@DoctorCapitalist i was stating a fact,not a argument.why, do you want one?atheist itself is a religion.one believes they are no god and thats belief makes it a religion.
... Dawkins, for example, vehemently defends his demonstrably FALSE theory that all life is the result of random mutation plus natural selection. (I wish I had time to make an animated thing demonstrating why his theory is utterly bogus.) There is evolution--things changing over time--but Dawkins describes only a PIECE of the MECHANISM for it. A church says "God did it," and Dawkins says "chance plus death did it." Both are bogus cop-outs, but neither wants to say "I DON'T KNOW what did it."
I must make a slight nitpick. MOST of what is termed "religion" is a bunch of people making stuff up, demanding blind faith from their target audience, and they deserve all the bashing they can get. However, while the METHOD of "science"--the pursuit of truth through application of reason to evidence--is rationality, it is often hijacked by people who also have an agenda, or a set of dogma, that they cling to based on their own emotional faith. (To be continued...)
how can you, as a philosopher, have any respect for hitchens, harris and dawkins??? they have angry little teenager's minds and all they do is argue. they aren't intellectuals. especially harris, he's just a complete certified idiot with a pedigree. no one who read their books can agree with them. if they do, they lie about having read the books. anything popular is rubbish. if people like them are the best what atheism has to offer religion will stay here forever -.-
Pointing out the lack of empirical evidence for religious views and claims is perfectly rational. The use of religion to brainwash and as a political weapon is also evil and disgusting.
The part where I have to disagree is confidently claiming "there is no God". It's like saying there is no life on other planets, or in other galaxies and solar systems. It is not anti-reason to ponder the possibility of the existence of a supreme being, or reject Darwin's version of evolution.
What an uneducated guy, No scientist can come close to the mind baffling mirecles the saints performed and the evidence is plenty. Can you explain the nonroting bodies of the saints. Get this if the bible can exzist so long and your period on this earth and then after death . boy o boy you have no idea what lies on the otherside. Which i have been and many. Get the your facts right cause you can never return from that which hell. Wait till you see a demon and now they are in space suits.
@rikky702 Non-rotting Bodies: sure, there are ways to preserve bodies. Do you think the Egyptian pharaohs were Christian saints? Their bodies are in great condition. Also, there are holy books much older than the bible. Do you believe them too?
may I call you autistic and delusional because you can't see any other picture than your own, therefore having a tiny square on the painting the world is
The Bible and the Catholic Church are at odds. It's considered the first apostasy. But anyhow, that's for another day.
Science and Religion at odds? Well, since you limited religion to what you perceive as Christianity, which is actually Christendom, you should say Science and Christendom are at odds. Or, at least: Science and the Vatican are at odds.
The Bible is closer to a history book than a science book. It is actually a book of prophecy, not science.
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Scientific dogma is not superior to religious dogma, and they are only opposites in much the same way that the political left is the opposite of the political right. As such, the mistake the presenter here makes is the same one made so many years ago by Rand: an assumption of equivalency between science and reason.
Reason is the only pursuit which is capable of producing unequivocal truth; science, which relies on instrumentation (eyes, ears, microscopes), is incapable of doing so.
Thanks for responding, but I've watched a few other of your videos and might have expected a somewhat more serious response. To be sure, we are not far apart on most things, but the vitriol presented here is damaging to the basic cause of reason and rationality.
Case in point: in other times, were I to claim the Sun to be the center of the solar system, a man might have countered me on the basis of science. Apparently though, he would have been incorrect in doing so.
@theoutlawjoseywales No, the earth-centric science never made any sense. It required a massive amount of rationalization, layer after layer of complexity to fit something that didn't work into a rational framework. The sun-centric theory was simple and clear and all of the existing evidence fit into it like a jigsaw puzzle. Unfortunately, religion fought this knowledge tooth and nail and it took many years for the truth to be allowed. That's where the vitriol comes from.
@theoutlawjoseywales sorry, but science is indeed superior to religous dogma. If you truly believe otherwise, you need to seek out unpasteurised milk, refuse modern medical treatment, cast aside the computer you wrote you comment on, your television, radio, telephone, ect. Be true to your convictions, and you will go the way of the dinosaur
i agree with your conclusion, but your argument is weak.
1) Old Testament god was quite allowed to lie, become angry, deny mercy, etc.
2) New Testament was supposed to supplant the old, and any supposed christian who follows the old when it is overriden by the new (eye for an eye => turn the other cheek) is doing it wrong.
3) Even Martin Luther smelled some of the crap the Pope was claiming 600 years ago.
4) Religion != Catholicism. While possibly promulgating nonsense, there are other much less authoritarian, anthropomorphic, closed-minded, child abusing religions.
See Jainism, Taoism, Sikhism, Buddhism, the Bahai; not that any religion is necessary or advised.
Again, assholes seeking to coerce others is the problem, not the tool they use. If a tool can be found to have no use but coercion, then warn others away from it; bashing a tool and those suffering from some uses of it just looks silly.
A tool to do What? Why use a rock when you have a nail gun? Religion is Stone & Bronze aged man's attempt to explain the world around them. Natural forces were anthropomorphized into characters in a story so simple people could understand the 'theories'. It was 'science' before Scientific Method came along. Then it got used for control and extortion. We don't still think lightning comes from Zeus being angry,or worship the sun, so why would we apply any other stone age technology to our lives?
I agree, the things that the tell the kids about the nature of the world are much more harmful than anything they could ever do to them with their dicks.
I grew up Catholic, and it has been a huge detriment to my life in a lot of ways, I feel. However, it also has taught me a few things I wouldn't know otherwise. For example, I feel that Lent is a great experience, to choose something to give up. I do it every year. It is important to not throw out everything from religion. Most of it is hogwash, but don't throw the baby out with the bath water. Rituals are as important as beliefs, and some of the rituals are enjoyable/beneficial.
I agree. I went to Catholic school, and we were taught evolution as science and told that the Book of Genesis was symbolic, not literal. Besides, "religion" breaks down between believers and mystics, or the experiential branch of most traditions. The mystics are not for blind belief or slavery to ritual.
I agree with that too, I believe that there are meaningful and potentially helpful mystical experiences, and for me, science and religion both do a poor job at explaining them. And so I agree that the mystics should not be bound to chains of religion. People should not be bound to accepting all existing science as the only thing that exists, too. Mystical experiences have meaning that is poorly interpreted by science. ...
No, religion and science don't explain the experiences; the experiences explain religion and science. But the road to high awareness starts from our ego-bound incarnation, and we need some reference points at the beginning. If you start your journey with "YOU are eternal, infinite, and Divine," all you can say is "huh?" When the priest Bede Griffiths attained enlightenment, he dressed like a Hindu monk and stopped caring about the label of "Christian." Religion, ideally is just a door. :-)
At least the Pope doesn't condemn Evolution. There are many religious nuts who do oppose evolution, and have gotten it taken out of schools. That to me is much worse than a religious nut who changes his "divine mind".
And then you cite Dawkins at us even though you've read so little of him? Goodness, please. 'The God Delusion'? A popularist book on cultural religion, sociology and philosophical theology from someone who is a layman in all those areas. If this were the height of atheism I would claim it completely irrational. Luckily I know of some intellectual atheists so I won't go that far.
As the atheist philosopher Michael Ruse put it:
"The God Delusion makes me ambarrassed to be an atheist."
Well I do think that quote adds validity to the theistic response to Dawkins. If it was only theists who thought him unacademic on philosophy then the claim of bias would be valid. Most of what I wrote was my own thoughts and I used one tiny, one sentence, quote from Ruse and you claim I "only quote other people"! It's time to recognise what the quote is saying rather than just noting it is a quote!!
And there, my friend, is your problem! "From the outside..." If you knew anything about the history of theism and Darwinism you would know that there was next to NO rejection of evolution anywhere outside of North America - and that even in America there were conservative theologians who embraced Darwinism - such as B.B. Warfield.
You, like many toher atheists, try to make up this supposed war between evolution and theism so you can make videos like this. It's a travesty to TRUTH!
I've sent you a BBC documentary on this subject. I hope that you will not just watch the first part but the whole of that programme.
Where does your hatred of theists come from? Are you really suggesting that Kant, Leibniz, Descartes, Hick, Swinburne, Plantinga ad infinitum lack reason??? Please pick a book from one of these are demonstarte such. Do fail to do so means all you're doing is rhetoric.
Arguing that god allows freewill and that all suffering comes from our sin is like saying that a parent that allows a three year old to burn his hand on a hot stove is a responsible and loving parent. It is simply ridiculous to make such an argument.
How one defines god is very important in assessing the possibility of his, her or its actual existence. Logically speaking an omniscient, omnipotent and omnibenevolent god cannot exist just as one plus one cannot equal three in mathematics. Any god that possesses infinite knowledge and infinite power and infinite love could never have allowed the universe in which we exist to come into existence or continue to exist in a state of suffering.
I have enjoyed your videos. I think you misunderstand religion. It is a moral structure not an explanation for existence. In the story "The boy who cried wolf," it is not relevant whether the boy and wolf really ever existed, or if they did miracles or anything else. What matters is that we can teach our children not to "cry wolf." The religious who try to apply the religion out of its scope are being ignorant and assinine. That is not any reason to discredit the entirely of religion.
Our minds are evolving from a religious state, that's my belief! [ :0) ]
Like, if the religious minds we still have and are, in part, had not been there, I don't imagine that the reasonable minds would have something to evolve out of.
Well, at least FDR isn't a cult based on the worship of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, as at first I feared.
also when people defend their stance against jesus most arguments are based on religious practice like catholicism they say the pope said this so it must be gods word or they have sex with boys so jesus is bad but thats the most uneducated attacks their are the bible gives us the outline of a christian life nowhere is it ok to fornicate with boys keep your arguments to the gospel of christ not what some people claiming to be christians are doing these men are being a false witness
Why does he keep referring to himself as a philosopher? Reiterating the thoughts of others does no make one a philosopher. What original thought does Stef have? Stef ridicules others who seek to fill the spiritual void in their life with religion, while he does it by bathing in his ego. Stef seems to be a sort of logical positivist. I wonder if he's read about the near death experience of Alfred Ayer, a real philosopher and ardent atheist. Also, What an absurd final comment. Absolutely absurd.
Actually, you might want to check out my free books for some original thinking, although I don't imagine you would be much interested in reason and evidence...
I am interested in reason and evidence, actually. Why would you not imagine so? How would you define reason anyway? I'll take your books and give them a chance. If you read my message you would have noticed I never claimed you didnt have original thought.
"Reiterating the thoughts of others does no make one a philosopher. What original thought does Stef have? " That surely implied that he didn't have original thoughts. Please do read his books though ^-^ They're quite wonderful.
The Bible does not speak about germs or any sanitation?
Read the 613 Laws which forbid the eating of pork (awfully unhealthy), forbid the eating of raw meat strangled with blood, WASH OUR HANDS constantly, circumcise on the 8th day (when platelet counts are HIGHEST), bathe regularly (which Europeans just recently figured out), etc., etc.
Ever wonder why the Europeans loved to blame Jews for disease? Because Jews did not get sick like our ancestors did. They were CLEAN due to the TORAH.
Circumcision is actually healthier. Health benefits include the Decrease in physical problems involving a tight foreskin, lower incidence of inflammation of the head of the penis, reduced urinary tract infections, fewer problems with erections, especially at puberty, decrease in certain sexually transmitted infections such as HIV, almost complete elimination of invasive penile cancer, and a decrease in urological problems generally.
cutting off the foreskin is mutilation the bible does talk about germs several times it says to clean a wound with running water not stagnant you sound educated what is your reason and evidence to why we are here if not christianity? can you give me another explanation? evolution, so we evolved what from? how was universe and earth made? a explosion of energy? is this not more far fetched that a master architect creating it also dont ever accept what apope says as gods word men can be corrupted
hes the beginning and the end. where did we come from? all men have freewill that means he cant stop men from doing evil things if they choose. thats the beauty of freewill and the horror. innocent babies are the lucky ones they dont have to go thru this test we call life. and all the struggles. if you love your wife but she chooses to leave you and be with another man, then one day when that other man loses everything. she wants you back, would you take her back?
1. "Where did God come from?" Who knows? I'll ask him when I get to Heaven.
2. "Why do bad things happen to good people?" Because men are fallen sinners. If mankind followed the Lord then things would be better. God's decisions for what he does are just. There is a plan. Events in someones Life isn't a coincidence.
3. Why do babies die? Because God is merciful. They are much happier than we are right now. A better question to ask is why do humans kill babies?
If your going to question God(whom I assume you don't believe in) why babies die, why don't you ask Obama why he has such a strong stand on partial birth abortion? Everyone has the right to live, but God has the right to choose whom he takes home for his glory.
4. Why does God send people to hell? We send ourselves to hell. If someone were to play all the private thoughts of your heart in front of your friends you would run away and never look back.
if god is omnipotent, and he can do whatever he wants, and has a plan, then obviously he planned to kill babies. and if god is planning to kill babies, and humans are just following his plan, then god is killing babies, through humans. so when a human kills babies, it is god's "fault" (for lack of a better word). and if everything god does is just, and he kills babies, then abortion is the work of god, and is therefore just.
You sir are quite the philospher. I don't know how God works really. Like I mentioned to you before, I'm not some big theologian. But the bible does tell us that man is fallen and left on his own he is capable of all sorts of evil. I don't have to stand up for God or myself. I respect your position. I've read alot of comment debates that get nasty and luckily I don't think we're those types of people. We look at the world differently. I look at it as a bus stop before I get home.
God didn't plan to kill babies, but he knew we would. There is none righteous(not even me). Man is depraved, we can do all sorts of good according to the world, but at the end of the day are hearts are unclean. If I knew all of the answers to the questions atheists and christians alike have than I'd be God(and the world would be in trouble,lol). Just something to think about, Don't judge God based on the hypocrisy you see in "christians" churchy phariseew. Alot of those peeps aren't even saved.
Actually you'd be surprised with science in the bible. Alot of God's commands in the Laws of Moses we're actually to keep Israel healthy. Look into it you might be surprised. Prophecy also. Iraelites are the only people that haven't lost their language, customs, or religion in a period of over 3000 years despite being driven from Israel 3 times. Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 A.D. The Jews left thier home until 1948. The bible predicted this would happen. Ever talk to a Caananite, or a Hittite?
Dunce, some of the science in the Bible wouldn't surprise any atheist. Seriously, pi = 3? And the health issue could easily be explained. If people who eat a certain diet live longer, it's not long before religious people start saying that God ordained that diet. And that last bit is an entire non-question. There's no way to know about the Canaanite or Hittite heritage of any living person, and there's no way to confirm any Israelite's connection to Abraham.
The bible was written by 44 authors in 66 books that make one volume thta matches perfectly with the story of God and his dealings with mankind. It was written by men that nobody thought God would use. It was written by prophets,kings, and fishermen. Yet they all tell the same story. The Quran was written by Mohammed, Buddha wrote his stuff, but they didn't make prophecies and get em right. I don't have religion, I have a relationship. Religion is man trying to reach to God. God reached me.
I assumed, with your opening remarks, that you had learned the scientific arguments that destroy Darwinism. I now realise now that you are just childish. Your polemic was as worthy as me declaring with the same infallibilty you are angry at God because He let you go bald.
The idiot who cited Pope Pius XII as support for Darwinism twisted his meaning. Pius remark is no more than a statement that to propose a scientific hypothesis, even if it proves to be wrong, is a valid avenue of science. These are the rantings of men imbued with worldly ideas, a result of the undermining of Catholicism which was begun at Vatican II by enemies of the Truth who are a Trojan horse within the Catholic Church. Traditional Catholics reject Darwinism, by faith, and by science.
Those spokesmen for the Catholic Church who declare that The Catholic Church did not condemn Darwinism are liars. It was condemned many times in the 19th. century by popes.
Please investigate on youtube the numerous discoveries of human antiquity which defeats all Darwin's theories, as well as Biblical ones, search for Michael Cremo and get informed.
Humans have been present on this planet for millions of years. Don't trust my word, don't trust Darwin's either, but investigate what modern day archeologist have found out. While I understand the sweetness of defeating biblical ideas which are nonsense, being so sure about darwin's ideas is equally embarrasing. thanks
For those who need a refresher course on the Darwiniac storytelling strategy, it goes like this: (1) Assume evolution. (2) Observe a fact. (3) Make up a story to fit the fact into the assumption. This is how the Darwinians get away with murder. The robust storytelling ability of the Darwinists is their most legendary trait. It provides the foundation for the entire naturalistic political/economic/legal/educational/spiritual program. Now you understand about 95% of evolutionary biology.
The catholic church is just a HUGE and far reaching psychological MAFIA that has gradually consumed the world and used a wide variety of tortures in order to 'convert' barbarians into their narrowminded view!
FUCK THEM ALL. They have ripped us away from our true natures and made us into a bunch of brainwashed slaves...
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politics and relegion..... mmm.... same aims me thinks!
saynotodarwin said "I know Darwin is false": Darwin was a man, and is therefore neither false nor true. The word you were looking for is "incorrect", and you should also use the past tense. With this level of illiteracy I'm not surprised you find it hard to grasp biology.
Don't flaunt your ignorance. Also Darwin is a man, and I think you'll agree that we have plenty of evidence for him. I think you mean the Theory of Evolution.
"this theory flies in the face of common sense" - Just because you don't understand it doesn't make it untrue. You really should try to study a subject before you comment on it.
That there is evil in the world, there is hate, and most of all there is resentment. I apologize if this is you just speaking your mind, but to me it seems your trying to force people into not believing, and thats no better than the latter
Gotta love "Freedom of Speech" but you have to expect that some people have no idea what they are talking about. Kind of like this guy who spurts obscenities from his mouth like there going out of style. I just have one question, I understand not believing, but what is the purpose in destroying faith? rather or not there is a "God" ,People need something to believe in, we live in a hard time.Takeing dreams and stomping on them only proves one thing.
Yea, I'm legaly a "child" in the U.S. and you talked about how parents make us believe in God. Well just so you know I am a nondenominational Christian and I actually was the one who brought my parents to faith, not the other way around. Also I used to love science class untill my freshman year of highschool when they litterally forced the theory of evolution on me and my class mates who the majority of call themselves atheists. Anyway if you even read these I just thought you should know that.
Since Vatican I, the official Catholic position has been that the pope is only infallible when he speaks "ex cathedra." The last time this occurred was in 1950 when Pius XII declared Mary was bodily assumed into heaven. By defining infallibility in this way, they attempt to evade the fact that they have reinvented dogma repeatedly for expediency's sake. Nevertheless, raising "infallibility" with respect to evolution, etc, gives apologists a red herring and can distract from your main argument.
The most absurd thing you said was that religion was child abuse. I have taught my 4-year old daughter to pray to Jesus whenever she has bad dreams, how is that child abuse. I teach her to never speak anything but the utter truth, because lying always brings destruction, as does all sin, how is that child abuse? I teach her that love is the highest virtue, how is that child abuse? I teach her that God holds her life in His hand, and that she has nothing to fear from evil, how is that child abuse
Your 4-year old daughter has been taught that there is an invisible man who will help her if she asks him telepathically. This is, of course, nonsense, and discovering this fact could potentially be lethal. Like the little girl who died while her parents prayed for her healing, when a simple injection would have saved her.
Those parents were murderers. You're just a child-abuser. You should be ashamed of yourself.
In 20 years the success or failure of my parenting will be obvious. You do what you must, and so shall I. But most certainly I am not ashamed of teaching my daughter to pray, as well as my sons who will soon be able to pray themselves. I think its funny you accuse me of abuse, yet you support the teaching that life is meaningless to the youngest children, then you send them for self-esteem therapy. My children have no doubt of the value of their life, and that it has purpose. Do yours?
Life most certainly is not meaningless. The absence of superstitions like "gods", "angels", "demons" etc. only makes life all the more precious. Your kids are the ones being taught that everything happening in this life is just a prelude to something far greater, so they should live in anticipation (or fear) of that rather than enjoy the one life they are sure to have.
The fact that you think life is meaningless without god says very sad things about your life. Mine is anything but meaningless.
I agree life isn't meaningless, but where does it get its meaning? The same thing that happens to a dog happens to you - death. If there is no God to give life meaning what is the difference between you and anything else? Chance cannot give meaning. You take pride in your achievements, but who will remember in 100 years? And if evolution be true, one thing for certain we can assume, that all memory of our existence will be wiped out eventually. My life has meaning, because its art from an artist
I'm sorry, but I fail to see your point. My life has meaning to me, personally. And frankly, I couldn't really care less whether or not it will have meaning to anyone in a hundred years, by that time I'll be dead anyway, as will you, so what does it matter?
The difference between me and, say, a dog, is that I can think about this. Other than that, there is none. And I don't see how that's relevant.
"evolution's a fact" LOL. NOW THAT'S NOT AN AMBIGUOUS STATEMENT -- even forgetting for a moment that we're talking about the "theory" of evolution, here. clearly it's wrong or lacks being either somewhere along the line... note that this is the scientific community itself that must / is calling it a a theory... apparently they're not as confident as the cattle on the Net.
"This may merely indicate, as it does in the sciences, that the theory was arrived at using _potentially faulty inferences_ (scientific induction) _as opposed to the necessary inferences_ used in mathematical proofs"
Wow, you got me there! Let's play the semantics game and see how convoluted we can become to hide our bullshit! Potentially faulty inferences = let's accept it without question. Congratulations, genius!
Can't say I've met or seen a moderate Christian (the vast majority) child who was rendered fearful via the religion, except maybe on TV in those extreme (rare) circumstances that we are aware of. For you life is not meaningless, but what have you to offer children in this regard? Have you ever offered them anything to this end? Your conclusion of what someone else teaches is you making assumptions and generalizations, both about the teahcer and the student; your conclusion here is one of (cont.)
I don't know whether the "typical christian child" lives in fear of hellfire or not. I know I did, but that's hardly the issue either.
Moderates form the powerbase for the nutters, is the long and short of it. And anyone teaching their child superstitious nonsense about "gods", "heaven", "hell", and other bullshit like that should be ashamed of themselves.
The nutters? You mean that one inbred family that kept getting on the news? Ya they're going to take over any time now. Again the sensationalist angle is just so pathetic.
Why should these [moderate] people be ashamed of themselves for teaching these things?
i can easily reply by saying they're technically not lies because the parents themselves believe in these things. a parent should be ashamed of themselves for lying to their child regardless of how big or how small the lie is and regardless of reason? i love the black / white thinking you constantly express... really applicable stuff in reality & i'm REALLY surprised you don't have kids.
What's up with all these Christian moderate kids living happily ever after? Shouldn't they all be in mental asylums for the evils done unto them by their parents? And it's funny that you say "parents" when it's typically not the parents who do this teaching in the first place... another decent example of you talking out of your ass.
sensationalism and obvious ignorance, because again, the typical Christian child doesn't "live in fear", just like the typical child in general, regardless of race or creed. This line of thinking shows a clear disconnect from reality and a desire to leverage the usual bullshit sensationalism to get bullshit points across.
"and discovering this fact could potentially be lethal" HAHAHAH. Wow, let me counter with my own sensationalism... or not. Could you be any more lame? Your supporting example is insanely circumstantial and rare... it's about as useful to your point as someone telling someone not to eat ice cream because it's possible that it'll be tainted with AIDS. Then you who appears to be a nice person and parent, as someone who obviously isn't a parent himself, tht thyr a chld abuser&thtthyshdbashamed.Idiot
the first flaw in your post assumes jesus dying on the cross was a bad thing therefore fault must be assumed jesus did die for our sins but it was not somethng he didnt want to do it was his ultimate love for us and he was our saving grace he would do it again if he had too thats the ultimate love and selflessness and their are plenty of people that dont believe in jesus who maintain their blood when they sleep lol god gave us freewill so we can choose our faith
Dawkins is a biologist, Stef is a politcal/economics philosopher. Leave the theology to us believers, unless you want to educate yourself a little more thoroughly in theology. They are all different methods of apprehending the truth and we all disagree with those whose speciality we do not share.
Your abusive rhetoric is more like a sophist of ancient Greece than a philosopher (lover of wisdom or knowledge). The Bible has very useful commands about hygiene that were thousands of years before the rest of the world- hand washing, pooping in a hole, quarantining the infectious, circumcision, etc. The mere fact of the Jewish race, shows the value of the Mosaic law. Even the NT gives hints about bacteria, viruses, and nuclear weapons. Isaiah predicts by name the conqueror of Babylon.
Alexander the Great, upon coming to Jerusalem, is told the prophecies in Daniel which predict hundreds of years in advance the rise of Greece. He was so impressed by the empirical truth of the scriptures he worshipped the God of Israel in the Temple. You can show the folly of the papacy, but I challenge you to level specific criticisms of the Bible. Even your affection for capitalism is in the Bible, examine the pre-monarchy days of Israel, everything was based on unrestricted trade, no statism.
10 seconds, a droplet of soap & a little water per bath / shower, or traumatizing surgery on a defenseless child + 1 human rights violation: You decide.
I am pretty new to your channel... but, one of these days I am sure I will find something to disagree with you on. Though, it will probably be only after one of us become old and senile... and that will probably be me.
I'm telling you, the Vatican has the 3rd Testament ready waiting in the draw, just in case some ET decides to say hello! They will twist and turn everything to match their Vodoo.... nothing has changed, it's always the same!
Information is Information, neither matter nor energy. No materialism that fails to take account of this can survive the present day. -Norbert Weiner, MIT Mathematician and Father of Cybernetics
>Do you actually know something that science doesn't?
Science knows DNA was designed (and we didn't do it) but atheists can't bring themselves to admit it because they can't allow a divine foot in the door. So they spend their time telling bullshit fairy tales and fabricating evidence. I'm sick of it.
**"DNA was designed"** ATCG, Dionysus. It's chemistry. The bases perform as they do necessarily. No magic required. If science "knew" anything such as what you claim, then "intelligent design" would not be the laughing stock of the bio-science world. Of course, you can always submit for peer-review if you disagree. Refutations galore: ...on YT watch?v=rtmbcfb_rdc watch?v=v8nYTJf62sE watch?v=YXfIop5ZOsY ...elsewhere tuibguy . com/?p=845 toarchive . org/indexcc/CB/CB180 . html Google=good.
When the structure of the DNA molecule is examined, it's revealed that there are no chemical bonds between the nucleotide bases that run along the sugar-phosphate backbone of the helix, and it is precisely along this axis of the molecule that the genetic instructions in DNA are encoded. Further each of the four bases A, T, G, and C attach to any site on the DNA backbone with equal facility, making all sequences equally probable (or improbable), and the same type of chemical bond...
... occurs between the bases and the backbone regardless of which base attaches. All four bases are acceptable; none is preferred. In other words, differential bonding affinities do not account for the sequencing of the bases. Thus, it can be said with a high degree of confidence that DNA did not originate naturally.
There's nothing in the bible about porn or t'internet either. :)
I would like to add.....Upon the fall of the ROMAN empire we had, spewing forth across Europe....The ROMAN catholic religion.......It seems like someone had a very cunning plan.
It was a damned good plan too......worked a treat, didn't it ;o)
I find it odd that someone who confesses to pursue truth can say 'there is no god'. How can someone of virtue close their mind to the possibilities.
For sure, the bible is BS but when you stand and look at a sunset, or the night sky or even your growing, beautiful daughter do you not feel a sense of being part of something more, something greater than yourself.
Maybe I just struggle to understand the mind set of an Athiest.
Do you actually know something that science doesn't? :)
A small pedantic detail: evolution was already an observable fact by Darwin's time (a fact made evident by the fossils discovered in coal mines), what Darwin proposed was "natural selection" as the mechanism by which evolution occured. Before that, people believed that evolution was caused by God. The only vocal group who don't believe in evolution is a tiny group of extreme fundamentalists.
Evolution and God squad mix as well as oil and vinegar...or better!
Business has no room for ethics and for ruthless players nothing happens without a ruthless plan. Using virus and flu propaganda, big pharma makes big money injecting vaccines into evolutionists. The Vatican, being a huge investor, would see a huge increase in profits if they could inject creationists too. How could they possibly accomplish that? They would have to adopt evolution. Hmmm... when did they first adopt evolution?
If they even remotely accept Darwin's Theory does that not throw their fair tale of Adam and Eve entirely out the door? Or are they only accepting the theory when it's applied to all other living creatures? At what point do these believers realize that if they've been naive about several things and maybe they should question this entire preposterous facade for maintaining wealth and power?
That's just like saying with their being 6.7 Billion people on this planet, what are the odds that your parents combined to make you? Those odds are in the hundred billions, but yet it seems like you're here.
Probability doesn't mean anything. Given enough time even monkeys can write Shakespeare.
Catholicism lost its way in trying to reach the masses. Catholicism has added things to appease and convert. holy mother and the saints was for the pagans. I don't consider Catholicism to be Christianity, it is more like Islam than anything. I think it is folly to reject God because of the sort comings of man. I believe in God, but I also believe in evolution, and the big bang.
Absolutely spot on as usual. Great delivery, burning truth. I sometimes get a glimpse that maybe things are starting to change... if more and more people start to see the light through the funny clothes and incense...
I'm sorry, but this video is riddled with things that are of questionable validity if you actually seek to debate things rationally as you claim. If you are going to attack a philosophy or religion, attack its actual tenets, not its followers or those who -claim- to be its representatives. You attack the Bible, not on the basis of what it does contain, but based on what it does not. On a separate note, how much of a background do you have in science, Stef?
I don't disagree with you on almost all of your views on religion and science. However, remember science isn't perfect and has been manipulated many times by using money. Just look into the 'science' behind the global warming theory and how much the real evidence showing terrible health problems caused by genetically modified products has been suppressed.
if they was no God then they wouldnt be any atheist.
davymatheny 2 months ago
@davymatheny What kind of logic is that?
DoctorCapitalist 2 months ago
@DoctorCapitalist think about it.
davymatheny 2 months ago
@davymatheny "Think about it"
Oh, so you have no real argument or reasoning behind your statement...lol
DoctorCapitalist 2 months ago
@DoctorCapitalist i was stating a fact,not a argument.why, do you want one?atheist itself is a religion.one believes they are no god and thats belief makes it a religion.
davymatheny 2 months ago
@davymatheny Is baldness a hairstyle?
Is a lack of belief in leprechauns a superstition?
DoctorCapitalist 2 months ago
@davymatheny Is refusing to accept gravity science?
DoctorCapitalist 2 months ago
@DoctorCapitalist can stupid remain stupid? can a atheist be scared of death?
davymatheny 2 months ago
@davymatheny Wat?
DoctorCapitalist 2 months ago
good video stef
genghisdon1 3 months ago
... Dawkins, for example, vehemently defends his demonstrably FALSE theory that all life is the result of random mutation plus natural selection. (I wish I had time to make an animated thing demonstrating why his theory is utterly bogus.) There is evolution--things changing over time--but Dawkins describes only a PIECE of the MECHANISM for it. A church says "God did it," and Dawkins says "chance plus death did it." Both are bogus cop-outs, but neither wants to say "I DON'T KNOW what did it."
LarkenRose 8 months ago
I must make a slight nitpick. MOST of what is termed "religion" is a bunch of people making stuff up, demanding blind faith from their target audience, and they deserve all the bashing they can get. However, while the METHOD of "science"--the pursuit of truth through application of reason to evidence--is rationality, it is often hijacked by people who also have an agenda, or a set of dogma, that they cling to based on their own emotional faith. (To be continued...)
LarkenRose 8 months ago
how can you, as a philosopher, have any respect for hitchens, harris and dawkins??? they have angry little teenager's minds and all they do is argue. they aren't intellectuals. especially harris, he's just a complete certified idiot with a pedigree. no one who read their books can agree with them. if they do, they lie about having read the books. anything popular is rubbish. if people like them are the best what atheism has to offer religion will stay here forever -.-
kmica2008 8 months ago
Tell us how you really feel Stef. What I hate about you is that I have to drag your opinion out off you.
dooglio 9 months ago
hey, don't knock child abusing ass clown fairy tales!
alistairproductions 11 months ago
Pointing out the lack of empirical evidence for religious views and claims is perfectly rational. The use of religion to brainwash and as a political weapon is also evil and disgusting.
The part where I have to disagree is confidently claiming "there is no God". It's like saying there is no life on other planets, or in other galaxies and solar systems. It is not anti-reason to ponder the possibility of the existence of a supreme being, or reject Darwin's version of evolution.
TSMPimpDaddyPain 11 months ago
What an uneducated guy, No scientist can come close to the mind baffling mirecles the saints performed and the evidence is plenty. Can you explain the nonroting bodies of the saints. Get this if the bible can exzist so long and your period on this earth and then after death . boy o boy you have no idea what lies on the otherside. Which i have been and many. Get the your facts right cause you can never return from that which hell. Wait till you see a demon and now they are in space suits.
rikky702 1 year ago
@rikky702 Non-rotting Bodies: sure, there are ways to preserve bodies. Do you think the Egyptian pharaohs were Christian saints? Their bodies are in great condition. Also, there are holy books much older than the bible. Do you believe them too?
TreachMarkets 1 year ago
Right on! You're totally correct on everything you presented in this video. Kudos! You are totally speaking the truth.
UnholyMB 1 year ago
may I call you autistic and delusional because you can't see any other picture than your own, therefore having a tiny square on the painting the world is
stewylolol 1 year ago
The Bible and the Catholic Church are at odds. It's considered the first apostasy. But anyhow, that's for another day.
Science and Religion at odds? Well, since you limited religion to what you perceive as Christianity, which is actually Christendom, you should say Science and Christendom are at odds. Or, at least: Science and the Vatican are at odds.
The Bible is closer to a history book than a science book. It is actually a book of prophecy, not science.
TigronX 2 years ago
False history, inerrant facts and fairy tales actually.
judaserebus 1 year ago
@TigronX
Religion: find a conclusion in an ancient holy book and then look for facts to support the conclusion.
Science: Collect all of the facts and then try to come up a conclusion based on the facts.
TreachMarkets 1 year ago
I like the way this guy explains things :DD
Dyais 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Scientific dogma is not superior to religious dogma, and they are only opposites in much the same way that the political left is the opposite of the political right. As such, the mistake the presenter here makes is the same one made so many years ago by Rand: an assumption of equivalency between science and reason.
Reason is the only pursuit which is capable of producing unequivocal truth; science, which relies on instrumentation (eyes, ears, microscopes), is incapable of doing so.
theoutlawjoseywales 2 years ago
...yet you rely on my eyes to read your argument... :)
stefbot 2 years ago 5
Thanks for responding, but I've watched a few other of your videos and might have expected a somewhat more serious response. To be sure, we are not far apart on most things, but the vitriol presented here is damaging to the basic cause of reason and rationality.
Case in point: in other times, were I to claim the Sun to be the center of the solar system, a man might have countered me on the basis of science. Apparently though, he would have been incorrect in doing so.
Do you see my point?
theoutlawjoseywales 2 years ago
@theoutlawjoseywales No, the earth-centric science never made any sense. It required a massive amount of rationalization, layer after layer of complexity to fit something that didn't work into a rational framework. The sun-centric theory was simple and clear and all of the existing evidence fit into it like a jigsaw puzzle. Unfortunately, religion fought this knowledge tooth and nail and it took many years for the truth to be allowed. That's where the vitriol comes from.
TreachMarkets 1 year ago
have it your way, Descartes
I'll be running protein folding simulations so cancer and hereditary diseases can be cured
odenskrigare 2 years ago 3
@theoutlawjoseywales sorry, but science is indeed superior to religous dogma. If you truly believe otherwise, you need to seek out unpasteurised milk, refuse modern medical treatment, cast aside the computer you wrote you comment on, your television, radio, telephone, ect. Be true to your convictions, and you will go the way of the dinosaur
genghisdon1 3 months ago
Finally another atheist freedom lover.
landofthefreemyass 2 years ago
i agree with your conclusion, but your argument is weak.
1) Old Testament god was quite allowed to lie, become angry, deny mercy, etc.
2) New Testament was supposed to supplant the old, and any supposed christian who follows the old when it is overriden by the new (eye for an eye => turn the other cheek) is doing it wrong.
3) Even Martin Luther smelled some of the crap the Pope was claiming 600 years ago.
contriver 2 years ago
4) Religion != Catholicism. While possibly promulgating nonsense, there are other much less authoritarian, anthropomorphic, closed-minded, child abusing religions.
See Jainism, Taoism, Sikhism, Buddhism, the Bahai; not that any religion is necessary or advised.
Again, assholes seeking to coerce others is the problem, not the tool they use. If a tool can be found to have no use but coercion, then warn others away from it; bashing a tool and those suffering from some uses of it just looks silly.
contriver 2 years ago
A tool to do What? Why use a rock when you have a nail gun? Religion is Stone & Bronze aged man's attempt to explain the world around them. Natural forces were anthropomorphized into characters in a story so simple people could understand the 'theories'. It was 'science' before Scientific Method came along. Then it got used for control and extortion. We don't still think lightning comes from Zeus being angry,or worship the sun, so why would we apply any other stone age technology to our lives?
kingofthebrittains 2 years ago
I agree, the things that the tell the kids about the nature of the world are much more harmful than anything they could ever do to them with their dicks.
Robinsonero 2 years ago
"Faith, which really is just bigotry with a halo."
AHAHAHA! Thanks, that made me laugh.
Damn I have to remember that joke.
diotecktec2 2 years ago
I grew up Catholic, and it has been a huge detriment to my life in a lot of ways, I feel. However, it also has taught me a few things I wouldn't know otherwise. For example, I feel that Lent is a great experience, to choose something to give up. I do it every year. It is important to not throw out everything from religion. Most of it is hogwash, but don't throw the baby out with the bath water. Rituals are as important as beliefs, and some of the rituals are enjoyable/beneficial.
luckyodeler 2 years ago
I agree. I went to Catholic school, and we were taught evolution as science and told that the Book of Genesis was symbolic, not literal. Besides, "religion" breaks down between believers and mystics, or the experiential branch of most traditions. The mystics are not for blind belief or slavery to ritual.
hollywoodartchick 2 years ago
I agree with that too, I believe that there are meaningful and potentially helpful mystical experiences, and for me, science and religion both do a poor job at explaining them. And so I agree that the mystics should not be bound to chains of religion. People should not be bound to accepting all existing science as the only thing that exists, too. Mystical experiences have meaning that is poorly interpreted by science. ...
luckyodeler 2 years ago
No, religion and science don't explain the experiences; the experiences explain religion and science. But the road to high awareness starts from our ego-bound incarnation, and we need some reference points at the beginning. If you start your journey with "YOU are eternal, infinite, and Divine," all you can say is "huh?" When the priest Bede Griffiths attained enlightenment, he dressed like a Hindu monk and stopped caring about the label of "Christian." Religion, ideally is just a door. :-)
hollywoodartchick 2 years ago
At least the Pope doesn't condemn Evolution. There are many religious nuts who do oppose evolution, and have gotten it taken out of schools. That to me is much worse than a religious nut who changes his "divine mind".
luckyodeler 2 years ago
And then you cite Dawkins at us even though you've read so little of him? Goodness, please. 'The God Delusion'? A popularist book on cultural religion, sociology and philosophical theology from someone who is a layman in all those areas. If this were the height of atheism I would claim it completely irrational. Luckily I know of some intellectual atheists so I won't go that far.
As the atheist philosopher Michael Ruse put it:
"The God Delusion makes me ambarrassed to be an atheist."
dooyeweerd 2 years ago
I wonder why you only quote other people, and never your own thoughts or arguments, do you not have any?
stefbot 2 years ago 2
Well I do think that quote adds validity to the theistic response to Dawkins. If it was only theists who thought him unacademic on philosophy then the claim of bias would be valid. Most of what I wrote was my own thoughts and I used one tiny, one sentence, quote from Ruse and you claim I "only quote other people"! It's time to recognise what the quote is saying rather than just noting it is a quote!!
dooyeweerd 2 years ago
So what did you think about the Conor Cunningham BBC documentary?
dooyeweerd 2 years ago
And there, my friend, is your problem! "From the outside..." If you knew anything about the history of theism and Darwinism you would know that there was next to NO rejection of evolution anywhere outside of North America - and that even in America there were conservative theologians who embraced Darwinism - such as B.B. Warfield.
You, like many toher atheists, try to make up this supposed war between evolution and theism so you can make videos like this. It's a travesty to TRUTH!
dooyeweerd 2 years ago
I've sent you a BBC documentary on this subject. I hope that you will not just watch the first part but the whole of that programme.
Where does your hatred of theists come from? Are you really suggesting that Kant, Leibniz, Descartes, Hick, Swinburne, Plantinga ad infinitum lack reason??? Please pick a book from one of these are demonstarte such. Do fail to do so means all you're doing is rhetoric.
dooyeweerd 2 years ago
lol.... pope has the keys of heaven and plugged into the heaven matrix under the funny hat.....hahahaha im right there with ya buddy
ekaye86 2 years ago
Arguing that god allows freewill and that all suffering comes from our sin is like saying that a parent that allows a three year old to burn his hand on a hot stove is a responsible and loving parent. It is simply ridiculous to make such an argument.
alphabutch 2 years ago
How one defines god is very important in assessing the possibility of his, her or its actual existence. Logically speaking an omniscient, omnipotent and omnibenevolent god cannot exist just as one plus one cannot equal three in mathematics. Any god that possesses infinite knowledge and infinite power and infinite love could never have allowed the universe in which we exist to come into existence or continue to exist in a state of suffering.
alphabutch 2 years ago
I have enjoyed your videos. I think you misunderstand religion. It is a moral structure not an explanation for existence. In the story "The boy who cried wolf," it is not relevant whether the boy and wolf really ever existed, or if they did miracles or anything else. What matters is that we can teach our children not to "cry wolf." The religious who try to apply the religion out of its scope are being ignorant and assinine. That is not any reason to discredit the entirely of religion.
rswoods7 2 years ago
Religious people are very sensitive about their beliefs. Like a child protecting the sensibilities of an imaginary friend.
alfonsocrow13 2 years ago
To quote Frank Drebin--"I love it"--Watching this only once is not enough--pure genius--VERY educational.
hunga224 2 years ago
Our minds are evolving from a religious state, that's my belief! [ :0) ]
Like, if the religious minds we still have and are, in part, had not been there, I don't imagine that the reasonable minds would have something to evolve out of.
Well, at least FDR isn't a cult based on the worship of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, as at first I feared.
redkeithh 2 years ago
That very last sentence would a remarkable topic in itself!
primelimelite 2 years ago
Uh - guh - stin
St. Augustine.
Theologica37 2 years ago
That was AMAZING
It made me very happy :]
CrimsonUnderstanding 2 years ago
also when people defend their stance against jesus most arguments are based on religious practice like catholicism they say the pope said this so it must be gods word or they have sex with boys so jesus is bad but thats the most uneducated attacks their are the bible gives us the outline of a christian life nowhere is it ok to fornicate with boys keep your arguments to the gospel of christ not what some people claiming to be christians are doing these men are being a false witness
timlachance25 2 years ago
"science and religion are at odds in the same way that intelligence and stupidity are at odds"
Ha! So, tell me how you really feel, Stefan
(understanding that when I say 'feel' I am also meaning, rationally conclude, the latter to supercede the former in any argument)
I love it. Thank you for this as for each and every post, podcast, book, website, etc...
origin47 2 years ago
Why does he keep referring to himself as a philosopher? Reiterating the thoughts of others does no make one a philosopher. What original thought does Stef have? Stef ridicules others who seek to fill the spiritual void in their life with religion, while he does it by bathing in his ego. Stef seems to be a sort of logical positivist. I wonder if he's read about the near death experience of Alfred Ayer, a real philosopher and ardent atheist. Also, What an absurd final comment. Absolutely absurd.
tarakeohan 2 years ago
Actually, you might want to check out my free books for some original thinking, although I don't imagine you would be much interested in reason and evidence...
stefbot 2 years ago
I am interested in reason and evidence, actually. Why would you not imagine so? How would you define reason anyway? I'll take your books and give them a chance. If you read my message you would have noticed I never claimed you didnt have original thought.
tarakeohan 2 years ago
"Reiterating the thoughts of others does no make one a philosopher. What original thought does Stef have? " That surely implied that he didn't have original thoughts. Please do read his books though ^-^ They're quite wonderful.
CrimsonUnderstanding 2 years ago
I got an email one time that showed how genesis was a metaphor for evolution of man. Does anyone know about that email or article or whatever it was?
Lukaran 2 years ago
The bible always mentions CLEANLINESS
PravoslavnaOhridska 2 years ago
The Bible does not speak about germs or any sanitation?
Read the 613 Laws which forbid the eating of pork (awfully unhealthy), forbid the eating of raw meat strangled with blood, WASH OUR HANDS constantly, circumcise on the 8th day (when platelet counts are HIGHEST), bathe regularly (which Europeans just recently figured out), etc., etc.
Ever wonder why the Europeans loved to blame Jews for disease? Because Jews did not get sick like our ancestors did. They were CLEAN due to the TORAH.
BrotherMurray 2 years ago
You are referring to the sexual mutilation of infant boys?
stefbot 2 years ago
Circumcision is actually healthier. Health benefits include the Decrease in physical problems involving a tight foreskin, lower incidence of inflammation of the head of the penis, reduced urinary tract infections, fewer problems with erections, especially at puberty, decrease in certain sexually transmitted infections such as HIV, almost complete elimination of invasive penile cancer, and a decrease in urological problems generally.
You define that as mutilation?
BrotherMurray 2 years ago
Could have something to do with the fact that circumcision is mutilation of the genitals.
stormcrow1618 2 years ago
cutting off the foreskin is mutilation the bible does talk about germs several times it says to clean a wound with running water not stagnant you sound educated what is your reason and evidence to why we are here if not christianity? can you give me another explanation? evolution, so we evolved what from? how was universe and earth made? a explosion of energy? is this not more far fetched that a master architect creating it also dont ever accept what apope says as gods word men can be corrupted
timlachance25 2 years ago
where did god come from?
why does he let terrible things happen to good people?
why does he let innocent babies die?
why does he love us all but will punish us for an eternity if we disobey him?
nhmllr725 2 years ago
hes the beginning and the end. where did we come from? all men have freewill that means he cant stop men from doing evil things if they choose. thats the beauty of freewill and the horror. innocent babies are the lucky ones they dont have to go thru this test we call life. and all the struggles. if you love your wife but she chooses to leave you and be with another man, then one day when that other man loses everything. she wants you back, would you take her back?
timlachance25 2 years ago
1. "Where did God come from?" Who knows? I'll ask him when I get to Heaven.
2. "Why do bad things happen to good people?" Because men are fallen sinners. If mankind followed the Lord then things would be better. God's decisions for what he does are just. There is a plan. Events in someones Life isn't a coincidence.
3. Why do babies die? Because God is merciful. They are much happier than we are right now. A better question to ask is why do humans kill babies?
dunceyourself 2 years ago
If your going to question God(whom I assume you don't believe in) why babies die, why don't you ask Obama why he has such a strong stand on partial birth abortion? Everyone has the right to live, but God has the right to choose whom he takes home for his glory.
4. Why does God send people to hell? We send ourselves to hell. If someone were to play all the private thoughts of your heart in front of your friends you would run away and never look back.
dunceyourself 2 years ago
if god is omnipotent, and he can do whatever he wants, and has a plan, then obviously he planned to kill babies. and if god is planning to kill babies, and humans are just following his plan, then god is killing babies, through humans. so when a human kills babies, it is god's "fault" (for lack of a better word). and if everything god does is just, and he kills babies, then abortion is the work of god, and is therefore just.
nhmllr725 2 years ago
You sir are quite the philospher. I don't know how God works really. Like I mentioned to you before, I'm not some big theologian. But the bible does tell us that man is fallen and left on his own he is capable of all sorts of evil. I don't have to stand up for God or myself. I respect your position. I've read alot of comment debates that get nasty and luckily I don't think we're those types of people. We look at the world differently. I look at it as a bus stop before I get home.
dunceyourself 2 years ago
God didn't plan to kill babies, but he knew we would. There is none righteous(not even me). Man is depraved, we can do all sorts of good according to the world, but at the end of the day are hearts are unclean. If I knew all of the answers to the questions atheists and christians alike have than I'd be God(and the world would be in trouble,lol). Just something to think about, Don't judge God based on the hypocrisy you see in "christians" churchy phariseew. Alot of those peeps aren't even saved.
dunceyourself 2 years ago
As far as the bible goes, circumcision seems pretty reasonable.
It's sorta like an optional amputation,
and there's no medical downside to it.
Obviously the guys that came up with it didn't know that,
but the bible isn't 100% wrong.
Just the religious parts.
;)
nhmllr725 2 years ago
Actually you'd be surprised with science in the bible. Alot of God's commands in the Laws of Moses we're actually to keep Israel healthy. Look into it you might be surprised. Prophecy also. Iraelites are the only people that haven't lost their language, customs, or religion in a period of over 3000 years despite being driven from Israel 3 times. Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 A.D. The Jews left thier home until 1948. The bible predicted this would happen. Ever talk to a Caananite, or a Hittite?
dunceyourself 2 years ago
Dunce, some of the science in the Bible wouldn't surprise any atheist. Seriously, pi = 3? And the health issue could easily be explained. If people who eat a certain diet live longer, it's not long before religious people start saying that God ordained that diet. And that last bit is an entire non-question. There's no way to know about the Canaanite or Hittite heritage of any living person, and there's no way to confirm any Israelite's connection to Abraham.
sapientiamagna 2 years ago
The bible was written by 44 authors in 66 books that make one volume thta matches perfectly with the story of God and his dealings with mankind. It was written by men that nobody thought God would use. It was written by prophets,kings, and fishermen. Yet they all tell the same story. The Quran was written by Mohammed, Buddha wrote his stuff, but they didn't make prophecies and get em right. I don't have religion, I have a relationship. Religion is man trying to reach to God. God reached me.
dunceyourself 2 years ago
So wait, what does the Vatican have to do with the God of the Bible?
Prove that the Vatican worships the God of the Bible according to his Word, obedient to his word, and I will admit that this is actually relevant.
Faith is bigotry with a halo? So when I was healed, it was by bigotry? Are you serious?
BrotherMurray 2 years ago
nice work.
RedlineMMA 2 years ago
You'd better look into the camera while you speak.
You may have had an interesting speech, but I kept on realizing you were not addressing me.
meakhbar 2 years ago
Seems that the phone and radio are wasted on you then :)
dinkolino2 2 years ago
@dinkolino2
This is video, right? I just said he is not using it right.
It would have been good as a radio broadcast. I had
no intention of insulting anyone.
meakhbar 2 years ago
im not being serious :).
dinkolino2 2 years ago
I assumed, with your opening remarks, that you had learned the scientific arguments that destroy Darwinism. I now realise now that you are just childish. Your polemic was as worthy as me declaring with the same infallibilty you are angry at God because He let you go bald.
robhaidheuch 2 years ago
The idiot who cited Pope Pius XII as support for Darwinism twisted his meaning. Pius remark is no more than a statement that to propose a scientific hypothesis, even if it proves to be wrong, is a valid avenue of science. These are the rantings of men imbued with worldly ideas, a result of the undermining of Catholicism which was begun at Vatican II by enemies of the Truth who are a Trojan horse within the Catholic Church. Traditional Catholics reject Darwinism, by faith, and by science.
robhaidheuch 2 years ago
Those spokesmen for the Catholic Church who declare that The Catholic Church did not condemn Darwinism are liars. It was condemned many times in the 19th. century by popes.
robhaidheuch 2 years ago
Please investigate on youtube the numerous discoveries of human antiquity which defeats all Darwin's theories, as well as Biblical ones, search for Michael Cremo and get informed.
Humans have been present on this planet for millions of years. Don't trust my word, don't trust Darwin's either, but investigate what modern day archeologist have found out. While I understand the sweetness of defeating biblical ideas which are nonsense, being so sure about darwin's ideas is equally embarrasing. thanks
kakudmi 2 years ago
I prayed for you...
FriendOrFoe7 2 years ago
I guess it didn't work, because there is no one there...
stefbot 2 years ago
I preyed for you and I preyed for Portia de Rossi. I didn't get either, I want the money I put in the collection plate back!
newperve 2 years ago
Wrong, my friend.
YOU are wasting your life.
SuperHimself90 2 years ago
VERY STRONG end to a good video. Well done.
sevlevboss 2 years ago
I would like to know your opinion about the apocrypha.
Antilli 2 years ago
For those who need a refresher course on the Darwiniac storytelling strategy, it goes like this: (1) Assume evolution. (2) Observe a fact. (3) Make up a story to fit the fact into the assumption. This is how the Darwinians get away with murder. The robust storytelling ability of the Darwinists is their most legendary trait. It provides the foundation for the entire naturalistic political/economic/legal/educational/spiritual program. Now you understand about 95% of evolutionary biology.
DionysusAlS 2 years ago
The catholic church is just a HUGE and far reaching psychological MAFIA that has gradually consumed the world and used a wide variety of tortures in order to 'convert' barbarians into their narrowminded view!
FUCK THEM ALL. They have ripped us away from our true natures and made us into a bunch of brainwashed slaves...
mmm
politics and relegion..... mmm.... same aims me thinks!
CelticReject 2 years ago
stef, make a video on your ideas bout the 2012 fiasco
fucitorfiteit 2 years ago
I enjoy downloading your neurons via the internet. Keep up the work.
My thoughts exactly were in align with yours even prior to watching. But great to have external reassurance. 5 stars.
chardoc89 2 years ago
saynotodarwin said "I know Darwin is false": Darwin was a man, and is therefore neither false nor true. The word you were looking for is "incorrect", and you should also use the past tense. With this level of illiteracy I'm not surprised you find it hard to grasp biology.
dave28lax 2 years ago 2
"there has never been any evidence for Darwin"
Don't flaunt your ignorance. Also Darwin is a man, and I think you'll agree that we have plenty of evidence for him. I think you mean the Theory of Evolution.
"this theory flies in the face of common sense" - Just because you don't understand it doesn't make it untrue. You really should try to study a subject before you comment on it.
dave28lax 2 years ago
There has been. Also, please talk Evolution, not Darwin. Darwin lived 150 years ago and his theory has since then taken off with tons of evidence. ;)
RDissonant 2 years ago 2
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frateradrastus 2 years ago
That there is evil in the world, there is hate, and most of all there is resentment. I apologize if this is you just speaking your mind, but to me it seems your trying to force people into not believing, and thats no better than the latter
rogerdabadge82 2 years ago
Gotta love "Freedom of Speech" but you have to expect that some people have no idea what they are talking about. Kind of like this guy who spurts obscenities from his mouth like there going out of style. I just have one question, I understand not believing, but what is the purpose in destroying faith? rather or not there is a "God" ,People need something to believe in, we live in a hard time.Takeing dreams and stomping on them only proves one thing.
rogerdabadge82 2 years ago
Yea, I'm legaly a "child" in the U.S. and you talked about how parents make us believe in God. Well just so you know I am a nondenominational Christian and I actually was the one who brought my parents to faith, not the other way around. Also I used to love science class untill my freshman year of highschool when they litterally forced the theory of evolution on me and my class mates who the majority of call themselves atheists. Anyway if you even read these I just thought you should know that.
BenJaminLongTime 2 years ago
If there is a god that 'flip - flops' he's taking the piss out of us. Lets rebel against him!
JuSdAt 2 years ago
Wow. Don't we get angry about this stuff? Fascinating.
feelmdmagood 2 years ago
This guy's sounds and looks like a douche!
goebels99 2 years ago 2
Since Vatican I, the official Catholic position has been that the pope is only infallible when he speaks "ex cathedra." The last time this occurred was in 1950 when Pius XII declared Mary was bodily assumed into heaven. By defining infallibility in this way, they attempt to evade the fact that they have reinvented dogma repeatedly for expediency's sake. Nevertheless, raising "infallibility" with respect to evolution, etc, gives apologists a red herring and can distract from your main argument.
encolpius01 2 years ago
The most absurd thing you said was that religion was child abuse. I have taught my 4-year old daughter to pray to Jesus whenever she has bad dreams, how is that child abuse. I teach her to never speak anything but the utter truth, because lying always brings destruction, as does all sin, how is that child abuse? I teach her that love is the highest virtue, how is that child abuse? I teach her that God holds her life in His hand, and that she has nothing to fear from evil, how is that child abuse
nathanjonessr 2 years ago
Your 4-year old daughter has been taught that there is an invisible man who will help her if she asks him telepathically. This is, of course, nonsense, and discovering this fact could potentially be lethal. Like the little girl who died while her parents prayed for her healing, when a simple injection would have saved her.
Those parents were murderers. You're just a child-abuser. You should be ashamed of yourself.
CapnOrdinary 2 years ago
In 20 years the success or failure of my parenting will be obvious. You do what you must, and so shall I. But most certainly I am not ashamed of teaching my daughter to pray, as well as my sons who will soon be able to pray themselves. I think its funny you accuse me of abuse, yet you support the teaching that life is meaningless to the youngest children, then you send them for self-esteem therapy. My children have no doubt of the value of their life, and that it has purpose. Do yours?
nathanjonessr 2 years ago
Life most certainly is not meaningless. The absence of superstitions like "gods", "angels", "demons" etc. only makes life all the more precious. Your kids are the ones being taught that everything happening in this life is just a prelude to something far greater, so they should live in anticipation (or fear) of that rather than enjoy the one life they are sure to have.
The fact that you think life is meaningless without god says very sad things about your life. Mine is anything but meaningless.
CapnOrdinary 2 years ago
I agree life isn't meaningless, but where does it get its meaning? The same thing that happens to a dog happens to you - death. If there is no God to give life meaning what is the difference between you and anything else? Chance cannot give meaning. You take pride in your achievements, but who will remember in 100 years? And if evolution be true, one thing for certain we can assume, that all memory of our existence will be wiped out eventually. My life has meaning, because its art from an artist
nathanjonessr 2 years ago
I'm sorry, but I fail to see your point. My life has meaning to me, personally. And frankly, I couldn't really care less whether or not it will have meaning to anyone in a hundred years, by that time I'll be dead anyway, as will you, so what does it matter?
The difference between me and, say, a dog, is that I can think about this. Other than that, there is none. And I don't see how that's relevant.
Oh, and evolution's a fact. Get used to it.
CapnOrdinary 2 years ago
"evolution's a fact" LOL. NOW THAT'S NOT AN AMBIGUOUS STATEMENT -- even forgetting for a moment that we're talking about the "theory" of evolution, here. clearly it's wrong or lacks being either somewhere along the line... note that this is the scientific community itself that must / is calling it a a theory... apparently they're not as confident as the cattle on the Net.
regresseur 2 years ago
"apparently they're not as confident as the cattle on the Net."
And apparently you are unaware of the definition of the word "theory" in a scientific context.
Not surprising, really, as most people are, but still, it might be helpful if you learned something about it before you try to educate others.
It's just a suggestion.
CapnOrdinary 2 years ago
"This may merely indicate, as it does in the sciences, that the theory was arrived at using _potentially faulty inferences_ (scientific induction) _as opposed to the necessary inferences_ used in mathematical proofs"
Wow, you got me there! Let's play the semantics game and see how convoluted we can become to hide our bullshit! Potentially faulty inferences = let's accept it without question. Congratulations, genius!
regresseur 2 years ago
Can't say I've met or seen a moderate Christian (the vast majority) child who was rendered fearful via the religion, except maybe on TV in those extreme (rare) circumstances that we are aware of. For you life is not meaningless, but what have you to offer children in this regard? Have you ever offered them anything to this end? Your conclusion of what someone else teaches is you making assumptions and generalizations, both about the teahcer and the student; your conclusion here is one of (cont.)
regresseur 2 years ago
I don't know whether the "typical christian child" lives in fear of hellfire or not. I know I did, but that's hardly the issue either.
Moderates form the powerbase for the nutters, is the long and short of it. And anyone teaching their child superstitious nonsense about "gods", "heaven", "hell", and other bullshit like that should be ashamed of themselves.
CapnOrdinary 2 years ago
The nutters? You mean that one inbred family that kept getting on the news? Ya they're going to take over any time now. Again the sensationalist angle is just so pathetic.
Why should these [moderate] people be ashamed of themselves for teaching these things?
regresseur 2 years ago
"Why should these [moderate] people be ashamed of themselves for teaching these things?"
Because without evidence of any kind, they are by definition lies. And anyone who lies to their own kid should be ashamed of themselves.
In my opinion, of course.
CapnOrdinary 2 years ago
i can easily reply by saying they're technically not lies because the parents themselves believe in these things. a parent should be ashamed of themselves for lying to their child regardless of how big or how small the lie is and regardless of reason? i love the black / white thinking you constantly express... really applicable stuff in reality & i'm REALLY surprised you don't have kids.
regresseur 2 years ago
MOREOVER
What's up with all these Christian moderate kids living happily ever after? Shouldn't they all be in mental asylums for the evils done unto them by their parents? And it's funny that you say "parents" when it's typically not the parents who do this teaching in the first place... another decent example of you talking out of your ass.
regresseur 2 years ago
sensationalism and obvious ignorance, because again, the typical Christian child doesn't "live in fear", just like the typical child in general, regardless of race or creed. This line of thinking shows a clear disconnect from reality and a desire to leverage the usual bullshit sensationalism to get bullshit points across.
regresseur 2 years ago
"and discovering this fact could potentially be lethal" HAHAHAH. Wow, let me counter with my own sensationalism... or not. Could you be any more lame? Your supporting example is insanely circumstantial and rare... it's about as useful to your point as someone telling someone not to eat ice cream because it's possible that it'll be tainted with AIDS. Then you who appears to be a nice person and parent, as someone who obviously isn't a parent himself, tht thyr a chld abuser&thtthyshdbashamed.Idiot
regresseur 2 years ago
Well, you probably taught your daughter that it's her fault that Jesus was tortured to death.
You also probably taught her that if she didn't worship Jesus, then Jesus' dad would suck out her blood in her sleep.
FunkmasterA997 2 years ago
yeah, something like that (*shaking my head)
nathanjonessr 2 years ago
the first flaw in your post assumes jesus dying on the cross was a bad thing therefore fault must be assumed jesus did die for our sins but it was not somethng he didnt want to do it was his ultimate love for us and he was our saving grace he would do it again if he had too thats the ultimate love and selflessness and their are plenty of people that dont believe in jesus who maintain their blood when they sleep lol god gave us freewill so we can choose our faith
timlachance25 2 years ago
YOU ARE GOING TO HELL!!!
andrushek11 2 years ago
Dawkins is a biologist, Stef is a politcal/economics philosopher. Leave the theology to us believers, unless you want to educate yourself a little more thoroughly in theology. They are all different methods of apprehending the truth and we all disagree with those whose speciality we do not share.
nathanjonessr 2 years ago
Your abusive rhetoric is more like a sophist of ancient Greece than a philosopher (lover of wisdom or knowledge). The Bible has very useful commands about hygiene that were thousands of years before the rest of the world- hand washing, pooping in a hole, quarantining the infectious, circumcision, etc. The mere fact of the Jewish race, shows the value of the Mosaic law. Even the NT gives hints about bacteria, viruses, and nuclear weapons. Isaiah predicts by name the conqueror of Babylon.
nathanjonessr 2 years ago
Alexander the Great, upon coming to Jerusalem, is told the prophecies in Daniel which predict hundreds of years in advance the rise of Greece. He was so impressed by the empirical truth of the scriptures he worshipped the God of Israel in the Temple. You can show the folly of the papacy, but I challenge you to level specific criticisms of the Bible. Even your affection for capitalism is in the Bible, examine the pre-monarchy days of Israel, everything was based on unrestricted trade, no statism.
nathanjonessr 2 years ago
10 seconds, a droplet of soap & a little water per bath / shower, or traumatizing surgery on a defenseless child + 1 human rights violation: You decide.
regresseur 2 years ago
I am pretty new to your channel... but, one of these days I am sure I will find something to disagree with you on. Though, it will probably be only after one of us become old and senile... and that will probably be me.
Thanks for your vids!!!
magichandpuppet 2 years ago
ooo 2:15 a lil tongue action. His basement is pretty boring
funkyslowpony 2 years ago
I'm telling you, the Vatican has the 3rd Testament ready waiting in the draw, just in case some ET decides to say hello! They will twist and turn everything to match their Vodoo.... nothing has changed, it's always the same!
LastReplaySC 3 years ago
PS: NO GALILEO, the Earth is a PIZZA .....FFS!
LastReplaySC 3 years ago
Information is Information, neither matter nor energy. No materialism that fails to take account of this can survive the present day. -Norbert Weiner, MIT Mathematician and Father of Cybernetics
DionysusAlS 3 years ago
>Do you actually know something that science doesn't?
Science knows DNA was designed (and we didn't do it) but atheists can't bring themselves to admit it because they can't allow a divine foot in the door. So they spend their time telling bullshit fairy tales and fabricating evidence. I'm sick of it.
DionysusAlS 3 years ago
LibertyIsNotGiven 3 years ago
When the structure of the DNA molecule is examined, it's revealed that there are no chemical bonds between the nucleotide bases that run along the sugar-phosphate backbone of the helix, and it is precisely along this axis of the molecule that the genetic instructions in DNA are encoded. Further each of the four bases A, T, G, and C attach to any site on the DNA backbone with equal facility, making all sequences equally probable (or improbable), and the same type of chemical bond...
DionysusAlS 3 years ago
**"making all sequences equally probable (or improbable), and the same type of chemical bond... "**
So? You seem to think this is significant for some reason. All we have here is natural selection in action.
**"Thus, it can be said with a high degree of confidence that DNA did not originate naturally. "
You say magic, I say evolution. Guess which one is borne out experimentally. Hint: not magic.
LibertyIsNotGiven 2 years ago
I'm not stupid.
DionysusAlS 3 years ago
Let me introduce you to the 12 dice of possibility.
Imagine throwing 12 dice in the air and having them all come up showing a 6
The odds are 2.6 billion - 1 against.
Number each dice 1 - 12 and when the lowest number dice shows a 6 that is the next in the chain (of DNA...maybe)
Keep throwning the dice in the air until the chain is completed.
The average is around 40 throws to get a row of 12 sixes
DNA does not need to be designed.. It evolved.
IanUK66 3 years ago
... occurs between the bases and the backbone regardless of which base attaches. All four bases are acceptable; none is preferred. In other words, differential bonding affinities do not account for the sequencing of the bases. Thus, it can be said with a high degree of confidence that DNA did not originate naturally.
DionysusAlS 3 years ago
PS.
There's nothing in the bible about porn or t'internet either. :)
I would like to add.....Upon the fall of the ROMAN empire we had, spewing forth across Europe....The ROMAN catholic religion.......It seems like someone had a very cunning plan.
It was a damned good plan too......worked a treat, didn't it ;o)
IanUK66 3 years ago
I find it odd that someone who confesses to pursue truth can say 'there is no god'. How can someone of virtue close their mind to the possibilities.
For sure, the bible is BS but when you stand and look at a sunset, or the night sky or even your growing, beautiful daughter do you not feel a sense of being part of something more, something greater than yourself.
Maybe I just struggle to understand the mind set of an Athiest.
Do you actually know something that science doesn't? :)
IanUK66 3 years ago
Hey, Stef, Is the information in DNA evidence of design in living things?
Consider:
- DNA is not merely a molecule with a pattern; it is a code, a language, and an information storage mechanism.
- All codes are created by a conscious mind; there is no natural process known to science that creates coded information.
- Therefore DNA was designed by a mind
Smoke on THAT for a while.
DionysusAlS 3 years ago
A small pedantic detail: evolution was already an observable fact by Darwin's time (a fact made evident by the fossils discovered in coal mines), what Darwin proposed was "natural selection" as the mechanism by which evolution occured. Before that, people believed that evolution was caused by God. The only vocal group who don't believe in evolution is a tiny group of extreme fundamentalists.
Ape65 3 years ago
>The only vocal group who don't believe in evolution is a tiny group of extreme fundamentalists.
That's a lie and you know it. Check out the latest Gallup poll on evolution. Google: On Darwins Birthday, Only 4 in 10 Believe in Evolution Gallup
DionysusAlS 3 years ago
**"Only 4 in 10 Believe in Evolution Gallup"**
In America. And that's nothing to be proud of.
LibertyIsNotGiven 3 years ago
If you can't beat it, join it.
vivEnergy 3 years ago
Erm the Vatican has accepted evolution as a 'fact' a long time ago.......
joshv89 3 years ago
Excellent video as always, Stef.
Some venom directed at religion in there, more so than I think I've seen from you, but it's completely understandable and I applaud you.
thelastholdout 3 years ago
LOL... "God droppings..."
This is a great video! 5 stars!
PhilosophyWatch 3 years ago
"religion is a series of child abusing WHAT WHAT fairy tales" ??
zardozcs 3 years ago
it was "ass-clown"
idugcoal 3 years ago
Great video, excellent points. Check out Ecclesiastes 3: 18-22. Verse 18 is almost a thesis statement for "Origin of Species".
uncle3269 3 years ago
Evolution and God squad mix as well as oil and vinegar...or better!
Business has no room for ethics and for ruthless players nothing happens without a ruthless plan. Using virus and flu propaganda, big pharma makes big money injecting vaccines into evolutionists. The Vatican, being a huge investor, would see a huge increase in profits if they could inject creationists too. How could they possibly accomplish that? They would have to adopt evolution. Hmmm... when did they first adopt evolution?
AntiShocker 3 years ago 25
Darwin was right and the bible is bull shit people wake up!!!
killergames187 3 years ago
If they even remotely accept Darwin's Theory does that not throw their fair tale of Adam and Eve entirely out the door? Or are they only accepting the theory when it's applied to all other living creatures? At what point do these believers realize that if they've been naive about several things and maybe they should question this entire preposterous facade for maintaining wealth and power?
TillThenPlease 3 years ago
with all the possible ways we could have evolved what is the probability that I would exist and be writing this right now?
TroyLineback 3 years ago
That's just like saying with their being 6.7 Billion people on this planet, what are the odds that your parents combined to make you? Those odds are in the hundred billions, but yet it seems like you're here.
Probability doesn't mean anything. Given enough time even monkeys can write Shakespeare.
JerBear803 3 years ago
Probability doesn't mean anything. Given enough time even monkeys can write Shakespeare. Really? when did this happen?
TroyLineback 3 years ago
Catholicism lost its way in trying to reach the masses. Catholicism has added things to appease and convert. holy mother and the saints was for the pagans. I don't consider Catholicism to be Christianity, it is more like Islam than anything. I think it is folly to reject God because of the sort comings of man. I believe in God, but I also believe in evolution, and the big bang.
TroyLineback 3 years ago
Absolutely spot on as usual. Great delivery, burning truth. I sometimes get a glimpse that maybe things are starting to change... if more and more people start to see the light through the funny clothes and incense...
gottogochild 3 years ago
I'm sorry, but this video is riddled with things that are of questionable validity if you actually seek to debate things rationally as you claim. If you are going to attack a philosophy or religion, attack its actual tenets, not its followers or those who -claim- to be its representatives. You attack the Bible, not on the basis of what it does contain, but based on what it does not. On a separate note, how much of a background do you have in science, Stef?
elcheat 3 years ago
I don't disagree with you on almost all of your views on religion and science. However, remember science isn't perfect and has been manipulated many times by using money. Just look into the 'science' behind the global warming theory and how much the real evidence showing terrible health problems caused by genetically modified products has been suppressed.
sollycardy98 3 years ago