The people around me always say that if God exist, science must be wrong, and if science is right, God can't exist. Well, this guy says it in the best way possible. He says that science and religion does NOT overlap, and basically that God created science to create life in a natural way...That's how I got it at least ;)
I love this man, he is BRILLIANT. What he says about 'hubris' is so precise, so fitting of the modern savants of science. Those who slavishly, arrogantly and dogmatically cling to the materialistic view, despite ALL the evidence from modern biochemistry, astrophysics, quantum physics etc, etc pointing to a universe so divinely precise, so finely tuned, so mind numbingly complex as to render the mere idea that it could have come about WITHOUT a superior intelligence as ludicrous.
I personally am atheist. However, I respect this man for actually talking science, and filling in the intricate dots with a respectful view of a god, which is somewhat reasonable. This is the closest to the answer, not "I KNOW HE'S REAL!!!!!!! BUT I DON"T HAVE PROOF!!!!!". This is the closest theists will get to proof, (respectfully) and its pretty accurate. I just fill in the questions a different way.
I respect you for your comment. You acknowledge and respect a theist's values and beliefs, unlike most atheists who will blatantly call us "idiots" and claim we have no proof. Science and religion are one, you cannot have one without the questions of the other, and that's what is amazing. But I will admit, some theists are rather uneducated and give us a bad name which I find insulting... These types I tend to call "extremists".
@TheGoodThought I have never met any Physicist who is an Atheist (I'm an Engineer and have taught Calculus at the University level [As a Masters student - I do not have a PHD] so I know several big named Physicists). Robert Griffiths once said (physics professor at Carnegie Mellon), "If I'm looking for an Atheist to debate I go to the Philosophy department, the Physics department is no use".
that was amazing, and really made me think. Right now I'm going through alot of questioning about life, God, existence, fate etc...and this helped in my search for the truth. thanks.
Although I disagree with some of this guy's theist points, I can't tell you how nice it is to see someone arguing for god's existence who is an actual scientist! The world needs more people who use reason and science to search for god.
@ItsEasyIfYouThink It's not common for a scientist to think outside the box like this. Their careers are centered around what can be physically proven, and there's really very little to go on with the level of science that's available to us.
We are all like fish in an ocean, trying to prove the existance of a life on land. It's not easy to do, when all you know is water. :-)
Finally, a man that can give a rational example of creation rather than an emotional one, we need more guys around like him. Here's a man that knows how to think.
I'm not a Jew but I could listen to this guy talk for longer than 31 minutes, that was very interesting and he speaks in a way that has me sitting on the edge of my seat.
There is no way life could have come about by chance, the processes it would take all together would be a miracle in and of itself, I just can't imagine I (we) could be that fortunate, if you dismiss those odds as nothing then you haven't meditated on it long enough and you are being overly dismissive to say the least..
The finely-tuned universe argument- and probably the best example of it i've ever heard. I come away from this still an atheist, but I can respect the man for trying. Why the universe seems so finely tuned for us is because we were created for the world, not the other way around. And the universe is so massive, Earth itself was an inevitability.
This was very enjoyable. Although it's clear that his scientific understanding does not reach very far, he has made the best case I have seen for the "Life is to complex to not have a creator" argument. This video's merit lies not within the science he attempts to discredit, but in the way he gets you to really think about the "why" factor.
@Kingding6 What, specifically, are you referring to when you say, "...it's clear that his scientific understanding does not reach very far..."?
He is a physicist (B.Sc. Chemical engineering, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, M.Sc. Earth and planetary sciences, M.I.T., PhD Earth Sciences and Physics, M.I.T.), he invented & patented the first real time monitor for airborne alpha beta gamma emitters, he has consulted for agencies of the governments of many nations, etc.
@cnestudy1 Anything by Dr. Hugh Ross or Dr. Norman Geisler. You might also find vids here on YT to be very interesting such as: The Privileged Planet and Unlocking the Mystery of Life.
Just when I thought all hope was gone, I run across this. There truly is a mind behind all this and we are part of that mind. How completely calming a thought.
Science has proven that life has a blueprint, blueprints don't draw themselves. Science has proven that the universe operates under laws, laws don't draft themselves. Science has proven that the universe had a beginning, everything with a beginning has a cause. Our universe has a cause that exists beyond itself.
science has only discovered and understands only 10% of the universe, so for me for people to put all their trust in man is illogical, the reality is the more logical thinking is that god exists and there is much more to this life than we can see with our mere human eyes!!
I am only seventeen, but for the brunt of my life, I have been an atheist. Still now, I am a doubtful person because I cannot even piece together illogical concepts like faith. I live by logic, and I have never been able to escape it long enough to become a believer. Lately though, I have doubted my own doubt (as weird as that sounds). A part of me has been yearning to marry science with God, but up until now, I never could. After seeing this video, a hope in me has certainly grown, and I can s
Youll find that...the more you seek the truth, the closer you get to discovering God- the author of love and the universe - something cool to check out is "There is a God" by Antony Flew (Ex notorious atheist of 50 years)
Atheism: The belief that there was nothing, nothing happened to nothing, and nothing spontaneously exploded into everything while everything formed into self replicating bits called dinosaurs.........Makes Perfect Sense.
@darianpearson I quite agree. Atheism has always struck me as the most ridiculous notion imaginable , an un-intelligent response to intelligence, purpose from purposelessness. It's so obviously ridiculous. Hydrogen shaken or stirred, doesn't develop a conscience and appreciation of poetry. It's so ridiculous.
The ultimate philosophical question is the meaning of life and reason for our existence. I do not see any practical implementation of looking for this answer since it can not be fully proved or disproved. It can only be achieved through faith, which has a lot of benefits for an individual. But what am I supposed to do with my logic and reason? Would I be dishonest to my creator if I do not use these tools that he gave me to scrutinize the very idea of God's existence? Question of my life...
@vadich1234 Very briefly , you are asserting a number of popular fallacies. The answer can be found by reason and logic and will be found in modern realistic philosophy, which is where you go to answer such metaphysical questoins. Mortimer Adler's "SIx Great IDea" whch include the idea of truth, beauty , justice and other core concepts we have about life is a good place to start if you want an answer that appeals to the mind. He also wrote, "How to think about God". Good luck
Science shows us that the universe is really well designed for life. Someone would have to be ignorant to disrespect that. The universe did not create us from scratch, the Creator of the universe did.
These questions may always plague us. In the end, it's just a matter of faith. Proving anything infinite is near impossible for the human brain to wrap around. Therefore, it is impossible to disprove or prove God who is infinite in power, knowledge, space, and time. I happen to believe in God. I agree with Dr. Schroeder here.
yes, but even with the million monkeys theory, what are also the chances that YOU would be born and exist on that millionth of a millionth. It makes no sense from a maximization of utility point of view, we're only here because something needs us to be.
Bravo!!!! It is an amazing logical structure of deduction. I beleive it is so simple it just slips the mind. 31:19 min is just not enough. I envy your students and cooworkers.
Can someone explain the "gain" in knowing why we exist? Does it help me make better computer programs? Does it help me in completing a nintendo game? Nope... just... don't ask why things "are"... we don't need to know, it's pointless. Here, have another drink.
Yes, because of course since the universe is hostile to life, it just so happened that it ended up RANDOMLY bringing together a right sized rock planet with a right size moon in a right sized sun to come together by random chemicals to structured biological processes, diversity of life through sexual reproduction (which came out of other random chemicals), genes, and then evolution happened to work VERY well with all this. Water cycle, carbon cycle, nitrogen cycle, etc.
@hyonchingonchon Its the same principle as saying that a million monkeys at a million typewriters will, if given long enough, eventually produce the works of Shakespeare. Its a safe assumption to say that most stars contain a solar system around them. With the sheer number of solar systems in this galaxy alone, its really not that hard to believe that life could spring up on one. For all we know, we actually aren't the only life forms in the universe.
@shinkusenshi It doesn't matter how many solar systems there are... life is exponentially unlikely, so to say it's not hard to believe life could spring up... I disagree with. We shouldn't be here, period, but we are.
@shinkusenshi Yup, there could be other life out there ....
But a million monkeys eventually producing works of the quality of Shakespeare? Not likely. Unless you can prove the time and chance will teach them to use language like Shakespeare without any human intervention.
He asks whether there is any "objective" data of divine revelation.The cutting edge of consciousness research seems to be converging towards Quantum physics, hence we (at best) live in a multijective universe - no objectivity. ( EPR paradox and other experiments). Consciousness collapses the existing waveforms to a conscious reality. Anyone recall that an electron is only a particle when it is observed?
On page 2 of [/u]God According to God[/u], Schroeder writes "Each of our three local cultures[Judaism, Christianity, and Islam] yearns to address the one God, Creator of the universe. We may use different languages, but the sense of an underlying unity remains."
@Sjarke98 At the end of this video you will see a link for another video called "A Rational Approach To The Divine Origin of Judaism" which will tell you why he chose Judaism. Alternatively you can click on my username and find it.
At 6:20 is he refering to the cambrien explosion? Isnt that the layer of rock where we find a veritable explosion in the diversity and complexity of life? below that is almost nothing right?
The powerful argument seems to be that we are "light beams" and gee we are so complex that we cannot be created by chance. Perhaps DNA was not created on earth, but likely somewhere else. Maybe Dr. Schroeder can't explain it, but some else can now or later. That is no compelling argument for the existence of God.
Hes not talking only of us, hes talking about the universe existence. Ok somebody could create our DNA, but this is the point. Somebody. In this somebody couldnt be created by chance.
@Andrewlohbihler if DNA were created somewhere else, that just moves the problem from one planet to another. The arise of unbelievably complex organic systems from a pool of muck by chance, is utter foolishness
The problem I have with this so called "proof of God" is that God can mean tons and tons of various things. What you call God is what someone else calls something else. Seriously, God is not a well defined thing...there's no coherent definition that's agreed upon by believers, so it's nearly impossible to even talk about it.
So your saying is we have a connection whether you like it or not? check out the psychology behind atheism and learn something about yourself...it sounds like daddy issues to me...whatever IT is, IT has a sense of humour... IT let me hit u with a heavenly burn...burn. sorry im just bord
Why do you need evidence to believe in god? Its called faith! You cant see love right? Yet its real because you feel it. I know god is real cause I feel it in my heart and believe it in my heart. Why should god reveal himself to you if you mock him and say he dont exist? Just cause YOU want him too? He reveals himself to those who believe in him, both physically and spiritually. God is real whether anyone wants to admit it or not. when you see him one day what will be your excuse? God bless?
Yes, Life is tuned to the universe, but the argument presented is that the mere existence of Life is improbable.
Do you expect life to exist in the center of the Sun? No matter how fine-tuned life is to its environment, if the environment is too harsh than life cannot exist.
Using your analogy, it would be more like the probability the arrow came into existence in the first place.
Aristotle actually popularized the idea of the earth being round in the 3rd century BC. Eratosthenes caculated the circumference of the earth, with relitive accuracy, in the 2nd century BC. The scholars during Colombus' day scoffed at him because he believed the earth was smaller than it actually was, and what they knew it was. The reason we believe they thought the earth was flat is from a book written by Washington Irving.
the first one is easy why is there existence? because there is, if there was not we would not be asking this question now would we. The how it all happened is a much more interesting question and as we learn more about the how we might get some clues on the why.
No matter how much we intellectualize, it remains true that some things are unknowable. We will never know the answer to the primordial existence question. Thus, we have faith.
as an agnostic, i find this guy really intelligent. ive been studying the points of view from atheists and this guy, so far what these man says is way superior than what dawkins or other atheist say, its more logical and more intelligent
That is a common question. The Bible says that God exists in eternity. That is that time itself is something He created. Where He is, there is no difference between past, present, and future. Therefore, from the standpoint of humans living in time, He simply always was.
VanGoshsEar1890: We live in a unviverse that has time and space. So we wonder what happened in the "past". We know that every effect has a "cause". The effect is the universe, so what was it's cause? If there's a creator, then he is not "in" time, he is not "in" space and so we can't wonder what happened to him in the "past" since there's no time outside this universe. God would not be an effect, so there'd be no "cause". Time is the unfolding of matter. God is not made of matter.
The Creator is posited as existing beyond time or outside of time so your question doesn't make any sense because nothing can exist before the Creator.
i love his statement that we are all condensed light beams that just happened to come alive, or as carl sagan said, we evolved from star stuff, which is such a beautiful way to connect us to everyone and everything including time and space. but how on earth does that mean there is a creator? Dr. Schroeder said it himself, we just happened to come alive.
to say the universe is perfectly tuned for life is the same as a fish saying, thank god for water. there couldn't be any other alternative...
i am at 18:50 and this real smart guy is starting to lose me. he keeps asking how light beams can laugh, cry and be cognizant of consciousness etc. but if light beams were able to become planets and waterfalls, why not us? why refer to us as now as lightbeams, it's like referring to jet fuel as a dead dinosaur, or a an italian suite as a cotton ball.
Good question. I guess it instantly and mutually destroys faith in and the non-belief in God. But the again, since we are imperfect beings with limited capacites, we will still have to have faith in God and we can only understand the physical world with science. Hence I mean to say that faith and science, and you can have faith in science, in terms that it can solve the answers to our various quesions, go hand-in-hand, and separating the two is little more than a divide-and-conquer scheme.
Science answers so much for us, but it is by its very definition, LIMITED to the natural world.
If we are honest with ourselves, we must admit that there exists things that do not conform to natural science. After all, science can and will never be able to explain how matter came into existence, much less purpose, meaning and morality.
If there was ever a case for a creator, this guy is on to it.
Jcm9991 4 weeks ago
@Jcm9991 Agreed
anandvyasorg 2 weeks ago
Thank you for posting this video. Dr. Schroeder is brilliant!
HellFireKane 2 months ago
The people around me always say that if God exist, science must be wrong, and if science is right, God can't exist. Well, this guy says it in the best way possible. He says that science and religion does NOT overlap, and basically that God created science to create life in a natural way...That's how I got it at least ;)
FilmForceStudio 2 months ago
I love this man, he is BRILLIANT. What he says about 'hubris' is so precise, so fitting of the modern savants of science. Those who slavishly, arrogantly and dogmatically cling to the materialistic view, despite ALL the evidence from modern biochemistry, astrophysics, quantum physics etc, etc pointing to a universe so divinely precise, so finely tuned, so mind numbingly complex as to render the mere idea that it could have come about WITHOUT a superior intelligence as ludicrous.
stardust260872 3 months ago
wow
TheVoiceofReason17 4 months ago
Wow. Very well put.
joshlim2nddegree 5 months ago
What a great vid. Thanks. Now i have to see the next one.
IdaSputum 5 months ago
I personally am atheist. However, I respect this man for actually talking science, and filling in the intricate dots with a respectful view of a god, which is somewhat reasonable. This is the closest to the answer, not "I KNOW HE'S REAL!!!!!!! BUT I DON"T HAVE PROOF!!!!!". This is the closest theists will get to proof, (respectfully) and its pretty accurate. I just fill in the questions a different way.
TheGoodThought 5 months ago 36
@TheGoodThought
I respect you for your comment. You acknowledge and respect a theist's values and beliefs, unlike most atheists who will blatantly call us "idiots" and claim we have no proof. Science and religion are one, you cannot have one without the questions of the other, and that's what is amazing. But I will admit, some theists are rather uneducated and give us a bad name which I find insulting... These types I tend to call "extremists".
JohnEliasOnSTEAM 5 months ago 6
@TheGoodThought I have never met any Physicist who is an Atheist (I'm an Engineer and have taught Calculus at the University level [As a Masters student - I do not have a PHD] so I know several big named Physicists). Robert Griffiths once said (physics professor at Carnegie Mellon), "If I'm looking for an Atheist to debate I go to the Philosophy department, the Physics department is no use".
lion575 2 months ago
my mind's been blown...
AvatarKris 6 months ago 4
thank you for this gives me peace of mind
wtf9171275 6 months ago
that was amazing, and really made me think. Right now I'm going through alot of questioning about life, God, existence, fate etc...and this helped in my search for the truth. thanks.
MoustacheCloud 6 months ago 16
he's a pretty honest guy. I might not generally agree with him, but I certainly respect him.
CarlSagan6 6 months ago 3
Although I disagree with some of this guy's theist points, I can't tell you how nice it is to see someone arguing for god's existence who is an actual scientist! The world needs more people who use reason and science to search for god.
ItsEasyIfYouThink 6 months ago 10
@ItsEasyIfYouThink It's not common for a scientist to think outside the box like this. Their careers are centered around what can be physically proven, and there's really very little to go on with the level of science that's available to us.
We are all like fish in an ocean, trying to prove the existance of a life on land. It's not easy to do, when all you know is water. :-)
NemeanLion 5 months ago 2
Finally, a man that can give a rational example of creation rather than an emotional one, we need more guys around like him. Here's a man that knows how to think.
H0tkebab 6 months ago 7
I'm not a Jew but I could listen to this guy talk for longer than 31 minutes, that was very interesting and he speaks in a way that has me sitting on the edge of my seat.
There is no way life could have come about by chance, the processes it would take all together would be a miracle in and of itself, I just can't imagine I (we) could be that fortunate, if you dismiss those odds as nothing then you haven't meditated on it long enough and you are being overly dismissive to say the least..
TruthSeekingOne 6 months ago 13
I found this very well thought out.
HaloandDBZFan345 6 months ago
This is one of the better arguments for a creator ive come across.
mcai9mh3 7 months ago
The finely-tuned universe argument- and probably the best example of it i've ever heard. I come away from this still an atheist, but I can respect the man for trying. Why the universe seems so finely tuned for us is because we were created for the world, not the other way around. And the universe is so massive, Earth itself was an inevitability.
steviej321 7 months ago 10
480p makes a great audio difference.
Ril3y00 7 months ago
This was very enjoyable. Although it's clear that his scientific understanding does not reach very far, he has made the best case I have seen for the "Life is to complex to not have a creator" argument. This video's merit lies not within the science he attempts to discredit, but in the way he gets you to really think about the "why" factor.
Kingding6 7 months ago
@Kingding6 What, specifically, are you referring to when you say, "...it's clear that his scientific understanding does not reach very far..."?
He is a physicist (B.Sc. Chemical engineering, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, M.Sc. Earth and planetary sciences, M.I.T., PhD Earth Sciences and Physics, M.I.T.), he invented & patented the first real time monitor for airborne alpha beta gamma emitters, he has consulted for agencies of the governments of many nations, etc.
Qorlaq 6 months ago 11
Very interesting, I've been an atheist for several years but I must admit this man makes a very strong case.
rimfa123 7 months ago 3
I can't imagine a more hostile environment for life than our Universe. We exist in an incredibly rare and temporary bubble for life.
rcguy69 8 months ago 11
@rcguy69 Damn, that's a good thought!
YorianSevenfold 6 months ago
All I can really say is wow!
Better than any argument an atheist could make, in my own opinion.
Lody230794 8 months ago
@cnestudy1 Anything by Dr. Hugh Ross or Dr. Norman Geisler. You might also find vids here on YT to be very interesting such as: The Privileged Planet and Unlocking the Mystery of Life.
cheers
rustyshadow7 8 months ago
woah..... he had a rocky start there, but nearing the end, he really blew my mind...
cevune 8 months ago
I'm still on the fence about all this stuff, but this guy makes a good case.
pubeonapipe 9 months ago
Very thoughtful certainly helps us believe in God. It is hard to believe that our planet, amongst millions has life by mere chance.
StephenBeaumont1 9 months ago
ahhhhhhh.
thats the good stuff.
2 thumbs way way up!
Tartersauce101 10 months ago 3
this is a great lecture, makes sense
bankaisaint 10 months ago
Just when I thought all hope was gone, I run across this. There truly is a mind behind all this and we are part of that mind. How completely calming a thought.
Jinxed007 10 months ago 4
"The harmony of natural law reveals an Intelligence of such superiority that,
compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings
is an utterly insignificant reflection."
Einstein
erice495able 10 months ago 10
Wow.. Thanks for converting me. God bless you
TheTyJak 11 months ago 11
@TheTyJak amen
theRedgyro 9 months ago
Science has proven that life has a blueprint, blueprints don't draw themselves. Science has proven that the universe operates under laws, laws don't draft themselves. Science has proven that the universe had a beginning, everything with a beginning has a cause. Our universe has a cause that exists beyond itself.
RCTPatriot75 11 months ago 20
science has only discovered and understands only 10% of the universe, so for me for people to put all their trust in man is illogical, the reality is the more logical thinking is that god exists and there is much more to this life than we can see with our mere human eyes!!
m9ronaldo 11 months ago 18
@m9ronaldo not even .001% actually :P but I completely agree
DeeTeeproductions 10 months ago
@m9ronaldo Yes!!! Finally somebody that put to one side the arrogance I've been seeing around, I totally agree!
kuba2ve 8 months ago
amazing
father042 11 months ago
I embrace science and discovery, and I have to say that this made a lot more sense than I thought it would.
zymethpwn 11 months ago 5
I am only seventeen, but for the brunt of my life, I have been an atheist. Still now, I am a doubtful person because I cannot even piece together illogical concepts like faith. I live by logic, and I have never been able to escape it long enough to become a believer. Lately though, I have doubted my own doubt (as weird as that sounds). A part of me has been yearning to marry science with God, but up until now, I never could. After seeing this video, a hope in me has certainly grown, and I can s
kainlvr 11 months ago 15
@kainlvr dude thats awesome!
Youll find that...the more you seek the truth, the closer you get to discovering God- the author of love and the universe - something cool to check out is "There is a God" by Antony Flew (Ex notorious atheist of 50 years)
pjtrain 11 months ago
As a Christian I want to say THANK YOU for this outstanding video. It is good for all believers. What a brilliant series of arguments!
Thank you rabbi!
KTK401 1 year ago
There is a God: How the World's Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind
patriatich 1 year ago 3
It's amazing how anyone can be absolutely confident that God does not exist with videos like this out there.
lnTheFlesh 1 year ago 11
The big bang created only light... We are made of light waves...
Einstein's theory of relativity means that time is relative to (and therefore dependent on) light, so time cannot exist without light.
Book of Genesis... the FIRST thing God speaks into existence is LIGHT, hence the beginning of TIME.
Not the universe, not the earth, but light...
Sounds to me like the 'big bang' was God's booming voice...
dreamrequiem212 1 year ago 19
@dreamrequiem212 never though a youtube comment could give me goosebumps, yours just did
roberttt20 7 months ago
@dreamrequiem212 Your'e the man!
ultramarine1234 3 months ago
@dreamrequiem212 great answer!
CarniTHC 3 months ago
@dreamrequiem212 Haha awesome. Best comment ever. =)
GagaIsAMonster 1 month ago
Man this guy makes sense.
najam133 1 year ago
Did he ever adress why there is negativity in the world and such?
minimullen 1 year ago
@minimullen it's called freewill!
pieterwesley 1 year ago
His points are good, I only wish he expressed himself a bit more philosophically.
KittenButter 1 year ago
Very interesting
heinno777 1 year ago
Brilliant!
onixjoel 1 year ago
Fantastic points!
MarkBTW 1 year ago
Atheism: The belief that there was nothing, nothing happened to nothing, and nothing spontaneously exploded into everything while everything formed into self replicating bits called dinosaurs.........Makes Perfect Sense.
darianpearson 1 year ago
@darianpearson BRAVO
xox1234xox 1 year ago
@darianpearson I quite agree. Atheism has always struck me as the most ridiculous notion imaginable , an un-intelligent response to intelligence, purpose from purposelessness. It's so obviously ridiculous. Hydrogen shaken or stirred, doesn't develop a conscience and appreciation of poetry. It's so ridiculous.
Youdamana 1 year ago
@darianpearson amen xD
qxevt132 9 months ago
The ultimate philosophical question is the meaning of life and reason for our existence. I do not see any practical implementation of looking for this answer since it can not be fully proved or disproved. It can only be achieved through faith, which has a lot of benefits for an individual. But what am I supposed to do with my logic and reason? Would I be dishonest to my creator if I do not use these tools that he gave me to scrutinize the very idea of God's existence? Question of my life...
vadich1234 1 year ago
@vadich1234 Very briefly , you are asserting a number of popular fallacies. The answer can be found by reason and logic and will be found in modern realistic philosophy, which is where you go to answer such metaphysical questoins. Mortimer Adler's "SIx Great IDea" whch include the idea of truth, beauty , justice and other core concepts we have about life is a good place to start if you want an answer that appeals to the mind. He also wrote, "How to think about God". Good luck
Youdamana 1 year ago 4
i have the same problem, my own logic is my downfall, but this video helped me out a little bit, hope it did the same for you,
duelarcher 1 year ago 2
Science shows us that the universe is really well designed for life. Someone would have to be ignorant to disrespect that. The universe did not create us from scratch, the Creator of the universe did.
adam2O 1 year ago 5
I must say that the first ten minutes were actually respectable.
checkavailability212 1 year ago
I have to admit this guy is no dummy. Very compelling points for anyone willing to be objective.
oneleggedspider 1 year ago 8
Dr. shroeder, you the man!!!!!!!!!
amillification 1 year ago
The most enlightening 30 minutes of my life! I shed tears near the end out of sheer amazement of life and the Universe. This man is brilliant.
Zaphenath4 1 year ago
@leetbh energy came from big bang...electromagnetic energy. remember...light is electromagneic energy.
ethanoburu 1 year ago
Whether you believe in God or not, one this is for sure, this guy is brilliant...
nickpafras 1 year ago
Spot on!
mikeyd200285 1 year ago
@leetbh Massive amount of energy was released in the form of "light beams" after the incial big bang explosion.
Then cooled down and formed matter as we know it.
still4syntax 1 year ago
I'm dying to have a cup of coffee with this man!
Dr. Schroeder, if you ever come to Mexico, please stay at my house!
Not only is he asking the right questions, he's also very objective about his answers!
Forget sex, oil, jewelry, junk food and money...THIS is what is really important down here!
still4syntax 1 year ago 4
Dr. Schroeder gave a great Presentation..The guy is amazing
rollinglibs101 1 year ago
These questions may always plague us. In the end, it's just a matter of faith. Proving anything infinite is near impossible for the human brain to wrap around. Therefore, it is impossible to disprove or prove God who is infinite in power, knowledge, space, and time. I happen to believe in God. I agree with Dr. Schroeder here.
plymouthbaccaruda426 1 year ago 11
yes, but even with the million monkeys theory, what are also the chances that YOU would be born and exist on that millionth of a millionth. It makes no sense from a maximization of utility point of view, we're only here because something needs us to be.
CorkyRomano64 1 year ago
Bravo!!!! It is an amazing logical structure of deduction. I beleive it is so simple it just slips the mind. 31:19 min is just not enough. I envy your students and cooworkers.
Greetings from Mexico
polilla702 1 year ago
very profound.. love it!
coopmode 2 years ago
Can someone explain the "gain" in knowing why we exist? Does it help me make better computer programs? Does it help me in completing a nintendo game? Nope... just... don't ask why things "are"... we don't need to know, it's pointless. Here, have another drink.
izlude2 2 years ago 2
I really loved this. It made a lot of sense :)
imnotgonnadie1549 2 years ago
Yes, because of course since the universe is hostile to life, it just so happened that it ended up RANDOMLY bringing together a right sized rock planet with a right size moon in a right sized sun to come together by random chemicals to structured biological processes, diversity of life through sexual reproduction (which came out of other random chemicals), genes, and then evolution happened to work VERY well with all this. Water cycle, carbon cycle, nitrogen cycle, etc.
hyonchingonchon 2 years ago
@hyonchingonchon Its the same principle as saying that a million monkeys at a million typewriters will, if given long enough, eventually produce the works of Shakespeare. Its a safe assumption to say that most stars contain a solar system around them. With the sheer number of solar systems in this galaxy alone, its really not that hard to believe that life could spring up on one. For all we know, we actually aren't the only life forms in the universe.
shinkusenshi 1 year ago 2
@shinkusenshi Dr. Schroeder debunked the monkeys-typing-on-typewriters idea in this video at 18:56
simpletoremember 1 year ago
@shinkusenshi It doesn't matter how many solar systems there are... life is exponentially unlikely, so to say it's not hard to believe life could spring up... I disagree with. We shouldn't be here, period, but we are.
Limbsy 1 year ago
@shinkusenshi Yup, there could be other life out there ....
But a million monkeys eventually producing works of the quality of Shakespeare? Not likely. Unless you can prove the time and chance will teach them to use language like Shakespeare without any human intervention.
stgl1987 1 year ago
He is right, the parallel universe guess by Scientific American is extrordinarily disingenuous as to suggest dogma.
I would need a lot of "faith" to believe that one. And given the leap of faith required, why not choose a more reasoned approach suggested by faith?
naturaltechnologies 2 years ago
He asks whether there is any "objective" data of divine revelation.The cutting edge of consciousness research seems to be converging towards Quantum physics, hence we (at best) live in a multijective universe - no objectivity. ( EPR paradox and other experiments). Consciousness collapses the existing waveforms to a conscious reality. Anyone recall that an electron is only a particle when it is observed?
naturaltechnologies 2 years ago
Jinjj2009 I am glad you said it. I agree. Bless you.
Dhoketa 2 years ago
Even if he was correct, why did he become a Jew and not a Christian, Hindu or Muslim?
Sjarke98 2 years ago 104
thats a good question...read a book called the kuzari, it explains everything.
a non jewish king wanted to find the right religion and went through every religion and stuck with the jews...see why he did, it answers everything
jrummer221 2 years ago
@Sjarke98,
On page 2 of [/u]God According to God[/u], Schroeder writes "Each of our three local cultures[Judaism, Christianity, and Islam] yearns to address the one God, Creator of the universe. We may use different languages, but the sense of an underlying unity remains."
I like Schroeder's universalism.
TheFlanker35 1 year ago 7
@Sjarke98 At the end of this video you will see a link for another video called "A Rational Approach To The Divine Origin of Judaism" which will tell you why he chose Judaism. Alternatively you can click on my username and find it.
simpletoremember 11 months ago 21
@Sjarke98 Jews believe in God, they just don't believe Jesus is the Messiah.
oc1omaen 11 months ago
At 6:20 is he refering to the cambrien explosion? Isnt that the layer of rock where we find a veritable explosion in the diversity and complexity of life? below that is almost nothing right?
arktheball 2 years ago
The powerful argument seems to be that we are "light beams" and gee we are so complex that we cannot be created by chance. Perhaps DNA was not created on earth, but likely somewhere else. Maybe Dr. Schroeder can't explain it, but some else can now or later. That is no compelling argument for the existence of God.
Andrewlohbihler 2 years ago
Hes not talking only of us, hes talking about the universe existence. Ok somebody could create our DNA, but this is the point. Somebody. In this somebody couldnt be created by chance.
ckton 2 years ago 2
@Andrewlohbihler if DNA were created somewhere else, that just moves the problem from one planet to another. The arise of unbelievably complex organic systems from a pool of muck by chance, is utter foolishness
pingviller 10 months ago 7
The problem I have with this so called "proof of God" is that God can mean tons and tons of various things. What you call God is what someone else calls something else. Seriously, God is not a well defined thing...there's no coherent definition that's agreed upon by believers, so it's nearly impossible to even talk about it.
VitalSigns1 2 years ago 5
Call it whatever you want. However, any higher power that brought the world into fruition, would be translated as G-d in our language.
ephy3 2 years ago 5
@ephy3
what does G-d mean?? many people say it but i'm confused.
lion95805 1 year ago
@VitalSigns1 From a philosophical perspective god is seen as a intelligible mind, something that can think. A creator.
balli2195 1 year ago
So your saying is we have a connection whether you like it or not? check out the psychology behind atheism and learn something about yourself...it sounds like daddy issues to me...whatever IT is, IT has a sense of humour... IT let me hit u with a heavenly burn...burn. sorry im just bord
Link234888 2 years ago
Why do you need evidence to believe in god? Its called faith! You cant see love right? Yet its real because you feel it. I know god is real cause I feel it in my heart and believe it in my heart. Why should god reveal himself to you if you mock him and say he dont exist? Just cause YOU want him too? He reveals himself to those who believe in him, both physically and spiritually. God is real whether anyone wants to admit it or not. when you see him one day what will be your excuse? God bless?
jinjj2009 2 years ago 13
I couldn't have said it better myself.
Essincy 2 years ago 8
i agree
joshe23238 2 years ago 8
@jinjj2009
Amen. :)
sophiethenerd 1 year ago
Yes, Life is tuned to the universe, but the argument presented is that the mere existence of Life is improbable.
Do you expect life to exist in the center of the Sun? No matter how fine-tuned life is to its environment, if the environment is too harsh than life cannot exist.
Using your analogy, it would be more like the probability the arrow came into existence in the first place.
kuni112233 2 years ago
Believer or not, I find it brilliant that we are in a position to have these conversations. How wonderful it truly is!
robotwookie 2 years ago 122
@robotwookie your so right
ziccy7 1 year ago
@robotwookie I agree. Freedom of speech FTW!
f00tstep 10 months ago
@robotwookie me too :)
brazilian777able 8 months ago
Uhh, actually the universe is fine tuned for life, even Stephen Hawking agrees with that.
maxbigwood 2 years ago
frostzor-
Aristotle actually popularized the idea of the earth being round in the 3rd century BC. Eratosthenes caculated the circumference of the earth, with relitive accuracy, in the 2nd century BC. The scholars during Colombus' day scoffed at him because he believed the earth was smaller than it actually was, and what they knew it was. The reason we believe they thought the earth was flat is from a book written by Washington Irving.
jeanmarcwade 2 years ago
1437 BCE, book of JOb, earth round in old Hebrew.
MagusGod 2 years ago 5
Genius. Thank you for this video.
steele4real 2 years ago 2
This guy is a genius!
sgprailfan 2 years ago 2
the first one is easy why is there existence? because there is, if there was not we would not be asking this question now would we. The how it all happened is a much more interesting question and as we learn more about the how we might get some clues on the why.
fireflygirl246 2 years ago
No matter how much we intellectualize, it remains true that some things are unknowable. We will never know the answer to the primordial existence question. Thus, we have faith.
orlandofriend 2 years ago 3
There is, if you look deep into history, and look deep into the bible, you'd find your proof.
MagusGod 2 years ago
You also find no proof. To let you know, you need evidence in order to prove something.
sillylittletroy 2 years ago
as an agnostic, i find this guy really intelligent. ive been studying the points of view from atheists and this guy, so far what these man says is way superior than what dawkins or other atheist say, its more logical and more intelligent
Abreaken 2 years ago 5
Here, I'll help you make up your mind, answer the question, "Out of all that I know, is god possible?"
sillylittletroy 2 years ago
Are you willing to slide to a theist position via logic or will you require empirical evidence? For me, I need the proof!
99minerkc 2 years ago
O.K. now that you think you think you discovered the existence of a creator,please tell me who created the creator.
VanGoghsEar1890 2 years ago
That is a common question. The Bible says that God exists in eternity. That is that time itself is something He created. Where He is, there is no difference between past, present, and future. Therefore, from the standpoint of humans living in time, He simply always was.
HarmonyinJesus 2 years ago 4
........are you kidding me? everythin had to start with an ultimate creator, an uncreated-creator. THAT IS GOD!!!
getbacker15 2 years ago
VanGoshsEar1890: We live in a unviverse that has time and space. So we wonder what happened in the "past". We know that every effect has a "cause". The effect is the universe, so what was it's cause? If there's a creator, then he is not "in" time, he is not "in" space and so we can't wonder what happened to him in the "past" since there's no time outside this universe. God would not be an effect, so there'd be no "cause". Time is the unfolding of matter. God is not made of matter.
yistackness 2 years ago 5
The Creator is posited as existing beyond time or outside of time so your question doesn't make any sense because nothing can exist before the Creator.
bernardrichards 2 years ago
... sigh...
Your right... why did people downrate you?
keysle 2 years ago
the creator has always been...... our minds just cant comprehend infinity and eternity they r not made to
420gdog 2 years ago 4
good point
lsuk0dyou 2 years ago
i love his statement that we are all condensed light beams that just happened to come alive, or as carl sagan said, we evolved from star stuff, which is such a beautiful way to connect us to everyone and everything including time and space. but how on earth does that mean there is a creator? Dr. Schroeder said it himself, we just happened to come alive.
to say the universe is perfectly tuned for life is the same as a fish saying, thank god for water. there couldn't be any other alternative...
TheEarthAbides 2 years ago 8
Light beams... sounds familiar... book of Genesis familiar... "Let there be light!"
HarmonyinJesus 2 years ago
i am at 18:50 and this real smart guy is starting to lose me. he keeps asking how light beams can laugh, cry and be cognizant of consciousness etc. but if light beams were able to become planets and waterfalls, why not us? why refer to us as now as lightbeams, it's like referring to jet fuel as a dead dinosaur, or a an italian suite as a cotton ball.
TheEarthAbides 2 years ago 2
This is brilliant I find this very faith building thank you.
bagwi 2 years ago
I'm not meaning to offend; I'm just honestly curious.
How does scientific proof of God build faith? Wouldn't it eliminate the need for faith? Wouldn't it destroy faith?
theCamelCase 2 years ago 3
Who said blind faith is necessary? The book of Hebrews defines faith as anything but blind.
cagefite007 2 years ago
Good question. I guess it instantly and mutually destroys faith in and the non-belief in God. But the again, since we are imperfect beings with limited capacites, we will still have to have faith in God and we can only understand the physical world with science. Hence I mean to say that faith and science, and you can have faith in science, in terms that it can solve the answers to our various quesions, go hand-in-hand, and separating the two is little more than a divide-and-conquer scheme.
maugustyniak 2 years ago
your right it would destroy faith because we can just back up are claims with science now
jewsforjudaism101 2 years ago
@theCamelCase Faith is needed for any belief.
balli2195 1 year ago
how can science find god if god is beyond science, god that transcends the physical world and beyond?
gothicworld54 2 years ago
That is the right question for sure.
Science answers so much for us, but it is by its very definition, LIMITED to the natural world.
If we are honest with ourselves, we must admit that there exists things that do not conform to natural science. After all, science can and will never be able to explain how matter came into existence, much less purpose, meaning and morality.
1711Acts 2 years ago 3
we can find the fingerprint of God, not God, through science.
delbert0504 2 years ago
@gothicworld54 God created science so his mark should be left in his creations.
balli2195 1 year ago
absolutely amazing!!
if there's anyone out there who still says there is no creator after seeing this is mad!
diuryl 3 years ago 7
This man is brilliant.
pricelesspam 3 years ago 13
THIS GUY IS A GENIOUS.GOD BLESS HIM.
pricelesspam 3 years ago 18
wOW.
pricelesspam 3 years ago 15