it`s not about freedom of religion cenk.it`s just plain insensitive to build a mosque there or any church for that matter.i see your point true all muslims aren`t terrorists,but they do believe in the same religion and i think what scares people is few muslims speak out against the radicals,therefore alot of people believe they agree with the radical muslims views(kill all non-believers)so until the muslims start policing their own the worlds views will remain the same
Whatever happened to that whole Mosque/ground zero thing anyway??? I mean it was SUCH a huge deal and people were so passionate about how it was wrong to open an--oh thats right, it opened last week with no press or issues in the exact same spot people had problems with no one gives a shit anymore. I guess it really does prove some of these 'issues' are more media driven than publically driven ;). I bet most people who argued about it have no idea either lol.
A mosque has being built by the site of ground zero has nothing to do with 9/11.
It's like if they're saying " They shouldn't build a mosque right there because muslims did a terrorist attack here. Therefore all muslims are part of Al Qaeda...."
I'm not against muslims or anything, in my opinion it's ok to build a mosque right by it, but not exactly on ground zero because that is a memorial and how people pay their respect to their loved ones lost on 9/11...
Newt Gingrich got it exactly right. I like Cenk-- but his anologies here are way off. He used some effective speaking and spun his way around many truths. Bottom line--it is not about all Muslims being terrorists. But Muslims-- including these for the 911 Mosque--are attempting to override this country--like they have in Bratian and France. Liberals like Cenk and his logic--are laying the red carpet out for them. And if you disagree with him? You are against the american constition. Nice.
@slapthecheeta Did you happen to notice you are limited to 500 character reponses here? Kind of of forces selective characterizations. But I think you get my my general message. Just because you disagee with Cenk doesnt mean you are against constitutional values. Maybe it even means you are patriotic.That is liberal BS logic to defend themselves and their idiotic liberal points of view. You can disagree with him and still be all the American he is. Thats pussy high school schoolyard logic.
@slapthecheeta I live in America and Muslims refuse to assimilate. They want everything they want and all on their terms and if you object--you are islamophobic. What happen to assimilation? What happened to the melting pot concept of America?? I live in whats like dowtown Beriut. Surround by women dressed like Darth Vader and Mosques that want 80 foot minarets when the tallest building around is 30 feet. I dont want a middle east country-- I want to live in the USA. You got a problem with that?
This guy is the oratory equivalent of valium...his timing & delivery is way off, and his main focus seems just being able to barely read the teleprompter in front of him. Olbermann is a socialist muppet, but at least he was somewhat entertaining...Cenk has none of it. Useful idiot.
What Cenk fails to understand is that this was done by Muslims extremists. They did this horrific act for a reason. By building a mosque there at ground zero, they will have achieved a spiritual victory. Nobody is saying all Muslims are evil, but there are evil Muslims. So if someone uses a religious view to commit mass murder, it's silly to showcase the same religion that caused the tragedy.In the name of Allah, this was done just like others have done throughout history.
I think some Native Americans think that all the Christian churches across America shows their spiritual victory. Same thing as people think that this Islamic cultural center is a 'spiritual' victory for terrorists.
@SonOfLongBeach There are some differences here. The colonists of the time weren't killing Indians in the name of God. They killed them because they were greedy and close-minded. It had nothing to do about religion. As for the past in general, I like to think we learned a few things. I really hate it when people use the past when we made a lot more mistakes to justify their position now. In the 21st century, this mosque is not appropriate and only will cause bitterness.
@SonOfLongBeach Let the families of the 9/11 tragedy vote and I'll stand by them. All you want to do is argue spewing liberal nonsense. I believe the mosque to be socially unacceptable, but I will back off if the families disagree. The bottom line is you haven't made good arguments. 9/11 was a holy war attack using Islam as a weapon and somehow you compared that to the way Indians were treated. The Indians were killed and cheated of their land by greedy people, faith had nothing to do with it.
@SonOfLongBeach The KKK killed people based on white superiority. The European colonists were greedy, maybe a tad xenophobic, but it's not even close to why Radical Muslims killed people on 9/11. These Muslims did it because it was God's will to die for their cause. If you want to compare anything, look at Pearl Harbor. It's not appropriate to have anything Japanese from that time period there now or ever... The Michael Bay movie using Zero bombers is an exception for realism purposes.
@SonOfLongBeach All those pro's but you forgot one of the major cons. The founder of this proposed site has radical Muslim ties and funding. As a matter of fact, he was seen on foreign media saying very nasty things about this country. Now granted it wasn't on our soil, but that definitely confirms the worries people had about his motives. I'm surprised you knew the basics, but failed to pick up the motive.
What's the major motive against this Islamic cultural center? Lets be hypothetical here. I'm not liberal or conservative. Democrat or Republican. I am a moderate independent. The primary motive against this Islamic cultural center is xenophobia, Islamophobia, discrimination and ignorance. Does the public have the right to be skeptical on this? Of course. Does Imam Rauff have ulterior motives? I don't know. I am just against the ignorance in the anti-Park51 motives.
@SonOfLongBeach Look I'm not from NYC so my opinion really doesn't matter. All I'm saying is they(NYC citizens) shouldn't allow this culture center because the founder is a radical Muslim when he is visiting home. Al-jeerzi(spelling I bet is wrong) has tons of interviews that show his radical connections to extremists. For that one reason alone, you should be on my side. If the center wasn't funded with dirty money from terrorists, I'd probably be more willing to accept it.
Just because you have the right to do something, doesn't mean it's the right thing to do (i.e.: flag burning and the Westboro Baptist idiots). Just some food for thought.
Obama expressed it perfectly to me! I feel that way! They absolutely have the right and I think they should absolutely be allowed to build it there. Do i question the wisdom of putting it so close to the Trade Center memorial...yes I do. All the people killed in the towers were killed by Muslims. That is one reason alone. Many people are just going to struggle with that! How about just put it one or two blocks over? Why? you ask? Why not? Some just think it's strange and I can see their point .
This guy is an idiot. He has an opinion while knowing nothing about the Koran or Islam in general. Instead he compares it to other religions. They are not all the same. They are not preaching Jihad and persecution of infidels in daily prayer. This religion has not evolved enough for the MAJORITY of those people practicing it. We have every right to be sus on it. The mosque IS an insult, and this man is an idiot.
@Yalf111 you fucking ignorant dumbass. You dont know shit about other religions either. Have you ever read the fucking bible. It says that god said to bring everyone who doesnt believe in him so that he can slay them. If thats not persecution of infidels, i dont know what is.
@lambofreak55 I'm going to assume this was the Old Testament. I personally don't remember those exact words of slaying people that don't believe him. I remember God saying how they would be judged and if there is only one God, that's just common sense. The point is I don't see people killing in God's name for a long, long time so don't bring up the 1300 century or something and equate that to today. Let's see if you can do anything besides troll.
@shadowedge69 Luke 19:27 "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.' New testament btw.
@lambofreak55 I could just throw a classic muslim line out: "you're taking our bible out of context! Wahh!"
But really, the difference is that Christians don't believe that their bible was the direct word of God. It changes and evolves. It doesn't claim to be the LAST word of God for ALL times forever and ever. Huge difference.
@Yalf111 Jeremiah 1:19 Then the LORD stretched out His hand and touched my mouth, and the LORD said to me, "Behold, I have put My words in your mouth." Luke 19:27 But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me...This sounds like God talk to me. But thats not the issue dude. Its not a matter of religion. Its the society. people in that society would act the same way regardless of which religious text they were brianwashed with.
@lambofreak55 - You ignored what I said. The bible is not taken as the direct word of God from a single prophet. It is therefore questionable and has been revised many times. The Koran is supposedly THE book, and is a map to life for ALL times until the end time (which they are encouraged to make happen). Honestly, I think all religious people are bonkers. It pisses me off it turns into this religion vs that one. Who cares? It's a horrible book that's taken literally by idiots.
@Yalf111 No your wrong. The bible does claim to be the word of God. It even has direct quotes from him. It's revisions arent to clarify whether it was his word. its to clarify meaning in correlation to its original form aswell as clarification to appeal to newer generations. And whether it is questionable has nothing to do with whether its the Bible or the Koran. They're both complete bullshit. Its a matter of context and society and interpretations. Thats whats at fault not the actual book.
Cenk is a hypocrite too. Trust me, if the situation was reversed with Christians, Cenk would be on the opposite side ripping them apart. Last time I checked, 9/11 killed a lot more people than an abortion clinic bombing. Nice try though Cenk
Out of all things we could have all agreed on, I thought the insensitive, uncouth, tasteless Victory Monument Mosque's development being curtailed would have been one of them....I used to respect Cenk a great deal despite my seeing the world differently. Now after this, I've lost so much respect for him.
@VoiceOfModeration Wait, you oppose the mosque being built? Is that what you disagree with him on? Please tell me that I didn't interpret that correctly.
@CrackeTheSkull Yes I oppose it, and I thought it would have been an issue Left and Right could agree on....only on PMSNBC can we find these nutbars supporting it - just not GETting why it's a problem. I used to respect Cenk for being fair-minded, but lately he's lost his ability to be rational...I guess that eventually and inevitably goes with going Left.
@VoiceOfModeration So you think that all Muslims are responsible for 9/11? What he said was fair-mindedness in its purest form. admit it, you want it to be ok to make one set of rules for you and one set of rules for others the whole point of freedom goes right over your head.
@freebird285 No friend, that's a caricature of what people like me believe. I know that not all Muslims are terrorists. But most terrorists are Muslims, that's just a fact of life. Get over it. I'm also well-read enough to realize and unPC enough to embrace the fact that the Qur'an has 109 direct and explicit incitations to violence on non-believers. This is a sensitivity issue, and it's pretty damn straight-forward. Only PC fundamentalists can't get it.
He mentions a christian malcontent or two-but what about the millions upon millions of muslim malcontents? They are everywhere. He wants us to just ignore this threat because of blind relgious freedom? Let them build a victory mosque-- just because of blind religious freedom? Their has to be a balance somewhere. We have to be able to protect ourselves and our way of life. He seems to want to give complete freedom with no accountability. Didnt work for Europe so well did it?
He has some good points- but missing some too. Has he paid attention to what has happened to Britian since they opened their arms to Muslims after 911 to show their cultural spirit?? Now millions of muslims hate their new country- live under Sharia law in whole neighborhoods and have a generation of young men looking to cause internal strive. And Cenk says I am unamerican if I just dont bend over and let that occur here? Those who dont learn from history will repeat it. And he is right-and not.
I love how this guy claims Fox news for pushing propaganda with a republican purpose, yet this is extreme propaganda in his favor....he only showcases the worst of arguments against a mosque and th best ones for it..then he tries to say "imagine if jews were not a allowed to build a temple" one of the oldest scams in the book my friend...
@nohatersaloud Fox viewers the ones funding the mosque near ground zero. The second largest share holder of Fox News is a muslim guy who is the largest funder of the Mosque.
i was talking to my friend about this and he said this..."i bet in about 6 months to a year after they build the mosque the mafia is gonna come and burn that bitch down!"
Don't forget, Hitler started a grant anti jew propaganda campain in the muslim world to get arabic country's to his side. A friend from Hitler was the Grand Mufti of Palestine.
@XlinkK280 Jews fled to Arab and Muslim countries where they were welcomed with open arms. Hitler may have established a propaganda arm, but that doesn't mean people bought it just cuz you're buying Jewish propaganda today.
Americans really do seem to think that their country is the only free country in the world? And they're certainly not the only country that values freedom of religion.
This is what happens when you live in one the most powerfull countries where 60 percent of the people believe that the Noah's arc story is litteraly true.
Cenk is right, why do you judge Islam or all Muslims??? there are 1.5 Bilion
are they all terorists?? is there religion a religion of Terror ? 1.5 Billion people find happiness in Terror ??
Please before you judge anything find out for yourself and read The Manual , I mean the real manual not the "someone say this , or say that " an not the Media, or any bias source but the Real source "The book" ... for the case of Islam :THE QURAN
I would agree but in the quran it openly says "kill all disbelievers". that is written in their holy book. so yes I will judge their religion based on that.
@sanjor8r you quotting the Quran out of contest, you have to anderstand the whole chapter with interpretation from scholars , Sorry you are to tell you you are wrong
@sanjor8r and they are very good at using language to confuse matters. when they state that the "innocents" are not to be harmed", we think, "oh, they are nice peeps! They will not harm innocent women and children!" However, "innocents" to the Muslim are those who are Muslim or who have converted to Islam. Period. The rest of us are pigs and infidels.
@sanjor8r It doesn't say "kill all disbeilevers" it says "kill these disbeilevers" if you read that sura you will understand that "these disbeilevers" are the ones who killed muslims and invaded their cities so it is a sura about self defense and it mentions war is only good to defend you people and I think that sura shows Islam is peaceful because it "only" allows you to fight with people who is a threat for your people
I think this rant is more about Cenk being a muslim himself trather than him believing in the constitution so passionately. I always found him to be an intelligent and engaging host on the Young Turks show but here he is displaying his bias very clearly. He should accept that for many Americans this is a real and sensitive issue.
@chewie2240 Cenk is not a muslim he is an atheist, he's not bias at all, he's making the point that an entire religion should not be judged by what their extremists do because all religions have extremists!
wow you are soooooo so ignorant, no mosque huh? so we sacrificed over 4,000 american soldiers to free the ppl in iraq from saddams tyranny & give them religious freedom, yet, they cant come to the u.s. & build a mosque in manhatton ?
Fuck muslims. Look at how radical muslims are shaking America today; 9:11, the southpark scandal, sharia law ect. But comparing muslims to nazis is not sick at all, because last time i checked it is a religion of pure HATRED for any body who does not fallow it. And IMO radical muslims DO represent all of them because how many muslims do you see protesting and fighting against radicals? 0. If muslims dont like the fact that we dont want that mosque there they can get the fuck out of my country.
christianity is a religion of PURE hatred, all of the major world wars have been started by christians, the crusaders, the inquisition, the salem witch trials, etc.
christianity has by far been the most violent religion in history, that is fact btw
now btw,i dont actually believe christianity is of pure hatred,i just wanted to sound like an dumb ignorant fuck like yourself
mohammad salman was a new york EMT & police cadet who died saving ppl from the wtc. & he was a muslim
Not even good as a tool for making a point. Japan's wars, China's wars, India's regional wars, Genghis Khan, the Ottoman Empire, the Moslem conquest of Africa and the Moslem invasion of Europe both centuries ago and today, the Islamic invasion of the Far East and the Pacific, the Islamic terrorism in INdonesia, Nigeria, the Philippines....
The Greek Empire, the Roman Empire, the Mali Empire.... not Christian.
look dude im a true American, i believe in freedom of religion, thats what makes us better than the other countries, not only do they have the legal right to build it anywhere but also
there were only a few hundred Al Quida members that attacked us, there are 1.5billion peaceful muslims many muslims died rescuing victims including mohammad salman
theres already a mosque 4blocks away its been there for decades
2 stories of the wtc were for muslim prayer space, MORON!
Thank you for sharing. These people will try to do here what they are doing in Europe: use our liberal governments and philosophy to invade and attack us from behind our own lines. The vulnerability of our constitution to be exploited by our enemies was known at the time it was created. it was created with the understanding and expectation that Americans would also exercise common sense. Every moslem who is not Al Quaida is not by default peaceful. Islam is a cancer. Moron.
"It was created with the understanding and expectation that Americans would also excercise common sense"yea like not letting the government pick&choose where ppl can & can't worship MORON!
& if Islam is a cancer then why did Mohammad Salman, a muslim, sacrifice his life to save his fellow Americans during 9/11? he wasnt the only one
&his mom in a CBS interview said"Are we not American? Did we not sacrifice?", he is not filled with pure hatred like glenn beck will have you believe
It is a fact that Christianity has been the most violent religion in world.
& what about the guy who bombed the abortion clinics based christian views, how is christianity not a cancer ?
is it because most Americans are christians & many of the ppl you know & love are also christian?
I've known my friend faraz since i was like 11 & now we're going to the same college, he's a muslim, & trust me he's not filled with hatred, he's one of the coolest dudes you'll ever meet
"It is a fact that Christianity has been the most violent religion in world."
Not really a fact. But not really relevant either. Islam is invasive, it is not a part of our culture. So even if Christianity leaves something to be desired, and of course it does, then it still doesn't mean that we need another stupid superstition at work.
And the two don't really compare. Eric Rudolph was not acting with the approval of the church hierarchy or mass dancing cheerleaders.
"is it because most Americans are christians & many of the ppl you know & love are also christian?"
Search on You Tube islam + england, and also watch Pat Condell on Islam .... please. Then you will understand my animosity. I'm sure your friend Faraz is nice to you, he is however part of a number which will reach a point at which the militancy will accelerate. We're already seeing the militancy in Dearborn and elsewhere with CAIR, and the sheer arrogance of the 911 Mosque.
look dude, im pretty sure you've never had close friends that are muslim like me, because if you did you wouldnt buy into all this hype that they are evil terrorists, Al Quida is a very narrow branch of Islam, only a few hundred Al Quida members existed when they attacked us on 911 meanwhile1.5billion others are not trying to attack us,& either way they are Americans just like me &you & they definitely have the right to build a mosque there, theres already one 4 blocks from the WTC
I don't "buy into all this hype that they are evil terrorists", but you are buying into your belief that anyone who is against Islamic migration must be stupid. You are a nice person and it doesn't matter. What I don't think you get is that I don't like what's happening in Europe. Al Quaida isn't raping and maiming people in Europe, common street muslims are, and the reason they can do it is because of the large numbers of "peaceful muslims" giving them political cover.
look i dont have a problem with you hating al quida or wanting to stop them, of course we should they are evil ppl, but al quida is only a few hundred maybe a few thousand muslims, thats less than 1% of muslims, so don't smear the whole religion, because the fact is the muslims that arent in al quida do hate al quida & vice versa, i mean there were 2 floors in the WTC that were soley for muslim prayer space & there were many muslim firefighters who were all killed by al quida
@Gulfporter I can't understand the ignorance of people who claim they have Muslim friends who are nice guys, therefore Islam must be a good religion. I had a boss that was the nicest guy you could meet. He also was in the German Army in WWII. So to use these apologist logic, Nazism was a good ideolgy because I knew one who was a nice guy.
I like this guy. But I think Obama said he wouldn't question the "wisdom" of building a monque. I think this is right. It's not anyone business how wise or unwise, how politically correct or incorrect, how tasteful or distasteful, building any place of worship is. The question shouldn't be on the table, not in the US.
there are no moderate Muslims right?? It is a hateful religion. If Muslims were truly upset about the radicals in the religion they would be standing out against it...where are the Muslims protesting the radicals? no where. case closed.
"I couldn't care less if you're a black, a muslim, a chinaman, a mexican, an irish bug, a wop, a dago, a roach, a spic, an A-rab, spear chucker, bohunk, hymie, homo, or whatever. I just hate you and don't want you near me or my kids. That's not a problem with me, it's a problem with you".
@993ironman You fail @ recognizing sarcasm, recognizing satire, and recognizing the fact that I had quotation marks around a quote that i then attributed to the kind of person CENK is talking about.
I'm not really saying those things, learn to read before you go off half cocked... lol im an athiest and don't worry I don't want to go anywhere near your kids...
People are exploiting and demagogically abusing this issue. Spreading propaganda, biases & personal opinions about the proposed Mosque in order to promote and move forward a political agenda which is ultimately a fight over religious freedom and religious speech. Let me give you a example of radical Christians at work in the states. Everyone knows that the Westboro Baptist church has no affiliation whatsoever with the actual Baptists right? So why can't they apply the same logic here? Bingo!
@hfiosl Well said. "IF" they can prove that this specific Islamic center is being developed by radical extremists/funded and have the idea of a victory mosque near ground zero than as a Muslim i will be against the plan. Other than that, there is no real reason why people should see this Islamic center as a threat, freedom of religion applies to everyone. Even the extra-terrestrial who decide to migrate in the near-future. Freedom of religion should be adopted to every single nation on earth.
You fucking americans deserve to be incinerated, nuked, destroyed. You american shits dont deserve to die. I hope the Muslims take a shit on you, america. You fucking cowards.
@Seigu007 thats not nice man, calm down bro, some americans are the best people you will see in the world. but yes, there are some who go abit too far. but we should then reply peacfuly, and sensibly.
@hfiosl "...you are on the wrong side of this issue."
Since I am wrong can you tell me what YOU would call a man over 50 who has sex with a 9 year old child?
You can really help out your buddy Enterthetruth because he's under the impression that an 8 year old girl is mature.
Both of you seem to be "raised correctly" as you say, so can you tell me why it's NOT wrong for a 50 + year old man to have sex with a 9 year old girl?
What a fucking Idiot this Cenk jerkoff is. Hey Retard he wasn't comparing muslims to nazis, that was an example. Besides they might even be worse than Nazis, the Nazis were just smarter and had a lot of more power, these muslim extremists have neither.
The FUNDAMENTALS of the Christian faith does NOT condone bombing--JESUS. Islam does. You're a lyer dude.
mccartherable 3 hours ago
It's not even a "mosque"!
JackTheRipper8202 1 week ago
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Voici la methode des gitans pour voler arnaquer manipuler...
Ils accusent 9 x sur 10 les arabes de leur actes, afin de divisés pour mieux regner.
L'unique chose qu'il ne font pas c'est tuer avec violence (phisiquement) et il ne manque pas d'autres methodes...
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La stupiditer allier a la débiliter profonde...
zitous1 1 month ago
By that standard thr should be No churches in Iraq....
majesticmaniac 1 month ago
it`s not about freedom of religion cenk.it`s just plain insensitive to build a mosque there or any church for that matter.i see your point true all muslims aren`t terrorists,but they do believe in the same religion and i think what scares people is few muslims speak out against the radicals,therefore alot of people believe they agree with the radical muslims views(kill all non-believers)so until the muslims start policing their own the worlds views will remain the same
DOUBAUM1 1 month ago
Did he assume that all the people watching this are christians??
Commander1991NOR 3 months ago
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Commander1991NOR 3 months ago
They hate our freedom?! R u fucking kidding me?! They dont like us in theyr fucking countries!!!
thedudewithbeef 3 months ago
@omegavalerius
I know, I agree. That's why I said I DONT want it to be stopped. They have the righ to do it.
I just personally disagree with it, and it's discourteous of them to build it there.
BUT just because I peronally disagree doesn't mean I don't want them to have their rights.
Actually, if they were banned from building it by the gov., I would be furious.
heatbucspies55 4 months ago
@heatbucspies55
Hear hear!
omegavalerius 3 months ago
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' muslims pay your RENT or as they say in NEW YORK,
" YOU"RE OUTTA HERE! CoED finally got SOME BALLS.
AlexandrostheGreat1 4 months ago
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rabbitsareweird 4 months ago
Whatever happened to that whole Mosque/ground zero thing anyway??? I mean it was SUCH a huge deal and people were so passionate about how it was wrong to open an--oh thats right, it opened last week with no press or issues in the exact same spot people had problems with no one gives a shit anymore. I guess it really does prove some of these 'issues' are more media driven than publically driven ;). I bet most people who argued about it have no idea either lol.
fctiger74 4 months ago
A mosque has being built by the site of ground zero has nothing to do with 9/11.
It's like if they're saying " They shouldn't build a mosque right there because muslims did a terrorist attack here. Therefore all muslims are part of Al Qaeda...."
I'm not against muslims or anything, in my opinion it's ok to build a mosque right by it, but not exactly on ground zero because that is a memorial and how people pay their respect to their loved ones lost on 9/11...
That's just dumb and prejudice.
jlboy112 4 months ago
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jlboy112 4 months ago
@tishhead Mosques should only be allowed next to hog farms.
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Cenk Uygur for President!!!
MrMantura 6 months ago
Cenk Uygur for President!!!
russian19spetnaz47 6 months ago
@russian19spetnaz47
for president of russia
salihadjic 4 months ago
Newt Gingrich got it exactly right. I like Cenk-- but his anologies here are way off. He used some effective speaking and spun his way around many truths. Bottom line--it is not about all Muslims being terrorists. But Muslims-- including these for the 911 Mosque--are attempting to override this country--like they have in Bratian and France. Liberals like Cenk and his logic--are laying the red carpet out for them. And if you disagree with him? You are against the american constition. Nice.
codylittlestuff 8 months ago
@codylittlestuff and what are these truths that he dances around? Great use of selective ambiguities bud
slapthecheeta 8 months ago
@slapthecheeta Did you happen to notice you are limited to 500 character reponses here? Kind of of forces selective characterizations. But I think you get my my general message. Just because you disagee with Cenk doesnt mean you are against constitutional values. Maybe it even means you are patriotic.That is liberal BS logic to defend themselves and their idiotic liberal points of view. You can disagree with him and still be all the American he is. Thats pussy high school schoolyard logic.
codylittlestuff 8 months ago
@slapthecheeta I live in America and Muslims refuse to assimilate. They want everything they want and all on their terms and if you object--you are islamophobic. What happen to assimilation? What happened to the melting pot concept of America?? I live in whats like dowtown Beriut. Surround by women dressed like Darth Vader and Mosques that want 80 foot minarets when the tallest building around is 30 feet. I dont want a middle east country-- I want to live in the USA. You got a problem with that?
codylittlestuff 8 months ago
I HATE MUSLUMS I THINK WE SHOULD BLOW UP ALL MOSQUES AND SHIP THEM BACK TO THE SLUMS OF THE WORLD. AND YES ALL MUSLUMS ARE GUILTY
jamey123456789 8 months ago
This guy is the oratory equivalent of valium...his timing & delivery is way off, and his main focus seems just being able to barely read the teleprompter in front of him. Olbermann is a socialist muppet, but at least he was somewhat entertaining...Cenk has none of it. Useful idiot.
shawnpeters73gmail 8 months ago
God bless!!! US ALL :-)
LiamRexCollins 8 months ago
What Cenk fails to understand is that this was done by Muslims extremists. They did this horrific act for a reason. By building a mosque there at ground zero, they will have achieved a spiritual victory. Nobody is saying all Muslims are evil, but there are evil Muslims. So if someone uses a religious view to commit mass murder, it's silly to showcase the same religion that caused the tragedy.In the name of Allah, this was done just like others have done throughout history.
shadowedge69 8 months ago
@shadowedge69
I think some Native Americans think that all the Christian churches across America shows their spiritual victory. Same thing as people think that this Islamic cultural center is a 'spiritual' victory for terrorists.
SonOfLongBeach 8 months ago
@SonOfLongBeach There are some differences here. The colonists of the time weren't killing Indians in the name of God. They killed them because they were greedy and close-minded. It had nothing to do about religion. As for the past in general, I like to think we learned a few things. I really hate it when people use the past when we made a lot more mistakes to justify their position now. In the 21st century, this mosque is not appropriate and only will cause bitterness.
shadowedge69 8 months ago
@shadowedge69
You tell me how an Islamic cultural center is not appropriate in that spot.
SonOfLongBeach 7 months ago
@SonOfLongBeach Let the families of the 9/11 tragedy vote and I'll stand by them. All you want to do is argue spewing liberal nonsense. I believe the mosque to be socially unacceptable, but I will back off if the families disagree. The bottom line is you haven't made good arguments. 9/11 was a holy war attack using Islam as a weapon and somehow you compared that to the way Indians were treated. The Indians were killed and cheated of their land by greedy people, faith had nothing to do with it.
shadowedge69 7 months ago
@shadowedge69
And btw, was not the reason Europeans came to America was for 'God, country and to get rich'?
SonOfLongBeach 7 months ago
@SonOfLongBeach The KKK killed people based on white superiority. The European colonists were greedy, maybe a tad xenophobic, but it's not even close to why Radical Muslims killed people on 9/11. These Muslims did it because it was God's will to die for their cause. If you want to compare anything, look at Pearl Harbor. It's not appropriate to have anything Japanese from that time period there now or ever... The Michael Bay movie using Zero bombers is an exception for realism purposes.
shadowedge69 7 months ago
@shadowedge69 dumb...ass!
lambofreak55 8 months ago
@shadowedge69
An Islamic cultural center is appropriate there -
1) It is a cultural center, not a mosque, first of all.
2) It's not on ground zero, it is blocks away from it.
3) A few dozen innocent Americans who practiced Islam peacefully died in that attack, including one who was in the NYPD.
4) Freedom of religion.
5) It is private property, no one should say what they can or can not build there.
6) It can build interfaith connections.
SonOfLongBeach 7 months ago
@SonOfLongBeach All those pro's but you forgot one of the major cons. The founder of this proposed site has radical Muslim ties and funding. As a matter of fact, he was seen on foreign media saying very nasty things about this country. Now granted it wasn't on our soil, but that definitely confirms the worries people had about his motives. I'm surprised you knew the basics, but failed to pick up the motive.
shadowedge69 7 months ago
@shadowedge69
What's the major motive against this Islamic cultural center? Lets be hypothetical here. I'm not liberal or conservative. Democrat or Republican. I am a moderate independent. The primary motive against this Islamic cultural center is xenophobia, Islamophobia, discrimination and ignorance. Does the public have the right to be skeptical on this? Of course. Does Imam Rauff have ulterior motives? I don't know. I am just against the ignorance in the anti-Park51 motives.
SonOfLongBeach 7 months ago
@SonOfLongBeach Look I'm not from NYC so my opinion really doesn't matter. All I'm saying is they(NYC citizens) shouldn't allow this culture center because the founder is a radical Muslim when he is visiting home. Al-jeerzi(spelling I bet is wrong) has tons of interviews that show his radical connections to extremists. For that one reason alone, you should be on my side. If the center wasn't funded with dirty money from terrorists, I'd probably be more willing to accept it.
shadowedge69 7 months ago
Just because you have the right to do something, doesn't mean it's the right thing to do (i.e.: flag burning and the Westboro Baptist idiots). Just some food for thought.
CaptainPriceLives 8 months ago
Obama expressed it perfectly to me! I feel that way! They absolutely have the right and I think they should absolutely be allowed to build it there. Do i question the wisdom of putting it so close to the Trade Center memorial...yes I do. All the people killed in the towers were killed by Muslims. That is one reason alone. Many people are just going to struggle with that! How about just put it one or two blocks over? Why? you ask? Why not? Some just think it's strange and I can see their point .
TrueLight55 9 months ago
This guy is an idiot. He has an opinion while knowing nothing about the Koran or Islam in general. Instead he compares it to other religions. They are not all the same. They are not preaching Jihad and persecution of infidels in daily prayer. This religion has not evolved enough for the MAJORITY of those people practicing it. We have every right to be sus on it. The mosque IS an insult, and this man is an idiot.
Yalf111 10 months ago
@Yalf111 They are not preaching Jihad and persecution of infidels in daily prayer.
where? can you give me a quote from the 5 daily prayers where muslims preach Jihad and persecution of infidels in daily prayer.
QuranTafseer 10 months ago
@Yalf111 you fucking ignorant dumbass. You dont know shit about other religions either. Have you ever read the fucking bible. It says that god said to bring everyone who doesnt believe in him so that he can slay them. If thats not persecution of infidels, i dont know what is.
lambofreak55 8 months ago
@lambofreak55 I'm going to assume this was the Old Testament. I personally don't remember those exact words of slaying people that don't believe him. I remember God saying how they would be judged and if there is only one God, that's just common sense. The point is I don't see people killing in God's name for a long, long time so don't bring up the 1300 century or something and equate that to today. Let's see if you can do anything besides troll.
shadowedge69 8 months ago
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@shadowedge69 Luke 19:27 "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.' New testament btw.
lambofreak55 8 months ago
@lambofreak55 I could just throw a classic muslim line out: "you're taking our bible out of context! Wahh!"
But really, the difference is that Christians don't believe that their bible was the direct word of God. It changes and evolves. It doesn't claim to be the LAST word of God for ALL times forever and ever. Huge difference.
Yalf111 8 months ago
@Yalf111 Jeremiah 1:19 Then the LORD stretched out His hand and touched my mouth, and the LORD said to me, "Behold, I have put My words in your mouth." Luke 19:27 But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me...This sounds like God talk to me. But thats not the issue dude. Its not a matter of religion. Its the society. people in that society would act the same way regardless of which religious text they were brianwashed with.
lambofreak55 8 months ago
@lambofreak55 - You ignored what I said. The bible is not taken as the direct word of God from a single prophet. It is therefore questionable and has been revised many times. The Koran is supposedly THE book, and is a map to life for ALL times until the end time (which they are encouraged to make happen). Honestly, I think all religious people are bonkers. It pisses me off it turns into this religion vs that one. Who cares? It's a horrible book that's taken literally by idiots.
Yalf111 7 months ago
@Yalf111 No your wrong. The bible does claim to be the word of God. It even has direct quotes from him. It's revisions arent to clarify whether it was his word. its to clarify meaning in correlation to its original form aswell as clarification to appeal to newer generations. And whether it is questionable has nothing to do with whether its the Bible or the Koran. They're both complete bullshit. Its a matter of context and society and interpretations. Thats whats at fault not the actual book.
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@metaljacket1983123
Cenk is a hypocrite too. Trust me, if the situation was reversed with Christians, Cenk would be on the opposite side ripping them apart. Last time I checked, 9/11 killed a lot more people than an abortion clinic bombing. Nice try though Cenk
really are you psychic
InquisitorDracomual 10 months ago
all the conservatives are taking shots at ed because his rating keep increasing.
JAEGERSTER 10 months ago
This just in, the republicans believe the constitution applies only to white land owning (or now business owning) men.
lubermanl 10 months ago
I think Obama put it exactly right. They have a right to build the mosque. I also have th right to desecrete a koran. Should these things be done?
mizzoulibertarian 11 months ago
What a deush bag .... This guy knows nothing about being an american!
euge447 11 months ago
@euge447 he isnt an american he was born in turkey
JAEGERSTER 10 months ago
@JAEGERSTER Thanks I already knew that.
euge447 10 months ago
@SuperEgaal
You moron I did not refer to anyone in particular.. it was a general statement about Muslims. Yes I live in the south. Southern Ontario....(:
dorot222 11 months ago
Word.
isteemaen 11 months ago
He got his own show
TheChubbs13 11 months ago
ALL Muslims are either terrorists or demographic soldiers....end of story
dorot222 11 months ago
Cenk admit it..you love the 19 hijackers...
dorot222 11 months ago
Out of all things we could have all agreed on, I thought the insensitive, uncouth, tasteless Victory Monument Mosque's development being curtailed would have been one of them....I used to respect Cenk a great deal despite my seeing the world differently. Now after this, I've lost so much respect for him.
VoiceOfModeration 1 year ago
@VoiceOfModeration Wait, you oppose the mosque being built? Is that what you disagree with him on? Please tell me that I didn't interpret that correctly.
CrackeTheSkull 11 months ago
@CrackeTheSkull Yes I oppose it, and I thought it would have been an issue Left and Right could agree on....only on PMSNBC can we find these nutbars supporting it - just not GETting why it's a problem. I used to respect Cenk for being fair-minded, but lately he's lost his ability to be rational...I guess that eventually and inevitably goes with going Left.
VoiceOfModeration 11 months ago
@VoiceOfModeration So you think that all Muslims are responsible for 9/11? What he said was fair-mindedness in its purest form. admit it, you want it to be ok to make one set of rules for you and one set of rules for others the whole point of freedom goes right over your head.
freebird285 11 months ago
@freebird285 No friend, that's a caricature of what people like me believe. I know that not all Muslims are terrorists. But most terrorists are Muslims, that's just a fact of life. Get over it. I'm also well-read enough to realize and unPC enough to embrace the fact that the Qur'an has 109 direct and explicit incitations to violence on non-believers. This is a sensitivity issue, and it's pretty damn straight-forward. Only PC fundamentalists can't get it.
VoiceOfModeration 11 months ago
wow he hit that one with a hammer?
pistol987 1 year ago
He mentions a christian malcontent or two-but what about the millions upon millions of muslim malcontents? They are everywhere. He wants us to just ignore this threat because of blind relgious freedom? Let them build a victory mosque-- just because of blind religious freedom? Their has to be a balance somewhere. We have to be able to protect ourselves and our way of life. He seems to want to give complete freedom with no accountability. Didnt work for Europe so well did it?
codylittlestuff 1 year ago
He has some good points- but missing some too. Has he paid attention to what has happened to Britian since they opened their arms to Muslims after 911 to show their cultural spirit?? Now millions of muslims hate their new country- live under Sharia law in whole neighborhoods and have a generation of young men looking to cause internal strive. And Cenk says I am unamerican if I just dont bend over and let that occur here? Those who dont learn from history will repeat it. And he is right-and not.
codylittlestuff 1 year ago
I love how this guy claims Fox news for pushing propaganda with a republican purpose, yet this is extreme propaganda in his favor....he only showcases the worst of arguments against a mosque and th best ones for it..then he tries to say "imagine if jews were not a allowed to build a temple" one of the oldest scams in the book my friend...
nohatersaloud 1 year ago
@nohatersaloud Fox viewers the ones funding the mosque near ground zero. The second largest share holder of Fox News is a muslim guy who is the largest funder of the Mosque.
mochopz 1 year ago
i was talking to my friend about this and he said this..."i bet in about 6 months to a year after they build the mosque the mafia is gonna come and burn that bitch down!"
mastershadows57 1 year ago
Imagine no religion, it's easy if you try.
noellennon 1 year ago
Don't forget, Hitler started a grant anti jew propaganda campain in the muslim world to get arabic country's to his side. A friend from Hitler was the Grand Mufti of Palestine.
XlinkK280 1 year ago
@XlinkK280 Jews fled to Arab and Muslim countries where they were welcomed with open arms. Hitler may have established a propaganda arm, but that doesn't mean people bought it just cuz you're buying Jewish propaganda today.
sykopath66190 1 year ago
@XlinkK280 what does that have to do with anything
lambofreak55 8 months ago
What a douchebag. MSNBC should change it 's name to the Douchebag channel !
alientsf 1 year ago
@alientsf how is this being a douchebag? where is he wrong?
lambofreak55 8 months ago
Americans really do seem to think that their country is the only free country in the world? And they're certainly not the only country that values freedom of religion.
This is what happens when you live in one the most powerfull countries where 60 percent of the people believe that the Noah's arc story is litteraly true.
MannyGrizzly1 1 year ago
Cenk hits the nail on the head!
thelivingfire 1 year ago
whats mosques have to do with 911?
tinfoilrepair 1 year ago 14
@tinfoilrepair we were attacked as Osama said because are gov. is (correctly in many ways)seen as attacking muslims
mizzoulibertarian 9 months ago
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@tinfoilrepair we were attacked as Osama said because our gov. is (correctly in many ways)seen as attacking muslims
mizzoulibertarian 9 months ago
Cenk is right, why do you judge Islam or all Muslims??? there are 1.5 Bilion
are they all terorists?? is there religion a religion of Terror ? 1.5 Billion people find happiness in Terror ??
Please before you judge anything find out for yourself and read The Manual , I mean the real manual not the "someone say this , or say that " an not the Media, or any bias source but the Real source "The book" ... for the case of Islam :THE QURAN
mshisha007 1 year ago
@mshisha007 It is the religion of Peace
mshisha007 1 year ago
comparing muslims to nazis ? maaaaaan .... some americans take it one step too far and I have no clue what muslim lawyers are dozing off to ..
semo2010 1 year ago
cenk uygur is great !! :) <33
asLiieeex3 1 year ago
You all being play by the elite! Muslims are notch enemy they are being portrayed as bad so we all kill each other! Can I say depopulation!
Tonyalvarado1962 1 year ago
I would agree but in the quran it openly says "kill all disbelievers". that is written in their holy book. so yes I will judge their religion based on that.
sanjor8r 1 year ago
@sanjor8r I was under the (mis?)apprehention that the three Abrahamic religions held this in common. I hope you judge those too.
Lleanlleawrg 1 year ago
@sanjor8r Yes and they practice what is preached.
jacofall7 1 year ago
@sanjor8r Would you mind citing your evidence please? Where in the Quran specifically?
soulchild3751 1 year ago
@sanjor8r you quotting the Quran out of contest, you have to anderstand the whole chapter with interpretation from scholars , Sorry you are to tell you you are wrong
mshisha007 1 year ago
@sanjor8r and they are very good at using language to confuse matters. when they state that the "innocents" are not to be harmed", we think, "oh, they are nice peeps! They will not harm innocent women and children!" However, "innocents" to the Muslim are those who are Muslim or who have converted to Islam. Period. The rest of us are pigs and infidels.
lsleveland 1 year ago
@sanjor8r It doesn't say "kill all disbeilevers" it says "kill these disbeilevers" if you read that sura you will understand that "these disbeilevers" are the ones who killed muslims and invaded their cities so it is a sura about self defense and it mentions war is only good to defend you people and I think that sura shows Islam is peaceful because it "only" allows you to fight with people who is a threat for your people
Lunelitius 9 months ago
@sanjor8r it dont say that
where do u think it says that
come on man make an argument based on truth not some trash u were told somewhere
TheSockher 8 months ago
@sanjor8r You probably were licking Rush Limbaugh's ass. I didn't find that anywhere.
BabyBang17datruth 8 months ago
I think this rant is more about Cenk being a muslim himself trather than him believing in the constitution so passionately. I always found him to be an intelligent and engaging host on the Young Turks show but here he is displaying his bias very clearly. He should accept that for many Americans this is a real and sensitive issue.
chewie2240 1 year ago
@chewie2240 Cenk is not a muslim he is an atheist, he's not bias at all, he's making the point that an entire religion should not be judged by what their extremists do because all religions have extremists!
gwl1983 1 year ago
Cenk makes a very good point but logic falls deaf on dumb bigoted ears. You might as well be having a debate with a brick wall.
RightWingHunter666 1 year ago
@RightWingHunter666
Cenk should be tossed from an airplane.
Gulfporter 1 year ago
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911 ✡ ✈ ▌▌
The constitution of US has all ready being changed by the Zionist Jewish lobby and NOT by Muslims in US.
jasonthemankiller 1 year ago
No mosque.
America and other members of the Empire need to beat Islam back into its cave.
Gulfporter 1 year ago
@Gulfporter
wow you are soooooo so ignorant, no mosque huh? so we sacrificed over 4,000 american soldiers to free the ppl in iraq from saddams tyranny & give them religious freedom, yet, they cant come to the u.s. & build a mosque in manhatton ?
wtf ?
NightManiacsInc 1 year ago
@NightManiacsInc
Let them build their mosque in Iraq
Gulfporter 1 year ago
Fuck muslims. Look at how radical muslims are shaking America today; 9:11, the southpark scandal, sharia law ect. But comparing muslims to nazis is not sick at all, because last time i checked it is a religion of pure HATRED for any body who does not fallow it. And IMO radical muslims DO represent all of them because how many muslims do you see protesting and fighting against radicals? 0. If muslims dont like the fact that we dont want that mosque there they can get the fuck out of my country.
zr2chevypickupman 1 year ago
@zr2chevypickupman
muslims don't hate the other religions .
I have a christian friend and I love his personality regardless his religion .
you are just a racist ... that's all
and you know nothing about islam,^_^
al7aader 1 year ago
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@al7aader
Fuck you. Fuck islam. Fuck the Vatican. Fuck superstitious bullshit.
Gulfporter 1 year ago
@zr2chevypickupman
christianity is a religion of PURE hatred, all of the major world wars have been started by christians, the crusaders, the inquisition, the salem witch trials, etc.
christianity has by far been the most violent religion in history, that is fact btw
now btw,i dont actually believe christianity is of pure hatred,i just wanted to sound like an dumb ignorant fuck like yourself
mohammad salman was a new york EMT & police cadet who died saving ppl from the wtc. & he was a muslim
NightManiacsInc 1 year ago
@NightManiacsInc
Not even good as a tool for making a point. Japan's wars, China's wars, India's regional wars, Genghis Khan, the Ottoman Empire, the Moslem conquest of Africa and the Moslem invasion of Europe both centuries ago and today, the Islamic invasion of the Far East and the Pacific, the Islamic terrorism in INdonesia, Nigeria, the Philippines....
The Greek Empire, the Roman Empire, the Mali Empire.... not Christian.
Fail.
Gulfporter 1 year ago
@Gulfporter
look dude im a true American, i believe in freedom of religion, thats what makes us better than the other countries, not only do they have the legal right to build it anywhere but also
there were only a few hundred Al Quida members that attacked us, there are 1.5billion peaceful muslims many muslims died rescuing victims including mohammad salman
theres already a mosque 4blocks away its been there for decades
2 stories of the wtc were for muslim prayer space, MORON!
NightManiacsInc 1 year ago
@NightManiacsInc
Thank you for sharing. These people will try to do here what they are doing in Europe: use our liberal governments and philosophy to invade and attack us from behind our own lines. The vulnerability of our constitution to be exploited by our enemies was known at the time it was created. it was created with the understanding and expectation that Americans would also exercise common sense. Every moslem who is not Al Quaida is not by default peaceful. Islam is a cancer. Moron.
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@Gulfporter
"It was created with the understanding and expectation that Americans would also excercise common sense"yea like not letting the government pick&choose where ppl can & can't worship MORON!
& if Islam is a cancer then why did Mohammad Salman, a muslim, sacrifice his life to save his fellow Americans during 9/11? he wasnt the only one
&his mom in a CBS interview said"Are we not American? Did we not sacrifice?", he is not filled with pure hatred like glenn beck will have you believe
NightManiacsInc 1 year ago
@NightManiacsInc
Glenn Beck is a mormon, ie a cancer.
Gulfporter 1 year ago
@Gulfporter
well at least you're not that dumb
NightManiacsInc 1 year ago
@Gulfporter
oh btw
so Islam=Cancer
Morman=Cancer
Christianity= ?
NightManiacsInc 1 year ago
@NightManiacsInc
Mostly boring and stupid, kind of fun at Christmas, annoying in the hands of Baptists
Gulfporter 1 year ago
@Gulfporter
how are they not a cancer though ?
they started world war 1 world war 2
killed all the indians, took their lands & started building churches everywhere
plus they say things like "thank god for dead for dead soldiers" at soldiers' funerals
idk about these christians . .
NightManiacsInc 1 year ago
@NightManiacsInc
"they started world war 1 world war 2
killed all the indians, took their lands & started building churches everywhere"
Christianity was not a primary function in these events.
Gulfporter 1 year ago
@Gulfporter
so !
It is a fact that Christianity has been the most violent religion in world.
& what about the guy who bombed the abortion clinics based christian views, how is christianity not a cancer ?
is it because most Americans are christians & many of the ppl you know & love are also christian?
I've known my friend faraz since i was like 11 & now we're going to the same college, he's a muslim, & trust me he's not filled with hatred, he's one of the coolest dudes you'll ever meet
NightManiacsInc 1 year ago
@NightManiacsInc
"It is a fact that Christianity has been the most violent religion in world."
Not really a fact. But not really relevant either. Islam is invasive, it is not a part of our culture. So even if Christianity leaves something to be desired, and of course it does, then it still doesn't mean that we need another stupid superstition at work.
And the two don't really compare. Eric Rudolph was not acting with the approval of the church hierarchy or mass dancing cheerleaders.
Gulfporter 1 year ago
@NightManiacsInc
"is it because most Americans are christians & many of the ppl you know & love are also christian?"
Search on You Tube islam + england, and also watch Pat Condell on Islam .... please. Then you will understand my animosity. I'm sure your friend Faraz is nice to you, he is however part of a number which will reach a point at which the militancy will accelerate. We're already seeing the militancy in Dearborn and elsewhere with CAIR, and the sheer arrogance of the 911 Mosque.
Gulfporter 1 year ago
@Gulfporter
look dude, im pretty sure you've never had close friends that are muslim like me, because if you did you wouldnt buy into all this hype that they are evil terrorists, Al Quida is a very narrow branch of Islam, only a few hundred Al Quida members existed when they attacked us on 911 meanwhile1.5billion others are not trying to attack us,& either way they are Americans just like me &you & they definitely have the right to build a mosque there, theres already one 4 blocks from the WTC
NightManiacsInc 1 year ago
@NightManiacsInc
I don't "buy into all this hype that they are evil terrorists", but you are buying into your belief that anyone who is against Islamic migration must be stupid. You are a nice person and it doesn't matter. What I don't think you get is that I don't like what's happening in Europe. Al Quaida isn't raping and maiming people in Europe, common street muslims are, and the reason they can do it is because of the large numbers of "peaceful muslims" giving them political cover.
Gulfporter 1 year ago
@Gulfporter
look i dont have a problem with you hating al quida or wanting to stop them, of course we should they are evil ppl, but al quida is only a few hundred maybe a few thousand muslims, thats less than 1% of muslims, so don't smear the whole religion, because the fact is the muslims that arent in al quida do hate al quida & vice versa, i mean there were 2 floors in the WTC that were soley for muslim prayer space & there were many muslim firefighters who were all killed by al quida
NightManiacsInc 1 year ago
@Gulfporter I can't understand the ignorance of people who claim they have Muslim friends who are nice guys, therefore Islam must be a good religion. I had a boss that was the nicest guy you could meet. He also was in the German Army in WWII. So to use these apologist logic, Nazism was a good ideolgy because I knew one who was a nice guy.
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dancinkindofguy 1 year ago
I like this guy. But I think Obama said he wouldn't question the "wisdom" of building a monque. I think this is right. It's not anyone business how wise or unwise, how politically correct or incorrect, how tasteful or distasteful, building any place of worship is. The question shouldn't be on the table, not in the US.
brelfan 1 year ago
your very knowledgeable of what is happening,thank you for proving that not all muslims r terrorists,the bombing and stuff like that..
PAINISTHEGAME54 1 year ago
Thjey want it built there to send a message. There are many other places to build it. Turk the jerk is a Muslim. This guy is really a hating jerk.
bnjones28 1 year ago
Cenk you are a turkish Mussie...you just don't get it....
followthemoney100 1 year ago
I think Newt was referring to the RADICAL muslims, not all muslims
LogSNES 1 year ago
@LogSNES
shut the fuck up newt gingrich is a hate filled fuck
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LogSNES 1 year ago
there are no moderate Muslims right?? It is a hateful religion. If Muslims were truly upset about the radicals in the religion they would be standing out against it...where are the Muslims protesting the radicals? no where. case closed.
capsnb42 1 year ago
nazism and facism are rooted in sharia law
leonarddaccardi 1 year ago
ill build a taco stand next to the white house
OMFGsf 1 year ago
this is a right guy to be a presedent in America.
saudi353 1 year ago
obama hates america and loves brown people! this country was built on racism and hatred of others by the doctrine of oppression. bring back slavery!
/end sarcasm
redryan20000 1 year ago
ARE YOU CRYING TODAY CENK? WAAAAAWAAAAAWAAAA
swolen4 1 year ago
En buyuk CENK! Baska buyuk yok!
n8glenn 1 year ago
i like this man a great deal
johnnyrockerfella 1 year ago 33
"I couldn't care less if you're a black, a muslim, a chinaman, a mexican, an irish bug, a wop, a dago, a roach, a spic, an A-rab, spear chucker, bohunk, hymie, homo, or whatever. I just hate you and don't want you near me or my kids. That's not a problem with me, it's a problem with you".
-every American over 50
IDCFFSGTFO 1 year ago 3
@IDCFFSGTFO When did being "Muslim" become a "race" Einstein?
Typical ignorant American, no wonder the educational system is compared to a third world cesspool.
993ironman 1 year ago
@IDCFFSGTFO Yep, and i don't want your filthy Christian Missionaries anywhere near my kids.
Cheers!
993ironman 1 year ago
@993ironman You fail @ recognizing sarcasm, recognizing satire, and recognizing the fact that I had quotation marks around a quote that i then attributed to the kind of person CENK is talking about.
I'm not really saying those things, learn to read before you go off half cocked... lol im an athiest and don't worry I don't want to go anywhere near your kids...
IDCFFSGTFO 1 year ago
@IDCFFSGTFO Good to know. My Remington760 sits right near me if you ever plan to get your pedophile face anywhere near my home.
993ironman 1 year ago
@993ironman good to know, i think ill come by and rape your face with your own gun, fail troll faggot
done with you
IDCFFSGTFO 1 year ago
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@IDCFFSGTFO Waiting.
Done with you a long time ago asshole.
993ironman 1 year ago
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@IDCFFSGTFO "good to know, i think ill come by and rape your face with your own gun, fail troll faggot"
Says the little bitch who hides his youtube profile. Fucking joker.
993ironman 1 year ago
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I LOVE THIS MAN !!!!
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jayzq8 1 year ago
People are exploiting and demagogically abusing this issue. Spreading propaganda, biases & personal opinions about the proposed Mosque in order to promote and move forward a political agenda which is ultimately a fight over religious freedom and religious speech. Let me give you a example of radical Christians at work in the states. Everyone knows that the Westboro Baptist church has no affiliation whatsoever with the actual Baptists right? So why can't they apply the same logic here? Bingo!
993ironman 1 year ago
@hfiosl Well said. "IF" they can prove that this specific Islamic center is being developed by radical extremists/funded and have the idea of a victory mosque near ground zero than as a Muslim i will be against the plan. Other than that, there is no real reason why people should see this Islamic center as a threat, freedom of religion applies to everyone. Even the extra-terrestrial who decide to migrate in the near-future. Freedom of religion should be adopted to every single nation on earth.
993ironman 1 year ago
@hfiosl Hey fucktard I could care less if you were buddhist. It doesn't matter. American tries TOOO fucking tolerant sometimes that's the problem
MrCodered98 1 year ago
You fucking americans deserve to be incinerated, nuked, destroyed. You american shits dont deserve to die. I hope the Muslims take a shit on you, america. You fucking cowards.
Seigu007 1 year ago
@Seigu007 thats not nice man, calm down bro, some americans are the best people you will see in the world. but yes, there are some who go abit too far. but we should then reply peacfuly, and sensibly.
Asassin57 1 year ago
@Seigu007 LOL, Mad cuz America is the greatest... and always will be
bunbun5877 1 year ago
@bunbun5877 Wrong..
therockiscookin077 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@hfiosl "...you are on the wrong side of this issue."
Since I am wrong can you tell me what YOU would call a man over 50 who has sex with a 9 year old child?
You can really help out your buddy Enterthetruth because he's under the impression that an 8 year old girl is mature.
Both of you seem to be "raised correctly" as you say, so can you tell me why it's NOT wrong for a 50 + year old man to have sex with a 9 year old girl?
I'll be waiting for your enlightened answers.
sirjambo 1 year ago
@hfiosl wow! are you really a nice and educated person? on youtube?? its a miracle!! thank you my jewish brother in humanity, thank you
EnterTheTruth 1 year ago
What a fucking Idiot this Cenk jerkoff is. Hey Retard he wasn't comparing muslims to nazis, that was an example. Besides they might even be worse than Nazis, the Nazis were just smarter and had a lot of more power, these muslim extremists have neither.
MrCodered98 1 year ago
shame on evil islam
Tonyukmma 1 year ago