submitted......A is true, B is true, and C is true; ergo D,E,F must also be true.
Slippery Slope says NOTHING(note emphasis punk)lol about your train of thought A-B-C-D-E-F-G- or anything else.
Go buy a clue somewhere.Nevermind ...just fuck off punk.
ed11561 8 months ago
@MSM4U2POM Funny how Bacque had AMERICAN GUARDS verify Germans being killed when they ran to the river to GET WATER TO DRINK. Try reading the book u fucking moron.
ps-there are others just like it douchebag,
northerntruthseeker .blogspot.com/2009/08/re-writing-history-eisenhower-death.html
ARTICLE BY Lt. Col. Gordon "Jack" Mohr, AUS Ret. I guess you can't read because i already sent you this.
Now fuck off if u can't read douchebag. You're a total waste of time.
ed11561 8 months ago
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@ed11561
"Now fuck off if u can't read douchebag. You're a total waste of time".
ROFL!
I take it by the tone of that post, that you're a bit pissed off. Oh dear, what a pity, never mind.
This is what happens when you choose to believe the likes of Bacque, Mohr and their cronies. Why not save yourself the angst and start taking notice of real historians?
MSM4U2POM 8 months ago
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@MSM4U2POM Simply put, 'Other Losses' is crap. You believe what you like.NO SHIT MORON. I already sent you an entire website talking about Eisenjews hate of GERMANS. In which he was described as hating germans with a passion.That's why this scumbag never let any of the POW's go-WHILE Patton did-A REAL HERO.
northerntruthseeker .blogspot.com/2009/08/re-writing-history-eisenhower-death.html
ARTICLE BY Lt. Col. Gordon "Jack" Mohr, AUS Ret. I guess you can't read because i already sent you this.
ed11561 8 months ago
What about all the Jews who died during the WWll they didnt die from natural causes? What about the Kristallnacht? The endlösung? It doesnt matter if they killed 1 million or 6 million, to me it is horrible no matter what. What about the nazi officer franz suchomel who have told about Holocaust and what happened to the Jews, see: Interview with a nazi ss officer - franz suchomel.
globe255 1 year ago
@globe255 IF it was 1 million then THAT is not a Holocaust THAT is not as terrible as ALL the other genocides in the WORLD! The ONLY reason why Israel is inside Palestine is because of this "Holocaust" everytime we question Israel about their warcrimes they daily commet towards the Palestinians they play the Holocaust card! Every day some one in the UN stands up against them Israel plays the Holocaust Card, Israel wanted a war in Iraq - we said no at first - then they played the Holocaust card!
RazorCell7 1 year ago
@RazorCell7 Its a good thing to be prepared.
globe255 1 year ago
@RazorCell7 Buddy, 1,000,000 people killed because of their ethnicity is still a Genocide attempt.
Time2Keeper1 1 year ago
The selection was made by the prosecution. The defense had access only to those documents which the prosecution considered material to the case."
TheRedcatchop 1 year ago 2
"The entire atmosphere here is unwholesome ... Lawyers, clerks, interpreters and researchers were employed who became Americans only in recent years, whose backgrounds were imbedded in Europe's hatreds and prejudices." He criticized the one-sided handling of evidence. "Most of the evidence in the trials was documentary, selected from the large tonnage of captured records.
The selection was made by the prosecution.
TheRedcatchop 1 year ago 2
Charles F. Wennerstrum, an Iowa Supreme Court justice who served as presiding judge in the Nuremberg trial of German generals. "If I had known seven months ago what I know today, I would never have come here," he declared immediately after sentences were pronounced. "The high ideals announced as the motives for creating these tribunals have not been evident," he added.
TheRedcatchop 1 year ago 2
Marcus, a fervent Zionist, became the "number three man in making American policy" in occupied Germany. As chief of the US government's War Crimes Branch in 1946 and 1947, he selected almost all of the judges, prosecutors and lawyers for the Nuremberg NMT Trials. (He later became a commander of Zionist "Haganah" military forces in Palestine.)
TheRedcatchop 1 year ago
Two Jewish officers in the US Army -- Lieutenant Colonel Murray Bernays and Colonel David "Mickey" Marcus -- played key roles in the Nuremberg enterprise. In the words of historian Robert Conot, Bernays was "the guiding spirit leading the way to Nuremberg." Bernays, a successful New York attorney, persuaded US War Secretary Henry Stimson and others to accept the idea of putting the defeated German leaders on trial.
TheRedcatchop 1 year ago
On the basis of these articles, the Tribunal accepted as valid the most dubious "evidence," including hearsay and unsubstantiated reports of Soviet and American "investigative" commissions. For example, the Tribunal accepted an American congressional report that "proved" gas chamber killings at achau, and a Polish government report (submitted by the US) that "proved" killings by steam at treblinka. (No reputable historian now accepts either of these stories.)M.W
TheRedcatchop 1 year ago
@TheRedcatchop: So nothing at the tribunal was true. It is all lies if anything in the procedure is not absolutely flawless? There has been no research of any kind since then?? Using your logic we should have no system..legal or otherwise unless it is flawless. Tell me, what would a Nazi tribunal look like...assuming they would have taken the time to have one. LOL! Thanks for sharing.
AgouraMo 1 year ago
The Tribunal shall not require proof of facts of common knowledge but shall take judicial notice thereof. It shall also take judicial notice of official governmental documents and reports of the United [Allied] Nations, including acts and documents of the committees set up in the various allied countries for the investigation of war crimes, and the records and findings of military and other Tribunals of any of the United [Allied] Nations.
TheRedcatchop 1 year ago
The Charter of the International Military Tribunal permitted the use of normally inadmissible "evidence." Article 19 specified that "The Tribunal shall not be bound by technical rules of evidence... and shall admit any evidence which it deems to have probative value." Article 21 stipulated:
TheRedcatchop 1 year ago
Anyone can refute anything that has happened in history by making their own version of history via a home made video. I can go to any battlefield and suggest nothing happened by current examination. It is very easy. So the question of credibility comes into play. Apparently, the less qualified you are to a Neo Nazi the more credible you are if you share Nazi values. Remember....Nazis were good. Their victims were bad....LMAO! These goose steppers are too much.
AgouraMo 1 year ago
@AgouraMo lol this sounds silly but you are growing on me. Thank you for finally talking about this rationally! im honestly just curious, not malicious. However, can you please tell me why it is that the nuremburg trials admitted such outlandish falsehoods to convict the nazis, I think the genocide of six million jews and others was enough to get the result the victors desired. Why the need for the additional vilinization? Also, I do not know how anyone can refute DR Pipers interview, however>
lalalady4216 1 year ago
@AgouraMo seletively edited it obviously was, as most tapes etc are..you cant deny that he does contradict himself, and the contradiction is massive to the theory. It is also fishy how the extermination programme was not mentioned in churchills volumes, which i checked myself. The forensic tests also are quite hurtful to the theory. look, even if there was the final solution as you and other believe, it still fails to explain and prove to us what the method was. I just hate being told to
lalalady4216 1 year ago
@AgouraMo have faith in the gas chamber story. The only difference between the steam, electro chamber stories is that they have a few gas canisters which they can show off to people as definitive proof, when infact it really isnt as it was obviously used in the camps for hygine purposes. we probably wont agree on it, However it just annoyed me that you would not refute what he says. Also, it was bradley smoth who commissioned the tape and trip, not zundel, though for you i imagine it a fine line
lalalady4216 1 year ago
@lalalady4216: This video series is part of the Samisdat series...owned by Zundel. If you are objective on this subject. I suggest you read The Nazi Doctors by Lifton. It goes into the T-4 program..which doctors cooperated and were later assigned to concentration camps. The final solution was just an extension of the T-4 program. Himmler stated that the public uproar to the T-4 program would have never existed if the SS were in charge. The SS knows how to follow orders etc.
AgouraMo 1 year ago
@lalalady4216: Cont. In the T-4 program unfit Germans(not Jews) were euthanized via gas & injections. We are talking about 100,000 to 200,000 unfit Germans..MS, Cerebral Palsy,numerous mental states & even juvenile delinquency in some cases..over 5000 children. Military leaders worried about permanent wounded soldiers being exposed to this program. All of your arguments so far can be found in privately printed neo nazi pamphlets. Reading serious books on the subject would eliminate this debate.
AgouraMo 1 year ago
@AgouraMo I know about the t-4 programe issue and it was horrific. However its my opio that it is only a theory as to how that influenced the gas chamber story. This secnario is relavently recent however so it begs the question as tohow they assumed there were gas chambers in the first place, let alone these magical steam and gas chambers. Listen we wont agree on the gas chamber story but i appreciate your right to believe what you and i hope ou will grant myself and other same couriticy.:)
lalalady4216 1 year ago
@lalalady4216: Well, if you know about it. Tell me what the "special Aktions" were that SS doctors had to verify. You have every right to believe what you want. It would help your opinion if it was substantiated w/historic research which is very critical of your views. We have been debating a home movie w/ a clear agenda supported by neo nazis, white supremacists,Islamic fascists. You appear more objective than most but should know the company you keep. Yes, everyone is entitled to an opinion.
AgouraMo 1 year ago
David Cole is Jewish like Al Capone is Catholic. He is an amateur home movie maker assistant hired by a Neo Nazi. There is something called academic discipline & peer review. David Cole has NO CREDENTIALS IN ANYTHING AT ALL!! He could just as easily give you medical advice. Some poor unfortunate souls would accept his medical advice because it is what they want to hear. All historians are revisionists. Deniers are just liars. Awake goose steppers! The Fuhrer is dead. Time to get a job.
AgouraMo 1 year ago
@AgouraMo lmao you are just the limit! do the jidl give you a script on how to dismiss cole as a person lol. this isnt "academic review, this is just you getiing on here and spouting nonsense. REFUTE THE FACTS PRESNTED... in other words either piss, or get off the fucking pot. Most people are good people just wanting to know the otherside of the story. like me. so stop using your pathetic tactics and use your so called knowledge and intellect to debunk the facts presented in this video!!
lalalady4216 1 year ago
@lalalady4216: I have mentioned Facts. You cannot refute them. So you claim that Cole's opinions are facts. They are not. You are entitled to your own opinions but not to your own facts. You have no idea what Cole/Zundel are showing. You have no idea what has been selectively shown or edited. You embrace Cole because he suggests a fantasy you share. That is not a fact. Auschwitz was 30 plus sub-camps. Some were killing stations others were not. Those who were there refute him. That is a fact.
AgouraMo 1 year ago
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One question:
Before WW2 there were 8 million jews in Europe.
After WW2 there were no more than 2 million jews left.
Where did the 6 million jews go?
Lasarus4 1 year ago