Wow, this is close to self-parody. If I wasn't familiar with Mr Fiore's work, I would have assumed that the images of the working people were satirical hyperbole comparing modern liberal sensibilities to that of the Bolsheviks. I guess the fact that they resemble old Soviet posters was a complete accident.
Also, LOL @ private work being swapping useless pieces of paper. 'Cuz we all know that the evil white CEO's that hoard all their money also pay other white men to do nothing.
the problem with this kind of plan, is that you cant give 100 people 100 shovels and build a road, it takes training to operate the heavy machinery that we use now adays.
What lovely propaganda. I see now that the politicians that created this recession will be able to pick winners and spend us out and that inventors don't need investment capital, we should just grab a hammer, saw, and crowd around a computer and the magic box will provide us with anything we imagine.
Actually it's satire, not propaganda. Look them up on your "magic box." The point is America's economic woes are caused in part because we don't actually produce anything anymore. We've been acting like a foolish trust fund brat, spending money left and right without bringing any in and just expecting the money to always be there. Now we've broke the bank, litarally in many cases, and we have to *gasp* get jobs, jobs that actually PRODUCE something,
This is a common misconception and one I'd really like to see put to bed. We do produce stuff, we do have a manufacturing sector. It's just cheaper to get shit built elsewhere. But even if we had no manufacturing sector we'd still have the design and management jobs.
@Gammaclipper Manufacture is what created our middle class, & our manufacturing sector is pathetic compared to what it once was. Also you reaganites pay to much attention to investment, it's not just the rich who invest the middle class does as well, & without the need for production investment is useless.
@Gammaclipper Manufacture is what created our middle class, & our manufacturing sector is pathetic compared to what it once was. Also you reaganites pay to much attention to investment, it's not just the rich who invest the middle class does as well, & without the need for production investment is useless.
@Gammaclipper Manufacture is what created our middle class, & our manufacturing sector is pathetic compared to what it once was. Also you reaganites pay to much attention to investment, it's not just the rich who invest the middle class does as well, & without the need for production investment is useless.
@Gammaclipper Manufacture is what created our middle class, & our manufacturing sector is pathetic compared to what it once was. Also you reaganites pay to much attention to investment, it's not just the rich who invest the middle class does as well, & without the need for production investment is useless.
Most of what WE actually produce is produced for OUR consumption. And we have to buy the materials for what little we do produce form other places. We have a humongous trade deficit. There is no arguing your way out of that. We spend more than we make and the creditors are getting antsy.
Robots can do most manufacturing a lot faster and more precisely than people. That's why the number of manufacturing jobs has gone down, not the capacity.
The real reason for the trade deficit is that it isn't profitable to do business here anymore due to minimum wage laws and other regulations that have artificially raised the price of everything produced in the US. Cut the costs of doing business here and business will come back. The state can't spend its way out of debt.
@Gammaclipper Where have I heard those talking points before? Hmmmm on fox maybe? If robots took our jobs, then why are companies shipping them overseas? Don't robots labor cost the same (free) everywhere? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha.... too funny!
Actually no. While automation will always be the lower cost alternative some governments have attempted to slow automation in order to preserve assembly line knuckle-draggers' jobs by enacting unfair taxes and other penalties on automation. So there really is a difference. And not all jobs being outsourced are manufacturing, many of them are engineering and that is mostly the fault of the teachers' unions reducing the quality and quantity of education.
@Gammaclipper With that first notion, I agree. But on the outsourced jobs part I disagree. Bill Gates went to congress and asked for more visas so that he could hire indians to do the job. When asked why he said "because their is not enough skilled labor on the market". Afterwards, Microsoft fired a chunk of engineers from the US and hired more indians. Companies from the US & abroad go to 3rd world countries and educate people for pink and white collard jobs. Its strictly about profits.
@Gammaclipper Absolutely! Paying a "living wage" is like fighting with your hand tied behind your back. If that can be eliminated, the US manufacturers could bring down their labour costs and compete directly with China and Vietnam at their own game. Everybody wins! (unless you are working in said factory, of course, but that's just detail stuff).
The New Deal is a classic example of the Broken Window Fallacy.
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studentofsmith 5 months ago
ugh if only
Thespians1 1 year ago 6
hmmm somthing about jobs but further i don't get this 1
pimmivenema 1 year ago
Wow, this is close to self-parody. If I wasn't familiar with Mr Fiore's work, I would have assumed that the images of the working people were satirical hyperbole comparing modern liberal sensibilities to that of the Bolsheviks. I guess the fact that they resemble old Soviet posters was a complete accident.
Also, LOL @ private work being swapping useless pieces of paper. 'Cuz we all know that the evil white CEO's that hoard all their money also pay other white men to do nothing.
HerrSchenkel 1 year ago
the problem with this kind of plan, is that you cant give 100 people 100 shovels and build a road, it takes training to operate the heavy machinery that we use now adays.
danny114950 1 year ago
What lovely propaganda. I see now that the politicians that created this recession will be able to pick winners and spend us out and that inventors don't need investment capital, we should just grab a hammer, saw, and crowd around a computer and the magic box will provide us with anything we imagine.
Gammaclipper 1 year ago
@Gammaclipper of course!
danny114950 1 year ago
@Gammaclipper
Actually it's satire, not propaganda. Look them up on your "magic box." The point is America's economic woes are caused in part because we don't actually produce anything anymore. We've been acting like a foolish trust fund brat, spending money left and right without bringing any in and just expecting the money to always be there. Now we've broke the bank, litarally in many cases, and we have to *gasp* get jobs, jobs that actually PRODUCE something,
z3r0t0l3r4ns 1 year ago
@z3r0t0l3r4ns
This is a common misconception and one I'd really like to see put to bed. We do produce stuff, we do have a manufacturing sector. It's just cheaper to get shit built elsewhere. But even if we had no manufacturing sector we'd still have the design and management jobs.
Gammaclipper 1 year ago
@Gammaclipper Manufacture is what created our middle class, & our manufacturing sector is pathetic compared to what it once was. Also you reaganites pay to much attention to investment, it's not just the rich who invest the middle class does as well, & without the need for production investment is useless.
yellowkrux 1 year ago
@Gammaclipper Manufacture is what created our middle class, & our manufacturing sector is pathetic compared to what it once was. Also you reaganites pay to much attention to investment, it's not just the rich who invest the middle class does as well, & without the need for production investment is useless.
yellowkrux 1 year ago
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@Gammaclipper Manufacture is what created our middle class, & our manufacturing sector is pathetic compared to what it once was. Also you reaganites pay to much attention to investment, it's not just the rich who invest the middle class does as well, & without the need for production investment is useless.
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@Gammaclipper Manufacture is what created our middle class, & our manufacturing sector is pathetic compared to what it once was. Also you reaganites pay to much attention to investment, it's not just the rich who invest the middle class does as well, & without the need for production investment is useless.
yellowkrux 1 year ago
@Gammaclipper
Most of what WE actually produce is produced for OUR consumption. And we have to buy the materials for what little we do produce form other places. We have a humongous trade deficit. There is no arguing your way out of that. We spend more than we make and the creditors are getting antsy.
z3r0t0l3r4ns 1 year ago
@z3r0t0l3r4ns
Robots can do most manufacturing a lot faster and more precisely than people. That's why the number of manufacturing jobs has gone down, not the capacity.
The real reason for the trade deficit is that it isn't profitable to do business here anymore due to minimum wage laws and other regulations that have artificially raised the price of everything produced in the US. Cut the costs of doing business here and business will come back. The state can't spend its way out of debt.
Gammaclipper 1 year ago
@Gammaclipper Where have I heard those talking points before? Hmmmm on fox maybe? If robots took our jobs, then why are companies shipping them overseas? Don't robots labor cost the same (free) everywhere? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha.... too funny!
newave123456 1 year ago 2
@newave123456
Actually no. While automation will always be the lower cost alternative some governments have attempted to slow automation in order to preserve assembly line knuckle-draggers' jobs by enacting unfair taxes and other penalties on automation. So there really is a difference. And not all jobs being outsourced are manufacturing, many of them are engineering and that is mostly the fault of the teachers' unions reducing the quality and quantity of education.
Gammaclipper 1 year ago
@Gammaclipper With that first notion, I agree. But on the outsourced jobs part I disagree. Bill Gates went to congress and asked for more visas so that he could hire indians to do the job. When asked why he said "because their is not enough skilled labor on the market". Afterwards, Microsoft fired a chunk of engineers from the US and hired more indians. Companies from the US & abroad go to 3rd world countries and educate people for pink and white collard jobs. Its strictly about profits.
newave123456 1 year ago
@newave123456
Imma callin bullshit. Pics or it didn't happen.
Gammaclipper 1 year ago
@Gammaclipper Absolutely! Paying a "living wage" is like fighting with your hand tied behind your back. If that can be eliminated, the US manufacturers could bring down their labour costs and compete directly with China and Vietnam at their own game. Everybody wins! (unless you are working in said factory, of course, but that's just detail stuff).
Krys1304 1 year ago 8
Yeah, we already got the new new deal by the one. Now we HAVE Great Depresion 2.
mainestategop 2 years ago