Spiritu Sanctus, the center of this work is revealed in this part, all the energy and inspiration is based on the Holy Spirit becoming the Life giving Spirit for all of us to enjoy, the divine Life!!!
I have to correct myself: conductor is a killer...!!! Tempo in Cum Sancto Spiritu is terribly fast. Bach never ask for stupid virtuosism. His way to conduct is also not clear beetwen 2° and 3° beat... it should be better to have a good metronome (with the right tempo) instead of someone like him...
@gaemp Tout au contraire, ici, Bach ne cherchait pas à écrire une messe, mais plutôt un oratorio voire un opéra déguisé en messe (il serait tout à fait idiot de penser que Bach, protestant de son état eût composée une messe catholique, dans une Allemagne protestante de surcroit), il est donc tout à fait à propos d'utiliser les artifices de l'opéra, virtuosité comprise. Quant à la battue du chef, qui s'en soucie ? Celles de l'orchestre et du chœur sont bonnes, que demander de plus.
@gaemp I apologize for my bad english : "Quite the reverse, here, Bach did not try to write a mass, but rather an oratorio even an opera disguised as mass (it would be completely irrelevant to think that Bach, Protestant of his state had composed a catholic mass,moreover in Protestant Germany), so it is completely apposite to use the subtleties of the opera, virtuosity included."
@LaPopliniere Sorry, I didn't write anything about Protestant or Catholic mass... probably you misunderstood. I just wrote about wrong tempo used by conductor.
@gaemp What I meant in my previous message is that Bach's mass in h minor is not a real mass but rather an oratorio. This tempo is perfectly right for an oratorio ! (for example Händel's "Messiah")
@LaPopliniere Mass or Oratorio, Music is the first thing. The tempo should never go against Music, even if you play a lullaby... "This tempo is perfectly right for an oratorio" sorry, it has no sense.
@gaemp You're right : the beat of the conductor is very important for the musicians, but inasmuch as the beat of musicians is good, the average listener don't care about the conductor. You can't deny it !
Yo tambien opino que esta version del Cum Sanctus Spiritus es muy rápida de tiempo pero a pesar de ello no se desfiguró los detalles contrapuntísticos de Bach gracias a la extraordinaria dirección de Blomsted
I normally wouldn't like the Cum Sanctus Spiritus sung at such a fast tempo, but it works very well here. It's celebratory and rousing. "With the Holy Spirit, in the glory of God the Father".
Que gran genio fue J.S.B.!!!
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Qué- hermosura!!!Gracias Por compartirlo!!!
sergioary1977 8 months ago
Qué- hermosura!!!Gracias Por compartirlo!!!
sergioary1977 8 months ago
The cum sancto is break neck in this one. I feel like I have to mix and match performances to get the perfect mass -- my version of it anyway.
darklordofthepith 10 months ago
3:38 = and Bach said, "VALVES!!? Was sind das für?!".
gerubach 10 months ago
cum sancto spiritu = best Art ever made by mankind
erwku 10 months ago 2
Spiritu Sanctus, the center of this work is revealed in this part, all the energy and inspiration is based on the Holy Spirit becoming the Life giving Spirit for all of us to enjoy, the divine Life!!!
Jaimejimmyjim 1 year ago
Dietrich Henschel, I saw you singing under the conduct of the wonderful Karl Richter and impress me so much, you still do.
Jaimejimmyjim 1 year ago
I would like this tempo a little bit more if the chorus could do a better job of keeping up...
LetItBe920 1 year ago
Great chorus!
carolboyk 1 year ago
I have to correct myself: conductor is a killer...!!! Tempo in Cum Sancto Spiritu is terribly fast. Bach never ask for stupid virtuosism. His way to conduct is also not clear beetwen 2° and 3° beat... it should be better to have a good metronome (with the right tempo) instead of someone like him...
gaemp 2 years ago
@gaemp Tout au contraire, ici, Bach ne cherchait pas à écrire une messe, mais plutôt un oratorio voire un opéra déguisé en messe (il serait tout à fait idiot de penser que Bach, protestant de son état eût composée une messe catholique, dans une Allemagne protestante de surcroit), il est donc tout à fait à propos d'utiliser les artifices de l'opéra, virtuosité comprise. Quant à la battue du chef, qui s'en soucie ? Celles de l'orchestre et du chœur sont bonnes, que demander de plus.
LaPopliniere 1 year ago
@LaPopliniere are you able to write in English, please...?
gaemp 1 year ago
@gaemp I apologize for my bad english : "Quite the reverse, here, Bach did not try to write a mass, but rather an oratorio even an opera disguised as mass (it would be completely irrelevant to think that Bach, Protestant of his state had composed a catholic mass,moreover in Protestant Germany), so it is completely apposite to use the subtleties of the opera, virtuosity included."
LaPopliniere 1 year ago
@LaPopliniere Sorry, I didn't write anything about Protestant or Catholic mass... probably you misunderstood. I just wrote about wrong tempo used by conductor.
gaemp 1 year ago
@gaemp What I meant in my previous message is that Bach's mass in h minor is not a real mass but rather an oratorio. This tempo is perfectly right for an oratorio ! (for example Händel's "Messiah")
LaPopliniere 1 year ago
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@LaPopliniere Mass or Oratorio, Music is the first thing. The tempo should never go against Music, even if you play a lullaby... "This tempo is perfectly right for an oratorio" sorry, it has no sense.
gaemp 1 year ago
@gaemp Excuse me : "it would be completely irrelevant to think that Bach had composed a REAL catholic mass."
LaPopliniere 1 year ago
@gaemp As for the beat of the conductor, who cares about it? Those of the orchestra and the choir are good ! What would you wich on top of that ?
LaPopliniere 1 year ago
@LaPopliniere Who cares about conductor...?!?!? have you any idea about Classical music?????????????????????
gaemp 1 year ago
@gaemp You're right : the beat of the conductor is very important for the musicians, but inasmuch as the beat of musicians is good, the average listener don't care about the conductor. You can't deny it !
LaPopliniere 1 year ago
Baritone and hornist are good, conductor seems to be a "mummia"...
gaemp 2 years ago
Yo tambien opino que esta version del Cum Sanctus Spiritus es muy rápida de tiempo pero a pesar de ello no se desfiguró los detalles contrapuntísticos de Bach gracias a la extraordinaria dirección de Blomsted
QuinasaNA 2 years ago
lindo demais!!!
GLORIA IN EXCELSIS DEO: CHRISTUS NATUS EST!
totsugi 2 years ago
I normally wouldn't like the Cum Sanctus Spiritus sung at such a fast tempo, but it works very well here. It's celebratory and rousing. "With the Holy Spirit, in the glory of God the Father".
pvssymaster 2 years ago 2
Bernhard Krug am Solohorn!
Robert01O 2 years ago
Break neck speed!
cibojules 2 years ago
That's certainly a breathtaking Cum sancto Spiritu! Great stuff!
qwe07 2 years ago