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  • I am mystified by Fleming. She seems so completely false. But people adore her. I don't know what I'm missing. To me she feels/sounds like one big lie.

  • @fullbuck50 you know... I felt the same way for a long time until I watched her in Thais and listened to her interviews on youtube. Up until recently, her voice hadn't been all that moving to me, but the more I listen, the more I like. And the more I liked the voice, the more I took what she said at face value. But, then again, not everyone likes every singer!

  • WHY ,AND WHO TOLD HER TO SING THE COLORATURA ROLES,WHEN HER VOICEIS NOT A VOICE OF AGILITY,AND THE COLORATURA IS HAVY,AND IS MISSING SO MUCH OF THE BELCANTO STYLE.FOR MONEY? OR SOMEONE PAY THE MET TO HER SING IT THERE? SHAME AFTER LEGENDARY LUCIAS AT MET HAVING HER AS LUCIA IS A BIG,NO SENCE OR TASTE,HAVE THE HIGHT NO MEANS NOT MEANS WE CAN SING ALL,PLUS IS TASTE LESS HEAR HER AT SUCH REPERTOIRE.AND THE TRUE ANSWER IS THAT SHE IS NOT BOOKED TO SING THIS REPERTOIRE ANY MORE ANY WHERE.THANKS GOD

  • Isn't it great to see Beverly again? She's our Bubbles--funny and a class act. One learns so much from what she has to say about opera--yes it is about the voice---

  • Ms. Netrebko is lovely, but she is NOT a coloratura. Why is she hogging roles like Lucia from other artists? Why?-cuz the Met management (Levine, et al) is mad about her (talk about mad)--and have lost their common sense in casting. Now, Ms. Netrebko, watch a REAL coloratura artist like Sills or Sutherland go to work here.

  • @windstorm1000 callas was not a coloratura either, was she? yet she sang belcanto and Medea

  • Netrebko and Fleming look like those high school girls that are bitches and sluts and are "friends" but that in reality hate each other but face to face they just tell each other: "you are wonderful" "No, you are" "No, you are".

  • The blackface at 2:41 is making me uncomfortable.

  • Okay, Fleming praising Nebtrebko for her Lucia and Netrebko praising Fleming for her Imogene; no offense but they kept putting their feet deeper and deeper in their mouths! I These are not bad artists by any means (I actually ADORE Fleming and Anna has an amazing vocal instrument) but their musical appreciation and interpretation are just miles away from my expectation. Needless to say I appreciate their doing it, I just wish that there would not be that prolific marketing circling around!

  • Anna has such a beautiful voice, but there is no excitement in her singing, and she can get pretty sloppy in her singing at times.  Beautiful lady, however. Doesn't hold a candle to Sills, Sutherland, or La Callas.

  • Io la odio. I'm sorry.

  • Che tenerezza, beverly!

  • Renee Fleming is TOTALLY being a Katie Kuric! hahahaha

  • "madness is what opera is all about" so true. opera is crazy and intense.

    PS: I think the reason they say bel canto is medicine for the voice is because the bel canto composers had a good sense of the way the voice moves most comfortably and naturally. verdi and wagner take everything out of their singers and push them to the limit (this can be fun too though)

  • 'tell me an opera you can hide behind...' --she's right! One should never hide behind orchestration.

  • It's sad to see Beverly Sills in this...later that summer (2007) she would die of lung caner...looking at this video from months before she died, she didnt seem ready to go...nice to know she was part of these live internet/movie screen telecasts

  • Renee Fleming is so different "interviewing" someone! Renee is a diva (in the negative sound) and here she's almost like Katie Kuric whom she resembles lol...Anna Netrebko is a great singer and at least she's model...and she is sa knock out super model type...I saw her sing Lucia at the LA Opera...loved it

  • I always wish that Renee Fleming was more sincere when she sings. Whenever I hear her talk, she's so down to earth and sweet, but when she sings I just see a diva full of herself, which is not her at all. I love watching her interviews. Also, I love Beverly Sill's interpretation of opera, and what singers bring to it.

  • Are you serious, Renee may do tons of things that people may not agree with wihile singing but what she always does is give her entire self when she sings. She is always totally committed to the character...

  • I couldn't agree with you and AmericanEvita more. The Tucker gala clip of her doing "Tacea la notte" is a case in point. There is no effort to "dig into" the music, and she has developed (or always had) some nasty vocal eccentricities. It's beautiful tone mixed with slovenly musicianship = very popular!

  • Anna Netrebko tiene suficiente talento propio. No necesita ser una "putana" para hacerse notar.

  • Al contrario solo por eso dejo de ser una sirviente. Es una mierda.

  • ¿Qué prueba tienes de lo que dices?

  • que mas pruebas quieres que sus patéticas habilidades para "cantar" ópera, si Netrebko no fuera la belleza de mujer que es, nunca hubiera dejado de ser la sirvienta que limpiaba los baños en el lugar donde fue "descubierta". Me imagino que cuando la ecuchas no traes puesto tu aprarato de ayuda auditiva y por eso dices que canta bien. Es una puta que solo se dedica a enseñar las chiches, pobrecita en su Lucia en el Met no pudo cantar las dos E-flat de la Escena de la locura

  • Lo único que prueban tus palabras es que no tienes idea de técnica vocal: ella tiene una bella tessitura, un registro amplio y parejo. Efectivamente su Lucia en el MET fue bastante desafortunada,pero todos los cantantes cometen errores. Ha hecho roles notables como Manon, Adina, y para qué decir su desempeño en ópera rusa, donde ha hecho un gran aporte. Ok, no es Callas pero es un buen elemento. Además ella completó sus estudios en el conservatorio, no saltó de barrer a cantar en escena

  • Técnica Vocal! jajajaja La tessitura y el registro son cualidades de la voz, no tienen que ver nada con la técnica, si la técnica de Netrebko fuera tan buena como dices entonces su Lucia no hubiera sido "desafortunada" (patética es lo que fue y luego con Villazón que queria sonar como Di Stefano pero sin la voz de éste último).

  • Netrebko es tan solo una soprano lirica con un poco de agilidad, si tuviera tecnica lo hubiera demostrado en Lucia o en Amina( y no adina com tu escribes) cantando todo los ornamentos escritos y no omitiendo nada, donde hubiera podido hacer un perfecto diminuendo desde la estratosferica E-flat, pero como tu bien has dicho, "esa" no es Callas.

  • Además efectimamente, no brinco inmediatamente de barrer a cantar, primero tuvo que brincar en varias camas. Cuando pueda cantar Il trovatore, Armida, La Vestale, Medea, Die Walkure, Isolde, Turandot, Esclarmonde, Lakme (pero el aria de las campanas) Fidelio, Carmen y demás rolesde mezzo, entonces platicamos y me hablas de su "amplio registro y gran técnica".

  • ¿buen elemento? habría que ver con quién la comparas, si es con Spears o con Paris, es muy buena, pero si es con elementos como Tebaldi, Caballé, Sutherland, Nilsson. Están muy lejanos los días en que había sopranos de esa calidad y para que otra absoluta como La Divina Callas surja es casi imposible. Además el gusto de los asistentes a la ópera ha degenerado y le apluden a cualquier cosa, como ya no hay grandes cantantes pues se han acostumbrado a lo que hay.

  • Alguien feliz y que se dice amante de un arte jamas se expresaria del modo que tu lo haces, aun cuando alguien no fuese de tu gusto musical, menos aun tratando de socavar la imagen de aquella persona con chismes de alcoba, de los cuales la unica prueba que existe es tu palabra, y que por lo demas no viene al caso discutir en un foro dedicado al canto.

  • Por ultimo, porque no respondiste mostrandome todos tus conocimeintos en ópera, acaso te calo darte cuenta que la tesitura y registro son culaidades de la voz y no tiene nada que ver con técnica. Tus comentarios te muestran tal como eres, un pobre ignorante que no sabe de ópera y que tiene que recurir a retorica muy, peor muy barato y simple.

  • Tu manera de expresarte sobre esta cantante nos dice mucho mas de ti que de Netrebko. Aprovechas de manera cobarde este foro para ventilar tu veneno, seguramente el producto de tus propias frustraciones como profesional, y sin dar tu nombre tiras dardos de solo apuntan a tu propia imagen.

  • jajajaj, un arrastrado/ como tu solo me da risa. Pon el ejemplo d ela valentia y pont tú tu nombre. Los que son como tu son lo speores porque segun no rompen un plato peor e spor que ya tiene toda la vajilla rota. te dejo para que ya no pierdas tu tiempo y puedas seguir tratando de ser la "Vestida" de Netrebko.

  • me encanta como piensas. te felicito.

  • This video is just Netrebko propaganda, I cant believe they put all those great singers and then Scotto saying that Netrebko was one of the best singers shes ever heard...

  • Her management probably strong armed Gelb into putting her in this. I guess Scotto had no choice to say what she said, but hopefully she was thinking " putana". She's a disgrace and represents everyhting that's wrong with opera today. She's an amoeba who can't even decide what to do with her body on state except to raise her ams.

  • God! Have you listened her last Lucia at the MET? I was like "what the hell are you doing? are you deaf?" There were not stupid mistakes, it was really bad,,,,,,,,, and even the MET is going to release a DVD of NEtrebko's Lucia, not no dvd of Dessay's Lucia or Damrau's Lucia. Sometimes I want to slap everyone in the face ¬¬! LOL sorry but it gets me really mad.

  • No, I didn't listen to her Lucia at the Met. I had a root canal scheduled for that day and it was more enjoyable. She's getting promoted because that's the image they want to project " the new and improved face of opera", Big boobs and musically challenged. Actually, I have slapped someone in the face recently. Just listen to Callas or Sutherland - it'll make you feel better.

  • lol!!!!

  • Ok, I didn't really slap them that hard but.... :)

  • @Andante735 haha brilliant, love it.

  • @Andante735 What are you talking about Anna is like a B cup haha Her Lucia wasn't a traditional but the acting was superb not far fetch like Natalie Dessay =/

  • It will be an excellent record of her inferior singing.

  • What are you talking about? Its been 6 months.

  • Ms. Sills's (who is in VIP Heaven, by the way) notes on the orchestra and the orchestration are so interesting, as a listener I had never thought of that detail... its wonderful when a professional tells you those thing, you learn and you value the art of opera..

  • WOW! What is it?! What is it?!...Oh but you know what? I love you so much...But why I love you? No, actually I hate you.

    Renata, I love you so so SO much!

  • Renata Scotto's description of a mad scene is marvellous! She is divine!

  • I LOVE LOVE LOVE SCOTTO:)))

  • I LOVE LOVE LOVE NETREBKO ... amazing!

  • Why does Renee Fleming remind me of Hilary Clinton here?

  • I like these Met Hi-Def interviews. Fleming is very professional, like Sills before her as an interviewer. I also like how Netrebko and Fleming compliment each other about their musicianship. Sills and Scotto are so stately and dignified in their segments; Scotto speaks so highly about Netrebko. That must be a good omen for her. They all seem to have a highly impoverished grasp about bel canto mad scenes, as they have performed them so many times.

  • I believe the answer to her detracters lies in one word JEALOUSY she has much work to do with her voice but she will endure and to those who think her rubbish you should really bite your tongues as your comments do not affect the way people look at Anna but the way they think and look at you.You are so lucky to be anon here or you may face more than replys like this.

  • Anna is phemonimal.. and Renata agrees

  • um, just to settle this, why do people that know more than the basics of opera (namely, previous opera singer) love her? it's because she's DIFFERENT! shes not like the bright sopranos from everywhere else, she has the russian darkness, but she can handle other roles besides russian opera, that is why she is famous. tchaikovsky wrote all of his sopranos for that kind of voice, it truly is magic, none of you have enough operatic exposure or experience to accept it.

  • What bitches you all are. Petty catty bitches.

    You sound like old hags and tragic,bitter queers.

  • You don't know nothing adout opera for sayin things like that!!

  • Oh...I was saying that to someone else...sorry...but who are you saying that to?

  • i am not a fan of negative comments, BUT i must say this - this russian girl is an absolute zero! i can't understand why she's here, why she's at the Met and what the hell is going on with Met nowadays if we have to pay the same price for the seanson ticket to endure this hardship for our ears as we paid years before when we actually LOVED everything about the Met. SHAME!!!!

  • She looks like a russian "mugic" peasant. It's what she is , no? Really I don't like her. Her voice is dark almost black in tne medium an white in the upper notes. I really likes much moore the old singers.

  • Joana are you sure it isn't Juana Loca?You are not a very nice person all you needed to say was you preferred the older singers and leave it at, that personal attacks just show how small and narrow minded you are.Enjoy your solitude ,people like you are not happy unless they are complaining and being spiteful

  • i think Netrekko should go to Hollywood As a singer she lacks the most important ,taste and musicality, Her voice is strange.

  • what is this??? Fleming don¨t sing anymore, all of a sudden she¨s a report woman?? I don¨t understand,

  • I love renata scotto!

  • Is Renee Fleming drugged!

  • Annita, you definitely has stolen very little. Further, this little is deformed just like your English accent.

  • Its so crazy how fast she went, and beverly seems like her normal self here...a great loss.

  • pretty funny, because she souns a little bit when polish girls speaks english.. like my cousins from poland :)

  • Beverly is now where she belongs: with all the Angels.

  • I completely agree and we will all miss her.

  • Sadly, as some or most of you know, Mrs. Sills is gravely ill with cancer. It seems almost irrelevant to be writing this now, but in her honor I will. The issue for me is not whether Fleming or Netrebko have talent, they clearly do. I personally prefer Netrebko's sound- it's lush and round, and at times reminds me of Mirella Freni. I am not attracted to Fleming's singing, and I'll leave it that. The real problem I have is that these 2 are being held up as some type of Bel Canto experts.

  • Netrebko is amazing singer.Last time when I saw her performance i stoped to breath for few seconds.She has beautiful voice.I dont think she became singer of the year in some countries just because of cute face.And also i dont think in opera world it is possible be get thousands od admires just of reason of beauty.Why it became a problem that singer can be also a good actress?Also i cannot understand why people who doesnot like Anna Netrebko, watching her videos and going to her performances.

  • The problem is not being a good actress; the problem is not being a bel canto singer, yet choosing to sing those roles. And if we love bel canto opera, and the MET does a rare one of them like Puritani, we are stuck with whoever they send out there. It's not like we can go see Puritani anywhere else.

  • We could go see it in Seattle with the INCREDIBLE soprano Eglise Gutierrez. ;)

  • That's right...Why does nearly everyone hate Natrebko

  • be nice, netrebko is a powerhouse, if you don't like her don't watch her videos/

  • Passing a bunch of stale bouquets, Netrebko is best not thinking of the legacy since she will contribute nothing to it. If, according to Fleming, this is great singing, then opera has certainly made its final crossover to a pop audience that, like American Idol, has no standards other than media cache.

  • Thank you for you gift. Quite interesting.

  • Fleming and Netrebko sound like retards complimenting each other. Sills should be doing the interview, and give that Russian whore a good grilling.

  • @ Laeliapurpurata

    your comment is just primitive

  • Hahahahahaha, nice.

  • joan sutherland --lucia is the best! remus

  • haha. THIS is hilarious. i love renee, and thought she did a very nice commentary. sills is hilarious and she is fantastic always. anna did a good job with the role. and...renee should put back on some weight...her face looks a bit sunken in...don't you guys think?

  • continued : However, this assessment of them has nothing to do with past v. present, it has to do with quality. There are many singers who sang in the past that I don't like and there are some singers singing presently that I do. It is a major cop out for people to say that one is only criticizing a singer because he or she is currently singing and not dead or retired.

  • Agreed 100% gvips123. Brilliantly worded comments.

  • People praise Caballe, Callas, Sutherland etc, because in spite of their flaws they had qualities that were incredibly rare, special, and virtuoistic. Imo, the same cannot be said of Netrebko or several other active singers. I don't see anything that unique or amazing that makes forgot about what is wrong.

  • People always praise the talents of Callas and Sutherland and Sills etc at the expense of current singers like Fleming and Netrebko. Ultimately if you listen to a recording of the great sopranos of the past you'll hear just as many flaws as you will on the recording by a current "star". It's about a great voice yes- I consider everyone mentioned to have a great voice. But it's also about stage presence, presentation and personal preference.

  • Thank you! I so agree!

  • You really think that Sutehrland or Sills or Caballe would have gotten away with the kind of CRAP singing that Netrebko and Fleming are doing? I don't. Sutherland and Sills (and others) gave studio quality performances on stage, and esp in the case of Sills, acting the HELL out it too. Netrebko should stick with lyric rep, Fleming...she needs to get a good coach to get rid of her...idiosycracies.

  • Well said! I couldn't agree with you more.

  • I think judging a singer's talent is completely subjective. Tastes in talent are different among everyone. For every person that says he or she likes Renee Fleming or Anna Netrebko, there will be someone who says she doesn't. The same goes for Maria Callas or any of the other "Golden Age" singers. I agree that art evolves. Opera evolves and its demands evolve. Halls are bigger and accomodate more people. This has greatly changed the sound of singers today.

  • For how much longer must we listen to whiners complain that 'back in the day we had real singers, not like these fakers today.' Give it a rest. This was common in the 80's, in the 50's, and in the 30's (read the books). What utter hogwash. Art is alive; technique evolves. If you are stuck on the memories of your own 20's or 30's you are dying. We have the records, there was great singing then, there is great singing now. Perhaps YOU can't sing so well any longer, and that's the burn.

  • You'll have to listen to whiners as long as people like Netrebko have HUGE careers. There's nothing really special about her, other than looking good on stage. If you compare the voice and technique to someone like Sills or Sutherland, you see really how much she is lacking, in this repertoire ESPECIALLY. There IS no truly GREAT Bel Canto soprano around at the moment. Renaaaay included.

  • Although, I should Correct myself. Ruth Ann Swenson is an AMAZING singer, and she's not singing at the MET as much because they'd rather have substandard talent like Netrebko because she's thin and pretty. Opera fans don't pay to see glorified POP stars. Swenson is maybe one of the only sopranos that still has the same kind of talent that Sills, Sutherland and Caballe had.

  • Mind you...there are a few newbies coming around who could restore that. Eglise Gutierrez especially.

  • Are there any videos of here that I could see!!! Of Eglise Gutierrez I mean!!!

  • Type in Qui La Voce and it will show Eglise singing this mad scene from I Puritani in a way that isn't embarassing.

  • Renee Fleming is so dull...

  • u r dull! stop hating on renee!!!

  • Y a Joan Sutherland, la soprano lírico spinto coloratura por excelencia no la invitaron????

  • I think it is very interesting to see all these singers doing different types of mad scenes, but i have to say i don't think Anna Netrebko is as good an actress as people make out she is...but still that's just me. But very interesting! thanks heaps!

  • You SHOULD STEAL A LOT FROM THESE GREAT SOPRANOS not JUST A LITTLE.

  • Anna Netrebko has such a cute accent.

  • Great Stuff !!

  • overrated or not they still have lovely voices. That is undeniable

  • O.M.G. Renee is starting to show up on Anna's chest X-rays.

  • The two most overated singers in the history of opera!!together with two of the greatest!!

  • oh mariogorga...why you gotta hate? why can't we all just be happy that opera is still alive and kicking ass?

  • I think there is much merit to your comment here

  • Yes I am glad that opera still alive,but I am a professional I have spend 30 years of studies of BelCanto and voice and neither of these two ladies is great,they are part of opera day when bad singers have become great because of the lack of Great Voices.

  • so i suppose you can sing better?

    Regardless my point is they're NOT BAD singers, if they were then they would not get such priase from many conductors and critics... Every singer has flaws, its part of being human, just sit back and look at the bigger picture, and i guess in the end, it comes down to what you personally like

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